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[Gallaxial]

Links for Research

This page contains a set of links to sites and resources which will
help expand

The links are sectioned into categories - Essentials, Basics, Poets,
Books, Wor

Essentials

Bob's Byway - A glossary of Poetic Terms
What is meter? Slant rhyme? A sonnet? A villanelle? Iambic pentameter?
A dactyl
Dictionary.Com
Simple, but effective, for quick lo ok-ups. You'll have your own
favourite for
Encyclopedia Britannica
Useful for searching for well-known poets, forms, and general research.
Representative Poetry Online
Excellent browsing resource to get an overview of the English-speaking
canon in
Basics & Writing Guides

Form & Meter
Some useful information about the basics of form and meter.
Sonnets
An extensive collection of sonnet-related information and examples
GrammarBook
Useful information on the fundamentals of grammar, punctuation and
spelling. In
Online Writing Guide
Content-rich site about good writing. Intended as a guide for the
writing of ef
Poets

Based around a list of poets favoured by AAPC participants, the
following links

Guillaume Apollinaire
Margaret Atwood
W. H. Auden
Robert Burns
Elizabeth Barrett-Browning
Elizabeth Bishop
John Berryman
Joseph Brodsky
Robert Bly
Rupert Brooke
W. C. Bryant
William Blake
Paul Celan
Lucille Clifton
Lewis Carroll
Leonard Cohen
E. E. Cummings
Billy Collins
Alan Dugan
Dante Alighieri
Idris Davies
John Donne
William Empson
T. S. Eliot
R. W. Emerson
Carolyn Forché
Forugh Farrokhzad
Robert Frost
Lawrence Ferlinghetti
Eamon Grennan
Allen Ginsberg
A. E. Housman
Anthony Hecht
Donald Hall
Geoffrey Hill
Gerard Manley Hopkins
Ralph Hodgson
Seamus Heaney
Tony Harrison
Ted Hughes
Zbginiew Herbert
Homer
Issa
Randall Jarrell
Jack Kerouac
Mimi Khalvati
Gerrit Kouwenaar
Rudyard Kipling
Daniil Kharms
Sidney Lanier
Denise Levertov
Federico Garcia Lorca
Dorianne Laux
Li Po
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Lucebert
Lyn Lifshin
Philip Larkin
Robert Lowell
Czeslaw Milosz
Hugh MacDiarmid
E. A. Markham
Edna St. Vincent Millay
John Milton
Osip Mandelstam
Pablo Neruda
Mary Oliver
Sean O'Brien
Michael Ondaatje
Sharon Olds
Wilfred Owen
Brian Patten
Janos Pilinszky
Octavio Paz
Sylvia Plath
Henry Reed
R. M. Rilke
Arthur Rimbaud
Theodore Roethke
Rumi
Anne Sexton
Dr. Seuss
Edmund Spenser
Frank Stanford
Mark Strand
Wallace Stevens
William Shakespeare
Dylan Thomas
R. S. Thomas
Alfred, Lord Tennyson
César Vallejo
Charles Wright
James Wright
Oscar Wilde
Walt Whitman
William Carlos Williams
W. B. Yeats
Yevgeny Yevtushenko
How-To Books

Clicking on the main link should take you to the relevant Amazon.Com
page. The

Sound and Sense - Lawrence Perrine & Thomas R. Arp [UK]
The New Book of Forms - Lewis Turco [UK]
A Poet's Guide to Poetry - Mary Kinzie: both discussion of technique
and practi
The Art and Craft of Poetry - Michael Bugeja: Writer's Digest Books --
this is
In the Palm of Your Hand - Steve Kowit [UK]
The Teacher's & Writer's Handbook of Poetic Forms - ed. by Ron Padgett
The New Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetry and Poetics - ed. Preminger
and Brogan
Patterns of Poetry - Miller Williams: excellent guide to all the verse
forms yo
Rules for the Dance & A Poetry Handbook - both by Mary Oliver: The
first covers
The Triggering Town - Richard Hugo: not real technical in its approach,
but one
Sound and Form in Modern Poetry - by Harvey Gross and Robert McDowell:
this is
Rhymes Reason - by John Hollander: a great little guide to verse forms.
Each ha
Sounds of Poetry - Robert Pinsky: In order to write good poems you have
to be a
The Poem's Heartbeat - Alfred Corn: A complete, well written guide to
prosody.
Missing Measures - Timothy Steele: a scholarly text more than anything.
Where d
Poetic Designs : an introduction to meters, verse forms, and figures of
speech
Workshops

