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OHLeeRedux
Sep 20, 2013, 11:20:29 PM9/20/13
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So a guy picks up some curtains rods from the house where his wife and
kids are living and takes them to work because he wants to take them to
the boarding house where he's staying.
Why does he go to the trouble of taking wrapping paper and tape from work
and wrapping up the rods? Why not just grab the damn curtain rods and
carry them like they are?
Just asking.
kids are living and takes them to work because he wants to take them to
the boarding house where he's staying.
Why does he go to the trouble of taking wrapping paper and tape from work
and wrapping up the rods? Why not just grab the damn curtain rods and
carry them like they are?
Just asking.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 21, 2013, 12:52:21 AM9/21/13
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rods for customers when he worked in a Five and Dime. Why do groceries
put your food in a bag? Ever been out in the read world?
OHLeeRedux
Sep 21, 2013, 10:33:43 AM9/21/13
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How in the world would curtain rods get damaged being transported in the
back seat of a car?
Oswald didn't work at a five and dime, Anthony. He wasn't handling
merchandise for a customer or giving someone an early Christmas gift.
It defies imagination that anyone would believe Lee's cock and bull story
about curtain rods.
back seat of a car?
Oswald didn't work at a five and dime, Anthony. He wasn't handling
merchandise for a customer or giving someone an early Christmas gift.
It defies imagination that anyone would believe Lee's cock and bull story
about curtain rods.
Ott Rovgeisha
Sep 21, 2013, 12:21:51 PM9/21/13
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and here we have this delicious sentence:
"Ever been out in the read world?"
Equally sad is the habit of insulting other posters.. Very "mature"...
Steve Barber
Sep 21, 2013, 3:04:26 PM9/21/13
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few "curtain rods" while transporting them from a few miles to a new
destination? He sure went to a lot of trouble to transport "curtain rods"!
Get real, yourself!
John Fiorentino
Sep 21, 2013, 3:04:47 PM9/21/13
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"OHLeeRedux" <tse3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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them. Anthony is right on this issue.
And although I think the bag had the rifle in it. The fact that Oswald's
room already had curtain rods is also meaningless. Maybe he just wanted to
change them.
John F.
BT George
Sep 21, 2013, 4:11:21 PM9/21/13
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BT George
OHLeeRedux
Sep 21, 2013, 7:54:19 PM9/21/13
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John, I am glad to hear that you believe that OH Lee was toting his rifle
in that package. That shows that you are sane, at least.
But wanting to change his curtain rods???
A man living alone in a rented room wants to change the curtain rods?
Changing the curtains I can understand. Maybe something in a dull Soviet
green to go along with his Karl Marx portrait.
But what possible difference could it have made to Lee what rods were
holding up the curtains?
in that package. That shows that you are sane, at least.
But wanting to change his curtain rods???
A man living alone in a rented room wants to change the curtain rods?
Changing the curtains I can understand. Maybe something in a dull Soviet
green to go along with his Karl Marx portrait.
But what possible difference could it have made to Lee what rods were
holding up the curtains?
John Fiorentino
Sep 21, 2013, 7:56:04 PM9/21/13
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"BT George" <brockg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As I stated, I think the rifle was in the bag.
My point being that speculating as to why Oswald might have put curtain
rods in a bag, or anything else relating to it is simply meaningless. As
is the fact that his room already had curtain rods.
That's all
John F.
Lanny
Sep 21, 2013, 7:56:42 PM9/21/13
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On Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:04:26 PM UTC-4, Steve Barber wrote:
>
> And speaking of "the real world"...Just how much "damage" can be done to a
>
> few "curtain rods" while transporting them from a few miles to a new
>
> destination? He sure went to a lot of trouble to transport "curtain rods"!
>
> Get real, yourself!
So had YOU been driving Oswald to work that day, your immediate reaction
>
> And speaking of "the real world"...Just how much "damage" can be done to a
>
> few "curtain rods" while transporting them from a few miles to a new
>
> destination? He sure went to a lot of trouble to transport "curtain rods"!
>
> Get real, yourself!
to the curtain rods story would have been, "Bullshit! That's a rifle and
you're going to try to blow the President's ass off!! You think I was
born yesterday?"
