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Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Feb 19, 2018, 1:26:35 PM2/19/18
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Mina Loy, ca. June 1930 mss. 'Jules Pascin',
first published in 1958, Lunar Baedeker & time-tables.
Selected poems (Jonathan Williams). Text below
follows typescript as found in Loy Papers. Yale Collection
of American Literature, Beinecki Library, Yale University,
Box 5 Folder 9.
Jules Pascin, artist, 31 March 1885-5 June 1930 suicide
So this is death
to rise to the occasion
a shadow
to a shadowy persuasion
Pascin has passed
with his affectionate swagger
his air
of the Crown in the role of jester
The side-long derby-slanted Bulgar
cocked his jet eye
in its immaculate leer,
and as a coin,
tossed his destiny
Once a shy ivory boy,
the colour of life
had deepened on his cheek
in a wry irony
Pascin has ceased
to flush with ineffaceable bruises
his innubile Circes
Ceased to dangle
demi-rep angels
in tinsel bordels
Silence bleeds
from his slashed wrists
the dim homunculus
within
cries for the unbirth
The seeds
of his sly spirit
are cast to posterity
in satyric squander
a pigeon-toed populace
whose changeling women
jostle the prodigal son
as swine
Cinderellas awander.
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STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
first published in 1958, Lunar Baedeker & time-tables.
Selected poems (Jonathan Williams). Text below
follows typescript as found in Loy Papers. Yale Collection
of American Literature, Beinecki Library, Yale University,
Box 5 Folder 9.
Jules Pascin, artist, 31 March 1885-5 June 1930 suicide
So this is death
to rise to the occasion
a shadow
to a shadowy persuasion
Pascin has passed
with his affectionate swagger
his air
of the Crown in the role of jester
The side-long derby-slanted Bulgar
cocked his jet eye
in its immaculate leer,
and as a coin,
tossed his destiny
Once a shy ivory boy,
the colour of life
had deepened on his cheek
in a wry irony
Pascin has ceased
to flush with ineffaceable bruises
his innubile Circes
Ceased to dangle
demi-rep angels
in tinsel bordels
Silence bleeds
from his slashed wrists
the dim homunculus
within
cries for the unbirth
The seeds
of his sly spirit
are cast to posterity
in satyric squander
a pigeon-toed populace
whose changeling women
jostle the prodigal son
as swine
Cinderellas awander.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Feb 19, 2018, 1:45:45 PM2/19/18
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On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:26:35 AM UTC-8, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
© Estate of Mina Loy. Printed for educational purposes
© Estate of Mina Loy. Printed for educational purposes
Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Feb 19, 2018, 1:48:35 PM2/19/18
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On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:26:35 AM UTC-8, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
HEADER TITLE SHOULD BE JULES PASCIN
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Will Dockery
Feb 19, 2018, 7:21:14 PM2/19/18
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"Chafetz Chayim benAvraham" wrote in message
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> HEADER TITLE SHOULD BE JULES PASCIN
Noted and corrected...
> HEADER TITLE SHOULD BE JULES PASCIN
Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 5:04:32 AM3/12/18
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"Chafetz Chayim benAvraham" wrote in message
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Digging the Mina... calming beauty after such a savage night on the
newsgroup.
Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Mar 12, 2018, 11:54:50 AM3/12/18
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MyDemon...@gmail.com
Mar 12, 2018, 12:36:37 PM3/12/18
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How can a fabrication be disgraced?
Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Mar 12, 2018, 1:34:43 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 9:36:37 AM UTC-7, Disgraced AbscesScarlotti fumbles...
> > Shalom & Boker tov, Will...I agree...Scarlotti is now in full mode christianist daemonic savagery. I ignore his disgraced fabrications.
> >
>
> "Christianist"? Pick coins another politically incorrect word!
>
> How can a fabrication be disgraced?
Shalom & Boker tov, Will...it is legitimate word, hardly 'incorrect'. His christianist delusions are synonymous with his crucifictionism. His libellous smears are predictable, and ignored. He remains irrelevant.
> > Shalom & Boker tov, Will...I agree...Scarlotti is now in full mode christianist daemonic savagery. I ignore his disgraced fabrications.
> >
>
> "Christianist"? Pick coins another politically incorrect word!
>
> How can a fabrication be disgraced?
Michael Pendragon
Mar 12, 2018, 2:14:09 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 1:34:43 PM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 9:36:37 AM UTC-7, Disgraced AbscesScarlotti fumbles...
>
> > > Shalom & Boker tov, Will...I agree...Scarlotti is now in full mode christianist daemonic savagery. I ignore his disgraced fabrications.
> > >
> >
> > "Christianist"? Pick coins another politically incorrect word!
> >
> > How can a fabrication be disgraced?
>
> Shalom & Boker tov, Will...it is legitimate word, hardly 'incorrect'. His christianist delusions are synonymous with his crucifictionism. His libellous smears are predictable, and ignored. He remains irrelevant.
>
Will..."it is legitimate word" not English. It Tarzan-speak. Pick speak Tarzan-speak. Pick not know English.
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 9:36:37 AM UTC-7, Disgraced AbscesScarlotti fumbles...
>
> > > Shalom & Boker tov, Will...I agree...Scarlotti is now in full mode christianist daemonic savagery. I ignore his disgraced fabrications.
> > >
> >
> > "Christianist"? Pick coins another politically incorrect word!