When you need an alternative to AAPC - some other places where poetry
can be po

The Gazebo
You can often get very high levels of critique here, though newcomers
are often
Poetry Free For All
Béla Selendy's site. A very busy, free wheeling group that suffers a
bit from h
Eratosphere
Main focus is metrical poetry, though there is a second board for free
verse. T
Web Del Sol
Mixed bag
Copyright Issues

Berne Convention
Full text of the 1971 convention for the protection of literary and
artistic wo
World Intellectual Property Organization
International organisation 'promoting the use and protection of works
of the hu
International Federation of Reproduction Rights Organization
Deals with issues relating to copying & reproduction
Ten Myths about Copyright
Excellent quick guide to...well, what it says. Stops debates fast.
The Copyright Website
Deals with web-based issues of copyright

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[Will Dockery]

Good list of poets, perhaps with 2015 here, we should all take a Saturday afternoon and list our own favorites here?

I'll look for my list, others may follow suit.

--
Cirque Ecletrix w/ Gabe Holland & Will Dockery, Friday February 13th at Old SoHo in Columbus, GA. With special music, magic & art guests.

Gabriel Holland & Superczar
http://www.reverbnation.com/superczar

Will Dockery & @The Shadowville All-Stars
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

[Michael Pendragon]

On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 12:56:56 PM UTC-5, Gallaxial wrote:
> >

> > Based around a list of poets favoured by AAPC participants, ...

from 13 years ago.

> Good list of poets, perhaps with 2015 here, we should all take a Saturday afternoon and list our own favorites here?
>
> I'll look for my list, others may follow suit.

I agree with Will that it's high time for a new list.

So here's mine:

Edgar A. Poe
Walt Whitman
William Blake
Robert Herrick
Andrew Marvell
Algernon Charles Swinburne
Kevin N. Roberts
Edward Fitzgerald
William Ernest Henley
Eugene Field
Bliss Carman
Gertrude Hall
Robert L. Stevenson
John Keats
George Gordon, Lord Byron
Alfret, Lord Tennyson
Rudyard Kipling
Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Louise I. Webster
James Whitcomb Riley
Gerard Manley Hopkins

*Just off the top of my head, I'm sure I'm leaving off several other favorites.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> fuck off and die.

You first of course, you rude fool.

[Will Dockery]

Excellent start, I'm planning to post my "favorite poets of the last 100 years" here soon, tonight or tomorrow.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> You drink alcohol like an alcoholic fish

<snip>

No, you're lying again, because you've been informed enough times that I stopped drinking seven years ago, Peter.

<continued whining lies from PJR snipped>

[Michael Pendragon]

On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:24:26 AM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:15:45 -0800 (PST),

> You drink alcohol like an alcoholic fish, you smoke both legal and
> illegal drugs, and you're a few years older than I am.
>
> Moreover, "esti tis siōn tisis," as Alcman so economically puts it.
> There exists such a thing as divine retribution.
>
> Which of us is likely to die first, O thieving, lying, wife-and-
> child-abandoning, drunken, drug-addled scumbag?

In keeping with poetic justice, I figure you'll die of cancer in the not-too-distant future.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:36:14 AM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:16:56 -0800 (PST),

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 1:06:15 AM UTC-5, Michael Pendragon
> > wrote:
>

> <snip lits o' slurpy lurve>

Easy there, Peter. I've still got another week of "killfile" due me.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> The lits o' recommended poets on the AAPC

<snip>

Is out of date and needs to be revised with the opinions of the current regulars of alt.arts.poetry.comments.

Don't like that idea?

This being a Usenet newsgroup, there's not much you can do about it but whine and complain, as you usually do anyhow.

Just sayin'.

--
"Now begin in the middle, and later learn the beginning; the end will take care of itself." -Harlan Ellison

Cirque Ecletrix with Gabriel Holland, Will Dockery, Bryan Lee Brumbeloe, Charles Fowler & The Shadowville All-Stars (Jack Snipe, Rob Wright & Brian Mallard), Friday February 13th at Old Soho Bar in Columbus, GA. With special music, magic & art guests... and a surprise or two.
https://www.facebook.com/events/358034697713838/

[Will Dockery]

That's kind of the way of "Karma Bombs" as well, ironically.