Man, you're good.
tims...@gmail.com
Sep 21, 2013, 8:13:42 PM9/21/13
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to hide.
Like his rifle.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
*...NOT ONE of the three experts was able to strike the head or the
neck of the target EVEN ONCE.* (Emphasis added).
Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, page 129, footnoted as: XVII 261-262.
And yet here IS WC XVII 261-262, showing hits to the head...
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0144a.htm
X marks the spot where Mark Lane lied!
Anthony Marsh
Sep 21, 2013, 8:31:37 PM9/21/13
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On 9/21/2013 10:33 AM, OHLeeRedux wrote:
> How in the world would curtain rods get damaged being transported in the
> back seat of a car?
>
While being carried. Dropped.
> How in the world would curtain rods get damaged being transported in the
> back seat of a car?
>
> Oswald didn't work at a five and dime, Anthony. He wasn't handling
> merchandise for a customer or giving someone an early Christmas gift.
>
> It defies imagination that anyone would believe Lee's cock and bull story
> about curtain rods.
>
story that someone would use a paper bag to sneak the rifle into the
TSBD when it was made a few inches shorter than the rifle.
Steve Barber
Sep 21, 2013, 8:42:30 PM9/21/13
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is going to go through all the trouble of wrapping curtain rods up like
that package was wrapped? I don't believe it, not even for a second.
Furthermore, Gladys Johnson stated that the rules of the rooming house
included no adding to the decor of the rooms and so forth, by the tenants.
Why would a man want to change curtain rods, anyway? The room he rented
had venetian blinds, plus curtains.
David Von Pein
Sep 21, 2013, 10:50:25 PM9/21/13
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And it's especially ridiculous to think Oswald wanted to change the
curtain rods in a room that he quite obviously was going to be vacating
within the next few weeks anyway.
At the very latest, Marina & Lee were going to get back together after the
holidays in 1963. Marina testified as much.
But maybe some conspiracy theorists think that Marina and Lee and Junie
and Rachel were all going to live in LHO's large closet on Beckley after
reuniting following the holidays. Therefore, Lee wanted to spruce up his
crackerbox for when the four of them would be sharing the luxurious living
quarters at the roominghouse.
curtain rods in a room that he quite obviously was going to be vacating
within the next few weeks anyway.
At the very latest, Marina & Lee were going to get back together after the
holidays in 1963. Marina testified as much.
But maybe some conspiracy theorists think that Marina and Lee and Junie
and Rachel were all going to live in LHO's large closet on Beckley after
reuniting following the holidays. Therefore, Lee wanted to spruce up his
crackerbox for when the four of them would be sharing the luxurious living
quarters at the roominghouse.
BT George
Sep 21, 2013, 10:51:04 PM9/21/13
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about "why" he would want to do something like that pale in comparison to
the mere fact that no curtain rods were ever found anywhere, thus making
the story far more than "suspect" on logical grounds. ...but they did
find a certain rifle traceable to his fingerprints. & documents of
ownership.
BT
claviger
Sep 22, 2013, 8:26:40 PM9/22/13
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that didn't even have air conditioning, he was practicing for a career
change as an interior decorator. The curtain rods weren't for his
boardinghouse room, it already had curtains. They were for the 6th floor
window. After seeing how nice it looked he was hoping to get a big
contract to do all the windows in the TSBD. He custom made the paper bag
so he could keep this project a secret until making a formal presentation.
As a matter of fact he did bring his rifle to work that morning, but sold
it to some guy in the parking lot. Oddly enough the guy was his same
height wearing clothes just like him.
At the time of the motorcade LHO was in the lunchroom making notes on how
to brighten up that dull and boring room so more employees would start
using it. After hearing loud noises from somewhere inside the building he
saw the same guy running down the stairs, who yelled, "Your rifle shoots
high and to the right!" Embarrassed LHO yelled back, "Oh yeah, I forgot to
mention that, but the scope is adjustable. What the hell were you shooting
at anyway?" The guy said "Politicians" and disappeared down the stairs.
Obviously the guy was joking so LHO chuckled, then bought a coke and went
downstairs to see what all the ruckus was about.
Shame on all of you for doubting the curtain rod story.
