Did Lee Harvey Oswald hate America?

[Ralph Cinque]

There isn't a speck of evidence that he did.

http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2016/08/mario-padilla-when-just-16-stabbed-his.html

[BOZ]

On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 12:37:43 AM UTC-3, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> There isn't a speck of evidence that he did.
>
> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2016/08/mario-padilla-when-just-16-stabbed-his.html

Oswald loved America so much that he defected to the Soviet Union.

[David Von Pein]

RALPH CINQUE SAID:

Did Lee Harvey Oswald hate America? There isn't a speck of evidence that
he did.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Yeah, right, Ralph. Lee just loved America (and Americans). That's why he
wrote this to his brother, Robert, on November 26, 1959, from Russia:

"In the event of war I would kill ANY American who put a uniform on in
defence of the American government--any American." -- Lee Harvey Oswald

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0423a.htm

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

David: I think this statement below, written after he returned from the
Soviet Union, is a more accurate summary of his later views. As you know,
he grew to dislike the Soviet system as much as the American one.

"No man [himself], having known, having lived, under the Russian Communist
and American capitalist system, could possibly make a choice between them.
There is no choice, one offers oppression the other poverty. Both offer
imperialistic injustice, tinted with two brands of slavery."

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/notesonCPUSA.htm

He really detested both America and the USSR.

[Ace Kefford]

Well, that's nitpicking.

[Ralph Cinque]

David, there is noproof that Oswald wrote that letter. He certainly didn't
acknowledge writing it. Therefore, I don't accept it; and therefore, you
can't use it. And I certainly don't trust a thing that Robert Oswald said,
and I mean not a word out of his mouth.

Robert Oswald visited LHO in jail. Now, you would think that at a time
like that, that he would try to be helpful. In this case, that meant
getting him a lawyer. The claim that Oswald turned down such help I do not
accept either, but Robert Oswald didn't even offer it. And let's just say
theoretically that Robert offered to get him a lawyer, and Oswald said no,
that he was waiting on Abt, What would a REAL brother have done? A real
brother would have smacked him upside the head, if necessary, and told
him,

"Shut your face, little brother. You're talking stupid. You need a lawyer;
and you need him right now. And, I mean a Texas lawyer; not some lawyer in
New York that you don't even know. So, don't say it again, and don't even
think again. Just drop it. I am getting you a Texas lawyer, and you are
going to keep your trap shut until he gets here. Now, you got that, little
brother?"

You see, that's what a real big brother would have done, But of course,
Robert Oswald didn't do it.

So, David, that phony letter? You can go ahead and use it as toilet paper.
It won't be any loss.

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

Did America hate Ralph Cinque ?

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

A person defects to the Soviet Union in the middle of the Cold War, does
press interviews where he openly denounces America, writes letters to his
brother denouncing the US and the claim is there's no evidence of his
hatred of America.

Forget about the paper trail, just ask: why did he defect? Clearly it
wasn't because he liked his life in the US.

[Steve Barber]

Oswald said as much in his letter to Robert he sent from Russia.

[Steve Barber]

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-4, Ralph Cinque wrote:

Who the hell are you to say that there is no evidence that the jerk said
he hated America? Whether or not you "accept it" has absolutely NOTHING to
do with anything.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 8/25/2016 2:30 PM, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> David, there is noproof that Oswald wrote that letter. He certainly didn't
> acknowledge writing it. Therefore, I don't accept it; and therefore, you

How do you know? Did you ask him. You always guess at things.

> can't use it. And I certainly don't trust a thing that Robert Oswald said,
> and I mean not a word out of his mouth.
>
> Robert Oswald visited LHO in jail. Now, you would think that at a time
> like that, that he would try to be helpful. In this case, that meant

Why?

> getting him a lawyer. The claim that Oswald turned down such help I do not

Robert didn't try to get a lawyer for his brother.

[David Von Pein]

RALPH CINQUE SAID:

David, there is no proof that Oswald wrote that letter.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

You're kidding.....aren't you?

[bigdog]

Face it. The guy was a loser his entire life and never accepted
responsibility for his lowly situation. Not in the USSR. Not in the USA.
I've known lot's of people like that. Most of them didn't kill a POTUS. My
own theory of Oswald's motive is that killing JFK was his way of saying
"fuck you" to the rest of the world. No evidence to support that view.
Just a hunch.