[Will Dockery]

I have a feeling that imaginary killfile is ready to spring a leak... heh.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Contrastingly, all plagiarising scum are forbidden

<snip>

Oh come on, my little lying obsesso, you know you'd let your poetry
stealing, copyright infringing plagiarist pal Michael Cook in.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Defame much

That's what you were doing with your lying statement about me, so your projection is noted, lying hypocrite.

But anyone who reads your posts already knows that about you, PJR.

And so it goes.

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
news:63854a0c-3553-413c...@googlegroups.com...

A few names submitted by current alt.arts.poetry.comments Regulars (George
Dance & Corey Connor) for a Favorite Poets or rather, as the thread title
puts it, "Worthy Poets" list.

Emma Lazarus
Cathy Park Hong
Philip Levine
Jericho Brown
Amy Lowell
Marianne Moore
Sara Teasdale
Elinor Wylie

There is a longer list elsewhere which this one is an addition to, but might
as well add this one on now.

[Will Dockery]

"Michael Pendragon" wrote in message

And here was part one, 50 of my favorite poets of the last 100 years...

1.) E.E. Cummings
2.) Robert Frost
3.) Dylan Thomas
4.) T.S. Eliot
5.) Ezra Pound
6.) Jim Morrison
7.) Patti Smith
8.) Allen Ginsberg
9.) Jack Kerouac
10.) John Berryman
11.) Frank O'Hara
12.) Gregory Corso
13.) Pablo Neruda
14.) Charles Bukowski
15.) Lawrence Ferlinghetti
16.) Rod McKuen
17.) Carl Sandberg
18.) Anne Waldmann
19.) Bob Dylan
20.) Anne Sexton
21.) Leonard Cohen
22.) Sylvia Plath
23.) Carson McCullers
24.) William B. Yeats
25.) Edna St. Vincent Millay (newest poet on the list to me!)
26.) Rudyard Kipling
27.) Robert W. Service
28.) Leroi Jones aka Amiri Baraka
29.) Dale Houstman
30.) Phil Ochs
31.) Tom Snelling
32.) Stuart Leichter
33.) Seaborn Jones
34.) Gary Snyder
35.) Richard Brautigan
36.) Ken Nordine
37.) Shel Silverstein
38.) Dennis M. Hammes
39.) Ayn Rand
40.) Delmore Schwartz
41.) Lou Reed
42.) Robert Creeley
43.) Charles Olson
44.) Diane diPrima
45.) Robinson Jeffers
46.) Langston Hughes
47.) James Whitcomb Riley
48.) Robert Bly
49.) William Carlos Williams
50.) James Dickey
51.) Pete Matthiessen

I'm sending this over to rec.arts.poems and alt.poetry as well, to open this
up for all Usenet Poets, so chime in, comrades!

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in
news:slrnmbmnt...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:15:45 -0800 (PST),

> You drink alcohol like an alcoholic fish, you smoke both legal and
> illegal drugs, and you're a few years older than I am.
>
> Moreover, "esti tis siōn tisis," as Alcman so economically puts it.
> There exists such a thing as divine retribution.
>
> Which of us is likely to die first, O thieving, lying, wife-and-
> child-abandoning, drunken, drug-addled scumbag?

Did you forget "delusional"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"You have to be a criminal first before it would be criminal
tresspassing otherwise it is just tresspassing." - Ed the convict.

[Will Dockery]

Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in
> news:slrnmbmnt...@homeridae.org:
>

> > You drink alcohol like an alcoholic fish, you smoke both legal and
> > illegal drugs, and you're a few years older than I am.
> >
> > Moreover, "esti tis siōn tisis," as Alcman so economically puts it.
> > There exists such a thing as divine retribution.
> >
> > Which of us is likely to die first, O thieving, lying, wife-and-
> > child-abandoning, drunken, drug-addled scumbag?
>
> Did you forget "delusional"? Yeah, you did.

Considering every word PJR wrote was a lying misrepresentation of me and my life (except perhaps the ages, since I have no idea how old PJR is) I would think "delusional" might actually fit him better than me, along with a touch of obsession.

Just sayin'.

[Michael Pendragon]

Damn. I knew that I'd forgotten somebody.

[Will Dockery]

Mine only includes poets from "the last 100 years" so I'm missing quite a few of the old school poets, some of which you caught on yours.

