History of mafia in Dallas
Peter Fokes
history of the Mafia in Dallas:
http://students.uta.edu/rx/rxd6738/Say%20Hello%20to%20the%20Dallas%20Mafia.html
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Piranio Famiglia is a look at an obscure, yet important Mafia Family
in the United States. This family was integral in the Italian drug
trade throughout the other two important Mafiosi Families in the the
southern U.S.: The Marcello Family of New Orleans, Louisiana and the
Trafficante Family of Florida.
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Peter Fokes
Greg Jaynes
> Looks like a fellow in Dallas has put some effort into writing a
> history of the Mafia in Dallas:
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>
> <quote on>
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> Piranio Famiglia is a look at an obscure, yet important Mafia Family
> in the United States. This family was integral in the Italian drug
> trade throughout the other two important Mafiosi Families in the the
> southern U.S.: The Marcello Family of New Orleans, Louisiana and the
> Trafficante Family of Florida.
>
> <quote off>
>
> Peter Fokes
Thanks Peter, that's interesting stuff.
I wonder how the guy knows all this stuff.
His primary sources page is blank but he
certainly writes it with an air of knowing what
he is talking about.
I'm glad you found it as it corroborates what I have
been going back and forth with Martin over in the
Marcello thread, to wit;
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"In the grand scheme of things in the criminal
underworld, the Piranio Family was relatively
small time. It was a small, traditional Family
that ran numbers, drugs, extortion and some
illegal construction scams; not a Family like
the Gambino's from New York or even the
Buffalino Family from Philadelphia, who were
into major unionized labor racketeering,
stock frauds, and the unlawful import and
exporting of 'hot' merchandise. The Piranio
Family's biggest business was illegal gambling
and drug trafficking on a relatively small scale."
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I thought this part was interesting:
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"Binion and Vallone financed and supported the
now famous Texas Rounders. This group carried
with it such poker heavy hitters as Doyle Brunson,
Amarillo Slim, Jimmy 'The Greek' Snyder, Puggy
Pearson, and Jack Strauss. These guys invented
the game that is now played by over a million people
on their PC's every single day...No Limit Texas Hold'em.
The Mafia in Dallas is single handedly responsible for
the explosion that has become poker in the new
millennium."
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Beverly Oliver said her husband McGann and associates
called themselves "rounders". I would like to see the
sources that connect Binion to this Mafia family
Because the Chicago Mafiosos had considered killing
Binion and Nobles to take over their gambling operations
in Dallas. If Binion was connected to this family wouldn't
that be breaking their own rules?
As interesting as the project is in it's detail, it did not
mention McGann or R.D. Matthews or the Dixie Mafia.
I'm skeptical of some of the outright conclusions.
But I would very much like see the primary sources
if they ever become available. Somehow with these
things, the last piece that ties the knot always seems
to be unavailable. The writer doesn't seem to be a
kook or anything but often people make more of a
source than what it really is.
Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes
James K. Olmstead
jko
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It's possible that Ruby's family was involved in the construction scams in
Youngstown, Ohio as well as supplying punchboard/bingo supplies and
prizes. His brother in law ran a construction "home improvement' operation
in Youngstown and his brother was associated with the union.
> I thought this part was interesting:
>
> Quote on:
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> "Binion and Vallone financed and supported the
> now famous Texas Rounders. This group carried
> with it such poker heavy hitters as Doyle Brunson,
> Amarillo Slim, Jimmy 'The Greek' Snyder, Puggy
> Pearson, and Jack Strauss. These guys invented
> the game that is now played by over a million people
> on their PC's every single day...No Limit Texas Hold'em.
> The Mafia in Dallas is single handedly responsible for
> the explosion that has become poker in the new
> millennium."
>
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Both Jack Ruby and his sister were at one time"Dealers" running card games
wherever possible. Several major card games were run in Ohio during the
50's. Ohio has a very libral view of "poker" and few games were ever
raided....unless a sore loser bitched. Most gambling in Ohio was
controled by the Detroit Purple Gang. Mike Farrah and his brother from
New Orleans ran the Jungle Inn in Ohio.......they also were linked to the
effort to kill Binion....who hid out at a ranch owned by member of Ohio's
Mayfield Rd. Mob. in Arizona. Mike Farrah was gunned down in 1961. He ran
his operation next to the Police Dept in Warren (they shared parking lot).
Ruby's sister, brother in law and his brother lived in Youngstown, while
another lived in Detroit. Frank Cammarta of the DPG ran the Dry Cleaning
rackets out of Warren, Ohio, Detroit and St. Louis. Ruby's brother ran a
dry cleaning operation in Detroit and Cleveland, Ohio. This area of Ohio
was a hidaway in the open for major criminals on the lamb....Karpas,
Dillinger, Floyd, hiding from all areas of the US.
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> Beverly Oliver said her husband McGann and associates
> called themselves "rounders". I would like to see the
> sources that connect Binion to this Mafia family
> Because the Chicago Mafiosos had considered killing
> Binion and Nobles to take over their gambling operations
> in Dallas. If Binion was connected to this family wouldn't
> that be breaking their own rules?
No....it depends on who exactly was after Binion. Binion's family clearly
supports that their father was "mob associated".......however it's also
believe he ran a good game. I would have to check my files on Binion....I
just read the "history" and would have to refresh my Dallas material.
