Combat Zone. by Will Dockery
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Driving through the combat zone
a rasta steps out,
sort of calling my name ---
a reasonable approximation.
Variation of my street name I guess.
Said he could take me to see Raine,
apparently the rastas have her locked up in a house
somewhere in the combat zone.
He wanted money for his information,
at which point I was to park and walk.
It seemed very sinister, but he smoothed it over fairly often.
I said I'd come back later,
when the bad vibes wore down.
Rasta gets crazy on me in the car,
wanting five dollars, two bucks, anything.
I give him nothing, just smoke and think.
He's got an ice pick in his hand,
then he makes like he's got a gun.
I'd already heard Raine was in jail
but i didn't expect a rasta jail.
The image crossed my mind how it would feel
if he jabbed that icepick into me
a couple of times or more.
Just curious to see if he'd do it or not,
could I stop him, I could tell he didn't know.
As we stare and talk about money.
I bummed a cigarette from him.
I told him I'd be in touch about seeing Raine.
He said, "Man, you crazy.", and walked off.
I went back home to think.
-Will Dockery 1997 (c)2002
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Ironywaves
"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> what more evidence do we need to prove that you only post here to get
attention?
Well, JRS, I won't say I post here to be ignored, you arrogant, ignorant,
no-talent fuckwit. Have a nice day!
Will
Since you snipped it w/o comment on the poem itself, choosing instead to
attack me personally, the only thing you're actually capable of, I'll repost
the poem for others to enjoy:
Combat Zone
Driving through the combat zone
a rasta steps out,
sort of calling my name ---
a reasonable approximation.
Variation of my street name I guess.
Said he could take me to see Raine,
apparently the rastas have her locked up in a house
somewhere in the combat zone.
He wanted money for his information,
at which point I was to park and walk.
It seemed very sinister, but he smoothed it over fairly often.
I said I'd come back later,
when the bad vibes wore down.
Rasta gets crazy on me in the car,
wanting five dollars, two bucks, anything.
I give him nothing, just smoke and think.
He's got an ice pick in his hand,
then he makes like he's got a gun.
I'd already heard Raine was in jail
but I didn't expect a rasta jail.
The image crossed my mind how it would feel
if he jabbed that icepick into me
a couple of times or more.
Just curious to see if he'd do it or not,
could I stop him, I could tell he didn't know.
As we stare and talk about money.
I bummed a cigarette from him.
I told him I'd be in touch about seeing Raine.
He said, "Man, you crazy.", and walked off.
I went back home to think.
-Will Dockery 1997 (c)2003
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> what more evidence do we need to prove that you only post here to get
>attention?
>
>Well, JRS, I won't say I post here to be ignored, you arrogant, ignorant,
>no-talent fuckwit. Have a nice day!
>Will
interesting. now you're crossposting your piece of shit to AAPC, obviously
hoping for even MORE attention. even when chuckles, the very king of pathetic
attention, posted his stolen poetry to these newsgroups he didn't post a
follow-up message begging for notice if he received none the first time.
which tells me that you're not here for the poetry, dockery, you're here for the
attention. it's why you crosspost to so many different groups. what other reason
could you have to posting to Alt.Pagan? they're not a poetry newsgroup, and the
themes of your writing really don't have much to do with Paganism.
and really, what are you getting all pissy about? you're getting what you want,
aren't you?
>Since you snipped it w/o comment on the poem itself, choosing instead to
>attack me personally, the only thing you're actually capable of, I'll repost
>the poem for others to enjoy:
since i have a true love and respect for humanity, i have deleted this comical
piece of shit that only a moron could enjoy. if other sub-humans are interested
in seeing your usual example of bad writing, they can follow the thread to it's
source.
like chuckles "military" career, your lame ass reasons for posting this shit
have been revealed, by your own hand, no less.
we already know chuckles has no shame. now we know you don't either. not that
shame, honesty, truth or poetry has ANYTHING to do with why you're here. you're
just whining because i point the truth out to you.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
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Ironywaves
> and really, what are you getting all pissy about? you're getting what you
want,
> aren't you?
I wasn't being pissy, JRS, just calling it as I see it.
Will
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
Will, I like this one. we all need to trim some. the bone and flesh were real.
ying
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> and really, what are you getting all pissy about? you're getting what you
>want,
>> aren't you?
>
>I wasn't being pissy, JRS, just calling it as I see it.
>Will
being a chuckles-like liar, i don't imagine you would know what you were
"seeing" if it was right in front of your face.
you only crossposted this message to AAPC after i made a comment on your typical
piece of shit.
why? because you wanted the attention.
and again i ask, why are you posting this piece of shit to the Pagan newsgroup?
they're not a poetry newsgroup? what other reason could you have then to attract
attention over there, with the added hope that someone over there will give you
the uninformed praise you so richly, and might i add, pathetically, desire.
anyway, you're inept dancing around the issue isn't doing you any good. with
each transparent denial you make, you reveal more and more your reasons for
being here. at least chuckles has the excuse of being a psychopath. what's your
excuse?
Ironywaves
Thanks, Ying. I'm learning to trim that extra flesh of hubris and chutzpah
from the poems, and reading aloud at poetry redings helps this, as well,
which I've been doing more of again, lately. I'm planning a quick trip to
Atlanta for a reading there that happens on Tuesdays, which I usually miss,
because of the local one. Time to get out and about, on as broad a level as
possible.
To tie in with this, I just put the finishing touches on a new chapbook of
poems, the first I've done in some time... a couple of years, actually. I'm
calling it... "Irony Waves". Any of my pals on Usenet who'd like a copy,
just slip me a S.A.S.E. to:
Will Dockery
P.O.Box 3663
Phenix City, AL 36868.
And I'll get a copy out to you... free, of course. I do this for the love of
it, not the cash.
Will
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ironywaves
Ironywaves
> being a chuckles-like liar,
No JRS, you are the liar.
> and again i ask, why are you posting this piece of shit to the Pagan
newsgroup?
Because I want to? How's that... you okay with that?
what other reason could you have then to attract
> attention over there
You have a problem with attention, don't you? You seem to want to wallow in
it, yet you think there's something wrong with me getting my poetry out to
as wide an audience as possible. I don't.
you reveal more and more your reasons for
> being here.
Nothing to reveal. From the start I've been here, posting poems, and will
continue to.
Chandra P. Das
>
> Combat Zone
>
> Driving through the combat zone
> a rasta steps out,
Grammar and syntax. It might work if you end-stopped the L1 with a
period, even though it's not a sentence. But as you've got it, it reads
as though the rasta man steps out while he's driving. Also, isn't it
derogaroty to say 'rasta' instead of rasta man? I don't know, check it up.
> sort of calling my name ---
> a reasonable approximation.
> Variation of my street name I guess.
You've used up three lines to say what can be said in one line. You're
not writting a treatise on your name and its variations.
> Said he could take me to see Raine,
> apparently the rastas have her locked up in a house
> somewhere in the combat zone.
Instead of repeating 'combat zone,' think about providing sharp and
concrete details that would make your reader picture this environment.
> He wanted money for his information,
> at which point I was to park and walk.
> It seemed very sinister, but he smoothed it over fairly often.
Way too wordy. Let's not even talk about rhythm -- even as prose this
reads very loose and circumlocutory. Edit, edit and edit some more,
mercilessly.
> I said I'd come back later,
> when the bad vibes wore down.
> Rasta gets crazy on me in the car,
> wanting five dollars, two bucks, anything.
> I give him nothing, just smoke and think.
> He's got an ice pick in his hand,
> then he makes like he's got a gun.
> I'd already heard Raine was in jail
> but I didn't expect a rasta jail.
> The image crossed my mind how it would feel
> if he jabbed that icepick into me
> a couple of times or more.
> Just curious to see if he'd do it or not,
> could I stop him, I could tell he didn't know.
> As we stare and talk about money.
> I bummed a cigarette from him.
> I told him I'd be in touch about seeing Raine.
> He said, "Man, you crazy.", and walked off.
> I went back home to think.
Some of this is interesting to read, even though it's quite verbose and
reads more like a short story than a poem. Why not just write it as
prose? The line breaks don't really serve any purpose here. The ending
kinda runs out of steam. 'I went back home to think' -- that's boring.
