"I Am The Darkness" -- Dan Barfield

[Faraway Star]

More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ

> I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:

> From Dan Barfield:
>
> "The earth runs
> through my veins
> Deep and black
> ancient memories
> ancient magic
> ...I am the reason
> you fear the darkness
> I am
> the darkness"

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ

[Will Dockery]

I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:

It's always interesting to examine the poetry of a "new" (new to me, that is) writer at AAPC. And, I would like to clarify that my review of this poem would be every bit as scathing if Mr. Barfield were a member -- and even if he were a member on my "team."

I can only note that this poem was written almost a quarter century ago, and express my hope that Mr. Barfield has matured as a writer since that time.

That said... this is stereotypical Gothboi posturing.

The extent to which the closing lines "I am/the darkness" has become a cliché can be evidenced by googling the line. Hell, it's the title of a movie, numerous songs, memes, and has even become a T-shirt.

Grammatically, it's incompetent with run-on non-sentences composed of strung-together thought fragments.

Dan Barfield is apparently one of the founding fathers (if not *the* founding father) of Fragmentist Poetry.

Why is the poem in quotation marks?

Why is "Deep" capitalized when there is no end punctuation to show that it's a new sentence?

How can one both be a thing, and be the reason that one fears said thing -- without so much as hinting at what the reason might be?

We all want to be the "darkness" -- the embodiment of the subconscious urges exemplified by our "Shadow" and "Id." We all want to be in tough with the primordial magick that formed the spiritual life of our ancient ancestors... even if we're just your average schmucks indulging in sex, drugs, and rock and roll. And, if Mr. Barfield's poem were actually making that point, it would at least have some claim to being relevant.

Unfortunately, it just reads like a nerdy high school kid showing off to his equally nerdy "Goth" friends.

[W.Dockery]

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
>> More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
>> :
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
>>
>> > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
>> > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
>>
>> > From Dan Barfield:
>> >
>> > "The earth runs
>> > through my veins
>> > Deep and black
>> > ancient memories
>> > ancient magic
>> > ...I am the reason
>> > you fear the darkness
>> > I am
>> > the darkness"
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ

> It's always interesting to examine the poetry of a "new" (new to me, that is) writer at AAPC. And, I would like to clarify that my review of this poem would be every bit as scathing if Mr. Barfield were a member -- and even if he were a member on my "team."

> I can only note that this poem was written almost a quarter century ago, and express my hope that Mr. Barfield has matured as a writer since that time..

> That said... this is stereotypical Gothboi posturing.

> The extent to which the closing lines "I am/the darkness" has become a cliché can be evidenced by googling the line. Hell, it's the title of a movie, numerous songs, memes, and has even become a T-shirt.

> Grammatically, it's incompetent with run-on non-sentences composed of strung-together thought fragments.

> Dan Barfield is apparently one of the founding fathers (if not *the* founding father) of Fragmentist Poetry.

> Why is the poem in quotation marks?

> Why is "Deep" capitalized when there is no end punctuation to show that it's a new sentence?

> How can one both be a thing, and be the reason that one fears said thing -- without so much as hinting at what the reason might be?

> We all want to be the "darkness" -- the embodiment of the subconscious urges exemplified by our "Shadow" and "Id." We all want to be in tough with the primordial magick that formed the spiritual life of our ancient ancestors.... even if we're just your average schmucks indulging in sex, drugs, and rock and roll. And, if Mr. Barfield's poem were actually making that point, it would at least have some claim to being relevant.

> Unfortunately, it just reads like a nerdy high school kid showing off to his equally nerdy "Goth" friends.

Written in 1996-97, it was probably more influenced by the "Grunge" era of artists.

[Faraway Star]

Here is a review of that poetry chapbook from the 1997 days of yore:

https://alt.zines.narkive.com/z8pOq2CQ/shadowville-1996-zine-review-found-in-archives

***************************** ZINE REVIEWS
by holy joe

Dreamgirls with Shaman, No. 54, $1.00. Minicomic, 32 pages. Will
Dockery, [P.O.Box 7394, Columbus GA 31908].