John Fiorentino
Sep 22, 2013, 8:38:28 PM9/22/13
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Yes George.......and AGAIN........I'm not disputing that the rifle was in
the bag (IMHO)................But finding the rifle and fingerprints again
don't rule out that there may have been curtain rods in the bag.
Neither does the fact that as you put it: ."....... that no curtain rods
were ever found anywhere."
John F.
the bag (IMHO)................But finding the rifle and fingerprints again
don't rule out that there may have been curtain rods in the bag.
Neither does the fact that as you put it: ."....... that no curtain rods
were ever found anywhere."
John F.
John Fiorentino
Sep 22, 2013, 8:39:21 PM9/22/13
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I wouldn't have the foggiest idea, maybe they were "ugly" or chipped, or
needed repair or painting. Maybe they were yellow and he wanted white.
People do things like that every day..............but most people don't
assassinate a President.
John F.
needed repair or painting. Maybe they were yellow and he wanted white.
People do things like that every day..............but most people don't
assassinate a President.
John F.
John Fiorentino
Sep 22, 2013, 8:39:54 PM9/22/13
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"Steve Barber" <elpdr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm a little surprised..............you're my good friend and you know I
am not a CT, and I've stated that I believe Oz brought the rifle in the
bag to the TSBD.
I'm merely pointing out the fallacy some have that they could read Oz's
mind, or that his story *positively could not be true."
John Fiorentino
Sep 22, 2013, 8:40:34 PM9/22/13
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"David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
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BTW, do you think Marina is a good witness?
Pls. point me to the citation where she makes these assertions.
Because frankly, I believe, if she would have taken Lee back he may well
not have killed Kennedy.
John F.
John Fiorentino
Sep 22, 2013, 8:40:54 PM9/22/13
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<tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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How are you?
I hope all is ok "down under."
John F.
Steve Barber
Sep 22, 2013, 8:41:26 PM9/22/13
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OHLeeRedux
Sep 22, 2013, 8:43:19 PM9/22/13
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Lanny,
If I had been Lee's driver that morning, I probably would have let the
curtain rod tale slide, although I would have wondered a little about the
wrapping.
But as soon as I learned that the president had been shot and the shots
came from the building where Lee and I worked, one of those little light
bulbs would have lit up over my head.
That's what it means to take ALL the evidence into account, to put the
pieces together and form a coherent theory rather than merely focusing on
each tiny detail.
If I had been Lee's driver that morning, I probably would have let the
curtain rod tale slide, although I would have wondered a little about the
wrapping.
But as soon as I learned that the president had been shot and the shots
came from the building where Lee and I worked, one of those little light
bulbs would have lit up over my head.
That's what it means to take ALL the evidence into account, to put the
pieces together and form a coherent theory rather than merely focusing on
each tiny detail.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 22, 2013, 9:09:00 PM9/22/13
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On 9/21/2013 10:50 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> And it's especially ridiculous to think Oswald wanted to change the
> curtain rods in a room that he quite obviously was going to be vacating
> within the next few weeks anyway.
>
You don't know that for a fact.
> And it's especially ridiculous to think Oswald wanted to change the
> curtain rods in a room that he quite obviously was going to be vacating
> within the next few weeks anyway.
>
The fact that you ignore is that the existing curtains and curtain rods
were very flimsy. In fact one curtain rod was broken by a reporter that
weekend. You have no concept of why a roomer in a rooming house would want
to put in heavier curtains and sturdier curtain rods because you've always
lived a privileged life in your mansion, never in the real world in a
rooming house.
> At the very latest, Marina & Lee were going to get back together after the
> holidays in 1963. Marina testified as much.
>
> But maybe some conspiracy theorists think that Marina and Lee and Junie
> and Rachel were all going to live in LHO's large closet on Beckley after
> reuniting following the holidays. Therefore, Lee wanted to spruce up his
> crackerbox for when the four of them would be sharing the luxurious living
> quarters at the roominghouse.
>
OHLeeRedux
Sep 22, 2013, 9:39:54 PM9/22/13
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claviger . .
What can I say?
Brilliant. F***ing brilliant.
What can I say?
Brilliant. F***ing brilliant.
Message has been deleted
Anthony Marsh
Sep 22, 2013, 10:19:20 PM9/22/13
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On 9/21/2013 7:54 PM, OHLeeRedux wrote:
> John, I am glad to hear that you believe that OH Lee was toting his rifle
> in that package. That shows that you are sane, at least.