> >
> > How can a fabrication be disgraced?
>
> Shalom & Boker tov, Will...it is legitimate word, hardly 'incorrect'. His christianist delusions are synonymous with his crucifictionism. His libellous smears are predictable, and ignored. He remains irrelevant.
>
"Christianist" is a religiously intolerant smear; much as "Crucifictionism" implies that the Gospels are "Fiction."
Pick is an ignorant, bigoted p.o.s., plagiarist, NAMBLA-supporting, yellow-stained coward and traitor to his country, whose only possible excuse for his behavior is that he's a delusional paranoid schizophrenic.
But even as a delusional paranoid schizophrenic, he's still a vile p.o.s.
The last thing this group needs is some whacked-out bigot, spewing out hate screeds 24/7. It's time for you to man up and send the bastard packing.
Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 3:28:32 PM3/12/18
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I know of a few trolls I'd send packing, but here on Usenet you generally
have to let them burn themselves out, as I've seen happen with a dozen
trolls here over the years.
:)
have to let them burn themselves out, as I've seen happen with a dozen
trolls here over the years.
:)
Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Mar 12, 2018, 3:35:59 PM3/12/18
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Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 3:44:47 PM3/12/18
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Exactly... Pendragon simply repeats the same lie over and over, hoping it
will stick.
will stick.
Coco DeSockmonkey
Mar 12, 2018, 4:03:14 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 3:44:47 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Exactly... Pendragon simply repeats the same lie over and over, hoping it
> will stick.
If I find Brooke's poetry, will you send the Fake Jew packing?
> Exactly... Pendragon simply repeats the same lie over and over, hoping it
> will stick.
Coco DeSockmonkey
Mar 12, 2018, 4:06:02 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 3:35:59 PM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > I know of a few trolls I'd send packing, but here on Usenet you generally
> > have to let them burn themselves out, as I've seen happen with a dozen
> > trolls here over the years.
> >
> > :)
>
> Shalom & Boker tov, Will...you will note that, like most psychopaths, Scarlotti's uses the same Goebbels technique of repetitive lying. What he is stating, to be sure, is not reality...every one of his screed's adjectives are juvenile delusions. George Dance, and so many others, have seen the transparency of his manipulative crucifictionism.
>
Why does Dunce lie so much, Pick?
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 12:28:32 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > I know of a few trolls I'd send packing, but here on Usenet you generally
> > have to let them burn themselves out, as I've seen happen with a dozen
> > trolls here over the years.
> >
> > :)
>
> Shalom & Boker tov, Will...you will note that, like most psychopaths, Scarlotti's uses the same Goebbels technique of repetitive lying. What he is stating, to be sure, is not reality...every one of his screed's adjectives are juvenile delusions. George Dance, and so many others, have seen the transparency of his manipulative crucifictionism.
>
Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 4:13:47 PM3/12/18
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You're projecting again, Pendragon.... we all know you're the biggest and
repetitive liar on the poetry group.
All a part of that "evil" pretention of yours, right?
repetitive liar on the poetry group.
All a part of that "evil" pretention of yours, right?
Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 4:25:12 PM3/12/18
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Rather than "find" some Brooke poetry, why not just make some up and lie
that she wrote it?
Okay, now I've given you the answer, run along and write some girlie poems
for Brooke... you know you wanna.
:)
that she wrote it?
Okay, now I've given you the answer, run along and write some girlie poems
for Brooke... you know you wanna.
:)
Coco DeSockmonkey
Mar 12, 2018, 4:28:12 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:13:47 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> You're projecting again, Pendragon.... we all know you're the biggest and
> repetitive liar on the poetry group.
>
When you're right, you're right, Will.
> You're projecting again, Pendragon.... we all know you're the biggest and
> repetitive liar on the poetry group.
>
You got me.
You were never the heart and soul of this group.
I never thought "Rag Picker Joe" had some merit as a song.
And as to your singing, I really think that all the rap, metal, alternative, and other modern artists are 1,000 times better than you.
And I never believed for one second that you were basically a nice person.
Nor did I ever consider us to be friends.
Matter of fact, you can take all those 1,000s posts I made supporting your fat ass and toss 'em out the window with your leftover slops.
But you've gotta admit that I'm the world's greatest liar. I had you believing me for 3 1/2 years.
nancygene...@gmail.com
Mar 12, 2018, 4:29:17 PM3/12/18
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Re: Where were you in 1968?
Yes that is typical Will-speak.
It soothes his fragile psyche
to call people jealous who dare
to call his writing the shit that it is.
Since nobody else on this forum is
worthy of such "jealousy" that makes
him head over heels better than anyone here.
It's the same when calls people
obsessed and trolls. He goes on
the attack rather than examine
his life and ways to see why he
has been by far the largest object
of ridicule on here for several decades
now. A sane person would take the hint
and pause for some self-reflection
but not Will. Queenie lives for the drama.
If he only knew what a joke he was to the locals.
I hear they gave him quite the smack down on Topix.
Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 4:35:14 PM3/12/18
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For real?
An actual Brroke poem?
Okay, if true... glad to see, there may be hope for it yet.
An actual Brroke poem?
Okay, if true... glad to see, there may be hope for it yet.
Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 4:36:41 PM3/12/18
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You lied about my son, and even you know that's just about as low as a
person can get, Pen.
person can get, Pen.
Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Mar 12, 2018, 4:43:36 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 1:29:17 PM UTC-7, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/authormsg$3Aalt.arts.poetry.comments$2C8vsbdfMPAQAJ$20after$3A2018$2F1$2F1$20before$3A2018$2F2$2F1%7Csort:date%7Cspell:false/alt.arts.poetry.comments/uULN1ac-qFk/VLpLgEIMAQAJ
>
> Re: Where were you in 1968?
Like NaziGene's fish-in-newspaper, this is trite, and riddled with outright fabrications. I can see why NaziGene likes it, because it mirrors their emotional fascism.
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> Re: Where were you in 1968?
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nancygene...@gmail.com
Mar 12, 2018, 4:53:48 PM3/12/18
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Of course you did because
it's just another platform for you
to bloviate about yourself with
no intentions of using it to land a job.
I don't know how in good conscience
you can be a freeloader like you are.
Do you really live off your brother's nut check?
You're not a man at all.
Coco DeSockmonkey
Mar 12, 2018, 4:58:03 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:36:41 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> You lied about my son, and even you know that's just about as low as a
> person can get, Pen.
What lie?
> You lied about my son, and even you know that's just about as low as a
> person can get, Pen.
I wrote a fictional poem about a fictional poet who had an epiphany that his son named "Clay" was gay.
Chafetz Chayim benAvraham
Mar 12, 2018, 5:11:19 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 1:53:48 PM UTC-7, NaziGene, the cyberstalking plagiarist is anointing themselves...
Will...you will notice NaziGene, who is not a poet but a cyberstalking paraphraser of what others formulate for them, is finding Brooke's trival attacks against you, then claiming they are, by inference, truthful portrayals of you. I know better. But NaziGene's fascism persists.
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Will...you will notice NaziGene, who is not a poet but a cyberstalking paraphraser of what others formulate for them, is finding Brooke's trival attacks against you, then claiming they are, by inference, truthful portrayals of you. I know better. But NaziGene's fascism persists.
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Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 5:14:40 PM3/12/18
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Did you change the names to make it actually fictional, Pen?
Will Dockery
Mar 12, 2018, 5:15:45 PM3/12/18
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No, Brooke doesn't even know me, so all it does is post fantasy and lies.
Will Dockery
May 27, 2018, 10:39:35 PM5/27/18
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Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 11:23:45 AM5/28/18
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Will Dockery
May 28, 2018, 11:26:18 AM5/28/18
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If so, go with the best, I say.
👍
👍
NancyGene
May 28, 2018, 11:27:43 AM5/28/18
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Will Dockery
May 28, 2018, 11:30:05 AM5/28/18
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No, I'm a fan of Mina Loy's poetry.
To each his own, right?
To each his own, right?
Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 11:42:24 AM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 11:30:05 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> No, I'm a fan of Mina Loy's poetry.
>
> To each his own, right?
Do you even understand her poetry?
> No, I'm a fan of Mina Loy's poetry.
>
> To each his own, right?
What is her Ode to Jules Paschin poem saying to you?
How about this passage, Will? What does it mean to you?
Will Dockery
May 28, 2018, 12:01:52 PM5/28/18
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Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 12:35:09 PM5/28/18
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What does "innubile" mean?
What does "demi-rep" mean?
Who are his "Circes"?
How is a bruise "ineffaceable"? And were it truly ineffaceable, how would it cease to be so in death?
Is she saying that he was obsessed with frequenting post-menopausal whores who would beat the living crap out of him on such a frequent basis that his bruises never had time to heal?
That's what I'm getting from it. Let's hear your take.
Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di
May 28, 2018, 1:10:03 PM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:35:09 AM UTC-7, Michael Pendragon wrote:
Shalom & Boker tov, Will...this is PaedoBarney's delusional bullshit. He has not studied Mina Loy's works, and is playing childish 'gotcha politics' with a real poet. PaedoBarney is a fraud, and, if he was familiar with her work (which he is not), he would silence this screed. She was quite interested in Jules Pascin's drawings, and wrote this poem (among so many others) because of the synaesthesia of sounds involved. PaedoBarney is a fraud.
Consider: Jules Pascin (who passed in 1930) was a satirist and illustrator. He would rarely use a brush, but etched with an elongated fingernail. Mina Loy always considered it the flaying of a woman's body:
Pascin has ceased
to flush [draw] with ineffaceable [indelible] bruises
his innubile [French, meaning roughly in abeyance] Circes
Loy believed that Pascin's life did flush with effaceable bruises, and she was aware of the logical confusion of 'innubile Circes'. Circe was the goddess of magick, not always a foe of Ulysses, having given his party supplies and alerts to coming dangers. Mina Loy is, quite obviously, unable to define Pascin, or her deep emotions for him...thus, there is more than one Circe.
PaedoBarney is quite inept.
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IN PROGRESS: Shabtai Zisel benAvraham v'Rachel Riva:
davening in the musematic dark
Shalom & Boker tov, Will...this is PaedoBarney's delusional bullshit. He has not studied Mina Loy's works, and is playing childish 'gotcha politics' with a real poet. PaedoBarney is a fraud, and, if he was familiar with her work (which he is not), he would silence this screed. She was quite interested in Jules Pascin's drawings, and wrote this poem (among so many others) because of the synaesthesia of sounds involved. PaedoBarney is a fraud.