Review: First, the truth. My review copy of Dreamgirls with
Shaman is only eight pages in length. However, Dockery has prepared
"for sale" copies that are 32 pages long. I misplaced the letter in
which he details exactly what these issues consist of, but they are the
issue reviewed (below) plus extra issues, all bundled into a generous
package of poems and comics.
Back in the early 1980's minicomic-maker Matt Feazell pioneered
the ‘minicomic for a quarter' concept. A stamp cost 22 cents (never
mind the envelope), but somehow the whole thing could arrive in the
reader's hands for a quarter. Many of us, including myself, were
inspired to labor in this genre.
Then the price of a stamp rose to 25 cents. It became rather
difficult for a publisher like myself to sell an eight-page minicomic
for a quarter. Some minicomic publishers raised the price of their
minicomics to 50 cents. In doing so, they raised the page count of
their minicomics to 16 pages.
The tradition continues. Charging $1.00, Dockery is offering
his poetry and comics for the same price he would have charged you in
1983! 32 pages for $1.00, which works out to 25 cents for every eight
pages.
Dreamgirls with Shaman is a long-running title dating back to
the previous decade. Originally it was titled Shaman. There was a
separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the
two merged. Now the two have parted company. For the moment the
hybrid-title remains, perhaps to adorn future issues, perhaps not.
Dreamgirls with Shaman is currently on an annual publication
schedule. This is the new issue. It is for the year 1997 but, since
Dockery never made an issue in 1996, it could be considered the 1996
issue, although the art and poems in it didn't actually exist in 1996.
Perhaps later Dockery will put out an official 1996 issue containing art
and poems that couldn't exist in 1996, because they were created in
1997.
Such is the way of small press publishing. The cover of this
issue of Shaman (with Dreamgirls) features Dockery's bizarre art on the
cover. Worrisomely close to Florida, home of Mike Diana, there resides
a whole school of ‘bizarro' artists. Will Dockery, Dan Barfield, P.D.
Wilson, Carol Horn, and others. This loosely-knit community of artists
is as odd in geography as it is in its artistic visions. It spans the
state line that divides Georgia from Alabama, populating both states
and, often, both states at once in the same day. It produces such
oddball gems as the current cover of Shaman.
Here, on the cover, we see a beak-faced man. He wears a hat
but no pants. He has a visible pair of testicles and he appears to be
directing a host of girls with a baton-sized penis. The girls, as they
dance, with cunts and breasts on display, sprinkle dollar bills, hearts,
and peace signs across the cover. Above this weird male/female
assemblage loom two heads. Each head contains only one eye but two
pairs of lips. Certainly this is a cover worth the notice of a Florida
district attorney. Perhaps this $1.00 comic can spawn a $100,000 trial.
Meantime, Dockery will eagerly accept your dollar. Currently
he's down on his luck. He'd be homeless, but an absent in-law has
(perhaps unwittingly) permitted him to live in a vacant mansion in a
yuppified section of town. Despite the wealth of Dockery's
surroundings, the mansion he's living in has no electricity. The water
has also been cut off. Hence, the grounds of the mansion have become
Dockery's toilet. I asked him recently in a (self-funded) telephone
call how he managed to relieve himself.

me: I suppose you don't just hold it?
dockery: No. I let it out just like everybody else does.
me: How?
dockery: Well, to pee, you just go out back and pee.
me: How about to poop?
dockery: For that, you dig a hole. Then you poop into the
hole and cover it up.

Dockery has learned to cook food over a fire, in the fireplace
of the mansion. This, I admit, sounded pretty great, living by
firelight and candlelight in a mansion, eating food cooked over a fire.
Wouldn't you know, of course, Dockery even has a girlfriend to keep him
company in such circumstances. And, together, they make art.