>
> But wanting to change his curtain rods???
>
> A man living alone in a rented room wants to change the curtain rods?
> Changing the curtains I can understand. Maybe something in a dull Soviet
> green to go along with his Karl Marx portrait.
>
I can see that you've never lived in the real world. Some time when you
> John, I am glad to hear that you believe that OH Lee was toting his rifle
> in that package. That shows that you are sane, at least.
>
> But wanting to change his curtain rods???
>
> A man living alone in a rented room wants to change the curtain rods?
> Changing the curtains I can understand. Maybe something in a dull Soviet
> green to go along with his Karl Marx portrait.
>
change the curtains you have to also change the type of curtain rods.
> But what possible difference could it have made to Lee what rods were
> holding up the curtains?
>
the curtain rods in Oswald's room where so flimsy that a report broke
one just by stepping on the curtain.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 23, 2013, 12:13:11 PM9/23/13
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On 9/21/2013 8:42 PM, Steve Barber wrote:
> On Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:04:47 PM UTC-4, John Fiorentino wrote:
>> "OHLeeRedux" <tse3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:01c7ffbb-a79d-4b6f...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> So a guy picks up some curtains rods from the house where his wife and
>>
>>> kids are living and takes them to work because he wants to take them to
>>
>>> the boarding house where he's staying.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Why does he go to the trouble of taking wrapping paper and tape from work
>>
>>> and wrapping up the rods? Why not just grab the damn curtain rods and
>>
>>> carry them like they are?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Just asking.
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> There's tons of logical fallacies we *could* apply, this is not on of
>>
>> them. Anthony is right on this issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> And although I think the bag had the rifle in it. The fact that Oswald's
>>
>> room already had curtain rods is also meaningless. Maybe he just wanted to
>>
>> change them.
>>
>>
>>
>> John F.
>
> John, do you really believe that? Do you honestly believe that a man
> is going to go through all the trouble of wrapping curtain rods up like
> that package was wrapped? I don't believe it, not even for a second.
You wouldn't know because you have no real life experience.
> On Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:04:47 PM UTC-4, John Fiorentino wrote:
>> "OHLeeRedux" <tse3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:01c7ffbb-a79d-4b6f...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> So a guy picks up some curtains rods from the house where his wife and
>>
>>> kids are living and takes them to work because he wants to take them to
>>
>>> the boarding house where he's staying.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Why does he go to the trouble of taking wrapping paper and tape from work
>>
>>> and wrapping up the rods? Why not just grab the damn curtain rods and
>>
>>> carry them like they are?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Just asking.
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> There's tons of logical fallacies we *could* apply, this is not on of
>>
>> them. Anthony is right on this issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> And although I think the bag had the rifle in it. The fact that Oswald's
>>
>> room already had curtain rods is also meaningless. Maybe he just wanted to
>>
>> change them.
>>
>>
>>
>> John F.
>
> John, do you really believe that? Do you honestly believe that a man
> is going to go through all the trouble of wrapping curtain rods up like
> that package was wrapped? I don't believe it, not even for a second.
> Furthermore, Gladys Johnson stated that the rules of the rooming house
> included no adding to the decor of the rooms and so forth, by the tenants.
lived in a rooming house for several years and had the same rules. The
very first thing I did was go to the shopping center and bought room
darkening shades with rubber backing. But the curtain rods in the room
were the wrong type so I had to by new curtain rods with hooks. There was
a very intense street light right outside the window so it was impossible
to sleep with hr original flimsy curtains. You should really leave your
mansion and get out into the real world some time.
> Why would a man want to change curtain rods, anyway? The room he rented
> had venetian blinds, plus curtains.
>
Steve Barber
Sep 23, 2013, 3:29:56 PM9/23/13
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Gee! I live in a "mansion"? Wow! Thanks for the compliment!
I think that you really need to get a grip.
David Von Pein
Sep 23, 2013, 3:47:46 PM9/23/13
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JOHN FIORENTINO SAID:
Do you think Marina is a good witness?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Yes. And I say that because the most important parts of her testimony
corroborate what OTHER EVIDENCE indicates is true -- e.g., the backyard
photos are genuine, Lee Oswald went to Mexico City, Oswald owned a rifle,
and Oswald took a shot at General Walker.