Consider: Jules Pascin (who passed in 1930) was a satirist and illustrator. He would rarely use a brush, but etched with an elongated fingernail. Mina Loy always considered it the flaying of a woman's body:
Pascin has ceased
to flush [draw] with ineffaceable [indelible] bruises
his innubile [French, meaning roughly in abeyance] Circes
Loy believed that Pascin's life did flush with effaceable bruises, and she was aware of the logical confusion of 'innubile Circes'. Circe was the goddess of magick, not always a foe of Ulysses, having given his party supplies and alerts to coming dangers. Mina Loy is, quite obviously, unable to define Pascin, or her deep emotions for him...thus, there is more than one Circe.
PaedoBarney is quite inept.
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STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
לעולם לא אשכח
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
IN PROGRESS: Shabtai Zisel benAvraham v'Rachel Riva:
davening in the musematic dark
Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di
May 28, 2018, 1:17:51 PM5/28/18
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Decontextualising a part for illustration:
Ceased to dangle
demi-rep [prostitute] angels
in tinsel bordels [brothels]
PaedoBarney needs to seek crisis intervention for his predilections for pre-teens...
Will Dockery
May 28, 2018, 2:55:14 PM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:35:09 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:01:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > No, I'm a fan of Mina Loy's poetry.
> > > >
> > > > To each his own, right?
> > >
> > > Do you even understand her poetry?
> > >
> > > What is her Ode to Jules Paschin poem saying to you?
> > >
> > > How about this passage, Will? What does it mean to you?
> > >
> > > > Pascin has ceased
> > > > to flush with ineffaceable bruises
> > > > his innubile Circes
> > > >
> > > > Ceased to dangle
> > > > demi-rep angels
> > > > in tinsel bordels
> >
> > It means that the artist Jules Paschin, the subject of the poem, has died.
>
> No, Will. That's implicit in the poem's title. I'm asking you about the above passage:
>
> What does "innubile" mean?
I had to look that word up, apparently it is Latin, from:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:01:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > No, I'm a fan of Mina Loy's poetry.
> > > >
> > > > To each his own, right?
> > >
> > > Do you even understand her poetry?
> > >
> > > What is her Ode to Jules Paschin poem saying to you?
> > >
> > > How about this passage, Will? What does it mean to you?
> > >
> > > > Pascin has ceased
> > > > to flush with ineffaceable bruises
> > > > his innubile Circes
> > > >
> > > > Ceased to dangle
> > > > demi-rep angels
> > > > in tinsel bordels
> >
> > It means that the artist Jules Paschin, the subject of the poem, has died.
>
> No, Will. That's implicit in the poem's title. I'm asking you about the above passage:
>
> What does "innubile" mean?
http://latin-dictionary.net/definition/23921/innubilus-innubila-innubilum
Latin definition for:
innubilus, innubila, innubilum
Definitions:
unclouded, clear
> What does "demi-rep" mean?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/demirep
demirep (plural demireps)
(colloquial, dated) A woman of doubtful reputation or suspected character; an adventuress.
> Who are his "Circes"?
> How is a bruise "ineffaceable"? And were it truly ineffaceable, how would it cease to be so in death?
> Is she saying that he was obsessed with frequenting post-menopausal whores who would beat the living crap out of him on such a frequent basis that his bruises never had time to heal?
>
> That's what I'm getting from it. Let's hear your take.
:)
Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 4:40:11 PM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 1:10:03 PM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:35:09 AM UTC-7, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> Shalom & Boker tov, Will...this is PaedoBarney's delusional bullshit. He has not studied Mina Loy's works, and is playing childish 'gotcha politics' with a real poet. PaedoBarney is a fraud, and, if he was familiar with her work (which he is not), he would silence this screed. She was quite interested in Jules Pascin's drawings, and wrote this poem (among so many others) because of the synaesthesia of sounds involved. PaedoBarney is a fraud.
>
> Consider: Jules Pascin (who passed in 1930) was a satirist and illustrator. He would rarely use a brush, but etched with an elongated fingernail. Mina Loy always considered it the flaying of a woman's body:
>
> Pascin has ceased
> to flush [draw] with ineffaceable [indelible] bruises
> his innubile [French, meaning roughly in abeyance] Circes
>
> Loy believed that Pascin's life did flush with effaceable bruises, and she was aware of the logical confusion of 'innubile Circes'. Circe was the goddess of magick, not always a foe of Ulysses, having given his party supplies and alerts to coming dangers. Mina Loy is, quite obviously, unable to define Pascin, or her deep emotions for him...thus, there is more than one Circe.
>
> PaedoBarney is quite inept.
I asked for Will's interpretation, Pick. I'm not interested in hearing more of your gibberish.
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:35:09 AM UTC-7, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> Shalom & Boker tov, Will...this is PaedoBarney's delusional bullshit. He has not studied Mina Loy's works, and is playing childish 'gotcha politics' with a real poet. PaedoBarney is a fraud, and, if he was familiar with her work (which he is not), he would silence this screed. She was quite interested in Jules Pascin's drawings, and wrote this poem (among so many others) because of the synaesthesia of sounds involved. PaedoBarney is a fraud.
