San Diego State U advanced painting class exhibit
Edmond Wollmann
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Edmond Wollmann
> November 22 to 30th in the 5th floor art Gallery.
In the Flory Y Canto Gallery!
Right after the New Moon in Sagittarius, sextiling Neptune:-)
Spamster_<"uce"@ftc.góv>
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> "Edmond Wollmann" <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote
>
> > November 22 to 30th in the 5th floor art Gallery.
>
> In the Flory Y Canto Gallery!
>
> Right after the New Moon in Sagittarius, sextiling Neptune:-)
>
> --
> Edmond H. Wollmann K.O.O.K
Yawn.
Sherilyn
>
>
> Right after the New Moon in Sagittarius, sextiling Neptune:-)
Sounds like a perfect time for vandalism!
Your paintings suck SHIT, Wollmann!
~T
Edmond Wollmann wrote in message ...
>"Edmond Wollmann" <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote
>
>> November 22 to 30th in the 5th floor art Gallery.
>
>
>Right after the New Moon in Sagittarius, sextiling Neptune:-)
>
>
>Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
>© 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
>Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/sux
>http://www.asstroconsulting.com/FAQs/tableof.htm
>
The 12th of never, no doubt.
Sherilyn
Spamster, uce wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > "Edmond Wollmann" <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote
> >
> > > November 22 to 30th in the 5th floor art Gallery.
> >
> > In the Flory Y Canto Gallery!
> >
> > Right after the New Moon in Sagittarius, sextiling Neptune:-)
> >
> > --
> > Edmond H. Wollmann K.O.O.K
>
> Yawn.
Hey Cujo!
Shall we make a date and stalk some paintings?
You bring the battery acid, I'll bring the Xacto knives?
JUST KIDDING!
Cujo
Sherilyn wrote in message <3A200483...@wollmann.com>...
>
>
>Spamster, uce wrote:
>>
>> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>> > "Edmond Wollmann" <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Right after the New Moon in Sagittarius, sextiling Neptune:-)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Edmond H. Wollmann K.O.O.K
>>
>> Yawn.
>
>Hey Cujo!
>
>Shall we make a date and stalk some paintings?
>
>You bring the battery acid, I'll bring the Xacto knives?
>
>JUST KIDDING!
I'm in the neighborhood tomorrow, I'll pop in then. I'm just bringing a
camera and a field kookology book.
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>In the Flory Y Canto Gallery!
So? Being is a class exhibit is hardly something you should be
bragging about. Especially since too much of your "art" is
simply plagiarized.
--
"I drove to LA last night !!!! Where is it you say you
lived? I will come and visit while I am here."
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM,
convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year 1998,
the Ted Kennedy of astrologers, Village Idiot Award winner,
dumpster diver
http://lart.com/ed/
http://www.shore.net/~a/wollmann/faves.html
http://www.rahul.net/falk/quickrefs.html#wollman
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Scarlett
rec.arts.fine!
Someone devoted time from their life to set up an ISP abuse
webpage for another individual?
And I thought rec.arts.finers were pathetic!
We've a lot to learn...
--
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http://ScarlettDecker.homestead.com
"Do you know what he needs? Two or three shock treatments,"
Mary George said. "Get that artist business right out of his
head once
and for all." (from "An Enduring Chill" by Flannery O'Connor)
Thomas Ziorjen
> It's nice to see another ng with even more kooks than
> rec.arts.fine!
>
> Someone devoted time from their life to set up an ISP abuse
> webpage for another individual?
>
> And I thought rec.arts.finers were pathetic!
>
> We've a lot to learn...
>
Scarlett,
I love Alison's pet name for raf... rec.arse.find
Thomas
online portfolio:
http://mypage.uniserve.ca/~sn3222
http://www.egroups.com/group/artlives
http://artlives.homestead.com
Sherilyn
predictor, plagiarist, thief, asshole, spammer, big-time multiple ISP
account loser, physical stalker, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a
misdemeanor (PC 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation,
sued for Unlawful Detainer and evicted in 3/96, past violator of Federal
and State game laws for abusing wildlife, described and punished as an
abuser by SDSU, and remorseless confessed killer of another human being wrote:
>
> "Edmond Wollmann" <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote
>
> > November 22 to 30th in the 5th floor art Gallery.
>
> In the Flory Y Canto Gallery!
>
It's the FLOR Y CANTO Gallery, you fucking MORON!
