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Why did the Cab drop off Oz a block past his rooming house?

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eca...@comcast.net

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Jan 18, 2007, 9:59:30 PM1/18/07
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See tomnln's map:
http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

Why did Oswald have the
taxi driver drop him off a block
past his rooming house?

Was this a sign of guilt?
Remember, he hadn't even
killed Tippit yet..

I have individually walked all
the suspected routes and even
tried a few of my own. tomnln's
specualtion of time is of course
*incorrect* but the point is WHY
HAVE THE CAB DROP YOU OFF SO
FAR PAST YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU
ARE IN A HURRY?

Ed Cage 1640Jan1807


tomnln wrote:
>
> No wonder you CAN'T defend the WCR Lies;
> You don't know what the official records show.
>
> Here it is AGAIN;
> Ask someone to read it to you.
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> Markhan said Tippit was shot at 1:06-07
> T F Bowley said Tippit was Already dead at1:10.
>
> Your LyingFelon friends LIED.
> You Felon Supporter LIED.
>
> Read Both reports HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydso...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1166326383.1...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > tomnln wrote:
> >> Well Felon Supporter;
> >>
> >> Tell us HOW Oswald got from the bus stop in front of his rooming house to
> >> the scene of the
> >> Tippit killing in 2-3 minutes.
> >>
> >> Are you suggesting he's was FASTER than Roger Bannister?
> >
> >
> > Tippit was shot about fifteen minutes after Oswald left his rooming
> > house, not 2-3 minutes.
> >
> > Obviously, you have never read the Official Records and have no respect
> > at all for Evidence/Testimony.
> >


Grizzlie Antagonist

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Jan 18, 2007, 11:22:15 PM1/18/07
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eca...@comcast.net wrote:
> See tomnln's map:
> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> Why did Oswald have the
> taxi driver drop him off a block
> past his rooming house?
>
> Was this a sign of guilt?
> Remember, he hadn't even
> killed Tippit yet..
>
> I have individually walked all
> the suspected routes and even
> tried a few of my own. tomnln's
> specualtion of time is of course
> *incorrect* but the point is WHY
> HAVE THE CAB DROP YOU OFF SO
> FAR PAST YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU
> ARE IN A HURRY?
>
> Ed Cage 1640Jan1807

Excellent! And for that matter, WHY was he in such a hurry? And why
run into a movie theatre in the middle of a picture without paying?

Someone argued a couple of weeks ago that Oswald had never made any
statements incriminating himself. But one's actions can betray
consciousness of guilt as loudly as words do.


tomnln

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Jan 19, 2007, 1:38:38 AM1/19/07
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tomnln made NO "speculation".

I posted official records.

Which of these official records do you believe is false?

You speculate when you state "he was in a hurry".


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tomnln

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Jan 19, 2007, 1:50:49 AM1/19/07
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I notice you forgot to address the "TIMING" in those official records.

Tell us if YOU walked a two or, three minute mile?

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Anthony Marsh

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:00:47 AM1/19/07
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eca...@comcast.net wrote:
> See tomnln's map:
> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> Why did Oswald have the
> taxi driver drop him off a block
> past his rooming house?
>
> Was this a sign of guilt?
> Remember, he hadn't even
> killed Tippit yet..
>

No, it's a sign of paranoia. Oswald thought that law enforcement was
following him around and out to get him.