[Ralph Cinque]

I guess you haven't heard about the false defector program.

[tims...@gmail.com]

LOL! BOZ has nailed it in one! Cop THAT Cinque!

Chortlin' Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.

And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm

X marks the spot where SENIOR OIC member Mark Lane lied!

Stop the LIES! Oswald INSIDE!! Disband the OIC!!!

[John Reagor King]

In article <39b8e1a0-76e6-4ff7...@googlegroups.com>,

Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David, there is noproof that Oswald wrote that letter.

Really? So you think Lee's own brother didn't recognize his brother's
handwriting? And are you a handwriting expert, Mr. Cinque? If I recall
correctly real (not pretend) handwriting experts (plural) examined that
and many other writings and determined them to have been written by the
same person.

> He certainly didn't
> acknowledge writing it.

Oh, so just because Lee didn't acknowledge writing it that automatically
means he was telling the truth? How do you know he wasn't lying, Mr.
Cinque?

> Therefore, I don't accept it; and therefore, you
> can't use it.

It is not your place to dictate to the rest of us what evidence we can
and cannot present in this newsgroup. This is not your newsgroup. You
did not create this newsgroup in the 1990s. You do not own this
newsgroup's primary news-server. You are not one of the moderators of
this newsgroup. So yes we *can* use this evidence. And we can use it
not *almost* any time we please, but *any* time we please, no matter
what you say.

> And I certainly don't trust a thing that Robert Oswald said,
> and I mean not a word out of his mouth.

So you can "prove" Robert Oswald was lying about this letter? Perhaps
you can explain this then:

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0424
a.jpg

Oh oops, I was the first person in this thread to post this link.
According to you only, and no other human on this planet, that
automatically makes this "my" image. Never mind that this letter wasn't
sent to me. You'll falsely claim this to be "my" image, as if
everything seen in the image is "my" responsibility. Correct? The only
way you can disagree is that you have to now contradict your earlier
statements about me posting a link to the Robert Jackson photo, which is
the same thing as openly admitting you were wrong, whether you realize
it or not, whether you admit it or not.

Now, that is the envelope in which the letter was sent. Are you
claiming that Robert Oswald "faked" all that on the envelope, including
what appears to be a stamp of the Soviet postal service? And if Lee
Oswald didn't send this letter to Robert, then who did?

Oh, here's another image. You'll of course falsely claim this is "my"
image, just because I'm the first person who posted this link in this
thread and no other reason:

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0424
b.jpg

Did Robert "fake" that one also?

And did Robert "fake" this one too?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0425
a.jpg

And this one?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0425
b.jpg

And this one?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0426
a.jpg

And this one?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0426
b.jpg

And this one, which is partially written in Russian?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0427
a.jpg

And did Robert Oswald "fake" what is seen on this envelope?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0427
b.jpg

Did Robert Oswald "fake" this one also?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0428
a.jpg

Did Robert "fake" all this also, including everything that was stamped
on the envelope?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pages/WH_Vol16_0428
b.jpg

I'm no handwriting expert either, but that sure looks like the same
person's handwriting on a good many of those pages to me. Can you prove
that isn't Lee Oswald's handwriting, Mr. Cinque? And if he didn't write
all that stuff, who did? Can you prove that is actually Robert Oswald's
handwriting instead? How would you prove it?

[John McAdams]

On 26 Aug 2016 20:23:04 -0400, John Reagor King <caer...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Real handwriting experts did examine these documents.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=961#relPageId=227

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[Jason Burke]

It's become obvious to me that Raff* is trying to write The Great
American Novel, and that he's just throwing spaghetti at the wall trying
to find some that sticks.

[Ralph Cinque]

No, I am adamantly saying that he didn't write it.

http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2016/08/there-is-handwritten-letter-that-lho.html

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

Oswald lived his entire adult life - except when the Soviets gave him a
job and a stipend - in desperate poverty. He had no house, no phone, no
car, no wealth, no savings, nothing of any substantial, i.e., above
poverty, worth.