And it doesn't have your shit scheduled. Looka heah:
FALL 2000 EXHIBITION SCHEDULE
UNIVERSITY ART GALLERY
"2000 Faculty Exhibition"
September 11 - 30, 2000
Opening Reception: Friday, September 15th,
6:00-8:00 PM
Gallery hours: Monday - Thursday & Saturday,
12:00-4:00PM
"Alfredo Jaar: Waiting"
October 21 - December 2, 2000
Opening Reception: Friday, October 20th,
6:00-8:00 PM
Gallery hours: Monday - Thursday & Saturday, 12:00-4:00PM
EVERETT GEE JACKSON & FLOR y CANTO GALLERIES
Graduate Review Exhibition
October 16-November 1, 2000
Gala Opening October 20th, 6:00-8:00 PM
Gallery hours: Monday - Friday, 10:00-3:00 PM
EVERETT GEE JACKSON GALLERY
November 13-16
Ingrid Psuty, MFA
Thesis Exhibition in Metals
FLOR Y CANTO GALLERY
September 8-14
"Body" group
exhibition, painting graduate students Michiko
Kinoshita, Christina
Li and Anna Stump
September 4-7
"Metalicious! Works in
Metal: the Recent and the Fabulous,
metals graduate students
November 13-16
Annua Stump
performance video forum
November 27-30
Janet Cooling's
Advanced Drawing Class, Art 504 group
exhibition
December 2-7
Laurel Nathanson, MFA
Thesis Exhibition in Metals "Neoteny"
Sherilyn
Student News
School of Art,
Design and Art History
San Diego State University
FALL 2000
SPRING 2000 DEAN'S LIST
In order to be eligible for the Dean's List, a student
must be a declared, undergraduate Art major. Students
must place within the top 10% of the College of
Professional Studies and Fine Arts and have a grade
point average of at least 3.50 on a minimum of 12 units
of credit for courses in which letter grades were assigned.
Congratulations to the following Art majors who made the Dean's list
for Spring 2000
(Edddie's not on it!):
Lea Anderson
Jocelyne Brystron
Bobbie Fischer
Shannon Curington
Amber Hall
Jessalie Hinton-Scott
Bryan Kinyoun
Alison Philbin
Kevin Russell
Maria Hall Lorraine
Warner-Slojkowski
Jana Monroe
Sarah Slagter
Delphine Desbrosses
Robert Fausett
Ronda Miles-Poole
Jessica Windsor
Luis Arellano
Garrick Oliver
Laura Bailey
Elizabeth Bernhardt
Ashley Brooks
Sarah Caughlin
Kristina Domich
Annika Esmay
Matthew Grady
David Halloran
Andrea Gregg
Sarah Madia
Lindy Martin
Kathleen McCabe
James McCord
Ellen Moffett
Karla Morrell
Kelly Rice
Veronica Rourke
Sandra Schiller
Elizabeth Sears
Jennifer Seeley
Mathilda Whitehead
Gretchen Adams
Laura Rulon
Sima Savarani
Genevieve Talbott
Anthony Kirwan
Mark Hugunin
Sarah Layne
Xuchi Naungayan
Lynette Young
Dianne Allen
Cujo
Sherilyn wrote in message <3A206519...@wollmann.com>...
>
> Student News
>
> School of Art,
>Design and Art History
> San Diego State
University
>
>
> FALL 2000
>
>
>SPRING 2000 DEAN'S LIST
>
>In order to be eligible for the Dean's List, a student
>must be a declared, undergraduate Art major. Students
>must place within the top 10% of the College of
>Professional Studies and Fine Arts and have a grade
>point average of at least 3.50 on a minimum of 12 units
>of credit for courses in which letter grades were assigned.
>
>
> Congratulations to the following Art majors who made the Dean's list
>for Spring 2000
>(Edddie's not on it!):
What an out of integrity scumbag!
Here lies Wollmann.
Again.
BTW Eddieee. I'll be by tomorrow to look (and laugh) at your work. Alert
security, I'll be armed with a camera. Have them ready to do full cavity
searches on everyone. You never know which one will be me. But then again,
you have me listed on your page of hate as being in Denver. I must really be
obsessive to fly all the way there. Better have a police escort ready so you
can effect a citizens arrest like you threatened the last time. Too bad you
were too chickenshit to have lunch in a public place, kook.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Did you have a question about how the ALL THAT IS is reflected through
astrology? I was an astrologer 1000 times in Babylon.
- Ed Wollmann, THE #1 delusional kook explains his past.
Cujo - Lumber Cartel #2324
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>
> It's nice to see another ng with even more kooks than
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>
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>
> And I thought rec.arts.finers were pathetic!
>
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> BTW Eddieee. I'll be by tomorrow to look (and laugh) at your work. Alert
> security, I'll be armed with a camera. Have them ready to do full cavity
> searches on everyone. You never know which one will be me. But then again,
> you have me listed on your page of hate as being in Denver. I must really be
> obsessive to fly all the way there. Better have a police escort ready so you
> can effect a citizens arrest like you threatened the last time. Too bad you
> were too chickenshit to have lunch in a public place, kook.
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Scarlett wrote:
>
> Nah Thomas, we are tame - rather dull even. The other group says
> the "F" word in every post and here I got in trouble just for
> discussing Alison's "Blow-Job" with (you-know-who).
>
> At least they don't seem boring though I frequent dumpsters
> myself at times.
>
> What group ARE they? Do you know? I'm moving there! I'm
> intrigued...
>
> (This must be how the people in alt.postmodernism feel when
> someone cross-posts rec.arts.fine idiotic ranting there.)
