Donald P. and Donald O. Norton
curtjester1
Fort Benning, Georgia. In February his CIA handler told him to to
meet a man named "Hugh Ferris" at the Atlanta Airport and pick up a
package. Nortan arrived at the airport an met "Hugh Ferris," who was
wearing sunglasses and accompanied by a young lady named Carlotta
Roth, a dancer at the Domino Lounge in Atlanta. "Ferris" gave Norton
a package, which appearedto be a case of phonograph records, and told
him "it" was in the case. Norton undersood that "it" was $150,000 in
cash which was to be delivered to Carlo Media, a Cuban television star
who was working with the CIA againt the corrupt regime of Fulgenico
Batista.
After travelling to Cuba and delivering the package to Media, Norton
returned to Atlanta and reported to his CIA contact. His contact
instructed him to once again meet "Hugh Ferris" at the Atlanta
airport. When "Ferris" arrived at the meeting, Norton noticed that he
was wearing a very sloppy wig. Two years later, in 1960, Norton
visited New Orleans and stopped by the My-O-My Club, and saw the man
from whom he had picked up the package in Atlanta. Norton positively
identified the man as David W. Ferrie.
Donald P. Norton, the CIA agent who received $150,000 from David
Ferrie in 1958 and delivered cash to Havana, was given another
assignment involving Cuba in the fall of 1962. On this occasion he
was given a case full of money and told to travel to Monterrey, Mexico
and meet "Harvey LEE." Norton took the case, traveled to Monterrey as
directed, and checked into the Yamajel Hotel. Before he was able to
get to his room Norton was met by "Harvey Lee."
The two men went into the hotel bar to drink a couple of beers and
relax. Norton recalled that "Harvey LEE" refused to look him in the
eye. He described "Harvey Lee" as a man of slight build who was
dressed casually and said that he was from New Orleans. When Norton
saw photographs of "Lee Harvey Oswald" in the newspaper following the
assassination, he said the man was identical to the "Harvey LEE" he
met in Monterrey, except that his hair appeared to be thinner: Norton
delivered the case full of money to "Harvey Lee" and was given a
briefcase full of documents in return.
Norton took the documents and drove, as instructed, to Calgary in
Alberta, Canada. When approached by his CIA contact, who identified
himself by using the phrase, "The weather is very warm in Tulsa,"
Norton told his contact the documents were in his room. Norton
retrieved the documents and met his contact in the parking lot, where
he found the man sitting in a Volkswagen. Norton gave the documents
to his contact and then left. He then telephoned Mr. Albert Penn,
another of his CIA contacts in Five Points, Alabama. Penn instructed
Norton to proceed to Boston, Mass., which he did. The importance of
Donald P. Norton's testimony is that it places LEE Oswald in Mexico
while HARVEY Oswald was working at Leslie Welding in Fort Worth.
The late JFK researcher Mae Brussell corresponded with a young man
named Donald O. Norton from Akron Ohio. Norton told Mae that he was
the real Lee Harvey Oswald. Researchers John Judge and Bill Kelly met
this man in Mae's presence once at the University of Toledo. Other
researchers later determined that Norton was still living, and
obtained a photo of young Norton. Later he moved to Florida, and an
older photo of him was obtained as he looks today. His left eye, in
particular as well as his nose, looks very much like the Marine photo
of Oswald.
Handwriting expemplars of Donald O. Norton and Lee Harvey Oswald were
compared and found to be very similar, as shown (in The Zapruder Film
Hoax Of The Century)----especially the WALD and NALD. Is Norton
really Oswald? It is a very curious story, especially given that a
CIA agent named Donald P. Norton was discovered during the Garrison
investigation and LHO had a penchant for using aliases for people he
had known personally on 'assignments'.
CJ
curtjester1
I just wanted to add a few items. The picture of Donald O. Norton in The
Great Zapruder Film Hoax, pg. 93 doesn't look like the pic of Donald O. in
the Education Forum. Here are a few areas of ideas that can be gleaned
from my posting. Also one of the Oswald signatures used for comparison
came from the 'Dear Mr. Hunt' letter for what I can tell.
Education Forum: JFK Donald P. and O. Norton
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9113&st=45
Donald P. Norton CIA, Garrison Archives
CJ
Rudy Lasparri
Donald P. Norton appears to have been a courier for the CIA. He was a
known homosexual and was used to infiltrate various gay mens groups. In
between assignments, he worked as a pianist in various lounges. Donald P.
is deceased.