JOHN FIORENTINO SAID:
Pls. point me to the citation where she makes these assertions.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
It's all in Marina's WC testimony. Surely you're aware of that.
JOHN FIORENTINO SAID:
Because frankly, I believe, if she would have taken Lee back he may well
not have killed Kennedy.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
I agree.
More on that here -- http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/lee-harvey-oswalds-decision-to-shoot-jfk.html
Do you think Marina is a good witness?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Yes. And I say that because the most important parts of her testimony
corroborate what OTHER EVIDENCE indicates is true -- e.g., the backyard
photos are genuine, Lee Oswald went to Mexico City, Oswald owned a rifle,
and Oswald took a shot at General Walker.
JOHN FIORENTINO SAID:
Pls. point me to the citation where she makes these assertions.
It's all in Marina's WC testimony. Surely you're aware of that.
JOHN FIORENTINO SAID:
Because frankly, I believe, if she would have taken Lee back he may well
not have killed Kennedy.
I agree.
More on that here -- http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/lee-harvey-oswalds-decision-to-shoot-jfk.html
OHLeeRedux
Sep 23, 2013, 4:48:20 PM9/23/13
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Okay, Anthony. I see your point.
If I ever find myself living in a rooming house, I will absolutely pay
close attention to the curtain rods.
And if I decide to take a rifle to work with me, for instance if I want to
clean and oil it during my lunch hour, I will wrap it up in a neat package
and write on it CURTAIN RODS. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THAT RIFLE I ORDERED
UNDER A FALSE NAME. Just to avoid any undo controversy.
If I ever find myself living in a rooming house, I will absolutely pay
close attention to the curtain rods.
And if I decide to take a rifle to work with me, for instance if I want to
clean and oil it during my lunch hour, I will wrap it up in a neat package
and write on it CURTAIN RODS. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THAT RIFLE I ORDERED
UNDER A FALSE NAME. Just to avoid any undo controversy.
BT George
Sep 23, 2013, 7:15:03 PM9/23/13
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unsubstantiated claim---and when viewed in context of the overall
evidence---argues in FAVOR of the assertion that it was more likely
something ELSE. Like maybe the rifle that was no longer in Irving, but
WAS found up near a sniper's nest on a floor LHO had been working on the
day JFK was assassinated.
If you are again talking about making an "exculpatory case" for his
innocence, I personally think that's a rather "academic" exercise 50 years
later. At this point I am mainly concered that the historical record be
set straight and that ALL relevant facts that form a mosaic of Oswald's
guilt be presented.
Having said that, I would not even concede that the failure to find any
such curtain rods would prove meaningless to a jury in its deliberations.
I think it absolutely would carry some weight, though only a small part of
the overall picture of his guilt.
BT
Anthony Marsh
Sep 23, 2013, 7:42:20 PM9/23/13
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On 9/22/2013 8:43 PM, OHLeeRedux wrote:
> Lanny,
>
> If I had been Lee's driver that morning, I probably would have let the
> curtain rod tale slide, although I would have wondered a little about the
> wrapping.
>
> But as soon as I learned that the president had been shot and the shots
> came from the building where Lee and I worked, one of those little light
> bulbs would have lit up over my head.
>
Yeah, it did and Frazier knew Oswald was innocent because the bag was
> Lanny,
>
> If I had been Lee's driver that morning, I probably would have let the
> curtain rod tale slide, although I would have wondered a little about the
> wrapping.
>
> But as soon as I learned that the president had been shot and the shots
> came from the building where Lee and I worked, one of those little light
> bulbs would have lit up over my head.
>
too short to hold the rifle.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 23, 2013, 7:44:58 PM9/23/13
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On 9/22/2013 8:40 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
>
> "David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:fee2d47f-bdb8-43ad...@googlegroups.com...
> And it's especially ridiculous to think Oswald wanted to change the
> curtain rods in a room that he quite obviously was going to be vacating
> within the next few weeks anyway.
>
> At the very latest, Marina & Lee were going to get back together after the
> holidays in 1963. Marina testified as much.