Enjoy your stay, even if you are a fucking dumpster diver! Welcome! ;-)
>
> --
> Scarlett
> http://ScarlettDecker.homestead.com
>
> "Do you know what he needs? Two or three shock treatments,"
> Mary George said. "Get that artist business right out of his
> head once
> and for all." (from "An Enduring Chill" by Flannery O'Connor)
>
> "Thomas Ziorjen" <thomas_...@sunshine.net> wrote in message
> news:3A203849...@sunshine.net...
> : Scarlett wrote:
> :
> : > It's nice to see another ng with even more kooks than
> : > rec.arts.fine!
> : >
> : > Someone devoted time from their life to set up an ISP abuse
> : > webpage for another individual?
> : >
> : > And I thought rec.arts.finers were pathetic!
> : >
> : > We've a lot to learn...
> : >
> :
> : Scarlett,
> :
> :
> :
Scarlett
the "F" word in every post and here I got in trouble just for
discussing Alison's "Blow-Job" with (you-know-who).
At least they don't seem boring though I frequent dumpsters
myself at times.
What group ARE they? Do you know? I'm moving there! I'm
intrigued...
(This must be how the people in alt.postmodernism feel when
someone cross-posts rec.arts.fine idiotic ranting there.)
Alison A Raimes
<scarl...@theriver.com> writes
>Nah Thomas, we are tame - rather dull even. The other group says
>the "F" word in every post and here I got in trouble just for
>discussing Alison's "Blow-Job" with (you-know-who).
Er, Moaning Marilyn the Miserable, I think you mean? The one who has
never had the joy of oral sex? You were naughty for discussing it,
Scarlett.
I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
I'm sure I must be one ;-)
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Cujo
Alison A Raimes wrote in message ...
>In article <cz3U5.1113$IP1.1...@news1.giganews.com>, Scarlett
><scarl...@theriver.com> writes
>>Nah Thomas, we are tame - rather dull even. The other group says
>>the "F" word in every post and here I got in trouble just for
>>discussing Alison's "Blow-Job" with (you-know-who).
>
>Er, Moaning Marilyn the Miserable, I think you mean? The one who has
>never had the joy of oral sex? You were naughty for discussing it,
>Scarlett.
>
>I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
>I'm sure I must be one ;-)
Here's one of my favorites:
Here's a page devoted to kooks:
http://jre.hostingcheck.com/kooks/
Here's another:
www.plonk.com
HTH!
Alison A Raimes
performance-art.org> writes
>Here's one of my favorites:
>
>www.lart.com/ed
>
>Here's a page devoted to kooks:
>http://jre.hostingcheck.com/kooks/
>
>Here's another:
>www.plonk.com
>
>HTH!
I *am* a kook!!!! and there are people who are even more sad than the
Bore Broebeck. She devotes part of her site to those she gets frustrated
with on Usenet. How about that ...........?
Frazer Irving
used probably far better spelling and gramma than me whilst writing;
> In article <8vro3m$6c0$1...@valis.databasix.com>, Cujo <cujo@usenet-
> performance-art.org> writes
>
>> Here's one of my favorites:
>>
>> www.lart.com/ed
>>
>> Here's a page devoted to kooks:
>> http://jre.hostingcheck.com/kooks/
>>
>> Here's another:
>> www.plonk.com
>>
>> HTH!
>
>
> I *am* a kook!!!! and there are people who are even more sad than the
> Bore Broebeck. She devotes part of her site to those she gets frustrated
> with on Usenet. How about that ...........?
Ok, I'll bite; I gotta admit I was a bit freaked when the torrent of posts
quite angrily attacking that woolman chap...but I sniffed around the links
to webpages on each message and I got a better view of the "drama"...
Still ain't figured what a "kook" is tho...
Yobtra (from alt.art.illustration, the quiet newsgroup)
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Alison A Raimes
<fra...@frazerirving.com> writes
>Ok, I'll bite; I gotta admit I was a bit freaked when the torrent of posts
>quite angrily attacking that woolman chap...but I sniffed around the links
>to webpages on each message and I got a better view of the "drama"...
Don't you have better things to do ;-)
>
>Still ain't figured what a "kook" is tho...
>
me neither ..... but I'm still sure I am one.
>
>Yobtra (from alt.art.illustration, the quiet newsgroup)
Really. Liked your site though - it was fun to go poking around to see
what was hidden. I didn't like it that you assumed only the male
population would visit though.
BTW, what sort of amateur outfit is *Eastside collective* ? A handful of
........ who knows. There are over five thousand artists in the East End
of London. Fancy your mates having the audacity to think a handful of
hopefuls could reflect the art there. Check out the *Regeneration and
the Premises Crisis* paper newly published on my site if you want to
find out what is happening in the East End.
Frazer Irving
used probably far better spelling and gramma than me whilst writing;
> In article <B6472D63.BF24%fra...@frazerirving.com>, Frazer Irving
> <fra...@frazerirving.com> writes
>
>> Ok, I'll bite; I gotta admit I was a bit freaked when the torrent of posts
>> quite angrily attacking that woolman chap...but I sniffed around the links
>> to webpages on each message and I got a better view of the "drama"...
