"How do you come up with the stuff you write about?"
>>------------------------------------------------<<
~~
I thought it was, 'Yeah, so what do you do for work?'
I've only run into three people in my life who were stupid enough to
ask, 'how do you come up....' I think people are starting to
understand what an inane question it is and are subsequently asking it
less.
I've never answered that question.
I refuse.
Fact is, it's no one's business how the muse and I do the dirty work.
Not even mine.
Cheers!
J Rinier
Go look.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The face of a child can say it all,
especially the mouth part of the face.
http://scrawlmark.org
a thousand apologies Dennis.
I'll do penance tomorrow
mdc
I wrote around in me big blue car
I wrote around from the bottom of a jar
I wrote a plane from Billings to Spain
I wrote the rhyme on the end, you see?
(and I once wrote a train to Skrzynecki.)
I wrote to the "God of Gods and King of Kings,"
I wrote my old Ford to Buds Cranks an Things.
I wrote the Dickens out a Dickens disease
I wrote an elevator to the top of the tallest fallacy
I wrote the best of times, of the worst of crimes
I wrote a ship cross the seven seas
I once even wrote a three legged horse
(`'twas a bumpy ride of course.)
fallacious fastidious flagellating flap doodle?
Now my wrotein an writin is done an I sho had a lots O fun
what have i done?
mdc
I belive's it's thanks to some born-with inclined senses leaning towards the land of fantasies.
Also (unrelated) "desire", births all sorts of emotions, i.e. the older you get it becomes more menopausal or hot flashing, and yet, it doesn't have to do anything with the actual physical side of the sex act (:-- inner joke revolving several very old posts down the drain --:).
P.S. This from a casual poeter.
Thourn Whaul
ȼǻ
---
The Go Game
Go figure the sea and soon
you'll be building sand castles
Go draw the three and moon
find the corridor that whistles
Go play till flower is prune
or hair gray stuffs the bristles
..fell free to continue (meter 5,6ish[boxed] tact L1L3~^Go/and$ L5L7~^Go/is$ rhyme ABAB... same)...
Cast a cold eye
On life, on death;
Housman, pass by.
There is a book from a long time ago called "the triggering town"
... I've forgotten who wrote it ... you should read it.
-blue
Ah-ha, that's the book someone was telling me about but could not
remember it's title. Thanks for mentioning it.
I search for it and got this info:
The Triggering Town
by Richard Hugo
pub: W. W. Norton & Co.
ISBN 0-393-30933-9
Amazon.coms price = $9.56
hm . . ."triggering" . . . that's, like, a . . . ~trigger~
\\//_ - cyn
--
nuthin but fingers
> Beau Blue wrote:
>
> > Cynthia A Moyer <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ~~
> > >>>------------------------------------------------<<
> > >
> > >"How do you come up with the stuff you write about?"
> > >
> > >>>------------------------------------------------<<
> > > ~~
> >
> > There is a book from a long time ago called "the triggering town"
> > ... I've forgotten who wrote it ... you should read it.
> >
> >
> > -blue
>
> Ah-ha, that's the book someone was telling me about but could not
> remember it's title. Thanks for mentioning it.
>
> I search for it and got this info:
>
> The Triggering Town
> by Richard Hugo
<euph>fuck me sydewize</euph>, "Richard Hugo".
> pub: W. W. Norton & Co.
> ISBN 0-393-30933-9
> Amazon.coms price = $9.56
hugo . . . billard? . . . heh, ~bingo~
\\//_ - cyn
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<8u1ln7$maq$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>
> The Triggering Town
> by Richard Hugo
> pub: W. W. Norton & Co.
> ISBN 0-393-30933-9
> Amazon.coms price = $9.56
There is information, together with Amazon links, to books such as these
at
http://www.aapcsite.plus.com/research.html#books
Jim
--
AAPC FAQ & Resources
http://www.aapcsite.plus.com/
> There is information, together with Amazon links, to books such as these
> at
<ahem>
There is information about books like these, together with Amazon links,
at...
</ahem>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:09:53 +0100, there was, finally, a moment of
> perfect silence. Then along came Jim Sheard.