Don't limit yourself to the experience. Invent, create, use your
imagination to build a narrative that's interesting.
> -Will Dockery 1997 (c)2003
>
>
>
Ironywaves
> > Combat Zone
> >
> > Driving through the combat zone
> > a rasta steps out,
>
> Grammar and syntax. It might work if you end-stopped the L1 with a
> period, even though it's not a sentence. But as you've got it, it reads
> as though the rasta man steps out while he's driving. Also, isn't it
> derogaroty to say 'rasta' instead of rasta man? I don't know, check it up.
I'm not sure, but rastaman does sound better, at this point.
> > sort of calling my name ---
> > a reasonable approximation.
> > Variation of my street name I guess.
>
> You've used up three lines to say what can be said in one line. You're
> not writting a treatise on your name and its variations.
True, wish now I'd just quoted him, six years later, I've at least
temporarily forgotten the interesting twist/mistake he made when he didn't
yell the usual "Stoneman" at me... maybe my memory will serve me better, a
bit later.
> > Said he could take me to see Raine,
> > apparently the rastas have her locked up in a house
> > somewhere in the combat zone.
>
> Instead of repeating 'combat zone,' think about providing sharp and
> concrete details that would make your reader picture this environment.
Apparently, they had her locked up under house arrest in a crack house,
turning her out... even if I could have figured a way to save her, I've
never been sure if she even wanted to be saved.
"...somewhere near ground zero in Shadowville."
> > He wanted money for his information,
> > at which point I was to park and walk.
> > It seemed very sinister, but he smoothed it over fairly often.
>
> Way too wordy. Let's not even talk about rhythm -- even as prose this
> reads very loose and circumlocutory. Edit, edit and edit some more,
> mercilessly.
Yeah, I can see chopping this part up and getting the same thought across.
Thanks, man.
> > I said I'd come back later,
> > when the bad vibes wore down.
> > Rasta gets crazy on me in the car,
> > wanting five dollars, two bucks, anything.
> > I give him nothing, just smoke and think.
> > He's got an ice pick in his hand,
> > then he makes like he's got a gun.
> > I'd already heard Raine was in jail
> > but I didn't expect a rasta jail.
> > The image crossed my mind how it would feel
> > if he jabbed that icepick into me
> > a couple of times or more.
> > Just curious to see if he'd do it or not,
> > could I stop him, I could tell he didn't know.
> > As we stare and talk about money.
> > I bummed a cigarette from him.
> > I told him I'd be in touch about seeing Raine.
> > He said, "Man, you crazy.", and walked off.
> > I went back home to think.
>
> Some of this is interesting to read, even though it's quite verbose and
> reads more like a short story than a poem. Why not just write it as
> prose?
I've thought of writing that 1995-98 time period down in prose... maybe I'll
get some good speed and type it up sometime soon, after alll.
The line breaks don't really serve any purpose here. The ending
> kinda runs out of steam. 'I went back home to think' -- that's boring.
> Don't limit yourself to the experience. Invent, create, use your
> imagination to build a narrative that's interesting.
That would use more details... the other things happening at the time that
had to be kept seperate. I think the prose idea might suit this period of
time well.
Will
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j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> being a chuckles-like liar,
>
>No JRS, you are the liar.
i think not, dockery. i do not make claims, such as: "i am only here for the
poetry" then disprove such a dishonest claim by my actions. you, on the other
hand, do this.
the proof is in your actions. you crosspost this to several different
newsgroups, and when no one comments on your unspeakable shit, you post once
again for attention.
your actions belie your words, dockery. if you're too stupid and delusional,
like chuckles, to realize this, it's not my fault.
>> and again i ask, why are you posting this piece of shit to the Pagan
>newsgroup?
>
>Because I want to? How's that... you okay with that?
you may do as your wish, oh lousy liar. but i shall inform you of your real
reasons for posting. and i have not been proven wrong.
i shall explain to you once more: you post to other newsgroups in hopes of
eliciting comments, good or bad. granted, you probably prefer good comments,
because good comments assist you in keeping your pathetic delusions alive. but
if you can't get good comments, then you will take bad ones so that you can act
out your "i'm so wronged" fantasies. either way, it's a pathetic "win-win" for
you.
also to add, you will accept ANY comments from a female, good or bad. those are
your favorites. perhaps you masturbate as you read them? perhaps comments, good
or bad, from females gets you off. who knows? who really cares? but the fact is,
you drool every time a female even notices you. it's very obvious, dockery.
>what other reason could you have then to attract
>> attention over there
>
>You have a problem with attention, don't you? You seem to want to wallow in
>it, yet you think there's something wrong with me getting my poetry out to
>as wide an audience as possible. I don't.
what delusional stupidity! why would anyone in their right mind want to
seriously read your unspeakable shit?
but you again (badly, as always) evade my question. in RAP and AAPC (which you
attached as a crosspost, AFTER i started commenting on this unspeakable piece of
shit) posting a poem is on-topic.
but posting a poem in the Pagan newsgroup really isn't on-topic. that being so,
what is your reason for posting to the Pagan newsgroup? i will tell you. it
fulfills your pathetic desire for attention.
this really is too easy, dockery.
>you reveal more and more your reasons for
>> being here.
>
>Nothing to reveal. From the start I've been here, posting poems, and will
>continue to.
of course you will. what else is there for you to do? you're a 46 year old clown
who delivers pizza. how fucking fulfilling could your life be?
so, shall we recap? let's:
1) you write unspeakable shit.
2) you have no desire to get better.
3) you post here for attention, not for poetry, despite your protests, which you
do far too much for me not to be hitting a nerve.
4) you're a lousy liar.
5) if you would only kill yourself, you'd have more friends than you could ever
possibly imagine. no, really, you would, everyone would then like you.
well, i think that's everything in a nutshell. thanks for letting me set you
straight. it seems like i have to do this a lot. but deep down, i am an opimist.
Ironywaves
> i think not, dockery. i do not make claims, such as: "i am only here for
the
> poetry"
I *never* wrote "I am ONLY here for the poetry"... I like to have fun, too.
But I *am* here for the poetry, and your repititions otherwise will not
change that fact.
> the proof is in your actions. you crosspost this to several different
newsgroups,
I've always crossposted, and always will. I like the mixture of voices it
can bring in.
> your actions belie your words, dockery. if you're too stupid and
delusional,
When in doubt, rely on personal attacks. That's your pattern, I don't expect
you to change... so keep it up, I guess.
> >> and again i ask, why are you posting this piece of shit
Because I feel it's a pretty good poem.
> you may do as your wish, oh lousy liar.
Hey, I called *you* the Liar, first, you lousy liar.
> i shall explain to you once more: you post to other newsgroups in hopes of
> eliciting comments, good or bad.
Well, that makes sense, you idiot.
> also to add, you will accept ANY comments from a female, good or bad.
those are
> your favorites.
Yeah, those are good, but I don't really have a preference.
perhaps you masturbate as you read them?
No, but it *is* an idea, sometime down the line maybe... *grin*
> you drool every time a female even notices you. it's very obvious,
dockery.
How is it obvious... show some proof.
> >You have a problem with attention, don't you?
No, you seem to crave much more attention than I do, without even working at
it. You won't even post your poetry!
> >you reveal more and more your reasons for
> >> being here.
Nothing to reveal. From the start I've been here, posting poems, and will
continue to.
> of course you will. what else is there for you to do? you're a 46 year old
clown
> who delivers pizza. how fucking fulfilling could your life be?
If you count the poetry, then I'm set.
> so, shall we recap? let's:
>
> 1) you write unspeakable shit.
In *your* opinion.
> 2) you have no desire to get better.
Liar. I do have the desire.
> 3) you post here for attention, not for poetry
You're really hung up on this one.
> 4) you're a lousy liar.
I wriote the truth... you're the liar.
> 5) if you would only kill yourself
That will never happen.
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> i think not, dockery. i do not make claims, such as: "i am only here for
>the
>> poetry"
>
>I *never* wrote "I am ONLY here for the poetry"... I like to have fun, too.