On the day of the assassination he was making $10 a day filling book
orders in a warehouse. That was his future. He had nothing else to look
forward to. He had no job skills, no education worth anything, no future
at all.

Anyway, he's a fake defector doing it for free? Is this the argument?

In any case, I've heard the allegations about this so-called "fake
defector" program.

I've also heard about leprechauns and pixey dust.

[Ralph Cinque]

And the HSCA found anthropologists to say that Doorman was Lovelady-
though with a lot of disclaimers.

The State will always find experts, and even scientists, to back their
claims. It's not hard to do.

For those that haven't read it, I have demolished the authenticity of the
"letter to Robert" here:

http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2016/08/there-is-handwritten-letter-that-lho.html

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

Terrific post, thanks.

Mr. Cinque will likely claim that Oswald was acting and was part of a
"fake defector" program where he impersonated being an anti-American,
pro-Soviet person seeking asylum.

This is the general view of the conspiracy crowd: that Oswald's pro-Soviet
persona was just that, a role or "legend" or cover story done as part of a
ONI or CIA operation.

[Ralph Cinque]

Oswald was never formally a CIA agent, and there is no evidence he
received any salary. But, he may have gotten some money. Dr. Gerald
McKnight makes a big deal out of the fact that Oswald traveled rather
expensively to Russia, for instance, staying at a very expensive hotel in
Finland. Would he have done that on his own dime? Oswald was manipulated
into going to Russia, just as he was manipulated into going to New Orleans
and manipulated into going to Dallas and taking the job at the TSBD so
that he could be framed for the JFK assassination.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 8/27/2016 9:39 AM, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Oswald lived his entire adult life - except when the Soviets gave him a
> job and a stipend - in desperate poverty. He had no house, no phone, no
> car, no wealth, no savings, nothing of any substantial, i.e., above
> poverty, worth.
>
> On the day of the assassination he was making $10 a day filling book
> orders in a warehouse. That was his future. He had nothing else to look
> forward to. He had no job skills, no education worth anything, no future
> at all.
>
> Anyway, he's a fake defector doing it for free? Is this the argument?
>

Doing WHAT for free? Do you have an argument?
we can't tell when you snip out the context.
Just a reminder, the earliest conspiracy theory was that Castro had paid
him $6,500 to kill the President. Maybe you think that in 1963 that
would be like $1M today. Even Hoover was so stupid that it sounded
plausible to him. Does it sound plausible to you?


Someone started a rumor that Oswald was an FBI informant being paid $200
month. Does THAT sound plausible to you?
That would buy a lot of shoes for Junie.
Could he buy his own house then?

> In any case, I've heard the allegations about this so-called "fake
> defector" program.
>

So what? You've never read any of the real documents about it.
In case you forgot, you are a WC defender and not allowed to read Top
Secret documents.

> I've also heard about leprechauns and pixey dust.
>

You're not cleared for Operation Pixie Dust.

[Anthony Marsh]

Thanks, but you need to learn how to use the InterNet and point
specifically to the documents we were discussing.

> .John
> -----------------------
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>

[Anthony Marsh]

On 8/26/2016 8:23 PM, John Reagor King wrote:
> In article <39b8e1a0-76e6-4ff7...@googlegroups.com>,
> Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> David, there is noproof that Oswald wrote that letter.
>
> Really? So you think Lee's own brother didn't recognize his brother's
> handwriting? And are you a handwriting expert, Mr. Cinque? If I recall
> correctly real (not pretend) handwriting experts (plural) examined that
> and many other writings and determined them to have been written by the
> same person.
>
>> He certainly didn't
>> acknowledge writing it.
>
> Oh, so just because Lee didn't acknowledge writing it that automatically
> means he was telling the truth? How do you know he wasn't lying, Mr.
> Cinque?
>
>> Therefore, I don't accept it; and therefore, you
>> can't use it.
>
> It is not your place to dictate to the rest of us what evidence we can
> and cannot present in this newsgroup. This is not your newsgroup. You
> did not create this newsgroup in the 1990s. You do not own this
> newsgroup's primary news-server. You are not one of the moderators of

Primary news-server? WTF does that mean?
Can you remember the exact date that this newsgroup was created?
You aren't that old. Was it Al Gore?