>
> > There is information, together with Amazon links, to books such as these
> > at
>
> <ahem>
> There is information about books like these, together with Amazon links,
> at...
> </ahem>
<hey! class="*hee*">
There is information, together with Amazon links, about books such as
these at [...].
</hey!>
Anyone who can fantasize while masturbating has at least ONE thing
they can write about ... conjuring the details of being fucked
"sydewize" is worth recording. I think it would hold my interest, at
least for a few lines. And if the narrator is as clever as Nin or
Miller?
-blue
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:12:53 GMT, there was, finally, a moment of
> perfect silence. Then along came Barbara's Cat.
>
> > The Triggering Town
> > by Richard Hugo
> > pub: W. W. Norton & Co.
> > ISBN 0-393-30933-9
> > Amazon.coms price = $9.56
>
> There is information, together with Amazon links, to books such as these
> at
>
> http://www.aapcsite.plus.com/research.html#books
>
> Jim
Thanks, Jim. I have visited your www.aapcsite.plus.com site several
times. It's a great site with a wealth of good info and links.
<kinkysnip>
Welcome to AAPC. :-)
> Anyone who can fantasize while masturbating has at least ONE thing
> they can write about ...
<sydewizesnip>
>
> -blue
Get a clue :-) . . . quickly:
\\//_ - cyn
>
>Get a clue :-) . . . quickly:
>
>\\//_ - cyn
>
Message received!
Moyer <plonk!>
Hähä!
\^/
©_©
/©\
\_
\\\
\_/
Though y'all <snip>ped it, I reconstruct:
> > > Anyone who can fantasize while masturbating has at least ONE thing
> > > they can write about ...
^[ftr: pissed me off]^
> Cynthia A Moyer <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
{and what rhymes with " -blue"? @%^}
> >Get a clue :-) . . . quickly:
> >
> >\\//_ - cyn
> >
>
> Message received!
>
> Moyer <plonk!>
heh . . . I hope you're not lying. :-)
We'd only piss one another off worse, and I don't really mean to.
\\//_ - cyn
--
stitching in time
Chuckles, are you there?
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #27 (also)
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.
I agree. Everything is grist for a poet's mill.
> Anyone who can fantasize while masturbating has at least ONE thing
> they can write about ... conjuring the details of being fucked
> "sydewize" is worth recording. I think it would hold my interest, at
> least for a few lines. And if the narrator is as clever as Nin or
> Miller?
:-)
Marg
> Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.astraweb.com!news-small.astraweb.com!news.alt.net!usenet
> From: "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments
> Subject: Re: sidebar - Re: "#1 FAQ" (-: writers only :-)
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:14:31 +0200
> Organization: Alcatroll Labs Inc.
> Lines: 42
> Message-ID: <pan.2003.10.24....@hotmail.com>
> References: <7h7epvo2lgv4qgm3g...@4ax.com> <3f980bd3...@cnews.newsguy.com> <mi6gpv4l7ombaj60j...@4ax.com> <3f9824a3...@cnews.newsguy.com> <v4fgpv08jiqcit0l9...@4ax.com> <3f984762...@cnews.newsguy.com> <1cogpv8mftid1qfnq...@4ax.com>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> User-Agent: Pan/0.13.3 (That cat's something I can't explain)
> X-Meow: Approved
> X-Tra: time
> X-Files: Fuck off Kirk
> Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.arts.poetry.comments:337604
^[v.i.]^
Hey, Doc. From y'all, this [v.s.] is morelike vulture shadow-puppets
than menacing trollerie. Thanks for the heads-up.
\\//_ - cyn
--
grateful for this sidebar, too, too
Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:22:39 GMT; alt.arts.poetry.comments
Msg-ID:<3f9824a3...@cnews.newsguy.com>;
jjw...@cruzio.com (Beau Blue) psoted:
> Write about whatever pops into your head.
I checked the headers; we're still in the sidebar, but this reads
like a [top-posted] reply to, ehrm, the question [v.i.] upthread.
> Frost found spiders worth mentioning.
I've posted this link before:
<http://www.bartleby.com/119/17.html>
^[<mdd2ovo3l24gj6jgo...@4ax.com>]^
> 'Noun' plus kinky imagination equals things to write about ....