>
> Consider: Jules Pascin (who passed in 1930) was a satirist and illustrator. He would rarely use a brush, but etched with an elongated fingernail. Mina Loy always considered it the flaying of a woman's body:
>
> Pascin has ceased
> to flush [draw] with ineffaceable [indelible] bruises
> his innubile [French, meaning roughly in abeyance] Circes
>
> Loy believed that Pascin's life did flush with effaceable bruises, and she was aware of the logical confusion of 'innubile Circes'. Circe was the goddess of magick, not always a foe of Ulysses, having given his party supplies and alerts to coming dangers. Mina Loy is, quite obviously, unable to define Pascin, or her deep emotions for him...thus, there is more than one Circe.
>
> PaedoBarney is quite inept.
Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di
May 28, 2018, 4:51:22 PM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney collapses...
PaedoBarney, a white supremacist liar, is not 'asking', but attempting to trap Will...I don't care what the halakhic fraud is wanting. Will and I have privately discussed this piece, and PaedoBarney is too ignorant/stupid to discuss it. 'Gibberish'? This is noted, ignored, archived.
PaedoBarney, a white supremacist liar, is not 'asking', but attempting to trap Will...I don't care what the halakhic fraud is wanting. Will and I have privately discussed this piece, and PaedoBarney is too ignorant/stupid to discuss it. 'Gibberish'? This is noted, ignored, archived.
Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 4:52:19 PM5/28/18
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But don't you think this message would come across more clearly, and that the poem would make for a much more enjoyable read, if we didn't have to look up "innubile" and "demi-rep" and figure out how all mixed mythologies (Greek & Hebrew in the quoted passage alone) fit into this high falutin' word soup?
I personally feel verses overloaded with ten cent words are the earmark of a rank amateur, and/or a not particularly bright autodidact (like Pick) who's hell-bent on passing him/herself off as an intellectual.
Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di
May 28, 2018, 5:02:03 PM5/28/18
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Will Dockery
May 28, 2018, 5:14:31 PM5/28/18
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My take on the similar subject (without the mythology or big words) would be more like...
Truck Stop Woman written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley:
https://youtu.be/Ww4IHVAwWNI
Artemis Records Presents-"Truck Stop Woman" featuring Will Dockery, Henry Conley, Gene Woolfolk , Durundo Jenkins, Patricia Suddeth, Dana Dodd, Mike Matthews, Directed by Basil Fitzpatrick and Rusty Wood, Edited by Jamie Mitchell. Audio track recorded and produced at Larry Rose Studio.
:)
Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 8:40:08 PM5/28/18
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stephanpi...@gmail.com
May 28, 2018, 8:47:40 PM5/28/18
to
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:40:08 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney strives for consistency in stupidity...
Since PaedoBarney has no familiarity with either Jules Pascin or Mina Loy, for him to puff himself up in pseudo-outrage because my rapid typing results in typographical errors -- is irrelevant. PaedoBarney remains a fraud.
Since PaedoBarney has no familiarity with either Jules Pascin or Mina Loy, for him to puff himself up in pseudo-outrage because my rapid typing results in typographical errors -- is irrelevant. PaedoBarney remains a fraud.
Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 8:58:05 PM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 8:47:40 PM UTC-4, stephanpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:40:08 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney strives for consistency in stupidity...
>
"P" and "B" are nowhere near each other on the keyboard, Pick. You misspelled his name as "Bascin" both times.
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:40:08 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney strives for consistency in stupidity...
>
It's quite clear that you have no idea who he was.
Now shut the fuck up and die.
stephanpi...@gmail.com
May 28, 2018, 9:20:54 PM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:58:05 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney whimpers...
> Now shut the fuck up and die.
Death wish noted and ignored from this disgraced troll. It matters not that rapid typing resulted in a misspelling. I know quite well Jules Pascin's history...and I know your PaedoDaemon disguises.
> Now shut the fuck up and die.
Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 9:23:00 PM5/28/18
to
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:20:54 PM UTC-4, stephanpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:58:05 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney whimpers...
>
> > Now shut the fuck up and die.
>
> Death wish noted and ignored from this disgraced troll. It matters not that rapid typing resulted in a misspelling. I know quite well Jules Pascin's history...and I know your PaedoDaemon disguises.
>
You don't know what time of day it is. Now shut the fuck up and die.
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:58:05 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney whimpers...
>
> > Now shut the fuck up and die.
>
> Death wish noted and ignored from this disgraced troll. It matters not that rapid typing resulted in a misspelling. I know quite well Jules Pascin's history...and I know your PaedoDaemon disguises.
>
stephanpi...@gmail.com
May 28, 2018, 9:32:08 PM5/28/18
to
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 6:23:00 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney wants to be the adult in the room...
>
> You don't know what time of day it is. Now shut the fuck up and die.
Shalom & Erev tov, everyone...as I write this, it is 6:29 p.m. PST, 14 Sivan 5778 / 28 May 2018 CE. I do know, quite conclusively, that, like NaziGene and Drivel-Boy Sandboxer, PaedoBarney remains an illiterate troll...and his constant death wishes/threats against me are meaningless...
>
> You don't know what time of day it is. Now shut the fuck up and die.
drive-by
May 28, 2018, 9:36:23 PM5/28/18
to
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:32:08 PM UTC-4, stephanpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 6:23:00 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney wants to be the adult in the room...
>
> >
> > You don't know what time of day it is. Now shut the fuck up and die.