> this newsgroup. So yes we *can* use this evidence. And we can use it
> not *almost* any time we please, but *any* time we please, no matter
> what you say.
>

In fact no one will admit who the moderators are. The whole thing is a
hoax.

[Bud]

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 9:29:07 AM UTC-4, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> No, I am adamantly saying that he didn't write it.
>
> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2016/08/there-is-handwritten-letter-that-lho.html

Twaddle [noun] trivial or foolish speech or writing; nonsense.

[Anthony Marsh]

No. He thinks ALL evidence is fake. The ONLY thing that is real is his
imagination.

[Ralph Cinque]

Robert Oswald is not the brother of Lee Harvey Oswald (of fame), and he
was involved in framing him. Read John Armstrong.

www.harveyandlee.net

[Anthony Marsh]

All you ever have is guessing.

[Anthony Marsh]

It was also the view of the CIA and KGB and even Hoover worried about an
Oswald impersonator.
Yes, all kooks.

[OHLeeRedux]

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 8:01:55 PM UTC-7, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> On 8/27/2016 9:39 AM, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Oswald lived his entire adult life - except when the Soviets gave him a
> > job and a stipend - in desperate poverty. He had no house, no phone, no
> > car, no wealth, no savings, nothing of any substantial, i.e., above
> > poverty, worth.
> >
> > On the day of the assassination he was making $10 a day filling book
> > orders in a warehouse. That was his future. He had nothing else to look
> > forward to. He had no job skills, no education worth anything, no future
> > at all.
> >
> > Anyway, he's a fake defector doing it for free? Is this the argument?
> >
>
>
> Doing WHAT for free? Do you have an argument?
> we can't tell when you snip out the context.
>

Nobody snipped out anything, Anthony. We can all see what the poster is
talking about.

You need to upgrade your software to something that was created after the
Nixon administration. But then you wouldn't be able to use your excuse of
not being able to see anything posted before yesterday: "What are you
talking about? What response? Who are you? Why is there a shoe in my
soup?"

[Small Potatoes]

On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 11:37:43 PM UTC-4, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> There isn't a speck of evidence that he did.
>
> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2016/08/mario-padilla-when-just-16-stabbed-his.html

Oswald was as an S.A.O. and C.I.A. operative. It's not a stretch to
believe he was planted in Russia as a "spy."

[Anthony Marsh]

Garbage.

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

Ralph lives on a Flat Earth.

[Anthony Marsh]

Kevin, I'm not sure what you are trying to say or if you know anything
at all about the intelligence agencies, but I do and I can tell you that
Oswald was not "an S.A.O." whatever you think that means.
And he was never a CIA officer or agent. The CIA can borrow people from
the military and use them in operations without officially making them
officers or agents. In some cases they are just ON LOAN.
For example, for the CIA's Bay of Pigs invasion the CIA BORROWED a
Marine Colonel to run the operation from CIA HQs.
My father was an NSA officer who was also the liaison to the CIA.
So he worked with the CIA every day, not FOR them.
Oswald was used by the CIA for a one-time operation to test the KGB's
vetting process for defectors before sending in fake defectors.
It's called the CANARY in the coal mine.
You don't risk sending in your top agent who might be easily revealed
and killed. You test to see what alarm bells go off in what departments.

[John Reagor King]

In article <a9f12224-4b88-41a5...@googlegroups.com>,

I've read John Armstrong, years ago, and his claims has all sorts of holes
in them. Here's just one example:

Armstrong wrote:

"Marina told the FBI (CE 1843) that "Lee Harvey Oswald" had only two
jackets, one a heavy jacket, blue in color (later found at the TSBD), and
another light jacket, grey in color. She said both of these jackets were
purchased in Russia."

Notice how he even cited the exact FBI report, CE 1843, to back up his
claim that these jackets were purchased in Russia. But that very document
says something entirely different:

"She said she believes OSWALD possessed both of these jackets in Russia
and had purchased them in the United States prior to his departure for
Russia."

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/pages/WH_Vol23_0277
a.gif

So, you see how John Armstrong, even after citing a specific document,
still badly misrepresented what that document actually says. How do you
know he didn't make similar mistakes in other claims that he made as well?