I'm willing to work harder than either "kinky" or the quasi-ellipses,
but I'm already rather annoyed.
> Anyone who can fantasize while masturbating has at least ONE thing
> they can write about ...
At which point, I knew resistance to be futile.
> conjuring the details of being fucked "sydewize" is worth recording.
heh . . . typing it onc't wuz eenuff fer ~mememe~
> I think it would hold my interest, at least for a few lines.
^[consider the source, consider the source, who is this guy?]^
> And if the narrator is as clever as Nin or Miller?
>
> -blue
>
<<3f980bd3...@cnews.newsguy.com>snipfingers>
^[IMO: we were doomed from [v.s.] the word go.]^
\\//_ - cyn
--
how many fingers am i holding up
>
> Write about whatever pops into your head. Frost found spiders worth
> mentioning. 'Noun' plus kinky imagination equals things to write
> about ....
>
> Anyone who can fantasize while masturbating has at least ONE thing
> they can write about ... conjuring the details of being fucked
> "sydewize" is worth recording. I think it would hold my interest, at
> least for a few lines. And if the narrator is as clever as Nin or
> Miller?
>
> -blue
Tell ya what: I'll be Mansfield. :-)
\\//_ - cyn
--
june . . . jane . . . austen . . . auden, but also park
man [v.s.]
> \\//_ - cyn
> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:02:40 -0700, Cynthia A
> Moyer posted:
>
> > Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:14:31 +0200; alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > Msg-ID:<pan.2003.10.24....@hotmail.com>;
> > "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>
> > psoted:
> >
<PathsnipFuckoffKirk>
> >> Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.arts.poetry.comments:337604
> >
> > ^[v.i.]^
> >
> >> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:24:40 -0700, Cynthia A
> >> Moyer posted:
> >>
> >> > Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:26:59 GMT; alt.arts.poetry.comments
> >> > Msg-ID:<3f984762...@cnews.newsguy.com>;
> >> > jjw...@cruzio.com (Beau Blue) psoted:
> >> >
> >> > Though y'all <snip>ped it, I reconstruct:
> >> >
> >> >> > > Anyone who can fantasize while masturbating has at least ONE
> >> >> > > thing they can write about ...
> >> >
> >> > ^[ftr: pissed me off]^
> >> >
> >> >> Cynthia A Moyer <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > {and what rhymes with " -blue"? @%^}
> >> >
> >> >> >Get a clue :-) . . . quickly:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >\\//_ - cyn
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> Message received!
> >> >>
> >> >> Moyer <plonk!>
> >> >
> >> > heh . . . I hope you're not lying. :-)
*wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
> >> > We'd only piss one another off worse, and I don't really mean to.
> >> >
> >> > \\//_ - cyn
> >>
> >> Chuckles, are you there?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> mhm 27x12
> >> smeeter #27 (also)
> >> CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.
> >
> > Hey, Doc. From y'all, this [v.s.] is morelike vulture shadow-puppets than
> > menacing trollerie. Thanks for the heads-up.
> >
>
> man
joon
> [v.s.]
"PJR :-)" - P.J. Ross
> > \\//_ - cyn [[hangin' 10] - _\\//]
|dude, marc, keep it civil|
plz
\\//_ - cyn
--
<3A90B94E...@home.com>
Oh no! Now "she" is k00king again!
\^/
©_©
/©\
\_
\\\
\_/
I hope for my pal Will Weiss at earthlink.net will appreciate your
stalking efforts as much as I do.
[I only warn once, and even then ...]
Sometimes I read a book.
Sometimes I try to cook.
Sometimes I watch my television
just for a curious look.
Sometimes I lay in bed.
Sometimes I walk instead.
Sometimes I sit in my lazy chair
with my hands behind my head.
Sometimes I do a chore
like shopping at the store.
Sometimes I dawdle around the house
(I have got to fix that door).
Sometimes I drive my car.
Sometimes I go real far.
Sometimes I ride around the corner
to a local redneck bar.
But, like I learned in school,
I follow a golden rule:
Remember to stop, look, and listen.
Yep, that's my best writing tool.