>But I *am* here for the poetry, and your repititions otherwise will not
>change that fact.
you are here for the attention your unspeakable pieces of shit can bring you.
that is it, dockery. why would you post a second time begging people for
comments?
care to try again?
>> the proof is in your actions. you crosspost this to several different
>newsgroups,
>
>I've always crossposted, and always will. I like the mixture of voices it
>can bring in.
you crosspost in hopes other will notice your unspeakable pieces of shit.
>> your actions belie your words, dockery. if you're too stupid and
>delusional,
>
>When in doubt, rely on personal attacks. That's your pattern, I don't expect
>you to change... so keep it up, I guess.
if the shoe fits, let the delusional and stupid man wear it.
>> >> and again i ask, why are you posting this piece of shit
>
>Because I feel it's a pretty good poem.
how would you know?
>> you may do as your wish, oh lousy liar.
>
>Hey, I called *you* the Liar, first, you lousy liar.
i think not, dockery. my intentions have always been pretty honest. you can not
make the same claim.
>> i shall explain to you once more: you post to other newsgroups in hopes of
>> eliciting comments, good or bad.
>
>Well, that makes sense, you idiot.
but not to learn how to write poetry, which you cannot do, nor do you care if
you do or don't. you post for attention, so that either people will tell you
you're a wonderful poet, which you are not, or to tell you your shit is shit,
which it is, so that you play your victimization game.
> > also to add, you will accept ANY comments from a female, good or bad.
>those are
>> your favorites.
>
>Yeah, those are good, but I don't really have a preference.
how amusing. you're a terrible liar, dockery. all we have to do is look at your
responses. a female could call you the worst poet in the world and you can
almost hear the Astroglide bottle squirting from your direction. it really is
quite obvious.
> perhaps you masturbate as you read them?
>
>No, but it *is* an idea, sometime down the line maybe... *grin*
no doubt. so i guess then you're not here for the poetry? just the masturbatory
fun that such attention gives you?
>> you drool every time a female even notices you. it's very obvious,
>dockery.
>
>How is it obvious... show some proof.
look at anything you post to the obviously idiotic Brenda.
>> >You have a problem with attention, don't you?
>
>No, you seem to crave much more attention than I do, without even working at
>it. You won't even post your poetry!
i did not post the above statement, dockery, you did. i would hope you might at
least keep track of what you're typing. there is no wonder you write such
unspeakable shit.
>> >you reveal more and more your reasons for
>> >> being here.
>
>Nothing to reveal. From the start I've been here, posting poems, and will
>continue to.
of course. the chances that someone will give you want you desire most is always
there.
but whether you decide to post something or not does not change the fact that
what you post is unspeakable shit.
>> of course you will. what else is there for you to do? you're a 46 year old
>clown
>> who delivers pizza. how fucking fulfilling could your life be?
>
>If you count the poetry, then I'm set.
my point it proven.
>> so, shall we recap? let's:
>>
>> 1) you write unspeakable shit.
>
>In *your* opinion.
not at all. it's unspeakable shit. like the fact that mountains are made of
earth and stone and forests are made of trees and plants.
>> 2) you have no desire to get better.
>
>Liar. I do have the desire.
that is not part of your agenda, dockery. you already believe you're just a
wonderful writer, which you are not.
>> 3) you post here for attention, not for poetry
>
>You're really hung up on this one.
the truth shall set you free. or allow me to have a lot of fun.
>> 4) you're a lousy liar.
>
>I wriote the truth... you're the liar.
then you are as stupid and delusional as chuckles. if i were you, i'd take take
the liar label.
>> 5) if you would only kill yourself
>
>That will never happen.
i am an optimist.
Ironywaves
> you are here for the attention your unspeakable pieces of shit can bring
you.
> that is it, dockery.
What you call shit, is my poetry. Wipe the shit out of your eyes, and
perhaps you can see this. You wallow in shit, and you're covered in it.
> you crosspost in hopes other will notice your unspeakable pieces of shit.
Ah, a new phrase to repeat endlessly. I begin to think you're nothing but a
spambot, JRS.
> if the shoe fits, let the delusional and stupid man wear it.
Try it on and see.
Will
Will Dockery
It seems my last reply to your last reply may be lost in the electric
wilderness of Usenet, JRS... in which JRS continues to see the world
through shit colored glasses. Here's the poem, comments and criticism
is welcomed:
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> you are here for the attention your unspeakable pieces of shit can bring
>you.
>> that is it, dockery.
>
>What you call shit, is my poetry.
what you inconceivably call poetry is unspeakable shit. i also notice that you
have crossposted to even more newsgroups in hope of gaining more attention. why
must you keep proving me right? are you really that dumb?
>Wipe the shit out of your eyes, and
>perhaps you can see this. You wallow in shit, and you're covered in it.
you can't even write a good flame, dockery.
>> you crosspost in hopes other will notice your unspeakable pieces of shit.
>
>Ah, a new phrase to repeat endlessly. I begin to think you're nothing but a
>spambot, JRS.
i know for a fact that you're nothing but a pathetic troll on the constant
look-out for suckers stupid enough to play your attention games and tell you
what a great poet you are. this is why you crosspost between several different
newsgroups. this is why you post some of the worst writing on the net. spare us
your claims of your love of "poetry", all right? that you're here to gain
pathetic attention is just so obvious. that you write unspeakable shit is even
more obvious. that i must constantly point these facts out to you is just too
much fun for me.
it's really that simple.
j r sherman
says...
>
>> "j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>It seems my last reply to your last reply may be lost in the electric
>wilderness of Usenet, JRS... in which JRS continues to see the world
>through shit colored glasses. Here's the poem, comments and criticism
>is welcomed:
since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable shit that
you call writing, you've now crossposted this excrement to even more newsgroups
in hopes of finding someone who will come tell you how wonderful you are?
why must you constantly prove me right?
Ironywaves
> since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
shit that
> you call writing,
*snip*
I don't just "call" it writing, JRS, it *is* writing. It needs no defense.
Will
Ironywaves
> you can't even write a good flame, dockery.
Of course not, JRS. That's your game [which I think you're lousy at... as
with everything you attempt, apparently]. I write poetry, mostly:
Combat Zone
-Will Dockery 1997 (c)2003
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j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> you can't even write a good flame, dockery.
>
>Of course not, JRS. That's your game [which I think you're lousy at... as
>with everything you attempt, apparently].
that's lame, even for you.
>I write poetry,
why do you keep insisting that the unspeakable shit that you write should be
called poetry?
if i wasn't right about this, dockery, you wouldn't be complaining so much.
obviously you're pretty insecure about the unspeakable shit that you produce,
and your reasons for posting it here.
as always, a recap is necessary:
1. you post shit.
2. you post this shit hoping someone will a) tell you you're wonderful, b) tell
you the truth so that you can fulfill your victimazation fantasies.
3. you crosspost to many different newsgroups so that you can a) get more
suckers to tell you you're wonderful, b) get more people to tell you you write
shit so that you can fulfill your victimazation fantasies.
it's really pretty simple, dockery.
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
>shit that
>> you call writing,
>
>*snip*
>
>I don't just "call" it writing, JRS, it *is* writing.
but it's still unspeakable shit, right, dockery? we can at least agree on that,
can't we?
unspeakably, embarrassing shit. right?
>It needs no defense.
me thinks the middle aged pizza delivery guy doth protest too much.
Ironywaves
> why do you keep insisting that the unspeakable shit that you write should
be
> called poetry?
Because that's what is is, is the obvious answer.
Will
Ironywaves
> 1. you post shit.
No, *you* post shit... I post poetry.
> 2. you post this shit hoping someone will a) tell you you're wonderful, b)
tell
> you the truth so that you can fulfill your victimazation fantasies.
I post the poems and take what comes. Good words are welcome, and I'll
defend myself against attacks such as yours.
> 3. you crosspost to many different newsgroups so that you can a) get more
> suckers to tell you you're wonderful, b) get more people to tell you you
write
> shit so that you can fulfill your victimazation fantasies.
I crosspost to get the poetry to a larger number of readers.
Will
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> In article <bdb44a4f.03111...@posting.google.com>, Will Dockery
> says...
