OT - Does Billary Know What She's Talking About??

[John Fiorentino]

Hillary Clinton said.............

"The President Did Close Guantanamo"

April 22, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJky1akj-Vo

John F.

[Bill Clarke]

In article <518e...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, John Fiorentino says...

That is about like Shelia Jackson Lee saying a while back that "now North
Vietnam and South Vietnam get along well now".

And these folks are running the country. God help us.

Bill Clarke

[mainframetech]

On May 11, 2:24 pm, "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net>
wrote:

Do you suppose that was the time that Obama tried to close Gitmo
and shortly after the republicans stopped him cold with fear speeches
of how dangerous it would be to have terrorists in our supermax
prisons?

I know Obama has wanted to close Gitmo, but has the opposition
trying to keep it open.

Chris

[John Fiorentino]

It's either "closed" or it isn't.

and

IT ISN'T


John F.

"mainframetech" <mainfr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[Sandy McCroskey]

Yes, it's pretty cut and dried.

[Anthony Marsh]

Sheila Jackson is running the country? Who the Hell is Sheila Jackson?

> Bill Clarke
>
>

[Bill Clarke]

In article <518f...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...

I don't know who Sheila Jackson is but Sheila Jackson LEE is a fool
congresswoman from Houston.

Bill Clarke

[John Blubaugh]

Which could be any number or congresspeople from Texas. I live their now,
unfortunately. If I live long enough, I will enjoy watching it become a
big blue state as the Hispanics take over....

[Bill Clarke]

In article <d28263f2-7003-4027...@googlegroups.com>, John
Blubaugh says...

>
>Which could be any number or congresspeople from Texas.

Or from any other state in the union. What state was it that you
boycotted a good while back? I thought that was pretty funny.

>I live their now, unfortunately.

Unfortunately for us. Don't let the door knob hit you on your way out of
Texas but please make it fast.

>If I live long enough, I will enjoy watching it become a
>big blue state as the Hispanics take over....

When I was growing up Texas was a solid blue state. The Democrats pushed
Texas into the red zone. Blame the flaky far left.

There is a radical Mexican professor at the University of Texas that
states the same crap about the Hispanics taking over and how it scares the
"shit" out of us white folks. This puzzles me since one can look across
the river at a nation run by Hispanics and it doesn't seem to be doing all
that great. What the hell difference do they or you expect with a Texas
run by Hispanics?

You've heard of killing the goose that laid the golden egg? You've
probably never had a parasitology course but a wise parasite doesn't kill
it's host.

Bill Clarke

[John Blubaugh]

I have a group of stories about Texas. Sitting around listening to idiots
complain about Obama Care and then asking them if they have health
insurance. Of course they don't. Texas the state of deregulation but they
do blow up their cities with some regularity. I am going to laugh when you
have your first Hispanic governor sometime in the next ten years.....

Most Texans are fine even if they are rednecks and bigots...

I don't want to have my address there but I have to work three months per
year in Texas, more than anywhere else by far..... Oh, well...

JB

[John McAdams]

On 18 May 2013 21:34:44 -0400, John Blubaugh <jblu...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

You are aware, perhaps, that net migration is *into* Texas, and *out
of* the liberal states you like so well, such California.

It's a matter of creating wealth, rather than trying to redistribute
it.

As for calling Texans "rednecks and bigots," I'm sure you know that
they would consider you a liberal bigot.

.John
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[Anthony Marsh]

Oh, I get it. That's how you can prevent people from calling someone a
racist. You say that the person saying the word racist must be the
racist. How clever. Did you think up this trick all by yourself?

> .John
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[Bill Clarke]

In article <beae9ff2-c1e0-495d...@googlegroups.com>, John
Blubaugh says...

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>On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:24:24 PM UTC-4, John Fiorentino wrote:
>> Hillary Clinton said.............

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>> John F.
>
>I have a group of stories about Texas. Sitting around listening to idiots
>complain about Obama Care and then asking them if they have health
>insurance. Of course they don't. Texas the state of deregulation but they
>do blow up their cities with some regularity. I am going to laugh when you
>have your first Hispanic governor sometime in the next ten years.....

My god I hope to hell this first Hispanic governor doesn't turn out to be
like America's first semi-black president.

Bill Clarke

[John Blubaugh]

You can only pray that he will be anywhere close to Obama. I am proud of
him and how he handles everything. Much better than that Texas redneck
idiot who handed him all of these problems... And your current governor is
even worse than him... He looked great running for President and having no
knowledge about anything other than he didn't like liberals....