> I have individually walked all
> the suspected routes and even
> tried a few of my own. tomnln's
> specualtion of time is of course
> *incorrect* but the point is WHY
> HAVE THE CAB DROP YOU OFF SO
> FAR PAST YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU
> ARE IN A HURRY?
>

Counter surveillance technique.

dcwi...@netscape.net

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:01:57 AM1/19/07
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eca...@comcast.net wrote:
> See tomnln's map:
> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> Why did Oswald have the
> taxi driver drop him off a block
> past his rooming house?
>
> Was this a sign of guilt?
> Remember, he hadn't even
> killed Tippit yet..
>
> I have individually walked all
> the suspected routes and even
> tried a few of my own. tomnln's
> specualtion of time is of course
> *incorrect* but the point is WHY
> HAVE THE CAB DROP YOU OFF SO
> FAR PAST YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU
> ARE IN A HURRY?
>
> Ed Cage 1640Jan1807
>

Where does it say he was in a hurry? If he was, why did he (as I recall)
apparently walk one way, & catch a (slow) bus, then, the other way? And
the original question should be, I think, Why did O have the cab drop him
off some blocks from the *theatre*, towards which I believe he headed,
directly?

dw

Grizzlie Antagonist

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:04:51 AM1/19/07
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tomnln wrote:
> I notice you forgot to address the "TIMING" in those official records.


The timing issue has been dealt with before, and you've just chosen to
ignore it. Oswald had plenty of time to get from his rooming house to the
area where he would eventually gun down Officer Tippit. You've just
closed your eyes and chosen to create an issue where none exists. There is
no point in addressing that issue in your presence any further.


tomnln

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Jan 19, 2007, 10:39:24 AM1/19/07
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WHY did you Ignore the time element of the official records Ed?

Roger Bannister set the 4 minute mile Running.

Do you believe Oswald did a 2 or 3 minmute mile by Walking?

Did You do a 2 or 3 minute mile Walking?

http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm


Earlene Roberts saw Oswald at the bus stop at 1:04


Markhan said Tippit was shot at 1:06-07
T F Bowley said Tippit was Already dead at1:10.

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David Von Pein

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Jan 19, 2007, 10:41:22 AM1/19/07
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Lee H. Oswald (a person who knew he'd be tracked down for that little
murder he had just committed on Elm Street) obviously wanted to see if
any cops were located around his Beckley residence...which is why he
asked Whaley to take him to the "500 block of N. Beckley".

Oswald then tells Whaley to stop not at the "500" block, but, instead,
he stops at the 700 block (at Neely & Beckley)...which isn't "one
block" past his roominghouse, it's three blocks past it.

It's my opinion that Oswald also didn't want cab driver Whaley to know
exactly where he lived.

Is the fact Oswald got out three blocks beyond his real destination
supposed to indicate "conspiracy" in some way to selected CTers?

If so...how so?


tomnln

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Jan 19, 2007, 10:46:24 AM1/19/07
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NONE of you have EVER addressed these official Reports.

Earlene Roberts saw Oswald at the bus stop at 1:04

Markhan said Tippit was shot at 1:06-07
T F Bowley said Tippit was Already dead at1:10.

Show me Anyone who has ever ran a 2 or 3 minute mile.


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Anthony Marsh

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Jan 19, 2007, 10:48:24 AM1/19/07
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Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
> eca...@comcast.net wrote:
>> See tomnln's map:
>> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>>
>> Why did Oswald have the
>> taxi driver drop him off a block
>> past his rooming house?
>>
>> Was this a sign of guilt?
>> Remember, he hadn't even
>> killed Tippit yet..
>>
>> I have individually walked all
>> the suspected routes and even
>> tried a few of my own. tomnln's
>> specualtion of time is of course
>> *incorrect* but the point is WHY
>> HAVE THE CAB DROP YOU OFF SO
>> FAR PAST YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU
>> ARE IN A HURRY?
>>
>> Ed Cage 1640Jan1807
>
>
>
> Excellent! And for that matter, WHY was he in such a hurry? And why
> run into a movie theatre in the middle of a picture without paying?
>

Because he had just killed officer Tippit.

tomnln

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Jan 19, 2007, 10:48:42 AM1/19/07
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"Contradiction in Terms"

He had the cab drop him off a distance from his rooming house proves he was
NOT in a hurry.