> >
> >> "j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> >
> >It seems my last reply to your last reply may be lost in the electric
> >wilderness of Usenet, JRS... in which JRS continues to see the world
> >through shit colored glasses. Here's the poem, comments and criticism
> >is welcomed:
>
>
>
> since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable shit that
> you call writing, you've now crossposted this excrement to even more newsgroups
JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One RAP
troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, eventho I am not a member of
AAPC.
I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry. Should you had
tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
line or two from Dockery. Am I lying?
ying
Ironywaves
news:plm2rvc1tqdfdp7i4...@4ax.com...
> On 9 Nov 2003 10:11:35 -0800, dock...@yahoo.com (Will Dockery)
> wrote:
>
> >Combat Zone
> [boredom snip]
[snip reinstated]:
Combat Zone
-Will Dockery 1997 (c)2003
> Again, the same two questions arise:
>
> 1. Which line of this tedious reportage did you mistake for poetry?
It's a poem... as much as the three-liners I've read by you are poems.
> 2. Why?
Why what?
> In addition, before deciding to take up poetry writing, wouldn't
> learning something about the new endeavour first have been worth
> considering? Seriously.
I've been writing poetry for many years. You should take your own advice...
you have a way to go with poetry, Colin. Very seriously.
Will
http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Ironywaves
> > since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
shit that
> > you call writing, you've now crossposted this excrement to even more
newsgroups
jrsherman
> JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One RAP
> troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, eventho I am not a member of
> AAPC.
>
> I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry. Should you had
> tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
> line or two from Dockery. Am I lying?
ying
Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible, but he say that doesn't matter, remember?
Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but that probably
doesn't count, either.
Will
http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>> why do you keep insisting that the unspeakable shit that you write should
>be
>> called poetry?
>
>Because that's what is is, is the obvious answer.
clearly, chuckles-like delusion has set in, dockery.
but you still might be able to save yourself.
"might" being the key word here, of course.
Ironywaves
> but it's still unspeakable shit, right, dockery? we can at least agree on
that,
> can't we?
>
> unspeakably, embarrassing shit. right?
No, not from this level.
> >It needs no defense.
>
> me thinks the middle aged pizza delivery guy doth protest too much.
I'm not protesting, just answering you.
Will
http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Ironywaves
should
> >be
> >> called poetry?
> >
> >Because that's what is is, is the obvious answer.
>
> clearly, chuckles-like delusion has set in, dockery.
>
> but you still might be able to save yourself.
>
> "might" being the key word here, of course.
I think I'll do fine, thanks.
Will
Combat Zone
-Will Dockery 1997 (c)2003
http://pub24.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?img=31713&usernum=2030586177
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in
>
>> but it's still unspeakable shit, right, dockery? we can at least agree on
>that,
>> can't we?
>>
>> unspeakably, embarrassing shit. right?
>
>No, not from this level.
how would you know?
>> >It needs no defense.
>>
>> me thinks the middle aged pizza delivery guy doth protest too much.
>
>I'm not protesting, just answering you.
and at the same time crossposting to a bunch of other newsgroups. why?
easy. attention.
you're not mysterious at all, dockery.
j r sherman
>
>> >> why do you keep insisting that the unspeakable shit that you write
>should
>> >be
>> >> called poetry?
>> >
>> >Because that's what is is, is the obvious answer.
>>
>> clearly, chuckles-like delusion has set in, dockery.
>>
>> but you still might be able to save yourself.
>>
>> "might" being the key word here, of course.
>
>I think I'll do fine, thanks.
you're in denial, will. you write unspeakable shit. you need to realize this.
why are you so resistant to reality?
j r sherman
>
>Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible,
well, again, the question begs like dockery, how would you know what is good and
what is not? you write unspeakable shit, therefore, i really don't think you're
the authority on this subject.
>but he say that doesn't matter, remember?
indeed! the quality of my writing has nothing to do with the fact that you write
unspeakable shit.
>Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but that probably
>doesn't count, either.
please, dockery, you're so predictable. this is like shooting barrels in a
barrel.
Renay St. James
"Ironywaves" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message
news:vr2mqj8...@corp.supernews.com...
> I crosspost to get the poetry to a larger number of readers.
> Will
*****do it really well and readers will find you.
Renay
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> "Colin Ward" <c...@escape.ca> wrote in message
> news:plm2rvc1tqdfdp7i4...@4ax.com...
>> On 9 Nov 2003 10:11:35 -0800, dock...@yahoo.com (Will Dockery) wrote:
>>
>> >Combat Zone
>> [boredom snip]
>
> [snip reinstated]:
[boredom resnipped]
Again, the same two questions arise:
>>
>> 1. Which line of this tedious reportage did you mistake for poetry?
>
> It's a poem... as much as the three-liners I've read by you are poems.
>
>> 2. Why?
>
> Why what?
>
>> In addition, before deciding to take up poetry writing, wouldn't
>> learning something about the new endeavour first have been worth
>> considering? Seriously.
>
> I've been writing poetry for many years.
Translation: I like to be a self appointed poet since nobody else does.
> You should take your own
> advice... you have a way to go with poetry, Colin. Very seriously ill.
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #27 (also)
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:<bordd...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> In article <bdb44a4f.03111...@posting.google.com>, Will
>> Dockery says...
>> >
>> >> "j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> >
>> >It seems my last reply to your last reply may be lost in the electric
>> >wilderness of Usenet, JRS... in which JRS continues to see the world
>> >through shit colored glasses. Here's the poem, comments and criticism
>> >is welcomed:
>>
>>
>>
>> since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
>> shit that you call writing, you've now crossposted this excrement to
>> even more newsgroups
>
> JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One RAP
> troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, eventho I am not a member of
> AAPC.
>
> Should you had
> tried imitating him, instead of flaming him,
Monkey see, monkey do !
How original.
>> in hopes of finding someone who will come tell you how wonderful you
>> are?
>>
>> why must you constantly prove me right?
>>
>> love and kisses,
>>
>> j r sherman
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ "A
>> sad tale's best for winter: I have one Of sprites and goblins."
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Ironywaves
> In article <vr2nsrk...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> >Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible,
>
> well, again, the question begs like dockery, how would you know what is
good and
> what is not?
Because I know.
Will
Ironywaves
news:t4fsb.126741$275.368083@attbi_s53...
I keep pushing for that event.
Will
http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Ironywaves
janet santana
> In article <vr0c0ni...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...> >> being a chuckles-like liar,
> >
> >No JRS, you are the liar.
>
> i think not, dockery. i do not make claims, such as: "i am only here for the
> poetry" then disprove such a dishonest claim by my actions. you, on the other
> hand, do this.
>
> the proof is in your actions. you crosspost this to several different
> newsgroups, and when no one comments on your unspeakable shit, you post once
> again for attention.
>
> your actions belie your words, dockery. if you're too stupid and delusional,
> like chuckles, to realize this, it's not my fault.
>
> >> and again i ask, why are you posting this piece of shit to the Pagan
> >newsgroup?
> >
> >Because I want to? How's that... you okay with that?
>
> you may do as your wish, oh lousy liar. but i shall inform you of your real
> reasons for posting. and i have not been proven wrong.
>
> i shall explain to you once more: you post to other newsgroups in hopes of
> eliciting comments, good or bad. granted, you probably prefer good comments,
> because good comments assist you in keeping your pathetic delusions alive. but
> if you can't get good comments, then you will take bad ones so that you can act
> out your "i'm so wronged" fantasies. either way, it's a pathetic "win-win" for
> you.
>
> also to add, you will accept ANY comments from a female, good or bad. those are
> your favorites. perhaps you masturbate as you read them? perhaps comments, good
> or bad, from females gets you off. who knows? who really cares? but the fact is,
> you drool every time a female even notices you. it's very obvious, dockery.
>
> >what other reason could you have then to attract
> >> attention over there
> >
> >You have a problem with attention, don't you? You seem to want to wallow in
> >it, yet you think there's something wrong with me getting my poetry out to
> >as wide an audience as possible. I don't.
>
> what delusional stupidity! why would anyone in their right mind want to
> seriously read your unspeakable shit?
>
> but you again (badly, as always) evade my question. in RAP and AAPC (which you
> attached as a crosspost, AFTER i started commenting on this unspeakable piece of
> shit) posting a poem is on-topic.