JB

[Bill Clarke]

In article <3d5ff3d5-2641-4db2...@googlegroups.com>, John

Blubaugh says...
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>On Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:41:15 PM UTC-4, Bill Clarke wrote:
>> In article <beae9ff2-c1e0-495d...@googlegroups.com>, John

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>> Bill Clarke
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>You can only pray that he will be anywhere close to Obama. I am proud of
>him and how he handles everything. Much better than that Texas redneck
>idiot who handed him all of these problems... And your current governor is
>even worse than him... He looked great running for President and having no
>knowledge about anything other than he didn't like liberals....
>
>JB
>

Oh you can bet I'm praying. Obama and his anti-American wife, Hillary and
now the scum John Kerry. I'm praying like hell.

Bill Clarke

[Anthony Marsh]

Have you ever thought of cloning Adolf Hitler? Ever see the movie The
Boys from Brazil?

[John Blubaugh]

On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:24:24 PM UTC-4, John Fiorentino wrote:

Michelle is anti-American? What does it take to be an American in your
few. You should be scared. Three more full years of Obama, then eight of
Hillary and then Elizabeth Warren steps up. The Republicans foolishness
will cost them seats in 2014 and 2016. Look on the bright side, perhaps
Cruz will run ;-)

JB

[Bill Clarke]

In article <519a345e$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...

Boys from Brazil? That some sort of homosexual pron you watch?

In retrospect Marsh, what needed to be done was to clone the wise men that
wrote and believed in our constitution and bill of rights. They are
sorely needed today.

Bill Clarke

[John Fiorentino]

Don't pay any attention to Anthony Bill.

Prayer is usually a good thing.

Of course agnostics, self-absorbed secular nit-wits and atheists miss the
benefits.

John F.




"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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[John Fiorentino]

I doubt very seriously whether the Republic can stand very many more years
of the incompetence generated by Obama and his cohorts.

Benghazi scandal
AP scandal
IRS scandal

Boston bombings, with the FBI asleep at the switch.

Billary "What at this point does it matter?" Clintoon

What *did* happen in West, Texas?

Anyone here enjoying this?


John F.


"John Blubaugh" <jblu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[John Fiorentino]

CORRECTION:


The actual quote from Billary was..........."What difference at this point
does it make?"

Sounds like stuff we heard after the financial meltdown...........Those
with the Bully pulpit (same ones who got us in the financial mess to begin
with) saying things like "We shouldn't look backwards" "We need to look to
the future" "Let's make sure it never happens again."

Hey, we *still* need those crooks to run the banks. Who's going to do it,
if not them??

Yeah, crapola.

John F.


"John Fiorentino" <jefior...@optimum.net> wrote in message news:...

[John Blubaugh]

On Monday, May 20, 2013 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, John Fiorentino wrote:
> I doubt very seriously whether the Republic can stand very many more years
>
> of the incompetence generated by Obama and his cohorts.
>
>
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> Benghazi scandal
>
> AP scandal
>
> IRS scandal
>
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> Boston bombings, with the FBI asleep at the switch.
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> Billary "What at this point does it matter?" Clintoon
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> What *did* happen in West, Texas?
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> Anyone here enjoying this?
>

Scandals made up by the republicans and guess what happened. Obama's
approval rating went up because of how he handled it all..... More damage
to the GOP for 2014.

JB

[Bill Clarke]

In article <519a6f54$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, John Fiorentino says...

>
>CORRECTION:
>
>
>The actual quote from Billary was..........."What difference at this point
>does it make?"
>
>Sounds like stuff we heard after the financial meltdown...........Those
>with the Bully pulpit (same ones who got us in the financial mess to begin
>with) saying things like "We shouldn't look backwards" "We need to look to
>the future" "Let's make sure it never happens again."
>
>Hey, we *still* need those crooks to run the banks. Who's going to do it,
>if not them??
>
>Yeah, crapola.
>
>John F.

And god help us but over half the voters buy this crap! We have become a
nation of fools it seems.

Bill Clarke

[Bill Clarke]

In article <f6fbe496-97ac-4467...@googlegroups.com>, John
Blubaugh says...

>
>On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:24:24 PM UTC-4, John Fiorentino wrote:
>> Hillary Clinton said.............

>>=20
>>=20
>>=20

>> "The President Did Close Guantanamo"

>>=20
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>>=20
>> April 22, 2009
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>>=20
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjJky1akj-Vo
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>> John F.
>
>Michelle is anti-American? What does it take to be an American in your
>few.

Someone that be proud of their country without the country having to elect her
husband president of the United States. It isn't America's fault she had to
give up her law license but America gave her the chance to be a lawyer. That
used to mean something.