[John Reagor King]

In article <dd273321-576a-474b...@googlegroups.com>,

Actually he brought up the two different Oswalds scenario as proposed by
John Armstrong, a person whom I find to be quite unreliable in
representing the evidence objectively.

[John Reagor King]

In article <afe5f266-76f0-4ef0...@googlegroups.com>,

You come nowhere close to "demolishing" the authenticity of that letter
on that blog page; you merely mistakenly *think* you have done so. You
produce no other example of handwriting purported to be Oswald's there
beyond that single page, thus you have not come anywhere even remotely
close to "proving" that is not his handwriting in that one particular
letter. I myself have already produced examples dating from before,
during, and after the time he lived in the Soviet Union. "Prove" that
all of those were not written by the same person, Mr. Cinque. You know
you can't.

[John Reagor King]

In article <06e6281f-81b6-472a...@googlegroups.com>,

And that blog page comes nowhere even remotely close to proving he
didn't write it. The only possible way to prove he didn't write it is
to prove that the handwriting is that of a different person from the one
who wrote letters in the United States before leaving for the Soviet
Union, and to additionally prove that a different person wrote letters
in the United States after coming back from the Soviet Union. Since you
do not specifically analyze any of the handwriting itself from different
dates in different years, you don't have a case. Also you are quite
obviously nothing even remotely close to a genuine handwriting expert
anyway, so any such analysis undertaken by you would be of little value.
I may appear to be contradicting what I myself have said about a much
later pair of documents written ten months after Oswald's death, but
there I wasn't claiming those two documents to have been written by
different people.

[John Reagor King]

In article <4e36d1af-0605-4230...@googlegroups.com>,
Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess you haven't heard about the false defector program.

I guess you don't know how to analyze handwriting.

[John Reagor King]

In article <411c7431-d573-4d04...@googlegroups.com>,

Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oswald was never formally a CIA agent, and there is no evidence he
> received any salary.

So he did all this for free?

> But, he may have gotten some money.

"May have" is hardly the same thing as "did."

> Dr. Gerald
> McKnight makes a big deal out of the fact that Oswald traveled rather
> expensively to Russia, for instance, staying at a very expensive hotel in
> Finland.

According to the WCR he stayed in the Torni Hotel for one night, then
went to the Klaus Kurki Hotel for the remainder of his stay in Helsinki.
Your evidence that either of these hotels was considered "very
expensive" at the time is, what, exactly? What was the exact rate per
night at each hotel in U.S. dollars at the time? Do you even know?

> Would he have done that on his own dime?

Possibly so, depending on what the rate was per night at each of those
hotels.

> Oswald was manipulated
> into going to Russia, just as he was manipulated into going to New Orleans
> and manipulated into going to Dallas and taking the job at the TSBD so
> that he could be framed for the JFK assassination.

You have no proof of that.

[Anthony Marsh]

Are you saying that Ralph is small potatoes or has small potatoes?

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

The listening device never falls far from the tree.

I always knew you were Company, Anthony. You must have been in Files.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 8/31/2016 10:52 PM, John Reagor King wrote:
> In article <411c7431-d573-4d04...@googlegroups.com>,
> Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oswald was never formally a CIA agent, and there is no evidence he
>> received any salary.
>
> So he did all this for free?
>

Some people do. My father did it for $1.

>> But, he may have gotten some money.
>
> "May have" is hardly the same thing as "did."
>

Clay Shaw "may have" gotten some money, but he really didn't need it.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 8/31/2016 10:33 PM, John Reagor King wrote:
> In article <a9f12224-4b88-41a5...@googlegroups.com>,
> Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Robert Oswald is not the brother of Lee Harvey Oswald (of fame), and he
>> was involved in framing him. Read John Armstrong.
>>
>> www.harveyandlee.net
>
> I've read John Armstrong, years ago, and his claims has all sorts of holes
> in them. Here's just one example:
>
> Armstrong wrote:
>
> "Marina told the FBI (CE 1843) that "Lee Harvey Oswald" had only two
> jackets, one a heavy jacket, blue in color (later found at the TSBD), and
> another light jacket, grey in color. She said both of these jackets were
> purchased in Russia."
>
> Notice how he even cited the exact FBI report, CE 1843, to back up his
> claim that these jackets were purchased in Russia. But that very document
> says something entirely different:
>
> "She said she believes OSWALD possessed both of these jackets in Russia
> and had purchased them in the United States prior to his departure for
> Russia."
>

What did the tags say?
And even in Russia then I bet he could buy a US made jacket.

