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John McAdams

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From the wholly unreliable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination

<Quote on>

Rosemary Willis - Clearly seen in the Zapruder film, at the start of
the assassination she was running with and facing the limousine on her
right, then circa Zapruder film frame 190 (hereafter "Z-190"), she
stops running and then slightly turns her head to face the southwest
corner of the depository. After the sitting upright president is
hidden by the "Stemmons Freeway" traffic sign in the Zapruder film,
she suddenly, very rapidly, beginning at Z-214 snaps her head
(http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSEwillisANNOUNCEMENT.html) 90
degrees westward within only 0.16 second to face Abraham Zapruder and
the grassy knoll. Precisely 0.55 second after her extremely quick
headsnap towards Zapruder and the grassy knoll, President Kennedy
emerges back into view --still sitting upright-- with his face and
arms already reacting to being shot. She also told the HSCA committee
that while she was still facing the grassy knoll picket fence she was
attracted to view the quick movements of a person quickly drop down
out of sight behind a wall.

<Quote off>

Does anybody have this HSCA interview?

And a question for Don: are you arguing that her "head snap" was the
result of hearing a shot from the Grassy Knoll? If so, how many shots
do you think were fired, and what was the sequence?

.John

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charles wallace

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Aug 8, 2004, 9:42:24 AM8/8/04
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John,
I'm glad you asked Don for the number of shots and sequence that he
thinks took place. I would like to compare them to what I think
happened. We know the sequence of the three shots you think happened
are not based on the testimony evidence from the majority of the
'sequence earwitnesses'. You claim 4.8 seconds between the last two
shots and the credible witnesses claim that the last two shots seemed to
have "no time element between them". What I think happened follows. I
cannot prove it but at least its based on evidence.

The JFK Conspiracy Killing Scenario
From: charles wallace (ccwa...@webtv.net)
Subject: The JFK Shooting
copyright June, 2004

This shooting scenario is based in part on the Zapruder camera frame
shot sequence theory of JFK assassination researcher Clark Wilkins. His
Zapruder 'Up Bounce Theory' says there is a single up bounce at frame
Z317 after the known shot at frames Z312-313. Additional single frame
bounces are at Z186, Z204, Z234 and Z328 and represent startle reactions
by Abraham Zapruder 4 to 5 frames after a shot. I have added an
additional Z frame for when the shots from the 6th floor of the Texas
School Book Depository building hit the JFK limousine to account for the
extra distance the sound has to travel to Zapruder's ears for those
particular shots. These 5 shots at Z180-181, Z199-200, Z228-229,
Z312-313, and Z322-323 are not the same as the acoustic (based on the
Dallas Police Department tape recording) theories of Anthony Marsh or
Don Thomas. The shots defined here in this scenario are close enough to
the acoustic data that the acoustic theories must be basically valid but
the acoustic timing of the shots are subject to slight Z frame
variations based on individual interpretation of various factors. The
Zapruder camera has been determined to operate at an average rate of
18.3 frames per second. The following scenario is my interpretation of
what all the facts mean.

I estimate the time is Zapruder frame number 133 and the Texas School
Book Depository shooter has the telescopic sight of Lee H. Oswald's
rifle filled with President John F. Kennedy's head. SNAP! Nothing has
happened. In a panic the shooter ejects the empty shell CE 543 from the
rifle and it gets dented in the process of trying to reload too quickly.
He mistakenly thought that the shell in the chamber when he got the
rifle was a ready to fire bullet. He cycled a live round from the clip
into the chamber as he goes from a standing crouch to the floor on his
knees and starts to aim. A tree now obscures his view but he can still
see JFK. His shot is the signal that his partner on the knoll is waiting
on. He quickly fires.

The fact that empty shell CE 543 was not fired during the assassination
proves Oswald was not part of the conspiracy to kill JFK otherwise he
would never have left an empty shell in the firing chamber. Dr. E.
Forrest Chapman, a forensic scientist found something unexpected about
two of the primers on the three found empty cartridges in the TSBD.
Chapman postulated that one shell (CE 543) was not fired that day
because it had been hit twice by a firing pin and the other shell was a
short charge or partial dud. Dr. Josiah Thompson postulated CE 543 was
not fired in Oswald's rifle in his book "Six Seconds In Dallas" because
the shell was missing a firing chamber mark that was unique to Oswald's
rifle.

