J D Tippit, Maxie Witherspoon and other woman
MystryClassmate
just jump right out at you. The one thing that surprised me right away
about Officer J D Tippit was his full name. Jefferson Davis Tippit. For
those of you who don't know, Jefferson Davis was president of this country
from 1861 to 1864, or I should say, president of half of the US know as
the CSA (Confederate States of America). Abraham Lincoln, of course, was
the other President. Jefferson Davis's picture was on most of the
Confederate currency. Need I say, Officer Tippit's father had a tremendous
amount of southern pride but that's not why I started this subject.
There has been a lot of speculation as to why J D Tippit was always
out of his area #78. It's just a guess, but I would think it's because he
was having another affair. This link http://www.jfk-online.com/myers.html
says Tippit was having an affair with a Dobbs House waitress but it
doesn't mention her name or her address but it would explain why Tippit
was in the Dobb's almost every morning and it would be very relevant.
Anybody have any idea where Mrs.Johnnie Maxie Witherspoon was living on
11/22/63? >From the HSCA
VIII. MRS. JOHNNIE MAXIE WITHERSPOON
Committee investigators also interviewed Mrs. Johnnie Maxie
Witherspoon.(23) Mrs. Witherspoon stated that she became acquainted with
Officer Tippit during his employment at Austin's Barbecue.(24) Mrs.
Witherspoon informed the committee that she and Tippet engaged in a
relationship and started dating for a couple of years.(25) She said that
the relationship ended in the summer of 1963 when her husband returned
home.(26) She also indicated that Bill Anglin was an associate of J.D.
Tippit's.(27)
IX. MARY ADA DOWLING
One other person who was interviewed about Tippit was Mary Ada Dowling,
a waitress for the Dobbs House Restaurant on North Beckley Street. She
indicated to the FBI that Tippit had a habit of coming into the Dobbs
House each morning.(28) She also indicated that on one occasion when
Tippit was in the restaurant, Lee Harvey Oswald came in to be served.(29)
She did not know if they knew each other.(30) Tippit area 78->
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/tippit1.gif
Bill
Ecagetx
JD Tippit's father is still alive in Texas.
He's age 101..
Ed
Subject: J D Tippit, Maxie Witherspoon and other woman
From: mystryc...@aol.com (MystryClassmate)
Date: 12/21/2003 6:27 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: <20031221170924...@mb-m17.aol.com>
MystryClassmate
>JD Tippit's father is still alive in Texas.
>He's age 101..
>
Interesting Ed. I got an E mail from someone that said
There is no evidence J D's full name was "Jefferson Davis" Just the typical
southern style of using two letters.
They might be right but it would be hard to believe that someone would name
their kid J D and that's it.
Bill
John Carbo
>There is no evidence J D's full name was "Jefferson Davis" Just the typical
>southern style of using two letters.
>
So if there's no evidence that Tippit's name was "Jefferson Davis" we'll
just call him that anyway? Why not call him "Joseph Dawson Tippit"? or
"John David Tippit"?
Of course, none of those names would connote a (non-existent) right-wing
conspiracy, would they?
>They might be right but it would be hard to believe that someone would name
>their kid J D and that's it.
Then you ain't from these parts (the South). It happens all the time.
Another partial example: Harry S. Truman. The "S" stood for nothing but
itself.
John Hill
news:20031221170924...@mb-m17.aol.com...
> As I continue to do my cold case research there are some things that
> just jump right out at you. The one thing that surprised me right away
> about Officer J D Tippit was his full name. Jefferson Davis Tippit. For
> those of you who don't know, Jefferson Davis was president of this country
> from 1861 to 1864, or I should say, president of half of the US know as
> the CSA (Confederate States of America). Abraham Lincoln, of course, was
> the other President. Jefferson Davis's picture was on most of the
> Confederate currency. Need I say, Officer Tippit's father had a tremendous
> amount of southern pride but that's not why I started this subject.
Then why bring it up? That Tippit's parents chose to name him after Davis
is utterly beside the point and is NO automatic reflection on Officer
Tippit's person.
Jefferson Davis was NEVER President of "this" country. THIS country is the
U.S.A. Davis was never President of the U.S.A. Davis was the President of
a breakaway confederacy of men determined to continue slavery. And before
anyone starts hollering that it was really about state's rights, be aware
that the state's right being fought over was the right to own and keep
slaves.
Lincoln was NOT the President of the other "half." Lincoln was elected
President of the United States BEFORE any state left the union. Lincoln
was the ONLY President of THIS country. There is nothing wrong with
southern pride, unless it's pride in slavery and those who promoted it,
practiced it and nearly destroyed our nation for it.
> There has been a lot of speculation as to why J D Tippit was always
> out of his area #78. It's just a guess, but I would think it's because he
> was having another affair.
Affair or not, Tippit was ORDERED to patrol that area shortly after the
assassination.
> This link http://www.jfk-online.com/myers.html
> says Tippit was having an affair with a Dobbs House waitress but it
> doesn't mention her name or her address but it would explain why Tippit
> was in the Dobb's almost every morning and it would be very relevant.
> Anybody have any idea where Mrs.Johnnie Maxie Witherspoon was living on
> 11/22/63? >From the HSCA
> VIII. MRS. JOHNNIE MAXIE WITHERSPOON
> Committee investigators also interviewed Mrs. Johnnie Maxie
> Witherspoon.(23) Mrs. Witherspoon stated that she became acquainted with
> Officer Tippit during his employment at Austin's Barbecue.(24) Mrs.