>
> Don't you have better things to do ;-)
>>
Yes but they can be beaten into submission so I can get on with some quality
timewasting.
>>
>> Yobtra (from alt.art.illustration, the quiet newsgroup)
>
> Really. Liked your site though - it was fun to go poking around to see
> what was hidden. I didn't like it that you assumed only the male
> population would visit though.
The majority of the audience I have IS male according to marketing bods and
their cohorts...not sure how to even it all out without losing the sense of
fun tho...
>
> BTW, what sort of amateur outfit is *Eastside collective* ? A handful of
> ........ who knows. There are over five thousand artists in the East End
> of London. Fancy your mates having the audacity to think a handful of
> hopefuls could reflect the art there. Check out the *Regeneration and
> the Premises Crisis* paper newly published on my site if you want to
> find out what is happening in the East End.
To be honest I include a few links purely out of freindship other than a
case of actually liking their work...I tink the site ye refer to is one of
many wannabee east end cockney sparrah art sites which think it must be easy
to do a collective site for the art out here...Personally I like to focus on
individual pages rather than "group" efforts but I am a bit of a snob.
*stirs tea with little finger*
And regarding the art of the east End...I'm afraid 3 years of art sckool
kinda put me off a lot of contemporary art movements. I'm hoping to wait
another decade until the psychological scars have faded and then I can rush
out into Mile End and greet the art establishment (or a billion and one
Kebab shops)
Ah well, the nite draws near and I have naked ladies to draw (yet
again...tsk, the life of an illustrator eh?)
Yobtra
Beep
<E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>In article <lDH4bLAk...@raimes.com>,
> Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com> wrote:
>
>> I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
>> I'm sure I must be one ;-)
>
>A kook is what the imbeciles ---who spend their entire life on usenet
>only to defame people who's beliefs they do not agree with-- call
>people who are intelligent, competant and see through their spinicism
>(see below for spinicism definition).
A kook is in the eye of the beholder.
For example, I consider this page to give good information about a
troublesome kook:
HTH,
Pam
email address: beep at west dot net
Rheumatic Disease info: http://www.silcom.com/~sblc
Happy Holiday Season 2000!
Яллю
Cujo
Edmond Wollmann wrote in message ...
> Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com> wrote:
>
>> I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
>> I'm sure I must be one ;-)
>
>A kook is what the imbeciles ---who spend their entire life on usenet
>only to defame people who's beliefs they do not agree with-- call
>people who are intelligent, competant and see through their spinicism
>because they are bested and can only resort to defective fallacious
>personal attacks, because all else including feeble attempts at logic
>has failed in their attempt to defame those who are superior to them.
This is just plain kooky! AUK added! You, superior? Tipping valets at a
classy La Jolla restaurant with food stamps sure is a sign of superior
intellect. Especially since you obviously weren't paying for it.
>Most people are easily duped by spin (as is evidence by the raving
>maniacal responses of people about the election scenario) because they
>are not raised with critical thinking skills. Hence, because spinics
>have no life and can spin all day, whilst kooks are usually intelligent
>and productive and can't, the rubes who read usenet groups end up
>thinking there is something to the kook idea, when in reality, the
>disturbed ones are the spinics. Get that?
You are productive? What do you contribute to society, kook? You have no job
and haven't had one for some time. You live off others and are a parasite
that is anything but benign. You dive into dumpsters for Xmas presents. You
are a waste and a proven liar.
>I have clearly defined and exposed the spinics' kook non-sense many
>times.
>
>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/propagan.htm
>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm
You had to cite the page of your paranoid rants. You certainly have a way of
torpedoing your own arguments.
>What is a "spinic?"
>
>A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort. This
>is bigotry, not skepticism. Propaganda is then "spun" against the
>paradigm/person and they are religiously and zealously defamed
>(evidenced by the multitude of defamation sites under my name-none of
>which evidence any truth whatever). The individual or groups then hold
>dogmatically onto their fallacious refutation despite all discrediting,
>academic refutation, or current/past acceptance by a large majority of
>said paradigm by the populace. This is called religion.
KOOK!!!!!
>Spinic's actions betray their stated goals of "skepticism" by the
>malicious defamation they perpetrate. Their continued hounding and
>defamation of those they are bigoted against continues unabated despite
>evidence of the validity and value of the paradigms they seek to
>denigrate, from their bigotry not logic. Their psychological denial of
>facts, refutations, and evidenced constructiveness of the paradigms
>they seek to denigrate only evidences their own insecurity and
>intellectual deficiency. Ignored are the rights, dignity, choice or
>desire for preference of the individuals/groups they seek to destroy
>through this propagandic spin and defamation.
Too bad it's all true and you are a proven liar. Making up a word and then
defining it is pretty goddamn kooky.
screed snipped.