>
> But maybe some conspiracy theorists think that Marina and Lee and Junie
> and Rachel were all going to live in LHO's large closet on Beckley after
> reuniting following the holidays. Therefore, Lee wanted to spruce up his
> crackerbox for when the four of them would be sharing the luxurious living
> quarters at the roominghouse.
>
Straw man argument. We know he planned to look for an apartment on
>
> "David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:fee2d47f-bdb8-43ad...@googlegroups.com...
> And it's especially ridiculous to think Oswald wanted to change the
> curtain rods in a room that he quite obviously was going to be vacating
> within the next few weeks anyway.
>
> At the very latest, Marina & Lee were going to get back together after the
> holidays in 1963. Marina testified as much.
>
> But maybe some conspiracy theorists think that Marina and Lee and Junie
> and Rachel were all going to live in LHO's large closet on Beckley after
> reuniting following the holidays. Therefore, Lee wanted to spruce up his
> crackerbox for when the four of them would be sharing the luxurious living
> quarters at the roominghouse.
>
Saturday. That's why he went out to Irving on Thursday.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 23, 2013, 7:45:18 PM9/23/13
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John Fiorentino
Sep 23, 2013, 7:48:52 PM9/23/13
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Dave:
You indicated Marina and Lee were going to get together after the
holidays............Pls point me to her testimony about that.
John F.
You indicated Marina and Lee were going to get together after the
holidays............Pls point me to her testimony about that.
John F.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 23, 2013, 8:33:00 PM9/23/13
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On 9/22/2013 8:39 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
>
>
> "OHLeeRedux" <tse3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cfa6f20c-2b03-4071...@googlegroups.com...
>> John, I am glad to hear that you believe that OH Lee was toting his rifle
>> in that package. That shows that you are sane, at least.
>>
>> But wanting to change his curtain rods???
>>
>> A man living alone in a rented room wants to change the curtain rods?
>> Changing the curtains I can understand. Maybe something in a dull Soviet
>> green to go along with his Karl Marx portrait.
>>
>> But what possible difference could it have made to Lee what rods were
>> holding up the curtains?
>>
>
>
> I wouldn't have the foggiest idea, maybe they were "ugly" or chipped, or
> needed repair or painting. Maybe they were yellow and he wanted white.
>
Wrong type of rods. Go visit a Bed, Bath, and Beyond.
> news:cfa6f20c-2b03-4071...@googlegroups.com...
>> John, I am glad to hear that you believe that OH Lee was toting his rifle
>> in that package. That shows that you are sane, at least.
>>
>> But wanting to change his curtain rods???
>>
>> A man living alone in a rented room wants to change the curtain rods?
>> Changing the curtains I can understand. Maybe something in a dull Soviet
>> green to go along with his Karl Marx portrait.
>>
>> But what possible difference could it have made to Lee what rods were
>> holding up the curtains?
>>
>
>
> I wouldn't have the foggiest idea, maybe they were "ugly" or chipped, or
> needed repair or painting. Maybe they were yellow and he wanted white.
>
David Von Pein
Sep 23, 2013, 8:40:14 PM9/23/13
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JOHN F. SAID:
You indicated Marina and Lee were going to get together after the
holidays............Pls point me to her testimony about that.
DAVID VP SAYS:
You indicated Marina and Lee were going to get together after the
holidays............Pls point me to her testimony about that.
Okay....
MARINA OSWALD -- "I said it would be better if I remained with Ruth until
the holidays, he would come, and we would all meet together. That this was
better because while he was living alone and I stayed with Ruth, we were
spending less money."
Source: 1 H 66 ....
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh1/html/WC_Vol1_0039b.htm
OHLeeRedux
Sep 23, 2013, 10:11:28 PM9/23/13
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Tell me, Anthony, why is it that any argument that you have no answer to
immediately becomes a "straw man argument"?
Why not just say, "I have no answer to that, but I will think about it and
get back to you later"?
You run the risk of becoming known as Straw Man Anthony. Not that I would
ever think of beginning or perpetuating that moniker.
immediately becomes a "straw man argument"?
Why not just say, "I have no answer to that, but I will think about it and
get back to you later"?