>You should be scared. Three more full years of Obama, then eight of
>Hillary and then Elizabeth Warren steps up.

They keep letting wetbacks vote and you might be right.

>The Republicans foolishness will cost them seats in 2014 and 2016.

I don't doubt it.

>Look on the bright side, perhaps Cruz will run ;-)

Cruz represents everything I very much dislike about the right wing. He beat a
very good man for the Senate seat, unfortunately.

Obama, Hillary and Kerry and others represent everything I very much dislike
about the left wing.

I think the extremest are running both parties and it has been bad news for the
country.

Bill Clarke

[Anthony Marsh]

More rightwing paranoia. Like Flouride in the water.

[Sandy McCroskey]

It's pretty superficial politics, John B. to see everything as Democrat
versus Republican.


Here's John Nichols on TheNation.com right now.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/174450/our-liberty-cannot-be-guarded-freedom-press

<quote on>
A genuine left-right coalition has developed over the past several days
in response to the revelation that the Department of Justice seized
Associated Press telephone records in its recent investigation of a CIA
leak. And that coalition is likely to strengthen in light of the news
that the DOJ investigated the reporting activities of Fox News�s chief
Washington correspondent as a potential crime��solicitation� of leaks.
The latter development, in many senses more troubling than the former,
calls into question whether basic protections for both reporters and
whistleblowers are crumbling after more than a decade of Patriot Act
abuses, Bush and Obama administration excesses and the politicization of
debates about what were once accepted standards for protecting the
public�s right to know and the privacy rights that underpin it.

In moments so rigorously partisan as these, many members of Congress
will retreat to their corners, mounting attacks or making excuses. But
there are some serious legislators, libertarian-leaning Republicans and
progressive Democrats, who understand the urgency of the moment.

They get that the revelations about DOJ overreach reveal a threat not
just to freedom of the press but to the most necessary of press
functions: the work of revealing for citizens the details of what their
government is doing in their name but without their informed consent.
None of these members are foolish or casual in their approach; they
understand that it is necessary for the government to protect against
the leaking of information that could endanger people. But they also
understand that it is possible to provide that protection within a
constitutional context.

Perhaps most importantly, they get that the best way to protect the
First Amendment guarantee of a free press is to protect the Fourth
Amendment guarantee of privacy. Journalists do not need�and should not
seek�an array of special protections to do their jobs. But journalists
and their sources do need to know that information can be shared without
the threat of unwarranted�and self-serving�government surveillance of
necessary conversations.

It is with this in mind that four very different members of Congress
(Michigan Republican Justin Amash, South Carolina Republican Mick
Mulvaney, California Democrat Zoe Lofgren and Colorado Democrat Jared
Polis) have proposed a precise and appropriate response to the overreach
by the Department of Justice. While the White House and key members of
the Senate are backing a Shield Law, which protects journalists from
being required to reveal sources, the House members are going deeper�to
protect not just journalists but all citizens from �unreasonable
searches and seizures.� They seek a Telephone Records Protection Act,
which requires court approval when the government demands telephone
records from service providers.
</quote off>

[Anthony Marsh]

On 5/20/2013 5:50 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
> CORRECTION:
>
>
> The actual quote from Billary was..........."What difference at this point
> does it make?"
>
> Sounds like stuff we heard after the financial meltdown...........Those
> with the Bully pulpit (same ones who got us in the financial mess to begin
> with) saying things like "We shouldn't look backwards" "We need to look to
> the future" "Let's make sure it never happens again."
>

No, we didn't hear anything like that after the financial meltdown. You
are just making up crap to slander Hillary because she is a Liberal.

> Hey, we *still* need those crooks to run the banks. Who's going to do it,
> if not them??
>

Business as usual. And most of them are Republicans.

[John Fiorentino]

"Scandals made up by the republicans......"

REALLY??

You are certainly deluded.

..."and guess what happened. Obama's approval rating went up...."

Yeah, I wouldn't broadcast that *fact.*

Someone might label you non compos mentos.

John F.





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[Anthony Marsh]

On 5/20/2013 5:50 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:

> I doubt very seriously whether the Republic can stand very many more
> years of the incompetence generated by Obama and his cohorts.
>

Didn't you guys say that the country would collapse the moment Obama
took office? All the Billionaires would flee to Switzerland?

[John Fiorentino]

You didn't hear anything like that huh?

What planet do you live on?

John F.





"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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[Anthony Marsh]

He is talking about a small percentage.

And how many are Tea Party?
You can't get anything done without the Tea Party's acquiescence.

[Sandy McCroskey]

>> that the DOJ investigated the reporting activities of Fox News?s chief
>> Washington correspondent as a potential crime??solicitation? of leaks.