"How do you come up with
the stuff you write about?"
You wanted to know, so there you go.
(I know it's bad. Please, don't shout.)
-- Cat
[ Cm~ ]
I see she's moved on from stalking me to stalking my friends too.
I find it *extremely* creepy that she's still trying to attract my
attention by mentioning my name (see above: "P.J. Ross") in threads
that obviously have nothing to do with me.
Here's a recent discussion of Formosa's Law by David Formosa himself:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8%24---%24%24%24_%25_%25-%25_%25_%24%40news.noc.cabal.int>
I think Formosa's Law applies in this case, and I strongly recommend
the killfile to everybody who might be tempted to reply with flames or
trolls to her posts.
I apologise to AAPC, and especially to Dr F, for the fall-out from
this creepy attempt to annoy and embarrass me.
>
> "Cynthia A Moyer" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:9evipv0opce413ged...@4ax.com...
> > Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:05:00 +0200; alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > Msg-ID:<pan.2003.10.24....@hotmail.com>;
> > "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>
> > psoted:
> >
> > > Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:02:40 -0700, Cynthia A
> > > Moyer posted:
> > >
> > > > Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:14:31 +0200; alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > > > Msg-ID:<pan.2003.10.24....@hotmail.com>;
> > > > "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>
> > > > psoted:
> > > >
> > <PathsnipFuckoffKirk>
> > > >> Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.arts.poetry.comments:337604
> > > >
> > > > ^[v.i.]^
> > > >
> > > >> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:24:40 -0700, Cynthia A
> > > >> Moyer posted:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:26:59 GMT; alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > > >> > Msg-ID:<3f984762...@cnews.newsguy.com>;
<psotedsnipplonk!>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > heh . . . I hope you're not lying. :-)
> >
> > *wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
> >
> you sure take allot of heat
> first the sound thing and now,
> well, cant figure this one out.
> mdc
Michael? this wuzza one-shot pony-trick. :-)
Put a gun to my head, and I'll boldly say,
"I did it for Art." {and politics? @%^}
There may arise as legitimate a discussion
as I can muster on the subject of The Voice
As Music, but Juvenal sigheth still. :-\
\\//_ - cyn
--
(-: tnx :-)
Maybe Halloween has something to do with that.
> Here's a recent discussion of Formosa's Law by David Formosa himself:
> <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8%24---%24%24%24_%25_%25-%25_%25_%24%40news.noc.cabal.int>
>
Yeah, good description of Usenet.
> I think Formosa's Law applies in this case, and I strongly recommend the
> killfile to everybody who might be tempted to reply with flames or trolls
> to her posts.
>
Well, I never use killfiles, since I still decide what I read and what I
don't read. This does not mean I read everything.
> I apologise to AAPC, and especially to Dr F, for the fall-out from this
> creepy attempt to annoy and embarrass me.
No, on the contrary, it was good to be warned from this clearly disturbed
person.
Ey mad cow, is it true that you are smoking, instead of eating,
all that grass out there?
I surely know how love smells, when I read about it! Mr. Ross and
Ms. Moyer are in love with each other!
Well I won't shout, since this is one of the best poems posted
here (by others than me, of course) recently, Cat. Both the meter
and the rhyme feel natural and it is streaming like good media
from a site without ads.
Is it a joker's truth or a liar's scam
coming from the mouth of 'Sam I am'?
Knowledge begs no communion to begin
(besides that, I was talking to Ms. Cyn).
A stick, a poke, a bear, a Sam. I scram.
-- Cm~
~
jn
There one was a time when aapc and rap were separate groups with separate
identities/thrusts/agendas, then such as chuckles and Will/Tommy/Sam came
along and breached that. It seems that those who continue to crosspost are
a) unaware that they are doing so or b) don't care.
If the participants of the two groups wish to be separate entities again
(and I believe that to be a good thing), then those who care about this
should be careful that they respond to only one group at a time.
Marg
It can't be Barb, nor can it be her cat,
since cats don't squeak, so it must be a rat.
A dirty rat, in an old woman's garb;
a reeking rat, under our dear Barb.
O! Sticks and pokes to slat the rat with: *splat*!