>
> but posting a poem in the Pagan newsgroup really isn't on-topic. that being so,
> what is your reason for posting to the Pagan newsgroup? i will tell you. it
> fulfills your pathetic desire for attention.
>
> this really is too easy, dockery.
>
> >you reveal more and more your reasons for
> >> being here.
> >
> >Nothing to reveal. From the start I've been here, posting poems, and will
> >continue to.
>
> of course you will. what else is there for you to do? you're a 46 year old clown
> who delivers pizza. how fucking fulfilling could your life be?
>
> so, shall we recap? let's:
>
> 1) you write unspeakable shit.
>
> 2) you have no desire to get better.
>
> 3) you post here for attention, not for poetry, despite your protests, which you
> do far too much for me not to be hitting a nerve.
>
> 4) you're a lousy liar.
>
> 5) if you would only kill yourself, you'd have more friends than you could ever
> possibly imagine. no, really, you would, everyone would then like you.
>
> well, i think that's everything in a nutshell. thanks for letting me set you
> straight. it seems like i have to do this a lot. but deep down, i am an opimist.
I knew it!!! I knew you would write the word Chuckles. Ya fuckin' idiot.
Ironywaves
> you're in denial, will. you write unspeakable shit. you need to realize
this.
> why are you so resistant to reality?
I don't know... tell me.
Ironywaves
> > I've been writing poetry for many years.
>
> Translation: I like to be a self appointed poet since nobody else does.
Nobody else?
janet santana
> In article <vr2ma32...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> >
> >"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> >
> >> why do you keep insisting that the unspeakable shit that you write should
> be
> >> called poetry?
> >
> >Because that's what is is, is the obvious answer.
>
> clearly, chuckles-like delusion has set in, dockery.
>
> but you still might be able to save yourself.
>
> "might" being the key word here, of course.
j r, even a man who has sex with a child, deserves more respect than you.
Ironywaves
> I knew it!!! I knew you would write the word Chuckles. Ya fuckin' idiot.
That's JRSherman in a nutshell.
Will
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:<borm5...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> In article <vr2ma32...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
>> >
>> >"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> >
>> >> why do you keep insisting that the unspeakable shit that you write
>> >> should
>> be
>> >> called poetry?
>> >
>> >Because that's what is is, is the obvious answer.
>>
>> clearly, chuckles-like delusion has set in, dockery.
>>
>> but you still might be able to save yourself.
>>
>> "might" being the key word here, of course.
>
> j r, even a man who has sex with a child, deserves more respect than you.
>>
You don't mean this claim for respect, don't you?
>>
>> love and kisses,
>>
>> j r sherman
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ "A
>> sad tale's best for winter: I have one Of sprites and goblins."
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
--
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> <yyyiii...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > > since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
> shit that
> > > you call writing, you've now crossposted this excrement to even more
> newsgroups
> jrsherman
>
> > JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One RAP
> > troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, eventho I am not a member of
> > AAPC.
> >
> > I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry. Should you had
> > tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
> > line or two from Dockery. Am I lying?
> ying
>
> Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible, but he say that doesn't matter, remember?
> Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but that probably
> doesn't count, either.
> Will
>
your poetry so matter to him?
ying
> http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Ironywaves
news:670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com...
> "Ironywaves" <irony...@knology.net> wrote
> > > JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One RAP
> > > troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, even tho I am not a member of
> > > AAPC.
> > >
> > > I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry. Should you had
> > > tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
> > > line or two from Dockery. Am I lying?
> > ying
> >
> > Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible, but he say that doesn't matter, remember?
> > Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but that
probably
> > doesn't count, either.
> > Will
> >
> my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why does
> your poetry so matter to him?
ying
Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed. *shiver*
Will
http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> <yyyiii...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com...
>> "Ironywaves" <irony...@knology.net> wrote
>
>> > > JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One
>> > > RAP troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, even tho I am not a
>> > > member of AAPC.
>> > >
>> > > I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry. Should you
>> > > had tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have
>> > > learned a line or two from Dockery. Am I lying?
>> > ying
>> >
>> > Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible, but he say that doesn't matter,
>> > remember? Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but
>> > that
> probably
>> > doesn't count, either.
>> > Will
>> >
>> my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why does
>> your poetry so matter to him?
> ying
>
> Excellent point, Ying.
On his head :-))))
j r sherman
says...
>
>j r, even a man who has sex with a child, deserves more respect than you.
so chuckles, are you saying that you've had sex with a child?
that's a rather terrifying confession....
when did this happen? have you attempted to make resititution to this child you
had sex with, because it probably damaged the child forever.
are you sure this is something you wish to admit in public? on-line? in front of
everyone?
i hope, for your sake, there are no police officers reading these newsgroups.
i'm startled.
j r sherman
yyyiii...@yahoo.com says...
>I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry.
perhaps you are on heavy drugs?
>Should you had
>tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
>line or two from Dockery.
GOD, yingy, i didn't realize you hated me so much!
>Am I lying?
more like crazy, actually.
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:bort2...@drn.newsguy.com...
>> In article <vr2nsrk...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
>
>> >Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible,
>>
>> well, again, the question begs like dockery, how would you know what is
>good and
>> what is not?
>
>Because I know.
given what we have to go on here, how do you know? i mean you can tell yourself
all you want that you're young and have a good paying job, and that's not going
to be the truth, no matter how many times you say it. neither is your insecure
claims that you're a good.... i can't say it. let me try: that the unspeakable
shit that your produce is any good, which it is not.
the truth often hurts, dockery.
j r sherman
>
>Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed. *shiver*
how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry newsgroup
an "obsession"?
now if you want an obsession, it's posting to an original post of yours, begging
for comments. obsessive AND pathetic.
Chandra P. Das
Of course you'd respond this way, you retarded kook, because you
automatically become the enemy of any fight against illiteracy.
> ying
>
>
>
>>http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Michael Cook
> In article <vr2hqqs...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...> >> you can't even write a good flame, dockery.
> >
> >Of course not, JRS. That's your game [which I think you're lousy at... as
> >with everything you attempt, apparently].
>
> that's lame, even for you.
>
> >I write poetry,
>
> why do you keep insisting that the unspeakable shit that you write should
be
> called poetry?
>
much.
> obviously you're pretty insecure about the unspeakable shit that you
produce,
> and your reasons for posting it here.
>
> as always, a recap is necessary:
>
> 1. you post shit.
>
> 2. you post this shit hoping someone will a) tell you you're wonderful, b)
tell
> you the truth so that you can fulfill your victimazation fantasies.
>
> 3. you crosspost to many different newsgroups so that you can a) get more
> suckers to tell you you're wonderful, b) get more people to tell you you
write
> shit so that you can fulfill your victimazation fantasies.
>
> it's really pretty simple, dockery.
>
>
> love and kisses,
>
> j r sherman
>
> "A sad tale's best for winter: I have one
> Of sprites and goblins."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Doc,
recall my admonition,
why it is you will never best Mr. sherman?
mdc
Renay St. James
> In article <2400cbfe.03111...@posting.google.com>, janet
santana
> says...
> >
>
> >j r, even a man who has sex with a child, deserves more respect than you.
>
> so chuckles, are you saying that you've had sex with a child?
>
> that's a rather terrifying confession....
>
> when did this happen? have you attempted to make resititution to this
child you
> had sex with, because it probably damaged the child forever.
>
> are you sure this is something you wish to admit in public? on-line? in
front of
> everyone?
>
> i hope, for your sake, there are no police officers reading these
newsgroups.
>
> i'm startled.
>
>
> j r sherman
comma comma
comma comma
comma commmediannnnnnn
Chuck Lysaght blows
Chuck Lysaght blooow-oooow-oooows
*****ha! try getting *that* little ditty out of your head, eh?
BG is onstage somewhere right now. can't remember
the production, just know I heard it somewher.
Renay
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
Chandra P. Das
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> In article <vr377tg...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> >
> >Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed. *shiver*
>
> how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry newsgroup
> an "obsession"?
>
not obssessed, why do you keep bringing up the same old subject?
ying
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:<bos7i...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> In article <vr377tg...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
>> >
>> >Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed.
