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David Von Pein

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May 6, 2008, 12:55:31 PM5/6/08
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LINKS TO SOME SELDOM-HEARD AUDIO RECORDINGS MADE BY PRESIDENT JOHN F.
KENNEDY:

==========================================================

On November 4, 1963, less than three weeks before his own death, JFK
dictated a memoir entry, pertaining to the recent assassination of
Vietnam's President Diem. The voices of both of Kennedy's two young
children (John-John and Caroline) can also be heard during this
recording:

http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1104_jfk_vietnam_memoir.html


======================


JFK talks on the phone with the British Prime Minister during the
tense last days of the Cuban Missile Crisis (October 26, 1962):


http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1962_1026_macmillan

======================


One year and one day before he died, John Kennedy was involved in the
following spirited conversation with officials of NASA concerning the
task of landing a man safely on the moon. As with all of these
recordings, this is fascinating stuff here:


http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1962_1121_apollo

======================


3-part audio from early October 1963 with President Kennedy and high-
ranking members of his staff. The topic -- Withdrawing troops from
Vietnam:

http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1002_vietnam_am

http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1002_vietnam_pm/index.htm

http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1005_vietnam/index.htm

======================


Kennedy talks on the phone with his doctor (George Burkley), with Jack
asking Burkley to "send up a little extra medication". This is from
March of 1963:


http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_03_blue_pills


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Miscellaneous audio clips featuring John F. Kennedy:


http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/jfk_1_3/index.htm


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This one isn't a Kennedy call, but it's very interesting nonetheless
-- a March 12, 1964, conversation between JFK's successor (Lyndon
Johnson) and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. This short phone call
concerns a rather odd subject -- an FBI background check that Hoover
had just completed on Hollywood actress Janet Leigh (of "Psycho"
fame):

http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1964_0312_leigh

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MORE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDINGS AND "WHITE HOUSE TAPES":

http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu


http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/pages/clips.htm

======================


cdddraftsman

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May 12, 2008, 12:32:04 AM5/12/08
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On May 6, 9:55 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> LINKS TO SOME SELDOM-HEARD AUDIO RECORDINGS MADE BY PRESIDENT JOHN F.
> KENNEDY:
>
> ==========================================================
>
> On November 4, 1963, less than three weeks before his own death, JFK
> dictated a memoir entry, pertaining to the recent assassination of
> Vietnam's President Diem. The voices of both of Kennedy's two young
> children (John-John and Caroline) can also be heard during this
> recording:
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1104_jfk_vietnam_me...

>
> ======================
>
> JFK talks on the phone with the British Prime Minister during the
> tense last days of the Cuban Missile Crisis (October 26, 1962):
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1962_1026_macmillan
>
> ======================
>
> One year and one day before he died, John Kennedy was involved in the
> following spirited conversation with officials of NASA concerning the
> task of landing a man safely on the moon. As with all of these
> recordings, this is fascinating stuff here:
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1962_1121_apollo
>
> ======================
>
> 3-part audio from early October 1963 with President Kennedy and high-
> ranking members of his staff. The topic -- Withdrawing troops from
> Vietnam:
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1002_vietnam_am
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1002_vietnam_pm/ind...

>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_1005_vietnam/index.htm
>
> ======================
>
> Kennedy talks on the phone with his doctor (George Burkley), with Jack
> asking Burkley to "send up a little extra medication". This is from
> March of 1963:
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1963_03_blue_pills
>
> ======================
>
> Miscellaneous audio clips featuring John F. Kennedy:
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/jfk_1_3/index.htm
>
> ======================
>
> This one isn't a Kennedy call, but it's very interesting nonetheless
> -- a March 12, 1964, conversation between JFK's successor (Lyndon
> Johnson) and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. This short phone call
> concerns a rather odd subject -- an FBI background check that Hoover
> had just completed on Hollywood actress Janet Leigh (of "Psycho"
> fame):
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/clips/1964_0312_leigh
>
> ======================
>
> MORE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDINGS AND "WHITE HOUSE TAPES":
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu
>
> http://tapes.millercenter.virginia.edu/pages/clips.htm
>
> ======================

Excellent DVP a five star on those audio recordings . Tremendous , I'd not
heard those before .