[Now don't be "angry"; but just try to reply with a new stanza. I like
the rhyme scheme and the meter of this one. :)]
<Samsnipwithoutads>
>
> Is it a joker's truth or a liar's scam
> coming from the mouth of 'Sam I am'?
> Knowledge begs no communion to begin
> (besides that, I was talking to Ms. Cyn).
> A stick, a poke, a bear, a Sam. I scram.
>
> -- Cm~
<http://www.angelfire.com/mi/scottennis/Sam.html>
^[The Perpetual _Green Eggs and Ham_ Parody Page]^
Hiya, Cat. :-)
I detected what I thought might be a more personal voice in
[<7h7epvo2lgv4qgm3g...@4ax.com>] your post.
I use voice a lot, so I pay attention to it, but my #1 [heh] FAQ is
always "Am I getting it right?" With poetry, I ask twice.
Anyhoo, I'm staying out of "#1 FAQ", The Thread, as per ~my agenda~,
but here you've created an opportunity, so I'm taking it. :-)
And I like "Knowledge begs no communion", muchly. :-) :-) :-)
{ehrm, but not, like, a whole poem of it, just in case @%^}
What you've done, upthread, with your reply, is something I've seen
missing from the efforts of most AAPCian [& al.] partcipants, but
have tried to take notice of whenever I find it documented, namely,
ehrm, routine [correspondence] data-exchange via "occasional verse".
{obviously, i've not made the effort here, just in case @%^}
I mean, you're not the only one, 'specially re[AAPC]cently, and the
top-shelf examples at which I'm peering are in, like, Italian.
Bravo, Cat! [& al.]
May Barbara give you extra cookies. :-)
\\//_ - cyn
--
<90strr$62n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
heh
your starting to read like Dennis
Thanks. I have saved the page and will read it later.
> Hiya, Cat. :-)
Hi, Cyn. :-)
> I detected what I thought might be a more personal voice in
> [<7h7epvo2lgv4qgm3g...@4ax.com>] your post.
A good thing I hope.
> I use voice a lot, so I pay attention to it, but my #1 [heh] FAQ is
> always "Am I getting it right?" With poetry, I ask twice.
In contrast with me who still questions what questions to ask once.
> Anyhoo, I'm staying out of "#1 FAQ", The Thread, as per ~my agenda~,
> but here you've created an opportunity, so I'm taking it. :-)
>
> And I like "Knowledge begs no communion", muchly. :-) :-) :-)
Well, thank you muchly, Cyn. :-)
> {ehrm, but not, like, a whole poem of it, just in case @%^}
Understood.
> What you've done, upthread, with your reply, is something I've seen
> missing from the efforts of most AAPCian [& al.] partcipants, but
> have tried to take notice of whenever I find it documented, namely,
> ehrm, routine [correspondence] data-exchange via "occasional verse".
How to respond? Perhaps: You would think that people of verse would
desire to converse in verse. IMHO, it would be an excellent way to hone
{or proudly display) your skills?
Note to self: Try to communicate via "occasional verse" (when and where
appropriate, and even though it may be dangerous considering current
level of expertise and confidence).
Talking of upthread, I see "Sam I am" wants to play bat-the-rat,
however I am reluctant to play knowing his history with others. But, he
has made a challenge of converse-in-verse. Am I to concede the duel?
Maybe, maybe not. It does pose an opportunity to hone my skills.
> {obviously, i've not made the effort here, just in case @%^}
Yea, but you have your own unique language! [Insert jealousy here]
> I mean, you're not the only one, 'specially re[AAPC]cently, and the
> top-shelf examples at which I'm peering are in, like, Italian.
>
> Bravo, Cat! [& al.]
>
> May Barbara give you extra cookies. :-)
Mmmm, cooookies.
> \\//_ - cyn
Thank you for the kind words, Cyn.
-- Cm~
I take no offence with this as I tend to enjoy conversing with Dennis,
however this is bad because I would prefer to read like 'me'.
-- Cm~
[Snipped Comment and Abstract Portrait]
Sam dangles 'rat' to see if Cat will play
with him, once told "you have nothing to say."
To bat or not to bat: the question: waste,
for Sam only replies in very poor taste.
