Re: Worthy Poets

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:07:11 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Rich Siken
>
> Mark Bibbins
>
> Evie Shockley
>
> Brenda Shaughnessy

I'll have to look those poet up, thanks.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Friday, August 29, 2014 6:50:50 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:

Just checked out the following:

> Cedar Sigo

"$$$Expensive Magic$$$," "Now I'm a Woman": Apart from sometimes utilizing near-rhymes, I find nothing to applaud.

> David Meltzer

"The Art/The Veil": The fact that he starts his poem in lower case is a dead giveaway. Worthless.

> Keith Taylor

"Sea & Rain: Lake Michigan": Okay example of slightly choppy prose with mytho-poeic overtones. Not bad as such things go.


> Mary A. Speaker

"Three Poems from THE BRIDGE": More lower cased chop suey. Good imagery, but I'd rather read it as straight prose.

[Michael Pendragon]

On Friday, August 29, 2014 12:00:40 PM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Wow, your critiques are so concise and incisively precise
>
> that it's to wonder why you don't do it professionally. LOL.
>

When you name someone who warrants an essay, I'll write one. Maybe.

[Will Dockery]

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:07:11 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > Rich Siken
>
> > Mark Bibbins
>
> > Evie Shockley

Starting with Evie Shockley, today...

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/evie-shockley

So far, looks great, a "Southern Poet", that's always a plus:

"...What I mean when I speak of myself as a 'southern poet' is that I grew up: hearing certain accents and vocabularies and speech patterns that were the aural essence of 'home' or the audible signal of danger, depending; thinking that racism wasn't much of a problem in other parts of the country; eating a cuisine that was originally developed under conditions of make-do and make-last; enjoying five- or six-month summers and getting 'snow days' out of school when the forecast called for nothing other than 'possible icy conditions'; knowing that my region was considered laughable almost everywhere else; assuming there was nothing unusual about finding churches on two out of every four corners; and believing that any six or seven people with vocal chords could produce four-part harmony at the drop of a dime--and that all of this informs my poetry, sometimes directly and sometimes in ways that might be unpredictable or illegible."

Wow, I like Evie so far.

[Will Dockery]

Meanwhile I notice that Corey name drops and criticizes your capsule comments, yet he doesn't even manage that much.

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Notice noted. Have a nice day.

Good morning!

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> On my way out the door.

Okay, I see daylight is creeping in out there.

Feels like Fall here this morning.

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Sixty-three degrees and cloudy,
> perfect weather for a long run.
> I'll be back in about three hours.
> I hope you enjoy your morning
> at least as much as I am. Later.

Take care, and see you soon.

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Beautiful run. I'm pretty
>
> spent now though.

Perk up, seize the day.

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> You run twenty miles,
> then tell me to perk up.

That does seem a little... extreme.

Why 20?

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> It was actually closer to 21, 20.8, because that's
>
> about as far as I can go in three hours these days.

That's a lot of miles for a human your age to run... you're a regular Übermensch!

Ayn Rand would be proud.

[Will Dockery]

"Dover Beach" poem by Matthew Arnold recorded by The Fugs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y29kBLzPuaA

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> It may seem extreme to you, but
> that pace wouldn't even qualify me
> for entry in the Boston Marathon.
> There are thousands of guys my
> age and older who run much faster.

Yeah, it boggles the mind (this one, anyway) that someone would want to run that distance. The image in my mind is that that's like running from here to Auburn Alabama. The late artist John E. Jones used to tell me he and other hippie friends walked out the railroad tracks from Phenix City to Auburn/Opelika to drug parties there in the 1970s and now I can believe he might have.

http://ltc4940.blogspot.com/2009/04/opelika-al.html

That blog has a great history of that area, I know you mentioned earlier you met some folks from there while performing a wedding.

[Will Dockery]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:08:34 PM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Yeah, I get that a lot. If you don't run, then you can't know what it feels like,
> and there's no way that I can adequately describe a feeling to you that you
> haven't experienced. You can't intellectualize a feeling. You have to feel it to
> understand it. The farthest and longest I've ever run at one time was a little
> more than 120 miles in a 24 hour endurance event. Now that was extreme.

You must have camped out somewhere along the way?

[Will Dockery]

Hieronymous707 wrote:
> No camping, just running slow for 24 hours straight.

Seems impossible without drugs.

[rachel...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 1:55:12 PM UTC-7, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> One of the most common adverse effects associated
>
> with the use of Paxil is ejaculatory disturbance and other
>
> male genital disorders. It's nothing to be ashamed of, Pete.

Hi Corey! I've missed you (your poetry). I stopped coming here for a very long time because there was nothing to read due to your deletions (I come here for your posts, please don't let your head swell bigger than it already is, Mr. Bean!! (that's my idea of a fun sincere compliment).)

It's really wonderful, and I would be so grateful, as a Google Groups user (due to my computer illiteracy, i am practically in the dark ages, I can barely use it, even my own, in terms of a hard drive, organizing my pictures, I have no idea how to navigate the drive, and organize my pictures, access them, keep them, my processor giving me the umbrella all the time, it's terrible etc.., it sure makes me feel even more out of it, stuck in the old days, and isolated from the new world, as i am all alone pretty much) anyway, I would be so very grateful if you didn't delete your posts. This is a very sincere request made from love. I like them so much, they are so much fun, so well written, really super duper impressive, and it would just add so much to my empty days spent pacing around my cage waiting to live my life, not knowing where to start, because the thing I really want is out of reach, out of range.

Well, so that's it. That's all I wanted to say. I'm really lost, and your posts would be a most welcome addition to my empty life.