More to come, everyone chime in, THIS is the official thyread and list for alt.arts.poetry.comments, not a nogus pretender who has zero support from the regulars here.

And so it goes!

[Will Dockery]

Favorite Poets of alt.arts.poetry.comments Regulars

Edgar A. Poe
> Walt Whitman
> William Blake
> Robert Herrick
> Andrew Marvell
> Algernon Charles Swinburne
> Kevin N. Roberts
> Edward Fitzgerald
> William Ernest Henley
> Eugene Field
> Bliss Carman
> Gertrude Hall
> Robert L. Stevenson
> John Keats
> George Gordon, Lord Byron

> Alfred, Lord Tennyson

> Rudyard Kipling
> Samuel Taylor Coleridge
> Louise I. Webster
> James Whitcomb Riley
> Gerard Manley Hopkins

Emily Dickinson
Susan Howe

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/article/249896

"Time is the school in which we learn,
Time is the fire in which we burn."
-Delmore Schwartz

Read more of "Calmly We Walk through This April's Day" at:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344#

> 41.) Lou Reed
> 42.) Robert Creeley
> 43.) Charles Olson
> 44.) Diane diPrima
> 45.) Robinson Jeffers
> 46.) Langston Hughes
> 47.) James Whitcomb Riley
> 48.) Robert Bly
> 49.) William Carlos Williams
> 50.) James Dickey
> 51.) Pete Matthiessen

All alt.arts.poetry.comments and/or Usenet Poetry regulars/readers are welcome to add to the "favorite poets" list, post here:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/bFRQ_62M0KA/AkQQQiTkLYIJ

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Did you forget "talentless"? Yeah, you did.

Thanks for giving your opinion... lucky for me that mopst people don't seem to agree with your biased judgement.

--
"I was born when you kissed me. I died when you left me. I lived a while when you loved me." -Humphrey Bogart

See The Shadowville All-Stars (Jack Snipe, Rob Wright & Brian Mallard) live & in person at Cirque Ecletrix with Gabriel Holland on Friday, February 13 at 9:00pm at Soho Bar & Grill - Columbus,Georgia. Check out "Chattahoochee Sunset" / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars - http://www.reverbnation.com/open_graph/song/11459910

[Will Dockery]

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon, 19 Jan 2015 03:18:19 -0800 (PST),

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Favorite Poets of alt.arts.poetry.comments Regulars

<bogus link snipped>

None of the current regulars are included in your list, PJR, which makes it, if not bogus then at the very least out of date.

Sorry, but that's the reality of it.

--

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> I can't understand why you don't kill yourself.

Because that's a stupid idea, but consider the source, I reckon.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> never tell the truth about anything

We know, but after seeing a decade of your hypocritical lies most of us are used to them by now, Peter.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> > In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon, 19 Jan 2015 03:18:19 -0800 (PST),
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Favorite Poets of alt.arts.poetry.comments Regulars
>
> <bogus link snipped>
>
> None of the current regulars are included in your list, PJR, which makes it, if not bogus then at the very least out of date.
>

Peter's living in the past. One supposes that fifteen years ago he hadn't yet realized the inevitability of his failure as a poet, translator, human being ...

[Will Dockery]

Yes, while the past is a great source of inspiration and nostalgia, 2015 is where it's at, and I personally anm ready to explore that undiscovered country.

--
"I was born when you kissed me. I died when you left me. I lived a while when you loved me." -Humphrey Bogart

See The Shadowville All-Stars (Jack Snipe, Rob Wright & Brian Mallard) live & in person at Cirque Ecletrix with Gabriel Holland on Friday, February 13 at 9:00pm at Soho Bar & Grill - Columbus,Georgia. Check out "Chattahoochee Sunset" / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars - http://www.reverbnation.com/open_graph/song/11459910

[Will Dockery]

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:38:48 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:26:07 -0800 (PST),
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Thanks for giving your opinion... lucky for me that most people

> > don't seem to agree with your biased judgement.
>

> Names?
>
> How many of them are

Sure, here are four that I have handy, and I can post a few dozen more, if you're that interested:

"Will Dockery's voice is unique and fantastic to me in a Spacerock context, some ambient type Spacerock is a riff that builds and changes sometime ever so slightly and is hypnotic. Psychedelic/Spacerock is not for everyone, Will always picks up o...n the flow of the song and slowly changes with us and spews a poetic beat vibe to it. The T.O.T.M. (Theatre Of The Mind) album will be a acquired taste, kinda like an Alien stew with wierd stuff in it and unrecognizable shapes and textures. Or like a Alien child coming out of a human and the suprised looks on the family and medical staff as they realize that this aint no ordinary baby. Basically this album is for the Lava lamp and the Colorwheels."
- Brian Fowler, T.O.T.M. (Theatre Of The Mind}

""...The Shadowville All-Stars and their insane menagerie of pickers, strummers, drummers, bangers, trumpeters, trombonists, chanters, singers, freaks, faux-Indian dancers [...] colorful costumed cacophony of chaos that rolled from the [...] stage out to the performance area and up the hill to the kitchen and on out over the pond before it dissipated into the ether..." -Katy Clyde, ChattyHoochee Mama

"In my opinion Will Dockery is easily one of the most authentic American poets around. A real coffeehouse poet who is not scared of mingling some real American elements such as country music into his poetry." -M.H.Benders
- Martijn Benders, Kannibaal.com

"...eclectic, imagery-laden, neo-beatific poems. Chain-smoking, spontaneously gesturing towards make-believe objects and addressing imaginary characters [...] gravel-throated limp, a rolling, bluesy romp in the swamp [...] pool halls, bridges, tragedies, lost love, relationships. "
- Larry Caddell, Columbus Community News

Again, I'll post a few more, later.

[Will Dockery]

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:

Critique of "Autograph of Zorro" / Peter J. Ross:

> Staggering drunkenly onto an open-mike-night stage; donning wooden
> shoes and a blindfold; slowly and clumsily searching all your pockets
> for cigarettes and the song lyrics cheat sheet: and all in preparation
> for bawling "Zaaaaaaah-rooooooooooow!" a few times and then posting a
> record of your drunken antics to the YouTubes, was possibly the
> stupidest idea that anybody genetically describable as approximately
> human has ever had, but that didn't stop you from doing it.

Thanks for the critique, PJR, although it looks like you just copy and paste the same one over and over, if it generates enough interest in the reader to want to have a look and find out for themselves, then I appreciate the publicity, although of course, you can only jealously whine your negativity about it.

Here, then, is the link, for those who want to think for themselves...

Check out "Autograph of Zorro / W. Dockery, H. Conley & M.H. Benders" - http://www.reverbnation.com/open_graph/video/12623336

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Thanks for implying that I ought to ask the current regulars of AAPC
> to make some suggestions

<snip>

Thanks for your kind offer but the a.a.p.c regulars have already got a basic list of poets up already, to be added to:

Favorite Poets of alt.arts.poetry.comments Regulars

All alt.arts.poetry.comments and/or Usenet Poetry regulars/readers are welcome to add to the "favorite poets" list, post here if you like, then, PJR.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/bFRQ_62M0KA/AkQQQiTkLYIJ

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmbt3l...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:26:35 +0000 (UTC),

> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>
>> Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in
>> news:slrnmbmnt...@homeridae.org:
>>
>>> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:15:45 -0800 (PST),
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> fuck off and die.
>>>>
>>>> You first of course, you rude fool.
>>>
>>> You drink alcohol like an alcoholic fish, you smoke both legal and
>>> illegal drugs, and you're a few years older than I am.
>>>
>>> Moreover, "esti tis siōn tisis," as Alcman so economically puts it.
>>> There exists such a thing as divine retribution.
>>>
>>> Which of us is likely to die first, O thieving, lying, wife-and-
>>> child-abandoning, drunken, drug-addled scumbag?
>>
>> Did you forget "delusional"? Yeah, you did.
>

> Did you forget "talentless"? Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "pathetic"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Orion is a star....." - Ed shocks astronomers the world over.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> You have no comrades

<snip>

You seem to be stalking the wrong "Will Dockery" again, fool.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Did you forget "unwashed"? Yeah, you did.