Cat quotes the Maiden "Now I say Good Day!"
-- Cm~
That. I've been on a few newsletters whose Rule was "verse only."
Most participants degenerated into doggerel immediately.
Nor did any of them improve, since that happens only when extant
form/rhyme must reach to encompass new content.
>
> Talking of upthread, I see "Sam I am" wants to play bat-the-rat,
> however I am reluctant to play knowing his history with others. But, he
> has made a challenge of converse-in-verse. Am I to concede the duel?
> Maybe, maybe not. It does pose an opportunity to hone my skills.
There was no "duel" to concede; the little boy has learned how to
parrot the word "sword," and that is all.
Substitute the word "poultry," get the same equation.
>
> > {obviously, i've not made the effort here, just in case @%^}
>
> Yea, but you have your own unique language! [Insert jealousy here]
>
> > I mean, you're not the only one, 'specially re[AAPC]cently, and the
> > top-shelf examples at which I'm peering are in, like, Italian.
> >
> > Bravo, Cat! [& al.]
> >
> > May Barbara give you extra cookies. :-)
>
> Mmmm, cooookies.
>
> > \\//_ - cyn
>
> Thank you for the kind words, Cyn.
>
> -- Cm~
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The face of a child can say it all,
especially the mouth part of the face.
http://scrawlmark.org
A barber once had an old cat
Who found him a Spammy to splat
But insisted the scoop
Would contain his own poop
Or the rest of the joke would fall flat.
[ SNIP Cyn stuff then apologize. I'm sorry, Cyn. ]
> > How to respond? Perhaps: You would think that people of verse would
> > desire to converse in verse. IMHO, it would be an excellent way to hone
> > {or proudly display) your skills?
[ SNIP Note to self: ]
> That. I've been on a few newsletters whose Rule was "verse only."
> Most participants degenerated into doggerel immediately.
> Nor did any of them improve, since that happens only when extant
> form/rhyme must reach to encompass new content.
That's a damned shame, on both accounts. But still, you would think so.
> > Talking of upthread, I see "Sam I am" wants to play bat-the-rat,
> > however I am reluctant to play knowing his history with others. But, he
> > has made a challenge of converse-in-verse. Am I to concede the duel?
> > Maybe, maybe not. It does pose an opportunity to hone my skills.
>
> There was no "duel" to concede; the little boy has learned how to
> parrot the word "sword," and that is all.
> Substitute the word "poultry," get the same equation.
Yes, I know. I only expect poorly formed rant lacking in cultivation.
[ SNIP the end ]
-- Cm~
> Dennis M. Hammes wrote:
> > Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > >
> > > Cynthia A Moyer wrote:
> > > > Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:21:29 GMT; alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > > > Msg-ID:<MPG.1a045f8bd...@news.verizon.net>;
> > > > Barbara's Cat <c...@127.0.0.1> psoted:
> > > >
>
> [ SNIP Cyn stuff then apologize. I'm sorry, Cyn. ]
[dude, i'm the one reading over yr shoulder, and my breath stinks]
> > > How to respond? Perhaps: You would think that people of verse would
> > > desire to converse in verse. IMHO, it would be an excellent way to hone
> > > {or proudly display) your skills?
>
> [ SNIP Note to self: ]
>
> > That. I've been on a few newsletters whose Rule was "verse only."
(wow, "newsletters", huh? . . . Granddaddy pulled a stunt like that)
> > Most participants degenerated into doggerel immediately.
> > Nor did any of them improve, since that happens only when extant
> > form/rhyme must reach to encompass new content.
>
> That's a damned shame, on both accounts. But still, you would think so.
[i'm glad Dennis toojk the tjime to say so]
> > > Talking of upthread, I see "Sam I am" wants to play bat-the-rat,
> > > however I am reluctant to play knowing his history with others. But, he
> > > has made a challenge of converse-in-verse. Am I to concede the duel?
> > > Maybe, maybe not. It does pose an opportunity to hone my skills.
> >
> > There was no "duel" to concede; the little boy has learned how to
> > parrot the word "sword," and that is all.
> > Substitute the word "poultry," get the same equation.