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, everyone...as I write this, it is 6:29 p.m. PST, 14 Sivan 5778 / 28 May 2018 CE. I do know, quite conclusively, that, like NaziGene and Drivel-Boy Sandboxer, PaedoBarney remains an illiterate troll...and his constant death wishes/threats against me are meaningless...
>
>
>
>
DEAD MAN WALKING
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 6:23:00 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney wants to be the adult in the room...
>
> >
> > You don't know what time of day it is. Now shut the fuck up and die.
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, everyone...as I write this, it is 6:29 p.m. PST, 14 Sivan 5778 / 28 May 2018 CE. I do know, quite conclusively, that, like NaziGene and Drivel-Boy Sandboxer, PaedoBarney remains an illiterate troll...and his constant death wishes/threats against me are meaningless...
>
>
>
>
Michael Pendragon
May 28, 2018, 9:36:56 PM5/28/18
to
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 9:32:08 PM UTC-4, stephanpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 6:23:00 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney wants to be the adult in the room...
>
> >
> > You don't know what time of day it is. Now shut the fuck up and die.
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, everyone...as I write this, it is 6:29 p.m. PST, 14 Sivan 5778 / 28 May 2018 CE. I do know, quite conclusively, that, like NaziGene and Drivel-Boy Sandboxer, PaedoBarney remains an illiterate troll...and his constant death wishes/threats against me are meaningless...
>
You had to google that, Pick.
>
> >
> > You don't know what time of day it is. Now shut the fuck up and die.
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, everyone...as I write this, it is 6:29 p.m. PST, 14 Sivan 5778 / 28 May 2018 CE. I do know, quite conclusively, that, like NaziGene and Drivel-Boy Sandboxer, PaedoBarney remains an illiterate troll...and his constant death wishes/threats against me are meaningless...
>
Now STFU & DIE.
stephanpi...@gmail.com
May 28, 2018, 10:04:43 PM5/28/18
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stephanpi...@gmail.com
May 28, 2018, 10:42:57 PM5/28/18
to
On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:26:35 AM UTC-8, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
Jules Pascin (he pronounced it pass-keen) is quite interesting, more so than the gothicrap plagiarisms of PaedoBarney. In my discussion of Mina Loy in my monograph-in-progress, I found these definitive:
Pascin [ed. Alfred Werner] (Harry N. Abrams), 1-32 + 1-89 [110 drawings, illustrations, paintings]
Alexandr Dupouy, 2014. Pascin (Parkstone International), 1-256
Jules Pascin (he pronounced it pass-keen) is quite interesting, more so than the gothicrap plagiarisms of PaedoBarney. In my discussion of Mina Loy in my monograph-in-progress, I found these definitive:
Pascin [ed. Alfred Werner] (Harry N. Abrams), 1-32 + 1-89 [110 drawings, illustrations, paintings]
Alexandr Dupouy, 2014. Pascin (Parkstone International), 1-256
drive-by
May 28, 2018, 11:18:27 PM5/28/18
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mydemon...@gmail.com
May 28, 2018, 11:40:12 PM5/28/18
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 10:42:57 PM UTC-4, stephanpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:26:35 AM UTC-8, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
>
> Jules Pascin
> On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:26:35 AM UTC-8, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
>
> Jules Pascin
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 10:42:57 PM UTC-4, stephanpi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:26:35 AM UTC-8, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
>
> Jules Pascin
No one cares, Pick.
> On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:26:35 AM UTC-8, Chafetz Chayim benAvraham wrote:
>
> Jules Pascin
Go die.
Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di
May 29, 2018, 11:34:55 PM5/29/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 1:53:48 PM UTC-7, NaziGene is lying...
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...this amateurish nonsense deserves no response. None of it is true, NaziGene does not know your brother David, knows nothing really. 'She' is imaginary.
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...this amateurish nonsense deserves no response. None of it is true, NaziGene does not know your brother David, knows nothing really. 'She' is imaginary.
Michael Pendragon
May 30, 2018, 12:39:13 AM5/30/18
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On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 11:34:55 PM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di wrote:
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 1:53:48 PM UTC-7, NaziGene is lying...
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, Will...this amateurish nonsense deserves no response. None of it is true, NaziGene does not know your brother David, knows nothing really. 'She' is imaginary.
>
Will...the puppet master is pulling your strings again.
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 1:53:48 PM UTC-7, NaziGene is lying...
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, Will...this amateurish nonsense deserves no response. None of it is true, NaziGene does not know your brother David, knows nothing really. 'She' is imaginary.
>
Resist him.
Expel him.
Tell him to fuck off and die.
Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di
May 30, 2018, 12:51:53 AM5/30/18
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On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:39:13 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney composes another Hit Parade reject...
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...I burst out laughing when reading this. It is a demented re-run from warped celluloid...
Shalom & Erev tov, Will...I burst out laughing when reading this. It is a demented re-run from warped celluloid...
Michael Pendragon
May 30, 2018, 8:02:46 AM5/30/18
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On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 12:51:53 AM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim haYehu'di wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:39:13 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney composes another Hit Parade reject...
>
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, Will...I burst out laughing when reading this. It is a demented re-run from warped celluloid...
>
Fuck off and die, Pick.
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 9:39:13 PM UTC-7, PaedoBarney composes another Hit Parade reject...
>
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, Will...I burst out laughing when reading this. It is a demented re-run from warped celluloid...