1. 'pop'--The first shot is fired at approximately Zapruder frame number
180-181. This is the shot that Governor Connally hears. This is from
Oswald's rifle and fired from the most southeastern window on the 6th
floor of the Texas School Book Depository building with its muzzle
inside the window. It hits JFK in the back. It lodges just under the
skin, no more than a little finger's depth. The FBI report says it
entered at a 45 to 60 degree angle downward and stopped. The hole in
JFK's tailor fitting shirt is 5 3/4 inches down from the collar. Autopsy
doctors used metal probes to determine the end of the wound. JFK looks
with his peripheral vision towards the rear of the limousine at Z198 to
see if someone has stabbed him in the back. JFK had chronic back pains
and initially probably thought the pain was not from an external source.
Mrs. Kennedy has turned upon hearing noise and is staring intently at
JFK at Z198. I postulate a partial dud for this first shot. It is also
probable that this bullet went through a small branch of the tree
between the shooter and JFK. JFK assassination researcher Tom Purvis
has tested the effects of a 6.5mm bullet going through a 1 inch live oak
tree branch and he reports a much reduced velocity with minimum damage
to the bullet. So we have the first bullet leaving Oswald's rifle at a
reduced muzzle velocity and then the velocity being further reduced
after passing through a branch of the live oak tree before hitting JFK's
back at subsonic velocity. I postulate this bullet is CE 399. It will
be found later in Parkland Hospital on the little boy's (Ronald Fuller)
stretcher. It was pushed out of JFK's body during resuscitating efforts
apparently. It became trapped in the folds of the sheet when the sheet
was wadded up and carried in the direction of the dirty clothes area, I
theorize. The medical orderly (David Sanders) who helped clean up Trauma
Room No.1 most likely carried the bloody sheet and laid it down
temporarily on the little boy's stretcher when going into the men's
bathroom. Here CE 399 escaped the sheet and was discovered by Darrell
Tomlinson when he pushed the stretcher against the bathroom door.

2. 'pop'--The second shot is from the grassy knoll and strikes JFK in
the throat. This occurs at approximately Zapruder frame number 199-200.
This bullet's fragments were reported by autopsy x-ray technician Jerrol
Custer to have been seen on an x-ray that is now missing. I postulate a
small .22 caliber hollow nose short lead bullet and subsonic velocity.
The autopsy doctors did not know of this bullet entry during its
procedures. After the autopsy, the autopists learned from Parkland
Hospital's Dr. Perry about the small throat wound that was obscured by
the tracheostomy performed to assist the President's breathing. All
Parkland Hospital medical personnel that saw this wound thought that it
was one of entrance. I speculate that this projectile was fired from one
of the two barrels of a hunter's 'over and under' rifle. The shooter is
behind the small concrete wall on the grassy knoll to JFK's right front.
JFK unmistakably reacts to these first two shots at Z225.

3. 'POW'--The third shot strikes Governor Connally. It is from the Texas
School Book Depository shooter. It enters his back and exits his chest.
The bullet lodges itself in JBC's thigh at approximately Zapruder frame
number 228-229. It is lost at Parkland Hospital during the efforts to
save JBC's life. JBC thought the bullet was found by a nurse in Trauma
Room no.2. The shot occurs as JFK is in full reaction to his wounds.
Connally's wife, Nellie says she turned upon hearing noise and saw the
President with his hands up towards his throat, then her husband John
was hit. JBC reacts visibly at Zapruder frame number 237 to 238 with his
cheeks puffing out with air from his pierced collapsing lung. Oswald's
rifle scope was misaligned to shoot high and to the right.

4. 'POW'--The fourth shot hits JFK in the head at Zapruder frame number
312-313. It is from the grassy knoll. It deflects upon entry towards
JFK's right. Its fragments are mostly lost to the left rear of the
limousine causing reports of a bullet striking the street. There are
some estimated 40 small lead particles in a path through the brain left
from the frangible lead bullet which threw JFK back and to the left.
There are no reports of copper traces left in the brain or on skull
fragments and scalp tissue. All witnesses to the head wound said there
was a large opening in the rear of JFK's head. I speculate this shot is
from the second barrel of the 'over and under' rifle and is a .3xx
caliber lead hunting slug possibly with a hole drilled in its nose.