Spamster_<"uce"@ftc.góv>
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> In article <lDH4bLAk...@raimes.com>,
> Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com> wrote:
>
> > I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
> > I'm sure I must be one ;-)
>
> A kook is
Someone who's been spanked off of SDSU's servers for abuse, such as eddie
boy wollmann.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.130.188.181
Pookie
Edmond Heinz Wollmann, aA confessed but remorseless killer of a child (I
shit you not) wrote:
>
> In article <lDH4bLAk...@raimes.com>,
> Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com> wrote:
>
> > I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
> > I'm sure I must be one ;-)
>
> A kook is
You, Eddie.
Your bandwidth-wasting off-topic rant is not welcome. Freak!
Mo R. Fenoffen
predictor, plagiarist, thief, asshole, spammer, big-time multiple ISP
account loser, physical stalker, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a
misdemeanor (PC 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation,
sued for Unlawful Detainer and evicted in 3/96, past violator of Federal
and State game laws for abusing wildlife, described and punished as an
abuser by SDSU, and remorseless confessed killer of another human being wrote:
...
> Hence, "spinics" call kooks kooks
> because they are bested and can only resort to defective fallacious
> personal attacks, because all else including feeble attempts at logic
> has failed in their attempt to defame those who are superior to them.
Ed, you just said that spinics call kooks kooks for a certain reason.
I disagree.
I think spinics call kooks kooks because kooks ARE kooks, KOOOOOK!
Edmond Wollmann
Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com> wrote:
> I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
> I'm sure I must be one ;-)
A kook is what the imbeciles ---who spend their entire life on usenet
only to defame people who's beliefs they do not agree with-- call
people who are intelligent, competant and see through their spinicism
(see below for spinicism definition). Hence, "spinics" call kooks kooks
because they are bested and can only resort to defective fallacious
personal attacks, because all else including feeble attempts at logic
has failed in their attempt to defame those who are superior to them.
Most people are easily duped by spin (as is evidence by the raving
maniacal responses of people about the election scenario) because they
are not raised with critical thinking skills. Hence, because spinics
have no life and can spin all day, whilst kooks are usually intelligent
and productive and can't, the rubes who read usenet groups end up
thinking there is something to the kook idea, when in reality, the
disturbed ones are the spinics. Get that?
I have clearly defined and exposed the spinics' kook non-sense many
times.
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/propagan.htm
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm
What is a "spinic?"
A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort. This
is bigotry, not skepticism. Propaganda is then "spun" against the
paradigm/person and they are religiously and zealously defamed
(evidenced by the multitude of defamation sites under my name-none of
which evidence any truth whatever). The individual or groups then hold
dogmatically onto their fallacious refutation despite all discrediting,
academic refutation, or current/past acceptance by a large majority of
said paradigm by the populace. This is called religion.
Spinic's actions betray their stated goals of "skepticism" by the
malicious defamation they perpetrate. Their continued hounding and
defamation of those they are bigoted against continues unabated despite
evidence of the validity and value of the paradigms they seek to
denigrate, from their bigotry not logic. Their psychological denial of
facts, refutations, and evidenced constructiveness of the paradigms
they seek to denigrate only evidences their own insecurity and
intellectual deficiency. Ignored are the rights, dignity, choice or
desire for preference of the individuals/groups they seek to destroy
through this propagandic spin and defamation.
The indices listed below are valid referenced academic areas of
accepted knowledge that refutes and describes the fallacious and
defective arguments of the typical spinic's attempts to "color" their
defamation as "argument" or disagreement.
CYNIC=From the Greek kynikos, -doglike, churlish. Philos. one of a sect
of ancient Greek philosophers who taught that pleasure is an evil if
sought for its own sake, and made an ostentatious show of contempt for
riches and enjoyment.; sneering faultfinder; one who disbelieves in the
goodness of human motives, and who is given to displaying his disbelief
by sneers and sarcasm-cynicism=the practice of a cynic; a morose
contempt of the pleasures and arts in life. Lexicon/Webster
Ig no rant=Deficient of knowledge of either general information or a
specific field; uninformed; untaught; unenlightened-ignorance, the
state of being ignorant, or of lacking knowledge; the condition of not
being cognizant or aware of. Lexicon/Webster..between ignoramus and
ignore.
Bigot=a person intolerant of creeds, opinions etc. other than his own.
(Webster College Dict.)
Case # 3,539,081
Conclusion-cynical and unable to acknowledge larger frameworks within
which fragmented knowledge fits.
Psych-Inferiority, persistent feeling that one does not measure up to
societal standards and personal fictional standards. Ego lock on
physicality and the belief that only psychic material accessible to
egoistic functions is "real."
Habitual responses. Inability for holistic cognitions.
Philo-The desire to participate in emotivism and the inability to
remove such judgments. Begging the question vicious and cyclic
argumentation which denies purposeful existence other than to prove
pointlessness. Fear that existence is pointless and construct
development to reinforce this conclusion. Pleasure derived from
invalidating arguments that inspire and improve the human condition.