>> The latter development, in many senses more troubling than the former,
>> calls into question whether basic protections for both reporters and
>> whistleblowers are crumbling after more than a decade of Patriot Act
>> abuses, Bush and Obama administration excesses and the politicization of
>> debates about what were once accepted standards for protecting the

>> public?s right to know and the privacy rights that underpin it.

>>
>> In moments so rigorously partisan as these, many members of Congress
>> will retreat to their corners, mounting attacks or making excuses. But
>> there are some serious legislators, libertarian-leaning Republicans and
>> progressive Democrats, who understand the urgency of the moment.
>>
>
> He is talking about a small percentage.
>

That's right.
And if more of congresspeople, on either side of the aisle, don't
eventually join Amash, Mulvaney, Lofgren and Polis in their initiative
(see below)... well, you can guess the reasons for that, and they are
not pretty.

/sm

>> They get that the revelations about DOJ overreach reveal a threat not
>> just to freedom of the press but to the most necessary of press
>> functions: the work of revealing for citizens the details of what their
>> government is doing in their name but without their informed consent.
>> None of these members are foolish or casual in their approach; they
>> understand that it is necessary for the government to protect against
>> the leaking of information that could endanger people. But they also
>> understand that it is possible to provide that protection within a
>> constitutional context.
>>
>> Perhaps most importantly, they get that the best way to protect the
>> First Amendment guarantee of a free press is to protect the Fourth

>> Amendment guarantee of privacy. Journalists do not need?and should not
>> seek?an array of special protections to do their jobs. But journalists

>> and their sources do need to know that information can be shared without

>> the threat of unwarranted?and self-serving?government surveillance of

>> necessary conversations.
>>
>> It is with this in mind that four very different members of Congress
>> (Michigan Republican Justin Amash, South Carolina Republican Mick
>> Mulvaney, California Democrat Zoe Lofgren and Colorado Democrat Jared
>> Polis) have proposed a precise and appropriate response to the overreach
>> by the Department of Justice. While the White House and key members of
>> the Senate are backing a Shield Law, which protects journalists from

>> being required to reveal sources, the House members are going deeper?to
>> protect not just journalists but all citizens from ?unreasonable
>> searches and seizures.? They seek a Telephone Records Protection Act,

[mainframetech]

Yep. But they are the loudest. If the rest of use were louder,
things might change. The squeaky wheel gets the most oil.

> Bill Clarke

[mainframetech]

On May 21, 6:51 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/21/2013 1:26 AM, Bill Clarke wrote:
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> > In article <519a6f5...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, John Fiorentino says...

If you're happy with industrial waste in your water, you can have
mine. If you're wise enough to look into it before making a
decision, then here's a video of the union of EPA workers speaking
against Fluoride in drinking water because of the health dangers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRLz4a7lDVM

Chris

[John Fiorentino]

Who EXACTLY is "you guys" Anthony?

I don't need to make any disclosure, but I will, I am an Independent, NOT
a Republican.

John F.

"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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[Anthony Marsh]

Ok, so you confirm that you are paranoid about drinking water. But that
does not qualify you as a card carrying member of the John Birch Society.
In case you are interested, I never drink tap water. We get ours from
the MWRA and it is ALWAYS contaminated.
Some people see the glass of water and say it is half full while others
see the same glass of water and say it is half empty. I see the glass of
water and say "What the Hell is in that water?" I even say, "Is there
BPA in the glass?" Everything I buy is BPA free.
Is that paranoid enough to join your club?

[Anthony Marsh]

On 5/22/2013 4:04 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
> Who EXACTLY is "you guys" Anthony?
>

You guys is the Tea Party. You call yourselves Independent, but you always
vote for the most conservative Republican you can find.

[John Fiorentino]

My my, now Marsh is a Psychic. He can even tell which way I vote!

I thought that was illegal?

John F.





"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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[Anthony Marsh]

On 5/23/2013 7:04 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
> My my, now Marsh is a Psychic. He can even tell which way I vote!
>
> I thought that was illegal?
>
> John F.
>

No, it's not illegal and I don't have to be psychic to figure out who
you are. You broadcast it.

[John Fiorentino]

Marsh:

As usual you know very little about which you speak.

The way I vote is most certainly a privacy right.

What country do you live in?

"The first principle of republicanism is that the lex majoris partis is
the fundamental law of every society of individuals of equal rights; to
consider the will of the society enounced by the majority of a single vote
as sacred as if unanimous is the first of all lessons in importance, yet
the last which is thoroughly learnt." Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von
Humboldt, 1817

John F.






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