5. 'POW'--The final shot is from the TSBD at approximately Zapruder
frame number 322-323 and it strikes JBC in the wrist. The bullet breaks
up upon exit and parts of it come to rest in the front seat area of the
limousine after striking the chrome and front windshield. In my opinion
the Zapruder film shows a reflection flare from the windshield when the
fragment hit the chrome strip. One of the two fragments found have human
tissue bits and paper like fibers adhering to it. I speculate the fibers
are from JBC's missing hat. One of the found fragments was missing its
lead center and I speculate that it escaped the limousine and hit the
curb on Main Street causing a concrete chip or the fragment itself to
scratch the cheek of James Tague. Another fragment of this 6.5mm bullet
hits the manhole area on the south side of Elm and then goes into the
grass and is lost.

The sounds in Dealey Plaza have been 'pop...pop...POW......POW..POW' and
corresponding echoes. Most of the ear witnesses did not consciously hear
the initial two shots that sounded 'pop...pop'. They described the
first shot ('pop...pop...POW') as sounding like a firecracker, then a
pause followed by two more loud shots in quick succession.

In my opinion, the two shooters are shown in photographs. The TSBD
shooter is shown in Tom Dillard's close-up photo standing at the
adjacent closed window to the open Sniper's Nest window after the shots
surveying the chaos. A vertical shadow is on his face cast by the
framing thus verifying that the face is real. He was also seen standing
in the sixth floor window after the shots from across the street by
court clerk witness Lillian Mooneyham. He used Oswald's MC rifle. The
grassy knoll shooter is shown in Mary Moorman's photo and named "Badge
Man" but is really much closer in my opinion than behind the stockade
fence. He is positioned in "Black Dog Man's" location behind the low
concrete wall. BM is BDM. He used a hunter's 'over and under' rifle (a
22 caliber barrel and a .3xx type caliber barrel) in my opinion. Knoll
witness Gordon Arnold claims the knoll shooter had an unusual looking
rifle and that the man kicked him upon stopping to take away the film
from his camera. This man is photographed (Towner slide no. 3) running
away after this encounter with the rifle shown in his left hand. A
shadow cast from his arm onto the rifle verifies that the rifle is real.
I believe both shooters have as a souvenir an empty casing that each
thinks was the bullet that hit JFK in the head. Both shooters appear to
be wearing police uniforms. Oswald's housekeeper Earlene Roberts says
she saw two policemen drive up in front of the roominghouse and toot the
horn 30 minutes after the assassination while Oswald was in his room.


.............................................

Case Wide Open: A JFK Murder Investigation
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E.Suddin

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Aug 8, 2004, 6:36:32 PM8/8/04
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Ya had me there John. I thought you was talkin bout the Posner theory. How
little Miss Rosemary looked back and up to the sixth floor. When in
evidence of Zapruder, she did not. Just another example of the LNers
ability to excaudate the material. CTers do it tooooo. But what is the
real reason? Not the truth for sure.

As we can see from another discussion, Posner also claims the SS men on
the catcar turned to the rear and up to the sixth floor. But again the
real evidence is (the Altgens photo) where the agents look to the rear @
the 1st floor area. LNers again pornagate evidence to conclude the lone
nut theory. Myself, I wished it was Oswald alone. Unfortunately, there are
hundreds of examples of this. How the real evidence is conscribed to mean
the wrong interpolations.

John McAdams

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On 8 Aug 2004 09:42:24 -0400, ccwa...@webtv.net (charles wallace)
wrote:

>John,
>I'm glad you asked Don for the number of shots and sequence that he
>thinks took place. I would like to compare them to what I think
>happened. We know the sequence of the three shots you think happened
>are not based on the testimony evidence from the majority of the
>'sequence earwitnesses'. You claim 4.8 seconds between the last two
>shots and the credible witnesses claim that the last two shots seemed to
>have "no time element between them". What I think happened follows. I
>cannot prove it but at least its based on evidence.
>
>

Do you have the HSCA interview? Is it some bogus factoid?

.John
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John McAdams

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On 8 Aug 2004 18:36:32 -0400, "E.Suddin" <noemai...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Do you have the HSCA interview I asked about in my original post? Is
it yet another bogus factoid?