>
See that, Will? It's easy.
drive-by
May 30, 2018, 8:16:46 AM5/30/18
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ME
May 30, 2018, 8:20:23 AM5/30/18
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Good morning Michael.
I saw where you are posting on Columbus Topix.
Travis is there also.
I saw where you are posting on Columbus Topix.
Travis is there also.
ME
May 30, 2018, 8:21:51 AM5/30/18
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Good morning Jim!!!
drive-by
May 30, 2018, 8:23:05 AM5/30/18
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On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 8:21:51 AM UTC-4, ME wrote:
> Good morning Jim!!!
Morning to ya.....
> Good morning Jim!!!
Morning to ya.....
Michael Pendragon
May 30, 2018, 8:27:56 AM5/30/18
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If you saw anything on Topix, it wasn't by me. Will must be forging posts by me there again.
ME
May 30, 2018, 8:30:54 AM5/30/18
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There's a lot of that going on!
Will Dockery
May 30, 2018, 9:44:06 AM5/30/18
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Michael Pendragon
May 30, 2018, 9:44:58 AM5/30/18
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Will Dockery
May 30, 2018, 9:50:31 AM5/30/18
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Maybe you should take your own advice.
:)
Michael Pendragon
May 30, 2018, 9:52:31 AM5/30/18
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Message has been deleted
mydemon...@gmail.com
May 31, 2018, 10:40:18 AM5/31/18
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On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 10:35:04 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Good poem, worth another read.
Go read it then.
Now STFU and die, pissbum.
> Good poem, worth another read.
Go read it then.
Now STFU and die, pissbum.
Will Dockery
Oct 19, 2018, 3:19:43 PM10/19/18
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"Chafetz Chayim benAvraham" wrote in message
news:05d5e78a-84f8-4e25...@googlegroups.com...
Mina Loy, ca. June 1930 mss. 'Jules Pascin',
first published in 1958, Lunar Baedeker & time-tables.
Selected poems (Jonathan Williams). Text below
follows typescript as found in Loy Papers. Yale Collection
of American Literature, Beinecki Library, Yale University,
Box 5 Folder 9.
Jules Pascin, artist, 31 March 1885-5 June 1930 suicide
So this is death
to rise to the occasion
a shadow
to a shadowy persuasion
Pascin has passed
with his affectionate swagger
his air
of the Crown in the role of jester
The side-long derby-slanted Bulgar
cocked his jet eye
in its immaculate leer,
and as a coin,
tossed his destiny
Once a shy ivory boy,
the colour of life
had deepened on his cheek
in a wry irony
Pascin has ceased
to flush with ineffaceable bruises
his innubile Circes
Ceased to dangle
demi-rep angels
in tinsel bordels
Silence bleeds
from his slashed wrists
the dim homunculus
within
cries for the unbirth
The seeds
of his sly spirit
are cast to posterity
in satyric squander
a pigeon-toed populace
whose changeling women
jostle the prodigal son
as swine
Cinderellas awander.
news:05d5e78a-84f8-4e25...@googlegroups.com...
Mina Loy, ca. June 1930 mss. 'Jules Pascin',
first published in 1958, Lunar Baedeker & time-tables.
Selected poems (Jonathan Williams). Text below
follows typescript as found in Loy Papers. Yale Collection
of American Literature, Beinecki Library, Yale University,
Box 5 Folder 9.
Jules Pascin, artist, 31 March 1885-5 June 1930 suicide
So this is death
to rise to the occasion
a shadow
to a shadowy persuasion
Pascin has passed
with his affectionate swagger
his air
of the Crown in the role of jester
The side-long derby-slanted Bulgar
cocked his jet eye
in its immaculate leer,
and as a coin,
tossed his destiny
Once a shy ivory boy,
the colour of life
had deepened on his cheek
in a wry irony
Pascin has ceased
to flush with ineffaceable bruises
his innubile Circes
Ceased to dangle
demi-rep angels
in tinsel bordels
Silence bleeds
from his slashed wrists
the dim homunculus
within
cries for the unbirth
The seeds
of his sly spirit
are cast to posterity
in satyric squander
a pigeon-toed populace
whose changeling women
jostle the prodigal son
as swine
Cinderellas awander.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa
Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
testing... testing...
STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa
Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
General Zod
Oct 24, 2018, 12:22:38 AM10/24/18
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Good Time Charley
Dec 9, 2018, 9:45:17 PM12/9/18
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General Zod
Dec 18, 2018, 2:40:32 AM12/18/18
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General Zod
Dec 19, 2018, 3:47:39 AM12/19/18
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General Zod
Apr 7, 2019, 10:05:27 PM4/7/19
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 5:14:31 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 4:52:19 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 2:55:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > No, I'm a fan of Mina Loy's poetry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To each his own, right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you even understand her poetry?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is her Ode to Jules Paschin poem saying to you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about this passage, Will? What does it mean to you?
> > > >
> > > > No, Will. That's implicit in the poem's title. I'm asking you about the above passage:
> > > >
> > > > What does "innubile" mean?
> > >
> > > I had to look that word up, apparently it is Latin, from:
> > >
> > > http://latin-dictionary.net/definition/23921/innubilus-innubila-innubilum
> > >
> > > Latin definition for:
> > > innubilus, innubila, innubilum
> > >
> > > Definitions:
> > > unclouded, clear
> > >
> > > > What does "demi-rep" mean?