http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm


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Texextra

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Jan 19, 2007, 9:08:34 PM1/19/07
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David Von Pein wrote:
> Lee H. Oswald (a person who knew he'd be tracked down for that little
> murder he had just committed on Elm Street) obviously wanted to see if
> any cops were located around his Beckley residence...which is why he
> asked Whaley to take him to the "500 block of N. Beckley".
>
> Oswald then tells Whaley to stop not at the "500" block, but, instead,
> he stops at the 700 block (at Neely & Beckley)...which isn't "one
> block" past his roominghouse, it's three blocks past it.
>
> It's my opinion that Oswald also didn't want cab driver Whaley to know
> exactly where he lived.

Really? Hadn't LHO already given Whaley the approximate address (per your
own comments above)? Would Whaley had to have been a world class genius to
figure out that the original destination might have been LHO's residence?

David Von Pein

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Jan 20, 2007, 1:14:45 AM1/20/07
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>>> "Hadn't LHO already given Whaley the approximate address (per your own
comments above)? Would Whaley had to have been a world class genius to
figure out that the original destination might have been LHO's residence?"
<<<

~~chuckle~~

For Pete sake! How could Whaley have possibly known which exact HOUSE
Oswald was walking toward when he (Whaley) dropped LHO off THREE blocks
away from 1026 Beckley?? Was Whaley carrying a crystal ball in his cab?

Whaley didn't KNOW what "LHO's residence" was. And unless Whaley tailed
LHO all the way to 1026 Beckley (which, of course, he didn't and had no
reason to), he never would have known for certain what LHO's residence
was. (Until well after LHO was caught and arrested, that is.)

Get a grip.

Anthony Marsh

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Jan 20, 2007, 1:16:42 AM1/20/07
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tomnln wrote:
> "Contradiction in Terms"
>
> He had the cab drop him off a distance from his rooming house proves he was
> NOT in a hurry.
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
>


I never said anything about being in a hurry. Giving up the cab to some
little old lady proves that he was not in a hurry.

Anthony Marsh

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Jan 20, 2007, 1:17:31 AM1/20/07
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tomnln wrote:
> WHY did you Ignore the time element of the official records Ed?
>
> Roger Bannister set the 4 minute mile Running.
>
> Do you believe Oswald did a 2 or 3 minmute mile by Walking?
>
> Did You do a 2 or 3 minute mile Walking?
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
>
> Earlene Roberts saw Oswald at the bus stop at 1:04
> Markhan said Tippit was shot at 1:06-07
> T F Bowley said Tippit was Already dead at1:10.
>
>

Do not rely on eyewitness statements to establish facts. It is the most
unreliable form of evidence.

johncw...@aol.com

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tomnln wrote:
> "Contradiction in Terms"
>
> He had the cab drop him off a distance from his rooming house proves he was
> NOT in a hurry.
>
Mind if I chip in here ?

FWIW I think Anthony is spot on when he says that LHO getting the cab
to drop him off at the wrong block looks like a counter-surveillance
technique.

Same can be said for his slow "getaway" i.e. a walking man attracts
less attention than a running one.

I don't think it proves he was NOT in a hurry, I think it suggests he
did not want to APPEAR to be in a hurry.

It also strongly suggests (if not proves) that he was aware of
counter-surveillance techniques. Where did he learn these ?

Does his slow "getaway" prove either way he shot JFK ? No.

John.

tomnln

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Jan 20, 2007, 1:47:11 PM1/20/07
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Ed Cage said it further down in this post.

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eca...@comcast.net

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Jan 20, 2007, 1:47:55 PM1/20/07
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tomnln:
I thought I explained this to you
before. Since I live (Big advantage
for MR ;~D) here I have walked
all of the assumed routes from
the boarding house to Patton @
10th. None of them can be done in
the 2,3 minutes you mistakenly
use as a premise. I also invented
a couple new ones of my own.

Earth to Rossley:
You are *mistaken*
about the 2,3 minute
timing and I have no
idea why you latched
on to that zAnY number.