I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:

From Dan Barfield:

"The earth runs
through my veins
Deep and black
ancient memories
ancient magic
...I am the reason
you fear the darkness
I am
the darkness"

From Lisa Scarboro:

"Words shared
among friends
...voice after
voice echoes
like feelings"

From Rick Duffey:

"There's a spider in our warehouse somewhere
who keeps making webs
in all the worst places & she does this
overnight
webs of immense size
bigger than pillow cases
big enough to capture chess pieces
they only appear after five in the evening
& eight the next morning, punched in,
when we've got sleep under our lids
& sip at the cooled edges of
styrofoam coffee we always discover them.
We've never seen this spider in person
but opinions abound
it's a big one says Mike...
& she's red with yellow stripes--her name is
probably Amanda
(I say)
she tells fortunes to the other spiders
her name means ‘worthy of being loved'
her bite is poisonous with no puncture marks
she seeks out the crevasses of skin
attracted by the warmth
of your body
scratch an itch there
only if you must"

On the back page of this minicomic I was delighted to see new
comix by John Jones. He's been drawing his Retros comix for years. At
first I was fairly dismissive of them (back in the 80's). But like fine
wine they have grown on me. I have a deep appreciation for them now,
perhaps born of their intrinsic merit, perhaps born of nostalgia. Can
one ever be sure about such things? I feel nostalgia for Gilligan's
Island too.
Will Dockery produces a similar line of comix (not present in
this issue), titled Demon House Theatre. Suddenly I find myself
wondering, with regard to Dockery's comics, and Jones', and even
Wilson's and Horn's, "Has all their work been saved?" "Is there some
way it could be collected and displayed?"
Once you develop an appreciation for what they are creating it
becomes quite addictive. It's strange art, visual poetry, really, for
it ‘makes no sense' to the DC and Marvel-trained eye. But once you let
go of your preconceptions of what art ‘should' and, indeed, ‘must' be,
you find yourself in a new realm. Their art is unique; a strange blend
of human, mystical, and even superheroic creatures. And, like I said,
there is a whole school of them, all cross-pollinating each other, all
living in the same locale.
And all dangerously close to Disneyfied Florida. *************************

Quite interesting piece of small press history...

[W.Dockery]

> ....I am the reason

> you fear the darkness
> I am
> the darkness"

> From Lisa Scarboro:

> "Words shared
> among friends

> ....voice after

Good find, Zod.

[Michael Pendragon]

LOL! So Dan's poem appeared in one of your publications. Go figure.

The phone interview describing your "bathroom" habits at the time is always good for a few laughs.

[Will Dockery]

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 8:34:25 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:

It was edited by me, published by Andrew Roller, if my memory serves me well.

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
>

Barfield said today:

"Whoa, took myself way too seriously !"

I replied:

"It was the era. Everyone was Gothic and Grunge."

🙂

[ME]

Why doesn’t barfield post here?

[Will Dockery]

I don't know.

[ME]

Why not?
I thought you were best buds.

[Will Dockery]

Sure, we've been friends since 1975.

[W.Dockery]

> ....I am the reason

> you fear the darkness
> I am
> the darkness"

> From Lisa Scarboro:

> "Words shared
> among friends

> ....voice after

Great times, so long ago.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/265768823538566/permalink/6651974594917925/?mibextid=Nif5oz

[Will Dockery]

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 8:34:25 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:

> The phone interview describing your "bathroom" habits at the time is always good for a few laughs.

It was an interesting time, 1997.

[Faraway Star]

Tell Barfield that I said hello..!

[W.Dockery]

Definitely will.

🙂

[Will Dockery]

"It was the best of times..."

Hell, those days were /all/ pretty good.

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

Yes, nothing like squatting in the vacant "mansion" of an ex-in-law, and pooping in the yard like a dog.

[Will Dockery]

It was an interesting time, I'll grant you.

[Michael Pendragon]

It was neither "interesting," nor "pretty good."

It was what most of us would consider to be the nadir of our existence -- except that none of us have ever sunk so low.

[Will Dockery]

You weren't there.

[Michael Pendragon]

Your interview, posted above, says it all.

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:38:51 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:25:37 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:22:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:07:42 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:03:47 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 3:10:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:56:04 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "The earth runs
> > > > > > > through my veins
> > > > > > > Deep and black
> > > > > > > ancient memories
> > > > > > > ancient magic
> > > > > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > the darkness"

It's an obvious joke.

Lighten up.

[Michael Pendragon]

It's not a joke, Will.

And it's in keeping with the rest of your life (as revealed in your posts and your "poetry").

You're looking back at your youth through rose-colored glasses, and remembering Paris cafes in the 1920s, in place of grubby Columbus bars, 20 cent tacos, and tenements in Atlanta and Columbus. In your delusions, you've elevated a bunch of untalented, unemployed, drug-fueled high school drop-outs into a Lost Generation of poets, writers, musicians and artists.