I'm several thousand miles from you... that's probably your upper lip you smell.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmbtnj...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:06:11 +0000 (UTC),

> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>
>> Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in
>> news:slrnmbt3l...@homeridae.org:
>>
>>> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:26:35 +0000
>>> (UTC), Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in
>>>> news:slrnmbmnt...@homeridae.org:
>>>>
>>>>> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:15:45 -0800
>>>>> (PST), Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fuck off and die.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You first of course, you rude fool.
>>>>>
>>>>> You drink alcohol like an alcoholic fish, you smoke both legal and
>>>>> illegal drugs, and you're a few years older than I am.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moreover, "esti tis siōn tisis," as Alcman so economically puts
>>>>> it. There exists such a thing as divine retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which of us is likely to die first, O thieving, lying, wife-and-
>>>>> child-abandoning, drunken, drug-addled scumbag?
>>>>
>>>> Did you forget "delusional"? Yeah, you did.
>>>
>>> Did you forget "talentless"? Yeah, you did.
>>
>> Did you forget "pathetic"? Yeah, you did.
>

> Did you forget "unwashed"? Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "HYDROCEPHALIC"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"You have trouble dealing with reality I see. You are one sick puppy."
- Edmond Wollkook shattering Irony Meters worldwide.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmbu21...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 21 Jan 2015 00:40:23 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "incapable of understanding cascading?" Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "incapable of composing snipku"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
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[Will Dockery]

On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 12:56:56 PM UTC-5, Gallaxial wrote:
>
> Based around a list of poets favored by Usenet Poetry participants, the
> following links
>
> W. H. Auden
> Robert Burns
> John Berryman
> William Blake
> Lewis Carroll
> Leonard Cohen
> E. E. Cummings
> Billy Collins
> John Donne
> T. S. Eliot
> R. W. Emerson
> Robert Frost
> Lawrence Ferlinghetti
> Allen Ginsberg
> Gerard Manley Hopkins
> Seamus Heaney
> Tony Harrison
> Ted Hughes
> Homer
> Jack Kerouac
> Rudyard Kipling
> Sidney Lanier
> Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> Lyn Lifshin
> Philip Larkin

I always got a bit of a kick out of Larkin's "Dockery and Son" poem:

"...'Dockery was junior to you,
Wasn't he?' said the Dean. 'His son's here now.'
Death-suited, visitant, I nod. 'And do
You keep in touch with--' Or remember how
Black-gowned, unbreakfasted, and still half-tight
We used to stand before that desk, to give
'Our version' of 'these incidents last night'?"
-Philip Larkin

Read more at:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/178052

> Edna St. Vincent Millay
> John Milton
> Pablo Neruda
> Sylvia Plath
> Arthur Rimbaud
> Rumi
> Anne Sexton
> Dr. Seuss
> William Shakespeare
> Dylan Thomas
> Alfred, Lord Tennyson
> Oscar Wilde
> Walt Whitman
> William Carlos Williams
> W. B. Yeats

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > I always got a bit of a kick out of Philip Larkin's "Dockery and Son" poem
>
> It's not about you

Of course not, it was written years before I was even born. But your whining about the obvious is noted, again.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmc227...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 21 Jan 2015 03:21:31 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "incapable of standing on a stage without swaying and
> wobbling?" Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "incapable of a sense of shame"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I do and have believed Dinosaurs were birds though, every since I was
about 6 years old or so." - Edmo shocks the scientific world with
another fascinating delusion from his childhood.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmc31j...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 22 Jan 2015 22:58:02 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "incapable of holding down a minimum-wage job"? Yeah,
> you did.

Did you forget "incapable of coherence"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

" I have already laid the foundation that there is no one truth,
therefore, there can be no "right or wrong" in universal terms" -Ed
Wollmann, sociopath and hypocrite.

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:39:57 AM UTC-5, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:36:14 AM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> > In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:16:56 -0800 (PST),
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 1:06:15 AM UTC-5, Michael Pendragon
> > > wrote:
> >
> > <snip lits o' slurpy lurve>
>
> Easy there, Peter. I've still got another week of "killfile" due me.

Heh... you forced him to keep pretending.

[Will Dockery]

Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > > List of poets favored by AAPC participants, ...
> I agree with Will that it's high time for a new list.
>
> So here's mine:

>
> Edgar A. Poe
> Walt Whitman
> William Blake
> Robert Herrick
> Andrew Marvell
> Algernon Charles Swinburne
> Kevin N. Roberts
> Edward Fitzgerald
> William Ernest Henley
> Eugene Field
> Bliss Carman
> Gertrude Hall
> Robert L. Stevenson
> John Keats
> George Gordon, Lord Byron

> Alfret, Lord Tennyson

> Rudyard Kipling
> Samuel Taylor Coleridge
> Louise I. Webster
> James Whitcomb Riley
> Gerard Manley Hopkins

I'll add:

Robert Frost
e.e. cummings
Dylan Thomas
Leonard Cohen
Jack Kerouac

For starters.