I'd like to ask you a question regarding your opinion on JFK's Plan on
withdrawing or not withdrawing from Vietnam .

Taking into account as you answer that JFK's platform when running for
office was criticism of the Eisenhower administrations failure to stop the
communist take over of China .

Do you see it as a reasonable option , to be had and laid upon the table ,
for JFK to withdraw all troops by 1965 ?

Just curious .

tl


David Von Pein

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May 12, 2008, 4:12:03 PM5/12/08
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>>> "I'd like to ask you a question regarding your opinion on JFK's Plan
on withdrawing or not withdrawing from Vietnam. Taking into account as you
answer that JFK's platform when running for office was criticism of the
Eisenhower administration's failure to stop the communist take over of
China. Do you see it as a reasonable option, to be had and laid upon the
table, for JFK to withdraw all troops by 1965?" <<<


It was certainly an "option" I suppose, yes. But as of Kennedy's death in
November '63, I don't think JFK had any intention of withdrawing "all"
U.S. personnel (troops) from Vietnam by 1965.

JFK's CBS-TV interview in early September 1963 gives a good general
overview of Kennedy's opinions and thoughts regarding the Vietnam
situation (as it existed as of that '63 date, of course)....and per that
interview with Walter Cronkite, in my opinion it's just plain silly to
assert (as some people seem to want to do) that Kennedy was bent on
withdrawing all forces (or "advisers" as JFK called them) from Vietnam.

I think the following direct quote from John F. Kennedy sums up his
administration's late-1963 posture regarding Vietnam as succinctly and
accurately as possible. Do some theorists think Kennedy is lying his ass
off here? Apparently many people think he's doing just that:

"I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw [from Vietnam].
That would be a great mistake...a great mistake." -- President Kennedy;
Via CBS Interview; September 1963

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LRapJzcSjsc

Anthony Marsh

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May 12, 2008, 4:16:10 PM5/12/08
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I think you are overstating this. And most people had blamed Truman, not
Eisenhower. China was already lost by the time Eisenhower was sworn in.
What you may be trying to remember is the famous bomber gap charge that
Kennedy tried to use against the Republicans. Kennedy was not running
against Eisenhower. He was running against Nixon, who was Eisenhower's
Vice-President.

Anthony Marsh

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May 12, 2008, 9:32:00 PM5/12/08
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Interesting how all the WC defenders are hawks and love to defame the
memory of President Kennedy by calling him the worst thing they can
think of, a hawk like them.

David Von Pein

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May 12, 2008, 11:39:03 PM5/12/08
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>>> "Interesting how all the WC defenders are hawks and love to defame the
memory of President Kennedy by calling him the worst thing they can think
of, a hawk like them." <<<

A very odd statement (even for Tony M.). And an untrue statement too.

I merely was quoting President Kennedy's exact words from September 1963.

Somehow, per Tony, this equals a desire on my part "to defame the memory
of President Kennedy".

A curious leap of logic indeed.

Michael O'Dell

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May 13, 2008, 2:14:18 AM5/13/08
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"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8umdnadjO4VDLrXV...@comcast.com...

Even a fifth grader would see how this statement makes no sense. If the
"WC defenders" are hawks then them calling someone else a hawk is not
defamation. They don't think "hawk" is the worst thing. If they did,
they wouldn't be hawks. To a hawk, hawk is a good thing.

Are you really Tony Marsh, or are you a parody somebody is putting on to
make Tony look bad?

That would explain a lot. I does seem that the person posting as "Anthony
Marsh" is going to a lot of effort to make Tony appear too silly to listen
to. Perhaps it is a plot.

Michael

cdddraftsman

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May 13, 2008, 2:19:05 AM5/13/08
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On May 12, 6:32 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting how all the WC defenders are hawks and love to defame the
> memory of President Kennedy by calling him the worst thing they can
> think of, a hawk like them.
>
>

IMO JFK was very hawkish on Vietnam , I know as a fact his favorite
missile was the HAWK * :

http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc291/cdddraftsman/?action=view&current=JFKInspectingHawkMissileBattery-1.jpg&t=1210647978945
but I'm not too sure about what his favorite bird was ?
Hmmmm.......? Will have to think about that one for
awhile ......started with
a H and ended with a k as I remember ..........musing .......