.John
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John McAdams

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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:11:19 GMT, john.m...@marquette.edu (John
McAdams) wrote:

>From the wholly unreliable:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination
>
><Quote on>
>
>Rosemary Willis - Clearly seen in the Zapruder film, at the start of
>the assassination she was running with and facing the limousine on her
>right, then circa Zapruder film frame 190 (hereafter "Z-190"), she
>stops running and then slightly turns her head to face the southwest
>corner of the depository. After the sitting upright president is
>hidden by the "Stemmons Freeway" traffic sign in the Zapruder film,
>she suddenly, very rapidly, beginning at Z-214 snaps her head
>(http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSEwillisANNOUNCEMENT.html) 90
>degrees westward within only 0.16 second to face Abraham Zapruder and
>the grassy knoll. Precisely 0.55 second after her extremely quick
>headsnap towards Zapruder and the grassy knoll, President Kennedy
>emerges back into view --still sitting upright-- with his face and
>arms already reacting to being shot. She also told the HSCA committee
>that while she was still facing the grassy knoll picket fence she was
>attracted to view the quick movements of a person quickly drop down
>out of sight behind a wall.
>
><Quote off>
>
>Does anybody have this HSCA interview?
>

I occurs to me that an HSCA interview with Rosemary Willis is
unlikely, since the photographic panel (at least) didn't know who she
was. They describe her, but they don't know her name.

.John
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Dave Reitzes

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>From: john.m...@marquette.edu (John McAdams)


I don't believe the HSCA spoke with Rosemary Willis. I'm also reasonably
certain she never said anything at all about seeing a person drop drop behind a
wall. I'm pretty sure she didn't say this in TMWKK.

I'd offer a guess that someone is conflating what Willis DID say in THWKK with
something Ralph Yarborough also said in that film: "I saw a man just jump about
ten feet like at the old time flying tackle in football and land against a
wall."

Yarborough, of course, was describing a bystander, not an assassin; and, as he
clarified later, he was not referring to anyone on the grassy knoll.

Wikipedia also briefly included a big chunk of Judyth's story as part of
Oswald's biography. Someone wisely chopped it out, but not before some Internet
copycats adopted the text for their own sites.

Dave


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DRoberdeau

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.John and Dave.... Please take a moment to actually read my discovery
announcement of attack close witness ROSEMARY WILLIS's SECOND reaction
seen in the ZAPRUDER film.... ROSEMARY's ultrafast 90 to 100 degree
headsnap (that she most-likely involuntarily was attracted to execute)
that occured in only 0.16 second at a 610 degrees-per-second headsnap rate
from Zf-214 to 217 --when ROSEMARY snaps her head from facing the
southWEST corner of the TSBD, to facing Mr. ZAPRUDER and the "grassy
knoll."

http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSEwillisANNOUNCEMENT.html

The specific reference for ROSEMARY WILLIS's 1978 statement to the HSCA is
provided within my discovery announcement.

ROSEMARY's headsnap is the fastest-rate displayed such headsnap seen in
ANY assassination film by ANY non-limo attack witness, and occurs only a
micro-second after a gunshot impulse that is present on the D.P.D. radio
dictabelt tape.

Don
CV-67, "Big John," USS John F. Kennedy Plank Walker
Sooner, or later, the Truth emerges Clearly
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T ogether
E veryone
A chieves
M ore

"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the
President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States
Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack while he was still
standing within Dealey Plaza, "Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition

"When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the
President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward
when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle
shot sounded. According to BREHM, the President seemed to stiffen and come to
a pause when another shot sounded and the President appeared to be badly hit in
the head. Brehm said when the President was hit by the second shot, he could
notice the President's hair fly up, and then roll over to his side, as Mrs.
KENNEDY was apparently pulling him in that direction.

BREHM said that a third shot followed and that all three shots were relatively
close together. BREHM stated that he was in military service and he has had
experience with bolt-action rifles, and he expressed his opinion that the three
shots were fired just about as quickly as an individual can maneuver a
bolt-action rifle, take aim, and fire three shots.

BREHM stated he definitely knew that the President had been shot and he
recalled having seen blood on the President's face. He also stated that it
seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came from one of two buildings back
at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets."

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States
Army Ranger veteran statement to the FBI, 24NOV63

"I saw a piece fly over in the area of the curb where I was standing. .... It
seemed to have come left, and back. .... Sir, whatever it was that I saw did
fall, both, in that direction, and, over into the curb there."