Ed Cage 0746Jan2007

eca...@comcast.net

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Jan 20, 2007, 1:50:26 PM1/20/07
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A+ David.
My thoughts *exactly*

That's all it realistically
could be in my view.

Ed

tomnln

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Jan 20, 2007, 9:17:36 PM1/20/07
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Does that include Brennan?
Does that include Johnny Brewer?
Does that include Pricilla Johnson McMillan?
Does that include the Davis Girls?


WHY do they still Swear in witnesses in Court Room Trials?

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eca...@comcast.net

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Jan 20, 2007, 9:38:07 PM1/20/07
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A "Counter surveillance technique"
(?!?!) Marsh I never know what you are
going to say next. Oswald went by his
boarding house by a couple blocks to
see if the authorities were already
there.

Have you officially abandoned this
ultra lame "explanation" (Har-har) of
where and how the neck exit round went?
http://home.comcast.net/~the-puzzle-palace/limo2006.gif

That turkey above is YOUR diagram Tony.

BTW, any luck finding any "aliases"
I've ever used? You claimed "50" but
to date you have produced none.

Ed Cage 1319Jan2007

tomnln

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Jan 20, 2007, 9:38:48 PM1/20/07
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GLAD to see that you Disagree with Official Records Ed.

They are HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

Please tell us Exactly which ones you don't accept?

Maybe then you'lladdress the Lies ofofficer Baker?

Found HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/officer_m.htm

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tomnln

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Jan 20, 2007, 9:39:06 PM1/20/07
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The 2-3 minutes are NOT mine Ed;

They are Official Records.

Are you claiming that the Warren Commission LIED?

http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

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Anthony Marsh

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johncw...@aol.com wrote:
> tomnln wrote:
>> "Contradiction in Terms"
>>
>> He had the cab drop him off a distance from his rooming house proves he was
>> NOT in a hurry.
>>
> Mind if I chip in here ?
>
> FWIW I think Anthony is spot on when he says that LHO getting the cab
> to drop him off at the wrong block looks like a counter-surveillance
> technique.
>
> Same can be said for his slow "getaway" i.e. a walking man attracts
> less attention than a running one.
>
> I don't think it proves he was NOT in a hurry, I think it suggests he
> did not want to APPEAR to be in a hurry.
>
> It also strongly suggests (if not proves) that he was aware of
> counter-surveillance techniques. Where did he learn these ?
>

Oswald was a spy wannabe. He might have learned them from the ONI, not
the CIA. I learned them from my father, who was an NSA officer.

tomnln

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Jan 21, 2007, 4:08:25 PM1/21/07
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Did you do a 2 or 3 minute mile walking like Oswald did ed?

http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

It even took Roger Bannister a world's record when he RAN a 4 minute mile.

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Anthony Marsh

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eca...@comcast.net wrote:
> A "Counter surveillance technique"
> (?!?!) Marsh I never know what you are
> going to say next. Oswald went by his
> boarding house by a couple blocks to
> see if the authorities were already
> there.
>

That is what is known as a counter surveillance technique. To see if
someone has you staked out.

> Have you officially abandoned this
> ultra lame "explanation" (Har-har) of
> where and how the neck exit round went?
> http://home.comcast.net/~the-puzzle-palace/limo2006.gif
>
> That turkey above is YOUR diagram Tony.
>
> BTW, any luck finding any "aliases"
> I've ever used? You claimed "50" but
> to date you have produced none.
>

I never claimed that you used 50 aliases. I suggested that you should.

Texextra

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Jan 21, 2007, 10:51:11 PM1/21/07
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Well, the one redeeming aspect to your argument is that there was
obviously no Columbo on the case. Still, if subterfuge was the objective,
wouldn't it make more sense to go 2 blocks down and 1 block over than to
go 3 blocks down? Then, he'd have been on a different street.


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