>
> Yes, I know. I only expect poorly formed rant lacking in cultivation.
>
> [ SNIP the end ]
>
> -- Cm~
{i am completely out of order today @%^}
> Cynthia A Moyer wrote:
> > Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:21:29 GMT; alt.arts.poetry.comments
> > Msg-ID:<MPG.1a045f8bd...@news.verizon.net>;
> > Barbara's Cat <c...@127.0.0.1> psoted:
> >
> > <Samsnipwithoutads>
> > >
> > > Is it a joker's truth or a liar's scam
> > > coming from the mouth of 'Sam I am'?
> > > Knowledge begs no communion to begin
> > > (besides that, I was talking to Ms. Cyn).
> > > A stick, a poke, a bear, a Sam. I scram.
> > >
> > > -- Cm~
> >
> > <http://www.angelfire.com/mi/scottennis/Sam.html>
> >
> > ^[The Perpetual _Green Eggs and Ham_ Parody Page]^
>
> Thanks. I have saved the page and will read it later.
I take my Seuss very seriously; Geisel "matters". [imo]
> > Hiya, Cat. :-)
>
> Hi, Cyn. :-)
^[I move to recycle the greetings! :-) ]^
> > I detected what I thought might be a more personal voice in
> > [<7h7epvo2lgv4qgm3g...@4ax.com>] your post.
>
> A good thing I hope.
heh, a Cat? ~fishin'~? ;-) . . . naw :-)
What it might be good for is, ehrm, "finding where you are", which is
a reading that needs to be retaken over time: I know I get a bit
shell-shocked by the difference[s] between the voice a person posts
["chats", "debates", &c.] with and the voice[s] in their poems.
IMO: it's very much like being backstage at, like, The Opera.
IOW: here's a chance for you to listen to your everyday voice echoed
back with rhyme and meter, IFF I've tuned in to you accurately. :-)
> > I use voice a lot, so I pay attention to it, but my #1 [heh] FAQ is
> > always "Am I getting it right?" With poetry, I ask twice.
>
> In contrast with me who still questions what questions to ask once.
Nope :-), no "contrast" there :-), pass me a paddle. :-)
Now, what /I've/ been doin' ;-), is ya aim that paddle right about
knee-high ;-) . . . if'n it jumps? it's alive! ;-)
<#1FAQsnipagenda>
> >
> > And I like "Knowledge begs no communion", muchly. :-) :-) :-)
>
> Well, thank you muchly, Cyn. :-)
FTR[/IMO]: you can use it in oodles of poems, just don't let folks
see, otherwise you risk a rut-stuck-poet label. :-) ;-) :-)
But, man, if you can dress that with the dignity it suggests? wow.
> > {ehrm, but not, like, a whole poem of it, just in case @%^}
>
> Understood.
Or, y'know, buy steel plate in bulk! 8^D ;^D 8^D
But, seriously, the more "topics" I identify as having real personal
significance for ~mememe~, the longer I think I oughta wait before
tackling anything more [I'm biased] than the least of their number.
Similarly, clever/euphonic turns of phrase tempt my callow self.
All the while I'm telling myself I shouldn't be writing about
anything for another five-ten years, I [~imH/Ho~] need practice.
And here we are. :-)
> > What you've done, upthread, with your reply, is something I've seen
> > missing from the efforts of most AAPCian [& al.] partcipants, but
> > have tried to take notice of whenever I find it documented, namely,
> > ehrm, routine [correspondence] data-exchange via "occasional verse".
>
> How to respond? Perhaps: You would think that people of verse would
> desire to converse in verse.
Sure, and it does happen . . . keeping in mind that not all AAPCians
[& al.] are [non-Free] "verse"-verse ~junkies~.
> IMHO, it would be an excellent way to hone {or proudly display) your
> skills?
Sure :-), or to catch yourself wriggling out of sense-based logicks
[in the context of poetry, yes, even, why not], or to increase your
opportunities to see what your good/bad habits look like up against
other folks' good/bad habits in a situation in which few care to
[Dennis comes to mind, but also some Italian, whose name escapes me]
or could afford to slow down long enough to launch direct c&c, or any
number of different motivations from instance to instance. :-) [?]