>> >*shiver*
>>
>> how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry
>> newsgroup an "obsession"?
>>
> normally people just make their voice heard and leave it.
Which proves you are far from normal.
> if you were not
> obssessed, why do you keep bringing up the same old subject?
>
You mistake obsession (note the spelling) with patience. Jr tries to make
his point in order to clear up some misunderstandings about poetry. But if
you just wish to parrot your willie, just carry on then.
> ying
>
>> now if you want an obsession, it's posting to an original post of yours,
>> begging for comments. obsessive AND pathetic.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ "A
>> sad tale's best for winter: I have one Of sprites and goblins."
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
Because it is hard to find one that fits the rest of your ugly body.
Will Dockery
> > In article <vr377tg...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> > >
> > >Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed. *shiver*
> >
> > how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry newsgroup
> > an "obsession"?
> >
> normally people just make their voice heard and leave it. if you were
> not obssessed, why do you keep bringing up the same old subject?
>
> ying
>
> > now if you want an obsession, it's posting to an original post of yours, begging
> > for comments. obsessive AND pathetic.
Each post you make is essentiallly the same, since you repeat the same
words over and over, with hardly any changes. I repost the poem so
anyone reading this post can see the poem and make up their own minds.
You keep snipping it for the opposite reason. I think there's a Usenet
term for "derailing" a thread, and it happens with threads all over
Usenet. This is the truth about what's happening on this thread, or,
what you want to happen.
Will
Combat Zone
Driving through the combat zone
a rasta steps out,
sort of calling my name ---
a reasonable approximation.
Variation of my street name I guess.
Said he could take me to see Raine,
apparently the rastas have her locked up in a house
somewhere in the combat zone.
He wanted money for his information,
at which point I was to park and walk.
It seemed very sinister, but he smoothed it over fairly often.
I said I'd come back later,
when the bad vibes wore down.
Rasta gets crazy on me in the car,
wanting five dollars, two bucks, anything.
I give him nothing, just smoke and think.
He's got an ice pick in his hand,
then he makes like he's got a gun.
I'd already heard Raine was in jail
but i didn't expect a rasta jail.
The image crossed my mind how it would feel
if he jabbed that icepick into me
a couple of times or more.
Just curious to see if he'd do it or not,
could I stop him, I could tell he didn't know.
As we stare and talk about money.
I bummed a cigarette from him.
I told him I'd be in touch about seeing Raine.
He said, "Man, you crazy.", and walked off.
I went back home to think.
-Will Dockery 1997 (c)2002
Will Dockery
Subject: Re: Tuesday With Little Spain. by Will Dockery
Ehh....what's up Doc?
Not much, BGR200... how are you, this morning?
Will
> Combat Zone
>
> Driving through the combat zone
> a rasta steps out,
> sort of calling my name ---
> a reasonable approximation.
> Variation of my street name I guess.
> Said he could take me to see Raine,
> apparently the rastas have her locked up in a house
> somewhere in the combat zone.
> He wanted money for his information,
> at which point I was to park and walk.
> It seemed very sinister, but he smoothed it over fairly often.
> I said I'd come back later,
> when the bad vibes wore down.
> Rasta gets crazy on me in the car,
> wanting five dollars, two bucks, anything.
> I give him nothing, just smoke and think.
> He's got an ice pick in his hand,
> then he makes like he's got a gun.
> I'd already heard Raine was in jail
> but I didn't expect a rasta jail.
> The image crossed my mind how it would feel
> if he jabbed that icepick into me
> a couple of times or more.
> Just curious to see if he'd do it or not,
> could I stop him, I could tell he didn't know.
> As we stare and talk about money.
> I bummed a cigarette from him.
> I told him I'd be in touch about seeing Raine.
> He said, "Man, you crazy.", and walked off.
> I went back home to think.
>
> -Will Dockery 1997 (c)2002
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j r sherman
>news:<bos7i...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> In article <vr377tg...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
>> >
>> >Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed. *shiver*
>>
>>how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry newsgroup
>> an "obsession"?
>>
>normally people just make their voice heard and leave it. if you were
>not obssessed, why do you keep bringing up the same old subject?
>
>ying
well, i think it's important that people know that dockery posts unspeakable
shit. and since he keeps crossposting to new newsgroups all the time, it's even
more important.
i do this because i care about people, yingy.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
------------------------------------------------------------------
j r sherman
says...
>
>yyyiii...@yahoo.com wrote in message
>news:<670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com>...
>>j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:<bos7i...@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> > In article <vr377tg...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
>> > >
>> > >Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed. *shiver*
>> >
>>> how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry
>>newsgroup
>> > an "obsession"?
>> >
>> normally people just make their voice heard and leave it. if you were
>> not obssessed, why do you keep bringing up the same old subject?
>>
>> ying
>>
>>> now if you want an obsession, it's posting to an original post of yours,
>>begging
>> > for comments. obsessive AND pathetic.
>
>Each post you make is essentiallly the same, since you repeat the same
>words over and over, with hardly any changes.
hey, dockery, if someone's house is on fire, you don't stop for a moment and try
and think up new and clever ways of screaming "FIRE" do you?
well, you might, you're an idiot. but a smart person wouldn't. if i'm repeating
myself, it's because i have to.
perhaps there is a hope that someday you might understand?
nah, that will never happen. but i do this for others more so then i do it for
you.
>I repost the poem so
>anyone reading this post can see the poem and make up their own minds.
because you believe that people are not intelligent enough to find your original
post?
that's so lame, dockery. you do it to gains suckers to tell you your wonderful
or get flamed. either way, it's win-win for you. why must you lie about it?
>You keep snipping it for the opposite reason. I think there's a Usenet
>term for "derailing" a thread, and it happens with threads all over
>Usenet. This is the truth about what's happening on this thread, or,
>what you want to happen.
i snip your unspeakable shit because i care about people.
love and kisses,
j r sherman
------------------------------------------------------------------
Ironywaves
> I think he has a point there.
> Doc,
> recall my admonition,
> why it is you will never best Mr. sherman?
> mdc
Because we work in different areas, for one thing, Cook. I write poetry, and
he writes flames.
Will
Combat Zone
-Will Dockery 1997 (c)2003
http://groups.msn.com/ColumbusGAgettogether/dockeryatpoetryreading.msnw
j r sherman
>
>How would *you* know?
>Will
well, i would compare you to others who post poetry here.
you lose on that one.
i would compare you to teenagers who post poetry in other areas in the ether.
you again lose in the comparison.
i would compare you to the poetry that is written by the mentally challenged.
yep, you lose.
i would compare you to the random grocery lists i find outside of grocery
stores.
the grocery lists are much more poetic and creative then your unspeakable shit.
i would compare you to the scribblings done by monkeys as an experiment at UCSF.
the monkeys are better. really, they are.
i have compared you to the tiny electro-wave impulses given off by plant
life....
and have discovered that there is more creative thought and poetic ability from
the tiny electro-wave impulses in plant life than there is in your unspeakable
shit.
from this study there can only be one conclusion: in comparison to almost
anything, you're writing is unspeakable shit.
next week we start studying concrete and granite.... to see if concrete and
granite can produce better material then you.
i would not be hopeful if i were you.
j r sherman
yeah, thanks, Renay. i couldn't get that fucking song out of my head for the
entire year of 1983.
was i ever that young???
love and kisses,
j r sherman
>this.
>> why are you so resistant to reality?
>
>I don't know... tell me.
you're a pathetic loser with no talent and if you admitted to that truth you
would probably kill yourself?
this can be said even more so of chuckles...so you're not the only one. there's
some solace in that, don't you think???
Ironywaves
> given what we have to go on here, how do you know? i mean you can tell
yourself
> all you want that you're young and have a good paying job, and that's not
going
> to be the truth,
The same with your repeated opinions of my poetry.
Will
http://groups.msn.com/ColumbusGAgettogether/dockeryatpoetryreading.msnw
Ironywaves
news:bos74...@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com>,
> yyyiii...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
> >I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry.
>
> perhaps you are on heavy drugs?
>
> >Should you had
> >tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
> >line or two from Dockery.
>
> GOD, yingy, i didn't realize you hated me so much!