I appreciate your attempt to mythologize your life: we all do that to some extent, and the prospect of a common man turning his life into an epic poem is the stuff that great literature is made of.

Unfortunately, you lack the intellect, the wit, and the education (a basic understanding of grammar) to bring it off. You also lack a suitable protagonist and supporting cast.

"Will Dockery" (the literary character of your "Mythos") is a shallow, self-centered, narcissistic, immoral oaf -- whose "epic" life is centered around booze, drugs, whores, and affairs with assorted trailer trash.

Even Kerouac didn't have the gall to present his sleaze-ball life as an epic poem.

Still I applaud your attempt to create meaning (however illusory) out of the dregs of human existence.

But don't try to pass your delusions off as reality. Columbus has never been a community of lost artists, and you and your friends have never been more than a pack of doped up redneck illiterates... who squatted in vacant buildings and pooped in the yard like a dog.

[General-Zod]

Not to mention that it tells of events that happened nearlt thirty years ago...!

[Michael Pendragon]

Um... we were discussing whether "those days" (nearly thirty years ago) were "the best of times."

[Faraway Star]

It truly depends on the perspective and the individual involved, Pen...

You should know that at your age..!

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:25:12 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:

Exactly, times change.

[Michael Pendragon]

"The best of times" means that there were no other times in Will's life that were better.

"Best" is an absolute. "Best" is better than everything else.

If someone says that "the best of times" was when he was squatting in his former in-law's "mansion" -- without heat, gas, running water, or electricity, which necessitated his pooping in the yard like a dog... it makes one wonder how unbelievably terrible the rest of his life must have been.

But as you've pointed out, it's all relative. From the perspective of a man who's spent the last 6 or 7 years living under a piece of tarp (in what appears to be a dump), squatting in a "mansion" must seem the height of elegance.

[W.Dockery]

>> > > >> > > > > > > separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls.. Eventually the

In some ways, that's true, the Dickens quote applies well


HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

Like I said, if being homeless (squatting in an empty "mansion" without heat, electricity, gas, or running water) and pooping in the yard like a dog constitutes "the best of times for you," you have my deepest sympathy.

[Will Dockery]

There was plenty of heat, as long as I had a supply of firewood.

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

That's nice, Donkey.

And let me guess... the "mansion" was so luxurious compared to the tenement apartments you'd been renting (and subsequently bilking your landlords out of their rent) that you thought you'd died and gone to Heaven.

[Will Dockery]

It did have some good moments.

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

What can I say, Donkey. It seems that squatting in an empty house without heat, electricity, gas, or running water really was "the best of times" for you.

You poor sonofabitch.

[Will Dockery]

> It seems that squatting in an empty house without heat, electricity, gas, or running water really was "the best of times" for you

"It was the best of times and the worst of times."

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

The downside doesn't diminish your claim that it was simultaneously "the best of times."

Funny how after all the tear shedding (crocodile var.) you do over your late wife, she wasn't even a part of your "best of times."

[Will Dockery]

That's why they were the best of times and the worst of times.

My poetry tells the story, if you want more details:

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/?m=1

HTH and HAND.

[roach]

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 6:58:24 PM UTC-7, ME wrote:

> On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 21:29:42 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > >
> > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > :
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > >
> > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > >
> > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > >
> > > > "The earth runs
> > > > through my veins
> > > > Deep and black
> > > > ancient memories
> > > > ancient magic
> > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > I am
> > > > the darkness"
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ

> > Barfield said today:
> >
> > "Whoa, took myself way too seriously !"
> >
> > I replied:
> >
> > "It was the era. Everyone was Gothic and Grunge."
>
>
>
> >

> Why doesn’t barfield post here?

he's too busy masturbating over my photos.

[Will Dockery]

Barfield is definitely impressed over your plans for the new year celebration, Rosh Hashanah and the "Days of Awe" before Yom Kippur.

I told him about the mystery delivery coming soon.

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

So they were the best of times because you were squatting... both in the empty house and over a hole in the backyard; and the worst of times because you squatting with some homeless skank ho instead of your wife?

[Will Dockery]

No, not really.