You run the risk of becoming known as Straw Man Anthony. Not that I would
ever think of beginning or perpetuating that moniker.
claviger
Sep 24, 2013, 3:18:12 PM9/24/13
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Anthony,
> It defies imagination that anyone would believe the
> WC's cock and bull story that someone would use a
> paper bag to sneak the rifle into the TSBD when it
> was made a few inches shorter than the rifle.
But not a disassembled MC 91/38 Fucile Corto. LHO was smart enough to know
that is the only way he could sneak the weapon into the building and
Fazier was a gullible teenager who would believe him.
> It defies imagination that anyone would believe the
> WC's cock and bull story that someone would use a
> paper bag to sneak the rifle into the TSBD when it
> was made a few inches shorter than the rifle.
But not a disassembled MC 91/38 Fucile Corto. LHO was smart enough to know
that is the only way he could sneak the weapon into the building and
Fazier was a gullible teenager who would believe him.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 24, 2013, 4:36:32 PM9/24/13
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messages you would see that I have answered thousands of silly
questions. But I am not going to take straw man arguments seriously.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 24, 2013, 4:38:56 PM9/24/13
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John Fiorentino
Sep 24, 2013, 4:40:53 PM9/24/13
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Yeah, I need the context of that statement................
The fact is she rejected his overtures on 11/21/63
John F.
The fact is she rejected his overtures on 11/21/63
John F.
John Blubaugh
Sep 24, 2013, 4:43:05 PM9/24/13
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You must not have read the eye witness testimony that makes it clear that
the bag was not long enough to hold the broken down MC. LHO carried it in
his palm and UNDER his arm. He was not seven feet tall so the bag was too
short to carry the MC. I happen to think it was already in the TSBD.
the bag was not long enough to hold the broken down MC. LHO carried it in
his palm and UNDER his arm. He was not seven feet tall so the bag was too
short to carry the MC. I happen to think it was already in the TSBD.
Dave Reitzes
Sep 24, 2013, 4:43:27 PM9/24/13
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It's pretty sad that, even fifty years on, anyone is seriously arguing
about curtain rods.
Dave
about curtain rods.
Dave
John Fiorentino
Sep 24, 2013, 6:15:57 PM9/24/13
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Marina is often difficult to understand...............in any event the way
I read your post was there were definite plans to reunite after the
Holidays.
To me it doesn't read that way. What "holidays" Thanksgiving?
None of the holidays were that far away, so I think if Oz believed Marina,
he would have waited rather than shoot JFK.
John F.
I read your post was there were definite plans to reunite after the
Holidays.
To me it doesn't read that way. What "holidays" Thanksgiving?
None of the holidays were that far away, so I think if Oz believed Marina,
he would have waited rather than shoot JFK.
John F.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 24, 2013, 7:58:08 PM9/24/13
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theirs in to show off.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 24, 2013, 11:05:38 PM9/24/13
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Anthony Marsh
Sep 24, 2013, 11:16:51 PM9/24/13
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How did Castor sneak his rifles into the TSBD two days earlier?
David Von Pein
Sep 24, 2013, 11:45:49 PM9/24/13
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@John F. .....
Oh come now, John. "Holidays" (plural) doesn't mean JUST Thanksgiving, for
Pete sake. She meant after Christmas or New Year's Day. That's why she
said "holidays" (plural). Turkey Day is just ONE holiday.
Oh come now, John. "Holidays" (plural) doesn't mean JUST Thanksgiving, for
Pete sake. She meant after Christmas or New Year's Day. That's why she
said "holidays" (plural). Turkey Day is just ONE holiday.
John Fiorentino
Sep 25, 2013, 4:25:35 PM9/25/13
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Not the point I was trying to convey.
To put it succinctly, I don't believe her testimony.
Point being in just a few weeks (if after New Years Day) they would have
been back together. I think that would have been enough for Lee, seeing as
how it takes some time to get a place to live anyway.
No, I think she thoroughly rebuffed him on the 21st, and may well be why
JFK was murdered.
John F.
To put it succinctly, I don't believe her testimony.
Point being in just a few weeks (if after New Years Day) they would have
been back together. I think that would have been enough for Lee, seeing as
how it takes some time to get a place to live anyway.
No, I think she thoroughly rebuffed him on the 21st, and may well be why
JFK was murdered.
John F.
Anthony Marsh
Sep 25, 2013, 4:26:14 PM9/25/13
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