>
> >Am I lying?
>
> more like crazy, actually.
Here, JR... learn a line or two:
Dennis M. Hammes
>
> In article <2400cbfe.03111...@posting.google.com>, janet santana
> says...
> >
>
> >j r, even a man who has sex with a child, deserves more respect than you.
>
> so chuckles, are you saying that you've had sex with a child?
>
> that's a rather terrifying confession....
>
> when did this happen? have you attempted to make resititution to this child you
> had sex with, because it probably damaged the child forever.
>
> are you sure this is something you wish to admit in public? on-line? in front of
> everyone?
>
> i hope, for your sake, there are no police officers reading these newsgroups.
He's a travelling clothing salesman (with oval wheels).
He's "in boys' pants."
>
> i'm startled.
>
> j r sherman
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> "A sad tale's best for winter: I have one
> Of sprites and goblins."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
You've got to be able to look at your thoughts on paper
and discover what a fool you were. -- Ray Bradbury
http://scrawlmark.org
Dennis M. Hammes
>
> > I crosspost to get the poetry to a larger number of readers.
> > Will
>
> *****do it really well and readers will find you.
>
> Renay
What? Crosspost?
"...and readers will /fine/ you."
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
And the environment.
> love and kisses,
>
> j r sherman
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------ "A sad
> tale's best for winter: I have one Of sprites and goblins."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Dennis M. Hammes
Chuck blows Janet.
It makes her Big and Strong.
Although he didn't plan it,
Since he first began it,
She doesn't last so long.
Dennis M. Hammes
>
> In article <vr2hctm...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...> >> since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
> >shit that
> >> you call writing,
> >
> >*snip*
> >
> >I don't just "call" it writing, JRS, it *is* writing.
Hod whee, butt whirled he snuff and thyme,
Desk Oy! Ness, laity whirr no cry'm.
Whee, wood, shit townsend sink witch whey
Two Walken passer glove's slang Dai.
Dao buy the Yin dang and Jeeves hide,
Shoedust Rube, he's fine: die buy the tied
Dove hummer wood come plane. Eyewood
La view tenures be four taff Ludd,
Venue shoed, f. you pleas, re: fuse
Tilde con version "uffda" juice.
"Writing."
(I bet the Dockleberry won't get it...)
>
> but it's still unspeakable shit, right, dockery? we can at least agree on that,
> can't we?
>
> unspeakably, embarrassing shit. right?
>
> >It needs no defense.
>
> me thinks the middle aged pizza delivery guy doth protest too much.
>
> love and kisses,
>
> j r sherman
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> "A sad tale's best for winter: I have one
> Of sprites and goblins."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
deb
wretched, senseless, probably racist piece of non-poetry and you will
force me to get nasty. It's on you, bud.
dock...@yahoo.com (Will Dockery) wrote in message news:<bdb44a4f.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> yyyiii...@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> > j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<bos7i...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> > > In article <vr377tg...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> > > >
> > > >Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed. *shiver*
> > >
> > > how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry newsgroup
> > > an "obsession"?
> > >
> > normally people just make their voice heard and leave it. if you were
> > not obssessed, why do you keep bringing up the same old subject?
> >
> > ying
> >
> > > now if you want an obsession, it's posting to an original post of yours, begging
> > > for comments. obsessive AND pathetic.
>
> Each post you make is essentiallly the same, since you repeat the same
> words over and over, with hardly any changes. I repost the poem so
> anyone reading this post can see the poem and make up their own minds.
> You keep snipping it for the opposite reason. I think there's a Usenet
> term for "derailing" a thread, and it happens with threads all over
> Usenet. This is the truth about what's happening on this thread, or,
> what you want to happen.
> Will
>
<snip>
Ironywaves
"Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message
news:3FB27071...@arvig.net...
> "Renay St. James" wrote:
> > *****do it really well and readers will find you.
> >
> > Renay
>
> What? Crosspost?
> "...and readers will /fine/ you."
That is the purpose of crossposting, to reach readers that are not in the
same groups, get some interaction, and whatnot.
Will
http://groups.msn.com/ColumbusGAgettogether/dockeryatpoetryreading.msnw
I-Am-Not-Chuck
>
> "Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message
> news:3FB27071...@arvig.net...
> > "Renay St. James" wrote:
>
> > > *****do it really well and readers will find you.
> > >
> > > Renay
> >
> > What? Crosspost?
> > "...and readers will /fine/ you."
>
> That is the purpose of crossposting, to reach readers that are not in the
> same groups, get some interaction, and whatnot.
> Will
. . . and surprisingly enough, most of your interaction seems to consist of
"Please stop crossposting" or some variant, which you immediately either
dismiss or ignore.
-H
>
> http://groups.msn.com/ColumbusGAgettogether/dockeryatpoetryreading.msnw
>
>
Ironywaves
news:botns...@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <vr33qi7...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> >
> >"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> >
> >> you're in denial, will. you write unspeakable shit. you need to realize
> >this.
> >> why are you so resistant to reality?
> >
> >I don't know... tell me.
>
> you're a pathetic loser with no talent and if you admitted to that truth
you
> would probably kill yourself?
I suspect this is closer to *your* case, JRS.
Will
Ironywaves
> In article <cxjsb.129589$ao4.412230@attbi_s51>, Renay St. James sings...
> >comma comma
> >comma comma
> >comma commmediannnnnnn
> >Chuck Lysaght blows
> >Chuck Lysaght blooow-oooow-oooows
> >
> >*****ha! try getting *that* little ditty out of your head, eh?
> >BG is onstage somewhere right now. can't remember
> >the production, just know I heard it somewher.
> >
> >Renay
>
> yeah, thanks, Renay. i couldn't get that fucking song out of my head for
the
> entire year of 1983.
>
> was i ever that young???
Willie Nelson's duet with Boy George that year was a wierd one:
"Good Old Fashioned Karma Chameleon Going Down [On Me Again]"...
Ironywaves
> > my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why does
> > your poetry so matter to him?
He secretly wishes he had the balls to write and post poetry like I do. This
is the root of JRS' hatred, it's pretty obvious.
Will
Tuesday With Little Spain.
And I am shoved back into this night life.
Well, she said, she said, she said it was impossible.
There is a place, it smoulders, it is the past, dreamtime,
wander these dark corridors of memory.
I sleep so deep, I don't like to sleep,
my dreams threaten to take me away.
Floating in a sea of bad vibes, I do these things over and over,
repentatively, feel regret but keep doing it over and over.
Then the whole thing becomes a blur.
Grey and pasted, patched together with spackling
and sheet rock mud, a disgusted perversion of humanity.
During the decline and fall of poetry, in the summer of sardonic excess,
I sat with Little Spain on her steps, and felt her softness.
Still a sky poet, though tattered and glowing,
brought down from Blue Territory, no longer in Blue Territory.
I wandered by a cold river in the flaming copper land of summer.
This complete process of remaking we had, your mix of pales and shades,
your, disctinctive, mythic self, one distinct sing of your eyes...
I must bitterly understand our fate, we were never meant to be,
Like lost in the mirror'd rooms of a crazy house.
Crimson on the napkins,
pink fuzz on the clover.
Maneuver to the left, and forward,
into a mud soaked future.
-Will Dockery
http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Ironywaves
news:6323ce64f90a3795...@news.teranews.com...
>
> "Ironywaves" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message
> news:vr4u8o9...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Dennis M. Hammes" <scraw...@arvig.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FB27071...@arvig.net...
> > > "Renay St. James" wrote:
> >
> > > > *****do it really well and readers will find you.
> > > >
> > > > Renay
> > >
> > > What? Crosspost?
> > > "...and readers will /fine/ you."
> >
> > That is the purpose of crossposting, to reach readers that are not in
the
> > same groups, get some interaction, and whatnot.
> > Will
>
> . . . and surprisingly enough, most of your interaction seems to consist
of
> "Please stop crossposting" or some variant, which you immediately either
> dismiss or ignore.
>
> -H
Yeah, it's hilarious the way those people take the time to crosspost a
"don't crosspost" post..!
http://groups.msn.com/ColumbusGAgettogether/dockeryatpoetryreading.msnw
Ironywaves
news:ad3995b8.03111...@posting.google.com...