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States
Army Ranger veteran statements during the 1966 assassination documentary film,
"Rush to Judgment"

"After the car passed the building coming toward us, I heard a . . . surprising
noise, and [the President] reached with both hands up to the side of his throat
and kind of stiffened out . . . And when he got down in the area just past me,
the second shot hit which damaged, considerably damaged, the top of his head. .
. . That car took off in an evasive motion . . . and was just beyond me when a
third shot went off. The third shot really frightened me! It had a completely
different sound to it because it had really passed me as anybody knows who has
been in down under targets in the Army or been shot at like I had been many
times. You know when a bullet passes over you, the cracking sound it makes, and
that bullet had an absolute crack to it. I do believe that that shot was wild.
It didn't hit anybody. I don't think it could have hit anybody. But it was a
frightening thing to me because here was one shot that hit him, obviously; here
was another shot that destroyed his head, and what was the reason for that
third shot? That third shot frightened me more than the other two, and I
grabbed the boy and threw him on the ground because I didn't know if we were
going to have a 'shoot-'em-up' in this area."

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States
Army Ranger veteran, to Larry Sneed, "No More Silence" (1988)

Dave Reitzes

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>From: drobe...@aol.com (DRoberdeau)

>
>.John and Dave.... Please take a moment to actually read my discovery
>announcement of attack close witness ROSEMARY WILLIS's SECOND reaction
>seen in the ZAPRUDER film.... ROSEMARY's ultrafast 90 to 100 degree
>headsnap (that she most-likely involuntarily was attracted to execute)
>that occured in only 0.16 second at a 610 degrees-per-second headsnap rate
>from Zf-214 to 217 --when ROSEMARY snaps her head from facing the
>southWEST corner of the TSBD, to facing Mr. ZAPRUDER and the "grassy
>knoll."
>
>http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSEwillisANNOUNCEMENT.html
>
>The specific reference for ROSEMARY WILLIS's 1978 statement to the HSCA is
>provided within my discovery announcement.


Thanks, Don. Willis's name never came up when I searched my HSCA CD-ROM
because the Committee spelled her name "Rose Mary."

>From 12 HSCA 7:


<QUOTE ON>--------------------------

II. PRESENCE OF POSSIBLE GUNMAN ON THE GRASSY KNOLL

(24) The committee also examined information about the presence of a man
near the concrete structure on the grassy knoll near the area where some
witnesses said they believed gunfire had originated.

(25) The photographic evidence panel examined photographs make by Phillip
Willis of the area of the grassy knoll and concluded that a photograph
taken by Willis did show a person standing behind the concrete wall on the
knoll.(72) The panel determined that photograph was taken at approximately
frame 202 of the Zapruder film, which was after President Kennedy received
the neck wound but before the fatal head shot.(73) According to the
results of the panel's photographic enhancement and analysis, the figure
in the Willis photograph was consistent with that of an adult
approximately 5 feet 6 inches to 6 feet in height (74) and wearing dark
clothing.(75) The panel also noted that in another photograph by Willis,
which was taken after the Presidential limousine had left Dealey Plaza,
the figure standing behind the concrete wall had disappeared.(76) The
panel concluded that movement by the object was consistent with the
presence of a human being.(77)

(26) The photographic evidence panel also noted that in the first Willis
Photograph, which shows the person standing behind the concrete wall,
there is visible, near the region of the hands of the person at the wall,
"a very distinct straight-line feature," which extends from lower right to
upper right.(78) Nevertheless, because of the blur of the object in the
photograph, the panel was not able to determine the actual length of the
object and could not conclude whether it was or was not a weapon.(79)

(27) The committee interviewed Willis' daughter, Rose Mary Willis, on
November 8, 1978, at her home in Dallas. Ms. Willis stated that she was
present with her father and a sister in the area of the grass section of
the plaza at the time of the Presidential motorcade on November 22,
1963.(80) The other was a person who was standing just behind the concrete
wall near the triple underpass.(84) That person appeared to "disappear the
next instant."(85) Ms. Willis further described the location of this
person as the corner section of the white concrete wall between the area
of photographer Abraham Zapruder's right side and the top of the concrete
stairway leading up to the center of the grassy knoll.(86)

(29) Ms. Willis said she was aware of three shots being fired.(87) She
gave no information on the direction or location of the shots, but stated
that her father became upset when the policemen in the area appeared to
run away from where he thought the shots came from; that is; they were
running away from the grassy knoll.(88)

<QUOTE OFF>------------------------

John McAdams

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On 12 Aug 2004 01:32:42 -0400, drei...@aol.com (Dave Reitzes) wrote:

>>From: drobe...@aol.com (DRoberdeau)
>>
>>.John and Dave.... Please take a moment to actually read my discovery
>>announcement of attack close witness ROSEMARY WILLIS's SECOND reaction
>>seen in the ZAPRUDER film.... ROSEMARY's ultrafast 90 to 100 degree
>>headsnap (that she most-likely involuntarily was attracted to execute)
>>that occured in only 0.16 second at a 610 degrees-per-second headsnap rate
>>from Zf-214 to 217 --when ROSEMARY snaps her head from facing the
>>southWEST corner of the TSBD, to facing Mr. ZAPRUDER and the "grassy
>>knoll."
>>
>>http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSEwillisANNOUNCEMENT.html
>>
>>The specific reference for ROSEMARY WILLIS's 1978 statement to the HSCA is
>>provided within my discovery announcement.
>
>
>Thanks, Don. Willis's name never came up when I searched my HSCA CD-ROM
>because the Committee spelled her name "Rose Mary."
>
>>From 12 HSCA 7:
>
>

Good work. I was skeptical the HSCA interviewed her, since the
Photographic Evidence Panel clearly saw her and discussed her in the
Zapruder film but didn't know her name.

But the PEP wasn't necessarily given all the witness interviews.


><QUOTE ON>--------------------------
>
>II. PRESENCE OF POSSIBLE GUNMAN ON THE GRASSY KNOLL
>
>(24) The committee also examined information about the presence of a man
>near the concrete structure on the grassy knoll near the area where some
>witnesses said they believed gunfire had originated.
>
>(25) The photographic evidence panel examined photographs make by Phillip
>Willis of the area of the grassy knoll and concluded that a photograph
>taken by Willis did show a person standing behind the concrete wall on the
>knoll.(72) The panel determined that photograph was taken at approximately
>frame 202 of the Zapruder film, which was after President Kennedy received
>the neck wound but before the fatal head shot.(73) According to the
>results of the panel's photographic enhancement and analysis, the figure
>in the Willis photograph was consistent with that of an adult
>approximately 5 feet 6 inches to 6 feet in height (74) and wearing dark
>clothing.(75) The panel also noted that in another photograph by Willis,
>which was taken after the Presidential limousine had left Dealey Plaza,
>the figure standing behind the concrete wall had disappeared.(76) The
>panel concluded that movement by the object was consistent with the
>presence of a human being.(77)
>

This is the Black Dog Man, right?


>(26) The photographic evidence panel also noted that in the first Willis
>Photograph, which shows the person standing behind the concrete wall,
>there is visible, near the region of the hands of the person at the wall,
>"a very distinct straight-line feature," which extends from lower right to
>upper right.(78) Nevertheless, because of the blur of the object in the
>photograph, the panel was not able to determine the actual length of the
>object and could not conclude whether it was or was not a weapon.(79)
>
>(27) The committee interviewed Willis' daughter, Rose Mary Willis, on
>November 8, 1978, at her home in Dallas. Ms. Willis stated that she was
>present with her father and a sister in the area of the grass section of
>the plaza at the time of the Presidential motorcade on November 22,
>1963.(80) The other was a person who was standing just behind the concrete
>wall near the triple underpass.(84) That person appeared to "disappear the
>next instant."(85) Ms. Willis further described the location of this
>person as the corner section of the white concrete wall between the area
>of photographer Abraham Zapruder's right side and the top of the concrete
>stairway leading up to the center of the grassy knoll.(86)
>
>(29) Ms. Willis said she was aware of three shots being fired.(87) She
>gave no information on the direction or location of the shots, but stated
>that her father became upset when the policemen in the area appeared to
>run away from where he thought the shots came from; that is; they were
>running away from the grassy knoll.(88)
>

Huh!!??

Willis told the Warren Commission that he thought the shots came from
the Depository. If member serves, he was unhappy that people were
running *toward* the Knoll.

BTW, since you have this handy, what does note 88 reference?

.John

Dave Reitzes

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>From: john.m...@marquette.edu (John McAdams)


Right.


(80) Staff interview of Rose Mary Willis, Nov. 13, 1978, House
Select Committee on Assassinations (JFK Doc. No. 013056).
(81) Ibid.
(82) Ibid.
(83) Ibid.
(84) Ibid.
(85) Ibid.
(86) Ibid.
(87) Ibid.
(88) Id. at p. 2.

recip...@gmail.com

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Mar 6, 2020, 2:31:35 PM3/6/20
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Apparently, the HSCA spoke to Rosemary (it's listed as Rose Mary) as well
as her sister, Linda.

The contact report for Rosemary is here:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=109597&search=rose_mary+willis#relPageId=14&tab=page

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