Donald Oreste Norton seems to be the individual that Mae Brussel met in
Dayton in the early 70s. He identified himself as Lee Harvey Oswald. At
that point Mae was with John Judge. Bill Kelly had left the group.
Judge and Brussell went to Brussell's house for coffee and chatted awhile.
Mae noted that Donald O. had been sending her donations which he referred
to as "conscience" money.
Donald O. is married to a woman named Lexie. He has lived in Ohio, and
Florida but a search of personal records shows that the two maintained
addresses in Washington (state) and Arizona. The address of the Arizona
house had a mortgage held by Boatmen's Bank of St Louis, a possible CIA
front company. Although the address showed up as one of Donald O.'s
residences -- he never actually loved there. He listed the address once
on a credit application. He never actually lived at the Washington
address either.
Donald O. was originally from Stowe, Ohio, outside of Akron. Since the
Brussell story broke researchers have sought contact with him and
succeeded a few times although he had nothing to say. He and his wife
have moved several times literally overnight.
A few years ago, they were living in Juptiter, FL near Ft Lauderdale. They
then moved to Avon Park, FL, near Sebring. Avon Park was most noted as
being the location of a bombing range used by nearby MacDill AFB. Donald
O. set up a bait and tackle shop and also sponsored deep fishing tours.
Last year Norton was contacted by a researcher via email asking him if he
was the birth Oswald. A few other "researchers" tried to make contact
with him at his store. Once again, overnight, he vacated his house and
shop and moved. To my knowledge, his whereabouts are presently unknown.
To make matters worse, some researchers insist on confusing Donald O. with
Donald P Norton. They are 2 separate people with similar names. One is
deceased, the other, as recent as 6 months ago, is still alive.
There is compelling evidence that Donald O. was born in NOLA in 1939 and
helped set up Harvey Oswald (who was killed by Jack Ruby). It is believed
that Donald O. is the natural brother of Robert Oswald. A DNA test would
be more conclusive.
In his research John Armstrong discovered that June and Rachel Oswald have
never received as mush as a birthday card ot Christmas card from Robert
Oswald. Apparently they know he is not their uncle.
Some believe that LHO was given a new identity after the assassination --
BUT-- that it was not a made up identity. The identity Donald O. Norton
belonged to a boy born in Stowe, OH in 1948. He had a real birth
certificate and a real SS#.
There is much, much more to this story which has been discussed over the
years ad nauseum. Truthfully, I've had enough of the story, and thanks to
some irresponsible researchers we have lost track of Donald O.
cdddraftsman
CJ subscribes to 'Big Whopper' magazine .
The premere magazine that features various small , Medium and BIG
WHOPPERS .
tl
cdddraftsman
To say the least .
More likely the sillyest story thats non-believable .
Really CJ can't you find another story of the 50,000 yarns that would
make you look more credible ?
Just curious .
tl
Anthony Marsh
Again, another wacky theory which could have been settled in 10 minutes.
Just take fingerprints. End of theory.
> CJ
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Thanks Rudy, for the intesting comments. I think the story is just
fine as is. Perhaps, LHO isn't running so much from bumbling
researchers, as he is just trying to erase himself from the public
eye? Maybe a little of getting to close to the fire, IMO. If you
haven't seen the picture of Donald O. in The Zapruder FilmHoax of the
Century, then, I think it a must, as with the mustache, it has a
striking resemblence to New Orleans-born LHO. I also was just
reading, and I forgot who, but the heavy-set Marguerite (that was a
half a foot shorter than the birth Marguerite of the real Oswald),
said in confidence to a main player that she was not real mother of
the slain, TSBD LHO.
CJ
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Your sounding like a CIA Apologetic Stooge. The CIA operates normally
what people consider wacky. If you throw in a rogue element that was
in on the JFK assassination, what kind of wacky wouldn't one expect?
Fingerprints? Sure. Exhume the body in Ft. Worth. Get the prints on
file from the Tippit vehicle that were lifted. There must be some
record of prints for the LHO that had a driver's license or signing up
for the military to compare. Can even do a little DNA testing. Just
find LHO again, and take the glass that he's drinking out of......