> Do you have a personality disorder? Seriously, keep posting this
> wretched, senseless, probably racist piece of non-poetry and you will
> force me to get nasty. It's on you, bud.
Racist? There's nothing racist in this poem... it was simply written exactly
as it happened... point out the racism for me, babe. And don't spare the
nasty, if that's your mood. Wretched, perhaps... but senseless, I don't see
it:
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> yyyiii...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> > my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why does
>> > your poetry so matter to him?
>
Do you write with your balls, willie?
Does that huurt?
Ironywaves
news:botnh...@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <vr33t0n...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> >
> >"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> >
> >> how would you know?
> >
> >How would *you* know?
> >Will
>
> well, i would compare you
*snip*
You're not competent enough to, or have any credibility, to compare poetry.
You lose.
Will
Ironywaves
> i snip your unspeakable shit because i care about people.
You lie.
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> Being tired of lurking, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:30:01 -0800, yyyiiinnngg
> posted:
>
> > j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:<bos7i...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> >> In article <vr377tg...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
> >> >
> >> >Excellent point, Ying. He does seem to be becoming... obsessed.
> >> >*shiver*
> >>
> >> how is pointing out to all that you write unspeakable shit on a poetry
> >> newsgroup an "obsession"?
> >>
> > normally people just make their voice heard and leave it.
>
>
> > if you were not
> > obssessed, why do you keep bringing up the same old subject?
> >
> his point in order to clear up some misunderstandings about poetry. But if
> you just wish to parrot your willie, just carry on then.
>
click da clit
>
> > ying
> >
> >> now if you want an obsession, it's posting to an original post of yours,
> >> begging for comments. obsessive AND pathetic.
> >>
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> yyyiii...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.11.12...@hotmail.com>...
> >
> >>Being tired of lurking, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:35:18 -0500, Ironywaves
> >>posted:
> >>
> >>
> >>><yyyiii...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com...
> >>>
> >>>>"Ironywaves" <irony...@knology.net> wrote
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One
> >>>>>>RAP troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, even tho I am not a
> >>>>>>member of AAPC.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry. Should you
> >>>>>>had tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have
> >>>>>
> >>>>>ying
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible, but he say that doesn't matter,
> >>>>>remember? Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but
> >>>>>that
> >>
> >> probably
> >>
> >>>>>doesn't count, either.
> >>>>>Will
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why does
> >>>>your poetry so matter to him?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Excellent point, Ying.
> >>
> >>On his head :-))))
> >>
> >
> > why don't you give me a head.
>
> why, you can't get any tail?
>
I cuz i was suppose to wait for yours get shown first.
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> Being tired of lurking, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:49 -0800, yyyiiinnngg
> posted:
>
I don't have prejudice against foreigners. I won't laugh at ye broken teeth.
Ironywaves
> > You mistake obsession (note the spelling) with patience. Jr tries to
make
> > his point in order to clear up some misunderstandings about poetry.
And I do likewise in response. So all is well.
Will
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/pjr/aapc/
Ironywaves
message news:pan.2003.11.12....@hotmail.com...
> posted:
>
> > yyyiii...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >> > my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why
does
> >> > your poetry so matter to him?
> >
> Do you write with your balls, willie?
> Does that huurt?
Many of my thoughts and ideas are generated from a mind/balls interaction.
Will
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> > You mistake obsession (note the spelling) with patience. Jr tries to
> make
>> > his point in order to clear up some misunderstandings about poetry.
>
> And I do likewise in response. So all is well. Will
>
monkey see, monkey do...
> http://pages.britishlibrary.net/pjr/aapc/
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> >> >wilderness of Usenet, JRS... in which JRS continues to see the world
> >> >through shit colored glasses. Here's the poem, comments and criticism
> >> >is welcomed:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
> >> even more newsgroups
> >
> > JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One RAP
> > AAPC.
> >
> > tried imitating him, instead of flaming him,
>
>
and monkey spanks you
> How original.
>
> >> in hopes of finding someone who will come tell you how wonderful you
> >> are?
> >>
> >> why must you constantly prove me right?
> >>
> >> love and kisses,
> >>
> >> j r sherman
> >>
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
From what country, O, yingliterate one?
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> yyyiii...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > "Ironywaves" <irony...@knology.net> wrote in message news:<vr2nsrk...@corp.supernews.com>...
> >
> >><yyyiii...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >>
> >>
> >>>>since there was no one in AAPC or RAP who would defend the unspeakable
> >>
> >> shit that
> >>
> >>>>you call writing, you've now crossposted this excrement to even more
> >>
> >>newsgroups
> >>
> >>
> >>>JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One RAP
> >>>AAPC.
> >>>
> >>>I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry. Should you had
> >>>tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
> >>>line or two from Dockery. Am I lying?
> >>
> >>ying
> >>
> >>Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible, but he say that doesn't matter, remember?
> >>Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but that probably
> >>doesn't count, either.
> >>Will
> >>
> >
> > my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why does
> > your poetry so matter to him?
>
> automatically become the enemy of any fight against illiteracy.
>
you should talk foreigner, i yet to see any literature from you.
>
> > ying
> >
> >
> >
> >>http://www.amber-kaye.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=199&pid=675
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
Do you serve yours with lice or with flies?
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> In article <670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com>,
> yyyiii...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
> >I said, some of Will's poetry was indeed worthy poetry.
>
>
nothing hard and irresistible like yours.
> >Should you had
> >tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
> >line or two from Dockery.
>
> GOD, yingy, i didn't realize you hated me so much!
>
i don't hate you jr. I actually like you to some extent. the truth is
will practices more poetry than you do, that's evident.
> >Am I lying?
>
> more like crazy, actually.
>
why do you hate me so much? you keep saying i am crazy for like a
whole year now. happy thanksgiving JR.
ying
yyyiii...@yahoo.com
> Being tired of lurking, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:35:18 -0500, Ironywaves
> posted:
>
> > <yyyiii...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:670584bc.03111...@posting.google.com...
> >> "Ironywaves" <irony...@knology.net> wrote
>
> >> > > JR, who says "No One In AAPC or RAP..."? I am listed as Number One
> >> > > RAP troll, and probably No. 5 Troll in AAPC, even tho I am not a
> >> > > member of AAPC.
> >> > >
> >> > > had tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have
> >> > ying
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, JRS' poetry is terrible, but he say that doesn't matter,
> >> > remember? Actually, his flames leave a lot to be desired, as well, but
> >> > that
> probably
> >> > doesn't count, either.
> >> > Will
> >> >
> >> my problem is not with his poetry that doesn't matter to him. why does
> >> your poetry so matter to him?
> > ying
> >
> > Excellent point, Ying.
>
> On his head :-))))
>
Ironywaves
> > more like crazy, actually.
> >
> why do you hate me so much? you keep saying i am crazy for like a
> whole year now. happy thanksgiving JR.
ying
Traditionally, crazy people have a habit of calling other people crazy. I
think this may be the case, here.
Will
j r sherman
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:botns...@drn.newsguy.com...
>> In article <vr33qi7...@corp.supernews.com>, Ironywaves says...
>> >
>> >"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> >
>> >> you're in denial, will. you write unspeakable shit. you need to realize
>> >this.
>> >> why are you so resistant to reality?
>> >
>> >I don't know... tell me.
>>
>> you're a pathetic loser with no talent and if you admitted to that truth
>you
>> would probably kill yourself?
>
>I suspect this is closer to *your* case, JRS.
sorry, dockery, tis not i who imagines himself to be a "great" "poet". also, tis
not i who is pretending to be something i am not.
and most of all, tis not i who is crossposting unspeakable shit to non-topic
newsgroups in a pathetic need for attention.
oh sure, i could be a loser in other ways, but i am not a loser in all the
dockery ways. which does set me above you in basic loser ways.
it's really that simple.
j r sherman
>>
>>
>> >tried imitating him, instead of flaming him, you would have learned a
>> >line or two from Dockery.
>>
>>
>>
>> more like crazy, actually.
>
the ONLY way your unspeakable shit could help the poetry world is as examples of
what not to do when writing.
if you wish to take pride in this, that's up to you, of course.