> ... both in the empty house and over a hole in the backyard; and the worst of times because you squatting with some homeless skank ho instead of your wife?

No, not really.

🙂

[Faraway Star]

Sounds of interest... tell me more...!

[W.Dockery]

I'll fill you in when I see you again.

[Michael Pendragon]

The above is yet another example of Will Donkey using AAPC as his personal message board.

[Will Dockery]

Not really.

🙂

[Faraway Star]

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 3:51:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:

Of you trolling, Pen..?

Yes, you do seem to love to troll people... ha ha.

[Faraway Star]

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:56:04 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> >
> > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > :
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> >
> > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> >
> > > From Dan Barfield:
> > >
> > > "The earth runs
> > > through my veins
> > > Deep and black
> > > ancient memories
> > > ancient magic
> > > ...I am the reason
> > > you fear the darkness
> > > I am
> > > the darkness"
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ

> I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.

You are dog gone right...

[Faraway Star]

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:38:48 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:

Really...?

Luck guy, that Barfield..!

[W.Dockery]

roach wrote:

> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
>>
>> > > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
>> > > > :
>> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
>> > > >
>> > > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
>> > > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
>> > > >
>> > > > > From Dan Barfield:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "The earth runs
>> > > > > through my veins
>> > > > > Deep and black
>> > > > > ancient memories
>> > > > > ancient magic
>> > > > > ...I am the reason
>> > > > > you fear the darkness
>> > > > > I am
>> > > > > the darkness"
>> > > >
>> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
>> > > Barfield said today:
>> > >
>> > > "Whoa, took myself way too seriously !"
>> > >
>> > > I replied:
>> > >
>> > > "It was the era. Everyone was Gothic and Grunge."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > Why doesn’t barfield post here?
>>
>> he's too busy masturbating over my photos.

You sent Barfield a photo?

[Will Dockery]

> Lucky guy, that Barfield..!

Yes, he even has Nancy Gene and Cujo stalking him now.

🙂

[W-Dockery]

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:

> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:56:04 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 7:43:27 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
> > >
> > > More Dan Barfield poetry from Mar 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM
> > > :
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ
> > >
> > > > I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> > > > well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
> > >
> > > > From Dan Barfield:
> > > >
> > > > "The earth runs
> > > > through my veins
> > > > Deep and black
> > > > ancient memories
> > > > ancient magic
> > > > ...I am the reason
> > > > you fear the darkness
> > > > I am
> > > > the darkness"
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.zines/c/5h6FlXRC1Lw/m/l4hS6v36fUoJ

> > I remember this one well. 1997 was a great year for local art and poetry.

> separate title (by me) called Naughty Naked Dreamgirls. Eventually the

> I was quite impressed by this issue. The poems were quite
> well-written, in my opinion. Here's a sampling:
>
> From Dan Barfield:
>
> "The earth runs
> through my veins
> Deep and black
> ancient memories
> ancient magic
> ...I am the reason
> you fear the darkness
> I am
> the darkness"

Indeed and when it comes to art in the deep south, even our artwork likes them young if you know what I mean.

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:38:44 PM UTC-4, fake W-Dockery forged:

^^^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^^

Obvious impostor troll post ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Faraway Star]

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 9:38:44 PM UTC-4, FAKE Dockery FORGED:

> Indeed and when xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Begone, forging fool...!

[rachel]

how young? and for how long? and how did it end?

i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)

[Faraway Star]

That was a forging troll, Rachel, pay him no mind...!

That is all...!

[rachel]

just french kissing i think.....or maybe i fondled their genitals, too, i can't recall....this was before i had blossomed, and knew about sex....well, maybe blossomed is NOT the right word...

real complete sex (finishing) didn't come until college....

[Will Dockery]

Forgery by an impostor troll ^^^^^^^^^^^^

> > > Begone, forging fool...!
> > how young? and for how long? and how did it end?
> >
> > i know i did one-night stands at age 13 with older young men...it was hot. the older the hotter..... :)
> just french kissing i think.....or maybe i fondled their genitals, too, i can't recall....this was before i had blossomed, and knew about sex....well, maybe blossomed is NOT the right word...
>
> real complete sex (finishing) didn't come until college....

It was a forgery, Rachel, I didn't write it.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

Please look up "forgery," Donkey, and stop making a jackass of yourself.