Anyone else this morning?

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> I'm tired of explaining

You mean you're tired of lying, right?

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmcaq7...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 02:23:32 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "incapable of driving a car legally"? Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "incapable of winning an argument"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Like a child embarrased in front of the class, you try to make the
threatening thing a "funny thing", so as not to have to face just how
incompetant and fearful you yourself really are." - Edmo demonstrating
his incompetance and fear.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Why can't you tell the difference between right and wrong?

Why do you ask question lie whenever you pretend to answer one?

Such as:

On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:25:09 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 02:13:29 -0800 (PST),
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > NEW RADIO SHOW
> >
> > I've just uploaded a new show
>
> Is there anybody's copyright

<lies snipped>

Hello, lying hypocrite Peter... funny you are never around when real copyright abuse of poetry is happening, or you defend the theft and abuse, as you have the plagiarism of my "Karma Bombs" poem.

For example, Fred Hall copy-and-pasted the entire "Howl" poem with nothing more than a top this" comment, and you either ignored or defended that, I don't remember which:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/ffk-i-voDy0/tVyANSyilq8J

Fred Hall on 10/9/11 wrote:

Top this boys and girls

HOWL

by Allen Ginsberg

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by
madness, starving hysterical naked,

<poem snipped for copyright purposes>

As if we needed another example of the lying hypocrisy of peter J. Ross, right?

Don't bother to answer... we know it'll just be another hypocritical lie, Peter.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmcatq...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 22:50:36 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "incapable of telling the difference between B flat and
> F sharp"? Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "incapable of improving on failure"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Interesting how you abusers try to make things a "chuckle", but you
obsess over the chuckle for 7 years." - Ed the numerically-challenged.

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> Eh? What's your first language

Why not just pretend to killfile me like you usually do when you lose an argument, PJR?

BTW you accidentally snipped:

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmcatt...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:07:07 -0800 (PST),

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>>
>>> Why can't you tell the difference between right and wrong?
>>
>> Why do you ask question lie whenever you pretend to answer one?
>

> Eh? What's your first language, Dreckster?
>
> <whinesnip>

"Canned Heat" isn't just a band to lwd, it's a way to duck paying bar tabs.

uggc://ra.jvxvcrqvn.bet/jvxv/Fgreab

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I am the only HOPE of the astrological community." - Edmo misspells the
word "dope" again.

[Will Dockery]

On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 6:16:43 PM UTC-5, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:12:34 -0800 (PST),

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Why not just pretend to killfile me like you usually do when you
> > lose an argument, PJR?
>

> *yawn*

Exactly... heh.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmcau7...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 23:08:44 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "homeless"? Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "mendacious drama queen"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Have you people gone for counseling for your addiction to both
stupidity and the newsgroups?" - Ed vaporizes another Irony Meter.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmcdq8...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 23:16:14 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "welfare scrounger"? Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "not good enough to be a has been"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Don't preach to a master psychologist about projection, simpleton."
- Ed "I have no degrees" Wollmann on another flight of fancy.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Peter J Ross <p...@homeridae.org> wrote in

news:slrnmcicf...@homeridae.org:

> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:07:09 +0000 (UTC),

> Did you forget "ghoulishly trying to profit from his distant
> acquaintances' deaths"? Yeah, you did.

Did you forget "STUFFING THE BALLOT on ReverbNation"? Yeah, you did.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"God speaks to me, that's why I can read the heavens." - Edmo, clearly
losing it.

[Will Dockery]

Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>
> Did you forget

Did he forget helplessly obsessed with "Will Dockery"?

How could he?

[Will Dockery]

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, J. Corey Connor wrote:
> You give yourself too much credit, Will.

Just calling it as I see it, Corey.

Of course your perspective might be different from mine.

And so it goes.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0d633dd1-cd3a-41ab...@googlegroups.com:

> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:58:16 PM UTC-5, J. Corey Connor
> wrote:
>> You give yourself too much credit, Will.
>
> Just calling it as I see it, Corey.

You have the Delusional Fuckchop of the Year award all sewn up.

No need to campaign further.

> Of course your perspective might be different from mine.