> Witherspoon informed the committee that she and Tippet engaged in a
> relationship and started dating for a couple of years.(25) She said that
> the relationship ended in the summer of 1963 when her husband returned
> home.(26) She also indicated that Bill Anglin was an associate of J.D.
> Tippit's.(27)
>
> IX. MARY ADA DOWLING
> One other person who was interviewed about Tippit was Mary Ada Dowling,
> a waitress for the Dobbs House Restaurant on North Beckley Street. She
> indicated to the FBI that Tippit had a habit of coming into the Dobbs
> House each morning.(28) She also indicated that on one occasion when
> Tippit was in the restaurant, Lee Harvey Oswald came in to be served.(29)
Interesting, but inconsequental. Tippit ate there often. Oswald lived only
one block away.
> She did not know if they knew each other.(30)
I doubt they ever knew each other at all.
--
John Hill (joisa)
John Hill
> >Mystry, here's tid-bit you may be interested in:
> >JD Tippit's father is still alive in Texas.
> >He's age 101..
> >
>
> Interesting Ed. I got an E mail from someone that said
> There is no evidence J D's full name was "Jefferson Davis" Just the typical
> southern style of using two letters.
It stood for "Jefferson Davis."
--
John Hill (joisa)
John McAdams
Martha
D. Tippit" - schools attended listed him as J.D. Ditto marriage license,
bank accounts, various employers, application for credit, DPD records -
plus his tombstone is "J D Tippit" - if it walks like a duck :) (26 H
483-498) Also see WITHOUT MALICE, page 588, endnote #20) Tippit's brother
said it was an "initial name" that Jefferson Davis was incorrect.
Martha
"John Hill" <jo...@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:3fe9...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
Well, maybe. Sgt. Owens, Tippit's supervisor, could not explain how or
when JD was ordered to move from his assigned area (78 - which he
patrolled alone) - gave the reason he (Owens) was at lunch when the
assignment was changed. (26 H 486). (Assignment changed at 12:54 by one
set of radio tapes - Channel 2) However, in his WC testimony - Owens
recalls it differently. Owens- claims he was in his squad car returning
from lunch - was listening to Channel 1 when call came in but it was not
working properly as somebody had left a mike open so he changed to Channel
2. Owens went to the sub-station and then left to report downtown as the
units were ordered to do.
Is asked to explain why Tippit is in District 109 (Lancaster and Ewing) at
one point, and later in District 91 following the assassination? Gave a
pretty good explanation, of sorts - I think.
If you really want to see some truly complex records you need to check out
Sawyer Exhibits; FIRST DAY EVIDENCE, pages 372-410 (Rusty Livingston's
transcription); and timetable of events in WITH MALICE, 379-388. Also
beginning with page 40 (WITH MALICE) to page 46.
Happy hunting.
MystryClassmate
>Jefferson Davis was NEVER President of "this" country.
>Davis was the President of
>a breakaway confederacy of men
According to you, the USA is still part of England if you can't break
away. It really come down to weather you believe the succession was
legal. The South had their own constitution, White House (now the museum
of the confederacy in Richmond VA) their own army, navy, submarines
currency, 600,000 died in a war. How can you say the CSA wasn't it's own
country for 4 years?
One other interesting thing about Jefferson Davis the President. If
you think Saddam's capture was humiliating Jefferson Davis's capture after
the civil war was worse. He was caught disguised as a woman. Well,
actually, he was weaning his wife overcoat to hide but the northern
newspapers blew it out of proportion and said he was in a dress, which was
not true. There were a lot of political cartoons about this at the time.
Bill
Dukester
"MystryClassmate" <mystryc...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20031221170924...@mb-m17.aol.com...
TEmptyPockets
> those of you who don't know, Jefferson Davis was president of this =
>country
> from 1861 to 1864,
You had it correct and should have left it as such.
We were allowing ole "Abe" to stay in the White House until such time as Mrs.
Lincoln completed the remodeling/renovation.>
Cousin, Varina (Howell) Davis refused to move in until the place was cleaned
up some.
Officer Tippit's father had a =
>tremendous
> amount of southern pride but that's not why I started this subject.
To date, I have failed to find the connection as relates to why Jefferson Davis
(JD) Tippit's parents named him this. There appears to be no other "good
southern name" connection within his family as there was within the Oswald
group.
It is assumed that you are also aware of the fact that the Jefferson Davis
home in Biloxi, MS is named Beauvoir. as in Jaqueline Beauvoir Kennedy.
Thomas Harvey Purvis
Martin Shackelford
Martin
Dukester
"TEmptyPockets" <tempty...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040107132558...@mb-m29.aol.com...
TEmptyPockets
Not according to all historical records as well as his family geneology.
He also had several siblings, each of which possessed full first, middle,
and last names.
His entire family tree/line is on the internet if one cares to find
it.>"Beauvoir" is spelled differently than "Bouvier," Jackie's maiden name.
Correct on the spelling of Bouvier/Beauvoir.
Did I get you attention on it?
>Both of their assassins had middle names ... but we don't know what one
>of them was! ;^)
Correct, but were I to have to bet on it, then I would want "Harvey" on
the ticket stub.
Tom P