And FWIW, the impostor appears to have been paraphrasing you:

"Well, most kids from my era were getting it on by that age (13-14) or even earlier, myself included, but with each other, folks of a similar age… True, we do things somewhat differently down South."
-- Will Dockery, on the normalcy of sex with adolescents “down South.”

[Will Dockery]

It was an impostor troll using my name and identity , as well as a stolen photograph of me.

Close enough to a forgery / identity theft for me.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

Jackass.

[Will Dockery]

Says Pendragon, the delusional fuckwit monkey.

🙂

[Will Dockery]

He must since that's just about all he does.

[Will Dockery]

The skip and ignore policy is probably the best move here, actually.

[Jordy C]

Yeah, skip, ignore and report works well… don’t *always* follow that guideline, but nevertheless, generally do…

[Will Dockery]

I try to avoid the most malicious and nasty troll threads, usually started by either Nancy Gene or Michael Pendragon

Sometimes I'll move posts from the troll thread and respond to them elsewhere, example below:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:05:52 PM UTC-4, Jordy C wrote:
>
> When Robert was last here, he was pleasantly and refreshingly and pleasingly apologetic and conciliatory in regard to his small part in the arguments and fights and conflicts and acrimony constantly occurring here.. it is rather sad to see that he has seemingly abandoned this conciliatory stance…

Hello Jordy, Robert has tended to show a bit of a split personality here over the years.

And so it goes.

[General-Zod]

He's a strange bird, that Robert B...

[Faraway Star]

Hi J.C.

You are correct, and well put...

[Jordy C]

hi there, thank you, FS...

[Will Dockery]

No doubt about that.

[Faraway Star]

Good day, how'd do, J.C. ~~?

[Jordy C]

hey there, FS

[Will Dockery]

Good afternoon Jordy and Zod, hope y'all are having a good one.

🙂

[Jordy C]

Thank you, same to you

[Will Dockery]

Hello there my friend.

[Jordy C]

Shalom Will

[Will Dockery]

> Shalom Will

Good morning again, Jordy, great to see a friendly face here today.

🙂

[Gregory Morrow]

Will Dockery wrote:
> Good morning again, Jordy, great to see a friendly face here today.
>
>
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[Jordy C]

bonjour, Will

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Gregory Morrow <g...@home.net> wrote in
news:uf46r4$2pjl1$1...@paganini.bofh.team:

Jordy makes Loafhead look smart. Dreckery makes Jordy look smart.

It's practically a circle jerk.

--
"I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.

[Will Dockery]

Hello there my friend.

🙂

[Jordy C]

hola Will

[Will Dockery]

> > Good morning again, Jordy, great to see a friendly face here today
>

> hola Will

Hello there my friend.

[Jordy C]

Shalom Will

[Faraway Star]

Hi there..!!

[Will Dockery]

Hello there Jordy, once a week in Barfield's English class he had a "think on your feet day" where each student would stand in front of the class and Barfield would toss a topic at them. Excellent education from that guy.

🙂

[rachel]

no wonder you excelled then, the way you are good at rapping off the top of your head.

my friend natalie can do that, too. she surprised me once, it just came out of the blue, that she felt inspired to do that. it was really impressive, same as your stuff, will, that you have shared with aapc.

she's highly verbal, having worked at an encyclopedia in her younger years, and being a voracious reader. but sometimes she uses a word in an inappropriate context, and i get a little embarrassed. sometimes she uses good sounding words i don't know, though, so it evens out. (more in my favor, but whatever). shows she's trying, she really likes words, too, apparently.

[Will Dockery]

Yes, it was a good start.

🙂

[General-Zod]

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > company in such circumstances.. And, together, they make art.

Cool... hi there Rachel..!

[rachel]

jew !

[Will Dockery]

Good evening my friend, great to see you again here tonight.

[Jordy C]

bonjour, Will

[Will Dockery]

Hope you're having a good morning so far. Jordy.

🙂

[Jordy C]

thank you, same to you

[Will Dockery]

> > > > Good evening my friend, great to see you again here tonight.
> > > bonjour, Will
> > Hope you're having a good morning so far. Jordy.
> >
>
> thank you, same to you

Hello again my friend.