:-)

tl

* Homing All the Way Killer


billc...@live.com

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May 13, 2008, 2:21:18 AM5/13/08
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Yes, Anthony has world class ability to make these giant leaps. One
of the best.

Bill Clarke

billc...@live.com

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May 13, 2008, 2:25:52 AM5/13/08
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It was the “missile gap” that JFK ran with (not tried) and it served
him well. The American people believed it. Without it perhaps the
very close election would have gone to Nixon.

Ike knew that this gap didn’t exist from intelligence gained by the
U-2 flights. However, to disclose this fact would have revealed the
existence of the U-2. Obviously Ike didn’t reveal this knowledge to
Nixon because Nixon would probably have sacrificed national security
to get elected.

Bill Clarke

Anthony Marsh

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May 13, 2008, 10:40:03 AM5/13/08
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As I said before and you illustrate for all, the WC defenders are
right-wingers who seek to defame the memory of President Kennedy by
calling him a hawk.

Anthony Marsh

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May 13, 2008, 10:40:47 AM5/13/08
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Even a college graduate would understand the comment. It is called self
loathing. Like Larry Craig running on family values and denouncing
homosexuals.

> Are you really Tony Marsh, or are you a parody somebody is putting on to
> make Tony look bad?
>

You look bad for not understanding my message.

Anthony Marsh

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May 13, 2008, 10:41:05 AM5/13/08
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David Von Pein wrote:
>>>> "Interesting how all the WC defenders are hawks and love to defame the
> memory of President Kennedy by calling him the worst thing they can think
> of, a hawk like them." <<<
>
> A very odd statement (even for Tony M.). And an untrue statement too.
>
> I merely was quoting President Kennedy's exact words from September 1963.
>

Funny how you take things out of context and don't quote when JFK said
to CBS that in the final analysis it was the South Vietnamese people's
war to win or loose, or his last press conference when he said the goal
was to bring Americans home.

> Somehow, per Tony, this equals a desire on my part "to defame the memory
> of President Kennedy".
>

You are a perfect example of what I was talking about.

Michael O'Dell

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May 13, 2008, 6:28:55 PM5/13/08
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"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:cpSdnR6cl5NIArTV...@comcast.com...

Nope. You are assuming all "hawks" must be self-loathing. There is no
reason for that, and it's obviously absurd. To most people anyway.

>
>> Are you really Tony Marsh, or are you a parody somebody is putting on to
>> make Tony look bad?
>>
>
> You look bad for not understanding my message.

Oh, I understand it. But it's still silly.

Michael O'Dell

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May 13, 2008, 6:29:23 PM5/13/08
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"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:jpedndTKYOZvALTV...@comcast.com...

More silliness.

Both Posner and Bugliosi are left-wingers. To name two.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your cliches Tony.

Michael

Anthony Marsh

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May 14, 2008, 12:05:41 PM5/14/08
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Well, I stand corrected. I was not aware of the fact that they are
posting here. What aliases are they using?
BTW, somewhere I have the old CompuServe messages and Posner did in fact
post there and I told him that he was a sloppy researcher.

> Michael

Anthony Marsh

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May 14, 2008, 12:06:00 PM5/14/08
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Not all hawks call Kennedy a hawk. Most call him a Commie.

Michael O'Dell

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May 14, 2008, 10:47:13 PM5/14/08
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"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Where was any reference to people that posted here? You said, "the WC
defenders".

Typical Marsh ploy, when shown to be wrong pretend something else was
being said. You know, every single person reading the post sees what you
did. It doesn't fool anyone. It just perpetuates your reputation.

Michael

Anthony Marsh

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May 15, 2008, 10:43:46 AM5/15/08
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YOU made the reference to posters here, by bringing up Posner and Bugliosi.

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