[Anthony Marsh]

Silly. After what the CIA did to my father I would never want to work
for them.

[Ralph Cinque]

If there was a tag in Oswald's shirt, you can be sure they removed it.
They never showed us any image of the shirt which would have shown the
tag. They never showed us any image of the shirt that looked like the
shirt on Oswald's back.

[OHLeeRedux]

LOL!

[Anthony Marsh]

And who was allowed to examine the shirt and see the tag?
The cover-up. Not the public.
I asked the National Archives to allow me to see the chrome topping and
they said I'd never be allowed to see it.

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

Do you believe the NA refused to let you see the topping because they are
part of a coverup? That's a question not an allegation.

Tony, there is no Soviet Union anymore. There is no fear of a WWIII if the
story comes out that Castro was behind the assassination (there's no
credible evidence, for me, that he was).

Why would all of these people coverup for a crime that took place when
many of them weren't even alive? And to prevent a war with a country that
doesn't exist?

Your coverup argument may have made sense a half century ago but it
doesn't make sense today.

[OHLeeRedux]

Anthony Marsh
- show quoted text -

And who was allowed to examine the shirt and see the tag?
The cover-up. Not the public.
I asked the National Archives to allow me to see the chrome topping and
they said I'd never be allowed to see it.

Nonsense.

[John Reagor King]

In article <fdfe6dae-145e-40d9...@googlegroups.com>,

Who were you replying to here? It's this difficult for you to type the
first and last name of the person you're replying to? And why do you
never, or almost never, quote any of the text of the article you're
replying to, like all other posters do here except for Johnny Meyer? He
said he's using a phone to post through Google Groups, one of the worst
methods available to post articles to newsgroups on Usenet. Are you using
a phone instead of your computer, Mr. Cinque? If so, what's so hard about
using the computer to post through Google Groups instead of a phone, since
when you do it on the computer, Google Groups opens the reply window with
the text of the article you're replying to already quoted for you?

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/10/2016 6:56 PM, John Reagor King wrote:
> In article <fdfe6dae-145e-40d9...@googlegroups.com>,
> Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If there was a tag in Oswald's shirt, you can be sure they removed it.
>> They never showed us any image of the shirt which would have shown the
>> tag. They never showed us any image of the shirt that looked like the
>> shirt on Oswald's back.
>
> Who were you replying to here? It's this difficult for you to type the
> first and last name of the person you're replying to? And why do you

Knowing Ralph he was probably replying to me. Who else would bring up
the idea of the tag?

This was before Hanes went tagless.

> never, or almost never, quote any of the text of the article you're
> replying to, like all other posters do here except for Johnny Meyer? He
> said he's using a phone to post through Google Groups, one of the worst
> methods available to post articles to newsgroups on Usenet. Are you using
> a phone instead of your computer, Mr. Cinque? If so, what's so hard about
> using the computer to post through Google Groups instead of a phone, since
> when you do it on the computer, Google Groups opens the reply window with
> the text of the article you're replying to already quoted for you?
>

Too complicate for the kids nowadays. He can barely handle Twitter.

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

Ralph is only qualified to use a keyboard, but always chooses the wrong
one. Hey, Ralph, sing us a song !!

[Ralph Cinque]

Here's my latest. Now, don't be a schmo and give it a dislike- a rotten
thing to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXtCLBmjESY&feature=youtu.be

[John Reagor King]

In article <87f1bfc7-6302-495d...@googlegroups.com>,

I think you play quite well, and I will certainly *not* give it a
dislike.

However, may I ask, what does this have to do with the JFK
assassination? ;-)

[Ralph Cinque]

Well, nothing, but Pink did ask me to sing a song.

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

Ralph, that's fantastic.

Why not spend your life making beautiful things like this and leave this
ugliness behind?

