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[David Dalton]

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On June 12, 1997, in Wordplay bookstore in downtown St. John's, I thumbed at
random an edition of Shelley, and on the page with Ozymandias was a poem with
a rose in it. But that day I didn't buy the book. The next day, forgetting
the name of the poem, I decided to walk back to the bookstore to check it
again. As I walked west on Water Street in St. John's, Newfoundland. Radio
station Magic 97 (FM)'s van was playing the song CONSTANCE by Ron and Connie
Hynes from Ron Hynes's CD Face to the Gale. Shortly after that I went into
Wordplay bookstore to buy a card and also while there glanced in the
paperback The Works of P.B.Shelley; Wordsworth Editions, Cumberland House,
England, ISBN 1-85326-408-3. The poem was just before Ozymandias and was To
CONSTANTIA. I wasn't meaning to buy the book, but had to, from the owner
James Baird..

Now here is the poem:

TO CONSTANTIA

The rose that drinks the fountain dew
In the pleasant air of noon
Grows pale and blue with altered hue---
In the gaze of the nightly moon;
For the planet of frost, so cold and bright,
Makes it wan with her borrowed light.

Such is my heart---roses are fair,
And that at best a withered blossom;
But thy false care did idly wear
Its withered leaves in a faithless bosom!
And fed with love, like air and dew,
Its growth----

Of course that is especially significant because of my
September 6, 1991 blue rose vision.

--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

[David Dalton]

[Michael Pendragon]

Thank you for telling us why this poem has significance for you.

I wish that others who post poetry by well known authors (cough! Jordy!, cough! Dunce!) will take note and follow your example.

[Will Dockery]

Interesting backstory, David, I noticed blue is a significant color for you, same here.

[Michael Pendragon]

Your ignorance is showing again, Donkey.

The "Blue Rose" is a Jainian symbol that represents a longing for the mysterious and unattainable. It is "The Impossible Dream."

[Will Donkey]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:29:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:

You like blue. Me like blue too.

Hee-Haw!

[Will Dockery]

I don't claim to know everything, Pendragon.

> The "Blue Rose" is a Jainian symbol that represents a longing for the mysterious and unattainable. It is "The Impossible Dream."

Thanks for the heads up.

🙂

[NancyGene]

The Dockery family search for a brain: unattainable.

[Will Dockery]

NancyGene wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:38:28 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:29:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:17:46 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> > >

>> > Interesting backstory, David, I noticed blue is a significant color for you, same here.

>> > > --
>> > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
>> > > "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
>> > > And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)
>>

>> The "Blue Rose" is a Jainian symbol that represents a longing for the mysterious and unattainable. It is "The Impossible Dream."

> The Dockery family xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx

Troll much, Nancy Gene?

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

Actually David gave you the heads up when he posted a quote about the alchemists' stone.

Context matters.

[Will Dockery]

So you Googled it, good work.

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

No, Donkey. I've spent my life studying Buddhism, Alchemy, and Mysticism in general.

The Blue Rose is a well known symbol. Hell, David Lynch even made a reference to it in Twin Peaks, Season 3.

You claimed to have been a Shaman at one point in (what passes for) you life... I'm surprised that you're unfamiliar with it.

[Will Dockery]

I didn't expect you to admit it.

🙂

[Michael Pendragon]

POSTED TO

"A YEAR OF SUNDAYS" - SUBMISSIONS - September 2023

Sep 3, 2023, 4:23:08 AM

THE BLUE ROSE

Somewhere a rose of cobalt blue
Blooms by a woodland stream,
Kissed by the breezes passing through,
Lost in a lover's dream.

Far from the clutch of pick-purse time
Brief as a rainbow's end,
Teasing my soul with thoughts sublime
Always around the bend.

Love called to me one Summer day
Warm as a rose in bloom,
Love spoke my name, then turned away
Fleeting as rose perfume.

Somewhere a rose's petals fell
Blue as a Summer sky,
Life came along to break the spell
Letting love's flower die.

Somewhere a lover seeks a rose
Blue as a Winter star,
Gone faraway where no one knows,
Gone where the old years are

Rolled like the heavens in a scroll
Beyond the brink of night,
Hidden within a broken soul
Always just out of sight.

-- Michael Pendragon

*****

Ostensibly, it's a love poem; however, those in the know can appreciate it on a higher level.

[NancyGene]

And a fine poem it is. Even for a Donkey, ignorance is no excuse.

[Will Dockery]

"Ignorant trolling is no excuse." ^^^^^^^^^

[Michael Pendragon]

NancyGene is pointing out an all-too-obvious truth, Donkey.

You should reexamine what took place here, and make a sincere attempt to learn from your mistakes.

[Will Dockery]

Trolling, as usual.

HTH and HAND.

[Michael Pendragon]

This should be added to the Treaty terms as well: No one may poet-edit other people's posts.

[Will Dockery]

"Except for brevity."

[Michael Pendragon]

Ideally, yes.

For the present, no.

Until some semblance of mutual trust has been established between both "sides," I think it best not to leave any loopholes.

[Will Dockery]

No editing at all would lead to some cluttered threads.

[Cujo DeSockpuppet]

Michael Pendragon <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4f00a713-61ca-414a...@googlegroups.com:

Trust snippage from the Dreckweasel? That'll be the day. We've proven
that Dreckster copies from other threads and inserts them into the
present threads for decades.

His creative "editing" is legendary. I view any provable instances of
this as a violation. That means Duckery will do it within the first hour
and see if anyone notices.

In any case, giving that guy license to amend a rule later only means he
will and leave it as a fait accompli. You can't appease delusional
narcissists, it doesn't ever work without additional inducements to not
do it again.

Here's my proposal:
You want to snip, start a new thread with a pointer back to the original
post. Message-IDs are acceptable. This is standard Usenet etiquette.

--
"I've been writing poetry for nearly fifty years, rest assured it's a
poem, Pendragon." - Will Dockery demonstrating why he's a douchebag.

[Will Dockery]

> > > > > > > The "Blue Rose" is a Jainian symbol that represents a longing for the mysterious and unattainable. It is "The Impossible Dream."
> > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.
> > >

First time I've seen this one.

I'll grant you, this is a pretty good poem, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

[ME]

On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 19:26:57 UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> No editing at all would lead to some cluttered threads.

BWAHAHAHA. BWAHAHAHA
That response was fucking the most ludicrous thing you’ve posted today.
Y’all have got threads that you’ve intentionally bombarded with stupid hello’s, good day’s and equally dumb responses. And you’re worried about over posting in threads.
You are a fucking idiot if you think that one will fly here.

[Will Dockery]

Sorry, the concept I'm talking about obviously went over your head.

No surprise there.

🙂

[General-Zod]

Good choice of poem, I enjoy the works of Shelley...

[Faraway Star]

> > > > The "Blue Rose" is a Jainian symbol that represents a longing for the mysterious and unattainable. It is "The Impossible Dream."
> > > Thanks for the heads up.
> > Actually David gave you the heads up when he posted a quote about the alchemists' stone.
> So you Googled it, good work.

Ha ha.