Inability to understand coherence theory of truth. Inability to
understand the pragmatic theory of truth.
Frequently indulges in the logical defect fallacies of;
"Fallacy of suppressed evidence"The requirement of a true premises
includes the proviso that the premises not ignore some important piece
of evidence that outweighs the presented evidence and entails a very
different conclusion.
"Red Herring" fallacy="The red herring fallacy is committed when the
arguer diverts the attention of the reader by changing the subject to
some totally different issue.
"Missing the point" another fallacy of relevance-The conclusion of the
argument is irrelevant to the premises. "Missing the point illustrates
a special form of irrelevance. This fallacy occurs when the premises of
an argument support one particular conclusion, but then a different
conclusion, often vaguely related to the correct conclusion is drawn.
"Begging the question" occurs when an arguer uses some form of
phraseology that tends to conceal the questionably true character of a
key premise. If the reader or the listener is deceived into thinking
that a key premise is true, he or she will accept the argument as
sound, when in fact, it may not be.
"Appeal to the People" (Argumentum ad Populum)
Nearly everyone wants to be loved, esteemed, admired, valued, recog-
nized, and accepted by others. The appeal to the people uses these
desires to get the reader or listener to accept a conclusion. Two
approaches are involved, one of them direct, the other indirect.
The direct approach occurs when an arguer, addressing a large group of
people, excites the emotions and enthusiasm of the crowd to win
acceptance for his conclusion. The objective is to arouse a kind of mob
mentality. (the usenet group alt.usenet.kooks is used solely for this
defect).
Their favorite and highly relied upon one is called "Argument Against
the Person" (Argumentum ad Hominem)
This fallacy always involves two arguers. One of them advances (either
directly or implicitly) a certain argument, and the other then responds
by directing his or her attention not to the first person's argument
but to the first person himself. When this occurs, the second person is
said to commit an argument against the person.
"Bandwagon Argument" A variety of the "Appeal to the people" fallacy
that occurs when the arguer plays on the reader's or listener's need to
feel a part of the group (or to down another group). In the indirect
approach the arguer directs his or her appeal not to the crowd as a
whole but to one or more individuals separately, focusing upon some
aspect of their relationship to the crowd. The indirect approach
includes such specific forms as the bandwagon argument, the appeal to
vanity, and the appeal to snobbery. All are standard techniques of the
advertising industry. Here is an example of the bandwagon argument;
"Of course you will want to buy Zest toothpaste. Why, 90% of America
brushes with Zest."
Or
"Of course you will want to demean and defame Edmond Wollmann. Why, 90%
of alt.usenet kooks (not even 1% of usenet) voted him a kook."
Because spinics will try to discredit THESE accepted delineations, it
should be noted these definitions are taken from an academic work used
in colleges and Universities, Logic, 4th Edition Hurley, University of
San Diego, Wadsworth Publishing, 1991, page 128, "Informal Fallacies".
Sci-Participates in repeated inductive generalizations. Materialism
focused and rigid. Believes that because information not cognizable by
the ego self, it must not exist, delusional and inability for rigorous
investigation prior to conclusions. Projects that "others" are guilty
of this.
Conclusion-Perspective alteration necessary. Insists on misery and
negativity in order to resist the slightest appearance of a
relinquishment of control-which inadvertently reinforces inferiority
feelings. Denial. No known remediation at this point. Likelihood of
future crisis in perspective great.
Mature individuals can agree to disagree and recognize that often
disagreements simply boil down to preferences. There is no one truth,
except that the truth is the composition of all truths.
Analytical discernment begs for efficiency. I therefore respectfully
beg to differ with spinics and offer sincere success in their future
search for truths (should they decide to act on their preferences and
stop trying to defeat others preferences).
There is no one truth EXCEPT that THE truth is the composition of all
truths. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence-it may be a
difference in root assumptions.
My particular "Universes of inquiry" are psychology and astrology, I
respect all inquiry and the paradigms that articulate them.
Paradigms form from sets of beliefs and assumptions. To clarify the
idea of paradigms here is a quote from experimentation in abnormal
psychology taken from Thomas Kuhn's view, author of the widely
acknowledged "The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions";
"We believe every effort should be made to study abnormal behavior
according to scientific principles. It should be clear at this point
however, that science is NOT a completely objective and certain
enterprise. Rather, as we can infer by the comment from Kuhn,
subjective factors, as well as limitations in our perspective on the
universe, enter into the conduct of scientific enquiry. Central to any
application of scientific principles, in Kuhn's view, is the concept of
a paradigm, a conceptual framework or approach within which a scientist
works. A paradigm according to Kuhn, is a set of basic assumptions that
outline the PARTICULAR UNIVERSE OF SCIENTIFIC ENQUIRY..." (my emphasis)
In addition to injecting inevitable biases into the definition and
collection of data, a paradigm may also affect the interpretation of
facts. In other words, the meaning or import given to data may depend
to a considerable extent on a paradigm.