> > >
> > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/demirep
> > >
> > > demirep (plural demireps)
> > > (colloquial, dated) A woman of doubtful reputation or suspected character; an adventuress.
> > >
> > > > Who are his "Circes"?
> > >
> > > Refers to the Greek goddess, I figured, magical, somewhat witchy, untrustworthy ladies?
> > >
> > > > How is a bruise "ineffaceable"? And were it truly ineffaceable, how would it cease to be so in death?
> > >
> > > Undertakers do have a way of giving the corpse a makeover, after all... some makeup, and so on, presto...
> > >
> > > > Is she saying that he was obsessed with frequenting post-menopausal whores who would beat the living crap out of him on such a frequent basis that his bruises never had time to heal?
> > > >
> > > > That's what I'm getting from it. Let's hear your take.
> > >
> > > Jules Paschin did seem to enjoy his ladies of ill repute, he'd probably get the message of "Truck Stop Woman"... might even want to get off on Exit 19 and see for himself...
> > >
> > > :)
> >
> > So we're pretty much agreed that she's saying he was obsessed with frequenting post-menopausal whores who would beat the living crap out of him on such a frequent basis that his bruises never had time to heal.
> >
> > But don't you think this message would come across more clearly, and that the poem would make for a much more enjoyable read, if we didn't have to look up "innubile" and "demi-rep" and figure out how all mixed mythologies (Greek & Hebrew in the quoted passage alone) fit into this high falutin' word soup?
>
> That's Mina Loy's style...
>
> My take on the similar subject (without the mythology or big words) would be more like...
>
> Truck Stop Woman written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley:
>
> https://youtu.be/Ww4IHVAwWNI
>
> Artemis Records Presents-"Truck Stop Woman" featuring Will Dockery, Henry Conley, Gene Woolfolk , Durundo Jenkins, Patricia Suddeth, Dana Dodd, Mike Matthews, Directed by Basil Fitzpatrick and Rusty Wood, Edited by Jamie Mitchell. Audio track recorded and produced at Larry Rose Studio.
>
> :)
Excellent interpretation....
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 4:52:19 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 2:55:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > No, I'm a fan of Mina Loy's poetry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To each his own, right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you even understand her poetry?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is her Ode to Jules Paschin poem saying to you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about this passage, Will? What does it mean to you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pascin has ceased
> > > > > > > to flush with ineffaceable bruises
> > > > > > > his innubile Circes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ceased to dangle
> > > > > > > demi-rep angels
> > > > > > > in tinsel bordels
> > > > >
> > > > > It means that the artist Jules Paschin, the subject of the poem, has died.
> > > > > > > Pascin has ceased
> > > > > > > to flush with ineffaceable bruises
> > > > > > > his innubile Circes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ceased to dangle
> > > > > > > demi-rep angels
> > > > > > > in tinsel bordels
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No, Will. That's implicit in the poem's title. I'm asking you about the above passage:
> > > >
> > > > What does "innubile" mean?
> > >
> > > I had to look that word up, apparently it is Latin, from:
> > >
> > > http://latin-dictionary.net/definition/23921/innubilus-innubila-innubilum
> > >
> > > Latin definition for:
> > > innubilus, innubila, innubilum
> > >
> > > Definitions:
> > > unclouded, clear
> > >
> > > > What does "demi-rep" mean?
> > >
> > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/demirep
> > >
> > > demirep (plural demireps)
> > > (colloquial, dated) A woman of doubtful reputation or suspected character; an adventuress.
> > >
> > > > Who are his "Circes"?
> > >
> > > Refers to the Greek goddess, I figured, magical, somewhat witchy, untrustworthy ladies?
> > >
> > > > How is a bruise "ineffaceable"? And were it truly ineffaceable, how would it cease to be so in death?
> > >
> > > Undertakers do have a way of giving the corpse a makeover, after all... some makeup, and so on, presto...
> > >
> > > > Is she saying that he was obsessed with frequenting post-menopausal whores who would beat the living crap out of him on such a frequent basis that his bruises never had time to heal?
> > > >
> > > > That's what I'm getting from it. Let's hear your take.
> > >
> > > Jules Paschin did seem to enjoy his ladies of ill repute, he'd probably get the message of "Truck Stop Woman"... might even want to get off on Exit 19 and see for himself...
> > >
> > > :)
> >
> > So we're pretty much agreed that she's saying he was obsessed with frequenting post-menopausal whores who would beat the living crap out of him on such a frequent basis that his bruises never had time to heal.
> >
> > But don't you think this message would come across more clearly, and that the poem would make for a much more enjoyable read, if we didn't have to look up "innubile" and "demi-rep" and figure out how all mixed mythologies (Greek & Hebrew in the quoted passage alone) fit into this high falutin' word soup?
>
> That's Mina Loy's style...
>
> My take on the similar subject (without the mythology or big words) would be more like...
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> Truck Stop Woman written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley:
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> https://youtu.be/Ww4IHVAwWNI
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> Artemis Records Presents-"Truck Stop Woman" featuring Will Dockery, Henry Conley, Gene Woolfolk , Durundo Jenkins, Patricia Suddeth, Dana Dodd, Mike Matthews, Directed by Basil Fitzpatrick and Rusty Wood, Edited by Jamie Mitchell. Audio track recorded and produced at Larry Rose Studio.
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> :)
Excellent interpretation....
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