Most people don't confused "disillusioned" and "delusional" like you do.

> And so it goes.

Wipe afterward for a change.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"You will answer in court bitch." - Edmo just before her land
sharks forced Edmo to repay loans.

[Will Dockery]

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 7:55:23 PM UTC-5, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>
> You have the Delusional Fuckchop of the Year award all sewn up.

Yeah, your Revenge Nominations make you feel all warm and fuzzy, do they?

To be honest, all that bores me... this was supposed to be a poetry newsgroup, but since you apparently can't manage any poetry...

It helps put some distance from the topics of real interest you can't explain, also, such as the fact that you're a copyright infringer who claims he can sing?

The former was proven, while the latter, unfortunately, has not.

And... so it goes.

--
Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:40:44 AM UTC-5, J. Corey Connor wrote:
> I tried to explain my perspective through the story about my dog licking salt off my leg.
> I guess I didn't explain myself very well. My perspective is that you appear to see other
> people as being obsessed with you because you appear to be obsessed with yourself.
> People come here to read and write; to exchange and appreciate other perspectives.
> That is their obsession. They're here for the salt lick. You're just an anonymous leg.

Okay, where we seem to really drift apart is that if I had a dog acting like that I'd probably want to swat him with a newspaper.

No offense, I'm just more of a cat lover.

[Will Dockery]

Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> I agree with Will that it's high time for a new list of favorite poets.
>
> So here's mine:
>
> Edgar A. Poe
> Walt Whitman
> William Blake
> Robert Herrick
> Andrew Marvell
> Algernon Charles Swinburne
> Kevin N. Roberts
> Edward Fitzgerald
> William Ernest Henley
> Eugene Field
> Bliss Carman
> Gertrude Hall
> Robert L. Stevenson
> John Keats
> George Gordon, Lord Byron
> Alfret, Lord Tennyson
> Rudyard Kipling
> Samuel Taylor Coleridge
> Louise I. Webster
> James Whitcomb Riley
> Gerard Manley Hopkins
>
> *Just off the top of my head, I'm sure I'm leaving off several other favorites.

Hello Michael, I just found an earlier "best of" list of poets you posted, some repeats, some different, which I think you might enjoy reviewing and perhaps adding to.

http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/crF5ploZ/10-worthy-poets-from-the-past-100-years

10 Worthy Poets from the Past 100 Years
(too old to reply)
Michael Pendragon 5 months ago
Stephen Vincent Benét
Bliss Carman
Annie Finch
Robert Frost
Rudyard Kipling
Kevin N. Roberts
A.E. Stallings
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Louise Webster

and, of course, Michael M. Pendragon

So much for modesty.
============================

Okay, now where did I put that fly swatter?

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:59:32 AM UTC-5, J. Corey Connor wrote:
> No offense taken. That explains your conduct.
> You swat out at those in print who make you
> uncomfortable, as if they were cats and dogs,
> or anonymous trolls, or swarthy little friends,
> or whatever epithet works for you at the moment.
> That's okay. I get it. In fact, I get it a lot. Thanks.

Right, as if you want to claim you don't do the same when you're in my shoes?

What I get here is you don't get what you reveal about your own faults when you constantly whine about what you see as mine.

And so it goes.

[Michael Pendragon]

I didn't think I could nominate myself. But definitely add them to the list (& thanks).

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:13:36 AM UTC-5, J. Corey Connor wrote:
> I did not put Hieronymous707 on my list 5 months ago. That's a misrepresentation.

No, that's you misreading the post.

[Will Dockery]

I reckon there's nothing that says you can't add yourself, but we could better yet work out a trade... I'll put you on my list and you can put me on yours.

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:19:26 AM UTC-5, J. Corey Connor wrote:
> Make sense, Will. Your post indicates that Hieronymous707 is on J.
> Corey Connor's list. Hieronymous707 is not on J. Corey Connor's list.

http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/crF5ploZ/10-worthy-poets-from-the-past-100-years

Follow the link and read the actual post, Corey.

I copied and pasted it as is:

Hieronymous707 5 months ago

Ivan Granger
John Ashbery
Robert Bly
Mary Frye
Margaret Atwood
Coleman Barks
Jane Hirshfield
Daniel Ladinsky
Louise Bogan
Maya Angelou

Get it now, Corey?

[Michael Pendragon]

Done. :D

[Will Dockery]

We are in like Coburn.