University of Southern California", State University of New York"
Davidson and Neale, 6th edition, 1996. Wiley and sons publishers.
"The decision to employ a particular piece of apparatus
and to use it in a particular way carries with it an assumption that
only certain sorts of circumstances will arise.
Normal science research is a strenuous and devoted attempt
to force nature into the conceptual boxes supplied by the professional
education. Anomalies are disregarded because they do not articulate the
paradigm" (Thomas Kuhn).
Or as Einstein said "It is the theory that determines what we observe."
In short paradigmatical definitions (beliefs) can affect perception.
We don't live by logic and facts we live by trust-if you disagree with
this premise, provide the factual basis and logical reason and/or
purposes for living. If you can't produce any I suggest you stop living
because there is no evidence or "facts" available to justify and
quantify doing it anymore.
"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without
integrity is dangerous and dreadful" Samuel Johnson
Skeptic=One who doubts the truth of any principle or system of
principles or doctrines. Questioning in the search for truth.
Cynic=a sneering faultfinder; one who disbelieves in the goodness of
human motives, and who is given to displaying his disbelief by sneers
and sarcasm.
"Knowledge is proud that he has learned so much;
Wisdom is humble that he knows no more"
William Cowper "The Task bk vi"
"The Winter Walk at Noon"
Woodenheaded thinking="assessing a situation in terms of preconceived
fixed notions while ignoring or rejecting any contrary signs" (Tuchman,
1984, p. 7).
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>A kook is what the imbeciles ---who spend their entire life on usenet
>only to defame people who's beliefs they do not agree with-- call
>people who are intelligent, competant and see through their spinicism
>(see below for spinicism definition).
Translation: Edie's a kook (amoung other worse things) and doesn't
like it being pointed out.
--
"How would you know what my dick is like? It is quite normal and average--thank
you."
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM,
convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year 1998,
the Ted Kennedy of astrologers, Village Idiot Award winner,
dumpster diver
http://lart.com/ed/
http://www.shore.net/~a/wollmann/faves.html
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=541493235&fmt=text
http://www.rahul.net/falk/quickrefs.html#wollman
http://users.erols.com/tempdog/
http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
http://www.bcpl.lib.md.us/~wnidiffe/bamt/astrolies/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~oracle/ed-w-con.htm
Edmond H. Wollmann
Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com> wrote:
> I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
> I'm sure I must be one ;-)
A kook is what the imbeciles ---who spend their entire life on usenet
only to defame people who's beliefs they do not agree with-- call
people who are intelligent, competant and see through their spinicism
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/propagan.htm
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm
What is a "spinic?"
Or
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Plotinus
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/propagan.htm
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm
What is a "spinic?"
Or
--
Consulting: http://www.astroconsulting.com/toc.htm
Personal: http://www.e-wollmann.com/TOC.htm
Informative: http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/tableof.htm
University: http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU/toc.htm
bloatonius magnus meowimus
alt.astrology , article <A4UT5.4443$b73.2...@typhoon.san.rr.com>,
E...@astroconsulting.com incrminated themself with the following
confession...
> "Edmond Wollmann" <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote
>
> > November 22 to 30th in the 5th floor art Gallery.
>
>
> Right after the New Moon in Sagittarius, sextiling Neptune:-)
>
complaints snet, spammer.
bloatonius magnus meowimus
alt.astrology , article <lDH4bLAk...@raimes.com>, ali...@raimes.com
> <scarl...@theriver.com> writes
> >Nah Thomas, we are tame - rather dull even. The other group says
> >the "F" word in every post and here I got in trouble just for
> >discussing Alison's "Blow-Job" with (you-know-who).
>
> Er, Moaning Marilyn the Miserable, I think you mean? The one who has
> never had the joy of oral sex? You were naughty for discussing it,
> Scarlett.
>
> I'm sure I must be one ;-)
Ahhhh, what good artist doesn't possess a certain level of insanity? :)
In Edmo's case, however, it's not entirely beneficial, and his
obscessive-compulsive disorder does little to improve his art (which is
primarily plagerized knock-offs of better artists) or his writing (which
is ponderous and egocentric). Ed's the prototype usenet kook.
From time to time, the entertaining usenet poster may show signs of
kookiness, but that's more performance art than true mental derangement.
HTH
HAND
:)
jodre...@my-deja.com
<lml32t0nvj1qqhrom...@4ax.com>,
spa...@west.net wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:27:26 GMT, "Edmond
Wollmann"
> <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> I know I am going to regret this, but .....
what the hell is a *kook*.
> >> I'm sure I must be one ;-)
> >
> >A kook is what the imbeciles ---who spend
their entire life on usenet
> >only to defame people who's beliefs they do
not agree with-- call
> >people who are intelligent, competant and see
through their spinicism
> >(see below for spinicism definition).
>
>
> For example, I consider this page to give good
information about a
> troublesome kook:
>
> http://www.smbtech.com/ed
>
> HTH,
> Pam
I just got the aa messages. My server has been
down since the 23rd. And what do I see????