However one has to remember just about every social group/hotel and bar in
Dallas had card games going on
Anthony Marsh
> Looks like a fellow in Dallas has put some effort into writing a
> history of the Mafia in Dallas:
>
> http://students.uta.edu/rx/rxd6738/Say%20Hello%20to%20the%20Dallas%20Mafia.html
>
Joe Civello was a man who liked to know people; he liked to have
friends, and he liked to have contacts and business partners. In the
grand scheme of things in the criminal underworld, the Piranio Family
was relatively small time. It was a small, traditional Family that ran
numbers, drugs, extortion and some illegal construction scams; not a
Family like the Gambino’s from New York or even the Buffalino Family
from Philadelphia, who were into major unionized labor racketeering,
stock frauds, and the unlawful import and exporting of ‘hot’
merchandise. The Piranio Family’s biggest business was illegal gambling
and drug trafficking on a relatively small scale (when compared to the
South American Cartels). This all changed when Civello started running
the show.
Peter Fokes
<jolm...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the link Pete
>
>jko
Some of the points noted in the article are also found in
["Organized Crime: 25 Years After Valachi," Hearings Before the
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on
Governmental Affairs, United States Senate, 100th Congress, Second
Session, US Government Printing Office, Washington: 1988]
As per:
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February 20, 1930: Carlo T. Piranio, leader of the old Dallas, Texas,
Family died of natural causes. He was succeeded by his brother, Joseph
T. Piranio.
October 27, 1956: Joseph T. Piranio, boss of the Dallas, Texas,
Family, shot himself to death after a brief illness. He was succeeded
by Joseph Civello.
January 17, 1970: Joseph Francis Civello, boss of the Dallas, Texas,
Family, died of natural causes. This Family is no longer active.
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OF course, the "history" suggests activity continued for a period of
time.
PF
doug.w...@gmail.com
> history of the Mafia in Dallas:
>
>
> <quote on>
>
> Piranio Famiglia is a look at an obscure, yet important Mafia Family
> in the United States. This family was integral in the Italian drug
> trade throughout the other two important Mafiosi Families in the the
> southern U.S.: The Marcello Family of New Orleans, Louisiana and the
> Trafficante Family of Florida.
>
> <quote off>
>
> Peter Fokes
This is OT, but what the heck. Interesting to read the mention of
Amarillo Slim Preston as an original member of the "rounders".
Preston, unfortunately,has been robbed by gun point twice in the past
two years (2006 & 2007) in his hometown of Amarillo, Texas. The first
time, a car forced Preston's car to the side of the road & a gunman
ran to Preston demanding money. Preston slammed his auto in reverse &
fled the scene. The gunman fired three shots into Preston's car but
came out empty handed. The last encounter, earlier this year, two
gunmen were waiting inside Preston's apartment for his return. Upon
his return, he was duct taped to a chair, had a gun places into his
mouth, & forced to reveal where he kept his cash. Interesting life
for a guy in his 80'(?)s. Here's some interesting facts regarding
Amarillo Slim Preston. Played poker with Presidents LBJ & RMN.
Slim's Greatest Bets
1. Playing Minnesota Fats in one-pocket with a broom.
2. Taking 211/2 points on the Jets and winning a big bet on Broadway
Joe in Super Bowl III.
3. Hitting a golf ball a mile on a frozen lake--inspired by Titanic
Thompson.
4. Wagering that a cat could pick up a Coke bottle.
5. Betting on which sugar cube a fly would land on in an Arkansas
jail.
6. Outrunning a horse for a hundred yards (no one ever said nothing
about the race being a straight-away).
7. Holding a horse's tail for a quarter of a mile in San Angelo,
Texas.
8. Broad jumping farther than a superior athlete at Rogers Municipal
Golf Course.
9. Winning the World Series of Poker at Binion's Horseshoe in 1972.
10. Rafting down the River of No Return in winter in a wetsuit made by
Jacques Cousteau-a bet that earned me $31,000 from Jimmy "the Greek"
Snyder.
11. Beating Evel Knievel in golf with a carpenter's hammer and betting
that two out of thirty cab drivers in Dallas would have the same
birthday.
12. Shooting free throws with a football against a Hall-of-Fame
basketball coach.
13. Beating Bobby Riggs playing Ping-Pong with a skillet.
14. Beating a world champion Ping-Pong player with a Coca-Cola bottle.
Canuck
> Looks like a fellow in Dallas has put some effort into writing a
> history of the Mafia in Dallas:
>
>
> <quote on>
>
> Piranio Famiglia is a look at an obscure, yet important Mafia Family
> in the United States. This family was integral in the Italian drug
> trade throughout the other two important Mafiosi Families in the the
> southern U.S.: The Marcello Family of New Orleans, Louisiana and the
> Trafficante Family of Florida.
>
> <quote off>
>
> Peter Fokes
In his introduction, the author used the word "it's" which should be
"its"; also "in depth" should be one word: "in-depth".
- Peter R. Whitmey
Greg Jaynes
>
> In his introduction, the author used the word "it's" which should be
> "its"; also "in depth" should be one word: "in-depth".
> - Peter R. Whitmey-
Hey, that's important! Ha!
I can't wait til day after tomorrow.
I'm gonna go to Dallas and try to get some pictures of
some gangsters driving straight eight Packards around
corners on two wheels while one of 'em hangs out the
window firing a Tommy gun at the pursuing villains.
Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes
Peter Fokes
You are both silly.
Watch out! Someone gonna dump a pot of fresh pasta on both your heads,
and go bang bang!
hehe
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>Respectfully,
>Greg Jaynes
CIAO
PF
Canuck
I didn't indicate it was important, but I don't think it hurts to
point out obvious grammatical errors. - prw