Really.

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

This is how Ralph sends subliminal messages to his 'senior members', Mr.
King. We can't hear them, but they do. Wait……… I
just heard "Roy Lewis".

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

If Pink asks Ralph to sing a song…….. he sings a song,
dadgummit !!! I command thee !! The Power of Christ compels thee !!!
Heal, Heathen !!!! Heal !!!!

[Anthony Marsh]

Indeed, what do you know about the JFK assassination?

[TOMNLN]

On Sat Aug 27 09:25:47 2016 Jason Burke wrote:
> On 8/26/2016 7:04 AM, Steve Barber wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-4, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> >> David, there is noproof that Oswald wrote that letter. He certainly didn't
> >> acknowledge writing it. Therefore, I don't accept it; and therefore, you
> >> can't use it. And I certainly don't trust a thing that Robert Oswald said,

> >> and I mean not a word out of his mouth.
> >>

> >> Robert Oswald visited LHO in jail. Now, you would think that at a time
> >> like that, that he would try to be helpful. In this case, that meant
> >> getting him a lawyer. The claim that Oswald turned down such help I do not
> >> accept either, but Robert Oswald didn't even offer it. And let's just say
> >> theoretically that Robert offered to get him a lawyer, and Oswald said no,
> >> that he was waiting on Abt, What would a REAL brother have done? A real
> >> brother would have smacked him upside the head, if necessary, and told
> >> him,
> >>
> >> "Shut your face, little brother. You're talking stupid. You need a lawyer;
> >> and you need him right now. And, I mean a Texas lawyer; not some lawyer in
> >> New York that you don't even know. So, don't say it again, and don't even
> >> think again. Just drop it. I am getting you a Texas lawyer, and you are
> >> going to keep your trap shut until he gets here. Now, you got that, little
> >> brother?"
> >>
> >> You see, that's what a real big brother would have done, But of course,
> >> Robert Oswald didn't do it.
> >>
> >> So, David, that phony letter? You can go ahead and use it as toilet paper.
> >> It won't be any loss.
> >
> > Who the hell are you to say that there is no evidence that the jerk said
> > he hated America? Whether or not you "accept it" has absolutely NOTHING to
> > do with anything.
> >
>
> It's become obvious to me that Raff* is trying to write The Great
> American Novel, and that he's just throwing spaghetti at the wall trying
> to find some that sticks.
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[Jason Burke]

AND THIS PROVES JUST WHAT TOMLIN ! ! !
AND THIS HAS JUST WHAT TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT AT HAND TOMLIN ! ! !

>>
>
>

[TOMNLN]

On Fri Aug 26 17:02:47 2016 bigdog wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 6:51:23 PM UTC-4, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 10:39:14 PM UTC-5, David Von Pein wrote:
> > > RALPH CINQUE SAID:
> > >
> > > Did Lee Harvey Oswald hate America? There isn't a speck of evidence that
> > > he did.
> > >
> > >
> > > DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
> > >
> > > Yeah, right, Ralph. Lee just loved America (and Americans). That's why he
> > > wrote this to his brother, Robert, on November 26, 1959, from Russia:
> > >
> > > "In the event of war I would kill ANY American who put a uniform on in
> > > defence of the American government--any American." -- Lee Harvey Oswald
> > >
> > > http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0423a.htm
> >
> > David: I think this statement below, written after he returned from the
> > Soviet Union, is a more accurate summary of his later views. As you know,
> > he grew to dislike the Soviet system as much as the American one.
> >
> > "No man [himself], having known, having lived, under the Russian Communist
> > and American capitalist system, could possibly make a choice between them.
> > There is no choice, one offers oppression the other poverty. Both offer
> > imperialistic injustice, tinted with two brands of slavery."
> >
> > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/notesonCPUSA.htm
> >
> > He really detested both America and the USSR.
>
> Face it. The guy was a loser his entire life and never accepted
> responsibility for his lowly situation. Not in the USSR. Not in the USA.
> I've known lot's of people like that. Most of them didn't kill a POTUS. My
> own theory of Oswald's motive is that killing JFK was his way of saying
> "fuck you" to the rest of the world. No evidence to support that view.
> Just a hunch.
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