^[hadta sleep on that . . . fair 'nuff; it'll wobble :-) ]^
> Note to self: Try to communicate via "occasional verse" (when and where
> appropriate, and even though it may be dangerous considering current
> level of expertise and confidence).
However it came about, you've [imo] learned to type all the right
things. I'm comparing a "Note to Self" with traditional [US] wedding
vows: if you can internalize and realize 10%, you come out ahead. :-)
{codependency clauses in the prenups notwithstanding @%^}
FTR: I try to consider "current level[s] of expertise and confidence"
in others and, yes, in myself; it doesn't take much to ~cynvince me~
that somebody's writing a tetch above "current level[s]" . . . and as
long as there doesn't anythin' ugly about the ego[e]s gets t'goin'
lahkuh howse afahr . . . writing beyond what is safe can be good. :-)
Note to Self: keep it safe; emphasis on "safe".
> Talking of upthread, I see "Sam I am" wants to play bat-the-rat,
> however I am reluctant to play knowing his history with others. But, he
> has made a challenge of converse-in-verse. Am I to concede the duel?
> Maybe, maybe not. It does pose an opportunity to hone my skills.
Mister Aitch'ud prolly exhort y'all to choose yr weapons.
In largely the same esprit d'escalier, I adulate "to choose".
I don't think Sam's /really/ bothering anyone, but I do ignore him.
[¿"dangerous considering current level of expertise and confidence"?]
IOW: i've got enough trouble to head into where some's obvious, tnx,
but y'all g'wannan play . . . just hose down in the mudroom! 8^D
> > {obviously, i've not made the effort here, just in case @%^}
>
> Yea, but you have your own unique language! [Insert jealousy here]
Dude, Cat, thanks, i'm shur, but, DUDE, it doesn't work, & it hurts.
And sometimes it ~works~ . . . but hain't it awful quiet? :-(
No offense/offence to who's in the virtual around, but, *sheesh*.
Last time things got this unbusy inna froup, thar wuzza war on.
<http://news.google.com/news?q=war>
^[nope]^
Anyhoo, if I could get my "own unique" arse inna load-bearing sling,
which translates into a poetry context as "c&c give and take", I'd be
hauling pixels at PFFA, wherever they'd lemme post:
<http://www.everypoet.org/pffa/>
^[running when I clicked it, but they sometimes go down]^
Aaannderrrghrumpfh . . . nope . . . Juvenal.
> > I mean, you're not the only one, 'specially re[AAPC]cently, and the
> > top-shelf examples at which I'm peering are in, like, Italian.
> >
> > Bravo, Cat! [& al.]
> >
> > May Barbara give you extra cookies. :-)
>
> Mmmm, cooookies.
{i hesitated over "fishies" . . . life is a coin-toss @%^}
> > \\//_ - cyn
>
> Thank you for the kind words, Cyn.
>
> -- Cm~
Kind words [imo?] are what's needed, too. :-)
Thank /you/, Cat. :-) :-) :-)
\\//_ - cyn
--
beginning to miss Ms. Bindi! :-), lots, tho :-(
When Dad's gotta mad-on, the room
knows better. I'm loath to presume
what's a splat and a tap
or a hand, wall or yap,
so I wait,
in the dark,
like a 'shroom.
A floor Philco, an upside-down broom,
Made a jungle of Dad's living room,
Where I gathered my pennies
From lines such as Benny's
"Mary Livingstone, I presume?"
Most salesmen make livings as rubes
will allow. Some sell brushes, some tubes
[you can find 'em on ebay],
some encyclopaediae,
while Benny chased blonde-headed airline hostesses.
> ~~
> >>------------------------------------------------<<
>
> "How do you come up with the stuff you write about?"
>
> >>------------------------------------------------<<
> ~~
Harlan subscribes to the idea of the month club run by a little old
lady in Schenectady.
--
sheila
I haven't read any ellison in years,
He's the fellow who taught me how to hate television.
Thanks for the url...
g.(mostly harmless)
--
"Don't crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers."
-Firesign Theatre
>
> --
> sheila
Harlan was going to /run/ the idea of the month club, but nobody
could see him over the podium.
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