With love,
Rachel

[rachel...@gmail.com]

To my surprise, I came here yesterday, and managed to catch a few poems, and I was blown away.

It would be a gift, if you left them there, you made them available to me (and others, probably?).

Here's Hoping...
Rachel :)

P.S. Congratulations on your amazing health routine. I wish I felt that good! :) I should take a page from your book. It's just so hard for me to do it on my own. Sigh.

[Will Dockery]

Great to see you here, Rachel!

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 30 Aug 2014 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
> rachel...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Hi troll!
> Trolling the plagiarising scumbag

<snip>

This is an accusation Peter J Ross makes that Corey denies being true, for the record:

On Friday, August 29, 2014 9:30:28 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > Okay. To be clear, nobody I know has ever charged me with plagiarism. As far as I'm concerned, references in that regard on Usenet are simply trolls, and we all know the consequence of feed trolls. I can't make you, believe me any more than I can make you trust me. The best I can do under the circumstances is make myself believable and trustworthy, and that is a work in constant progress. Thanks for your time.

And so it... got up and went.

[Will Dockery]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:55:54 PM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Troll away, Will!

Feeding 'em, I reckon.

[Will Dockery]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:36:49 PM UTC-4, rachel...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, August 30, 2014 1:55:12 PM UTC-7, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > > One of the most common adverse effects associated
> > > with the use of Paxil is ejaculatory disturbance and other
> > > male genital disorders. It's nothing to be ashamed of, Pete.
>
> > Hi Corey! I've missed you (your poetry). I stopped coming here for a very long time because there was nothing to read due to your deletions (I come here for your posts, please don't let your head swell bigger than it already is, Mr. Bean!! (that's my idea of a fun sincere compliment).)
>
> > It's really wonderful, and I would be so grateful, as a Google Groups user (due to my computer illiteracy, i am practically in the dark ages, I can barely use it, even my own, in terms of a hard drive, organizing my pictures, I have no idea how to navigate the drive, and organize my pictures, access them, keep them, my processor giving me the umbrella all the time, it's terrible etc.., it sure makes me feel even more out of it, stuck in the old days, and isolated from the new world, as i am all alone pretty much) anyway, I would be so very grateful if you didn't delete your posts. This is a very sincere request made from love. I like them so much, they are so much fun, so well written, really super duper impressive, and it would just add so much to my empty days spent pacing around my cage waiting to live my life, not knowing where to start, because the thing I really want is out of reach, out of range.
>
> > Well, so that's it. That's all I wanted to say. I'm really lost, and your posts would be a most welcome addition to my empty life.
>

> To my surprise, I came here yesterday, and managed to catch a few poems, and I was blown away.
>
> It would be a gift, if you left them there, you made them available to me (and others, probably?).

We've been trying to get Corey to leave his posts and poems up and not delete them... maybe you can be more convincing.

> Here's Hoping...
>
> Rachel :)
>
> P.S. Congratulations on your amazing health routine. I wish I felt that good! :) I should take a page from your book. It's just so hard for me to do it on my own. Sigh.

The man runs 20 miles a day... that's more miles than Mick Jagger runs!

[Will Dockery]

Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> is supported by convincing evidence, including the publicly reported
> testimony of the plagiarist's victim, as well as by the plagiarist's
> own public admission.

Corey states the opposite is true, though:

On Friday, August 29, 2014 9:30:28 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> > Okay. To be clear, nobody I know has ever charged me with plagiarism.

And since you are a known and proven liar, PJR, any claims and accusations you make here are, of course, suspect.

And so it goes.

[rachel...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:45:41 PM UTC-7, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Gosh, Rachel. I'm so very, very flattered.
>
> Thank you really, really sincerely, straight
>
> from the bottom of my heart. You wouldn't
>
> be blowing smoke up my butt, would you?
>
> Please say no. That would almost be too
>
> much for my poor little psyche to bare.

Wow, forget it. I was just being honest, if you think I am just fucking around with you, well then, I give up.

[rachel...@gmail.com]

I thought you were being sarcastic in your answer. Maybe I misread it. I thought you were being paranoid.

Yes, I thoroughly enjoy your poetry, I really really really do. I mean, sure sometimes, it falls a bit short, but it's always cool to read, charming, it's fun, and I just connect with it, OKAY? IS THAT A CRIME?????

I saw the The Dream, and some other things, and I really wished you wouldn't delete your stuff, so I could read it. It helps me pass the time, get through the day, and makes me feel connected (to another human being.)

[rachel...@gmail.com]

and what you are able to do in a flow with language is really impressive some of the time.

[rachel...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:07:03 PM UTC-7, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> I thought you were being very sweet, Rachel.

I thought your first answer was pure biting sarcasm. (giggle).

I misread it.

Sorry. :)

[rachel...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:28:10 PM UTC-7, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> I'm glad you enjoy reading my poetry.
>
> If you want to feel connected to another
>
> human being you'll actually have to
>
> connect with another human being.
>
> You can't do that by reading or typing.

I know. I've been spreading my legs, too, but no one is coming in!

I'm waiting, Mr. Dylan!!!!!!!!!

[rachel...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:36:09 PM UTC-7, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Act smart not crazy, Rachel.
>
> Crazy Rachel isn't smart.

Crazy Rachel makes me happy. Because Rachel is head over heels crazy about Mr. Booboo Dylan. (except when I see what I write through the eyes of strangers, and become as red as a beet.)

Our founding fathers were so enamored with and committed to the ideal of Happiness, that they guaranteed the pursuit of it as one of our unalienable rights in our Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

[rachel...@gmail.com]

I would say that crazy Rachel is an outrageous success!