CJ
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If you get your head out of the Sixth Floor and quit trying to sound
like Clark Wilkins, perhaps you can look for Asylum in another part of
your haunt's?
CJ
Anthony Marsh
Typical response from a proponent of a wacky theory. If I don't buy your
story 100% you peg me as a government agent. I see this all the time from
people who are not able to support their theories.
> Fingerprints? Sure. Exhume the body in Ft. Worth. Get the prints on
> file from the Tippit vehicle that were lifted. There must be some
> record of prints for the LHO that had a driver's license or signing up
> for the military to compare. Can even do a little DNA testing. Just
> find LHO again, and take the glass that he's drinking out of......
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I hadn't thought about DNA, but go for it. I said taking fingerprints of
this supposed second Oswald could have cleared it up immediately. The
story is bogus.
> CJ
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Anthony Marsh
It is ludicrous of you to speak of this guy as if he is the real Lee
Harvey Oswald. It is bogus.
curtjester1
Typical response from an Apologetic. It's bogus because you can't think
of a reason why it is or isn't. It's not like trying on shoes, and not
liking a pair and going to something that looks good.
> > Fingerprints? Sure. Exhume the body in Ft. Worth. Get the prints on
> > file from the Tippit vehicle that were lifted. There must be some
> > record of prints for the LHO that had a driver's license or signing up
> > for the military to compare. Can even do a little DNA testing. Just
> > find LHO again, and take the glass that he's drinking out of......
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> I hadn't thought about DNA, but go for it. I said taking fingerprints of
> this supposed second Oswald could have cleared it up immediately. The
> story is bogus.
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Or made a match, huh? Wow, you are a 'one-sider', aren't you? Would you
look closer at the theory if the Ft. Worth body was exhumed and it didn't
match Rachel, June, or Robert? I suggest one get a copy of The Search For
Lee Harvey Oswald by Groden, and you can see the autopsy photo's of 'LHO'
and all the surrounding event pictures to show that the one killed and
buried by Ruby and buried at Rosehill is NOT the LHO born in New Orleans.
CJ
curtjester1
Why?, many have, even a poster in this thread. Maybe if you research
something instead of playing armchair quarterback, you might have a
different view, or something to add to the discussion.
CJ
William Yates
But your constant denunciations of people "WC defenders" and your
constant references to CIA tactics are completely different, right?
Rudy Lasparri
All one would need to do is compare Robert Oswald's DNA with June
Oswald's. They should match -- but -- they won't because Robert is not
related to her. Robert has already been approached and (no surprise) he
refused. He is protected, as is Donald O. Norton.
As for fingerprints, that idea is asinine. When someone enters the
Federal Protection Program and are given a new identity old fingerprints
records are destroyed. So if you got Donald O's prints, who are you going
to compare them to??
He is protected. A match will never be allowed. Unless they're ready to
give him up.
Anthony Marsh
Yes, because mine are accurate for what they do.
Anthony Marsh
Doesn't matter how many think it, the idea is ludicrous.
> CJ
Anthony Marsh
Exactly what I said before, a typical ploy of those who advance wacky
theories.
>>> Fingerprints? Sure. Exhume the body in Ft. Worth. Get the prints on
>>> file from the Tippit vehicle that were lifted. There must be some
>>> record of prints for the LHO that had a driver's license or signing up
>>> for the military to compare. Can even do a little DNA testing. Just
>>> find LHO again, and take the glass that he's drinking out of......
>> I hadn't thought about DNA, but go for it. I said taking fingerprints of
>> this supposed second Oswald could have cleared it up immediately. The
>> story is bogus.
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> Or made a match, huh? Wow, you are a 'one-sider', aren't you? Would you
> look closer at the theory if the Ft. Worth body was exhumed and it didn't
> match Rachel, June, or Robert? I suggest one get a copy of The Search For
> Lee Harvey Oswald by Groden, and you can see the autopsy photo's of 'LHO'
> and all the surrounding event pictures to show that the one killed and
> buried by Ruby and buried at Rosehill is NOT the LHO born in New Orleans.
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Did you even read LHO's exhumation examination?
> CJ
Anthony Marsh
What are you talking about? I am saying that someone SHOULD have taken
his fingerprints and compared them to Oswald's known fingerprints. That
would have cleared it up immediately.