Pammy knocks me off my chair!
Jo
OUch!
> email address: beep at west dot net
> Rheumatic Disease info:
http://www.silcom.com/~sblc
> Happy Holiday Season 2000!
> Яллю
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Russell Hamel
paintings?
Can anyone post the links to the book on the Amazon site and the painting on
his webpage?
JoDream
"Mo R. Fenoffen" <spank...@dankettler.com> wrote in message
news:3A220129...@dankettler.com...
> Edmond Heinz Wollmann, dumpster-diving, bankruptcy-filing kook, failed
> predictor, plagiarist, thief, asshole, spammer, big-time multiple ISP
> account loser, physical stalker, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a
> misdemeanor (PC 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation,
> sued for Unlawful Detainer and evicted in 3/96, past violator of Federal
> and State game laws for abusing wildlife, described and punished as an
> abuser by SDSU, and remorseless confessed killer of another human being
wrote:
>
>
> ...
>
>
> > because they are bested and can only resort to defective fallacious
> > personal attacks, because all else including feeble attempts at logic
> > has failed in their attempt to defame those who are superior to them.
>
>
> I disagree.
>
:-)
Gotta love ya!
bloatonius magnus meowimus
alt.astrology , article <3A22F0E3...@htcomp.net>,
russel...@htcomp.net incrminated themself with the following
confession...
You suppose the reason Ed's wandering around the art newsgroups is so he
can find more work to plagerize???
Russell Hamel
> In article <3A22F0E3...@htcomp.net>,
> Russell Hamel <russel...@htcomp.net> wrote:
>
> >What was the name of the book that Edmo copied the cover for one of his
> >paintings?
> >Can anyone post the links to the book on the Amazon site and the painting on
> >his webpage?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393312763/
Yeah, that's it...Thanks Ellis!
Here's the link to the Edmo version:
http://www.e-wollmann.com/8b.htm
Compare this to the original artwork on the book:
Notice that this book is a reprint edition from 1995 while Edkook says his
painting was
created in April 2000.
Did anyone ever report this to the authorities in charge at the SDSU art
department?
Russ
~T
bloatonius magnus meowimus wrote in message ...
>On or about Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:40:19 -0600 in the vicinity of
>alt.astrology , article <3A22F0E3...@htcomp.net>,
>russel...@htcomp.net incrminated themself with the following
>confession...
>> paintings?
>> Can anyone post the links to the book on the Amazon site and the painting
on
>> his webpage?
>
>can find more work to plagerize???
Wouldn't be surprised in the least from his lack of ethics and talents.
Russell Hamel
el...@no.spam wrote:
> In article <3A22F0E3...@htcomp.net>,
> Russell Hamel <russel...@htcomp.net> wrote:
>
> >What was the name of the book that Edmo copied the cover for one of his
> >paintings?
> >Can anyone post the links to the book on the Amazon site and the painting on
> >his webpage?
>
Here's the link to the Edmo version:
http://www.e-wollmann.com/8b.htm
Compare this to the original artwork on the book by Kip S. Thorne, Black Holes and Time Warps : Einstein's Outrageous Legacy:
Scarlett
"Alison A Raimes" wrote in response to Scarlett & Thomas:
: >Nah Thomas, we are tame - rather dull even. The other group
says
: >the "F" word in every post and here I got in trouble just for
: >discussing Alison's "Blow-Job" with (you-know-who).
:
: Er, Moaning Marilyn the Miserable, I think you mean? The one
who has
: never had the joy of oral sex? You were naughty for discussing
it,
: Scarlett.
Yes, I know. I should be spanked but that costs extra ;-)
Sorry, but I haven't typed "blow-job" in quite a while and this
was a perfect opportunity ;-)
(And somehow your name just goes with "blow-job")...
As for "Kook" - I think some could consider Erik one, certainly
myself and you as well. I just got a visual of one (a "kook")
remembering an old TV show here in the US. Did you get "Laugh-In"
in London? I rember watching it in my diapers when I was 1 year
old and I think that Goldi Hawn, when she was on that show
epitomized a great "kook" (But don't get "kook" mixed up with
"dingbat" because they aren't the same at all).
--
Scarlett
http://ScarlettDecker.homestead.com
"Do you know what he needs? Two or three shock treatments,"
Mary George said. "Get that artist business right out of his
head once
and for all." (from "An Enduring Chill" by Flannery O'Connor)
:
: I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a
*kook*.
: I'm sure I must be one ;-)
:
: --
Thomas Ziorjen
>
> (Not singling out this specific post, but choosing it as an
> example:)
>
> OK, you can hate Ed all you like but frankly, I'm not impressed
> by his arrests, parking tickets, flashing, food-stamp payments,
> etc. He is announcing an exhibition. Rec.arts.fine is the proper
> place to do so and if someone posts or reads other newsgroups
> they sometimes cross-post. But, I'm hearing an awful lot of
> astrologers (and I know it isn't the nice alt.art.illustration
> group) flaming Ed. That's OK too. But, you are all talking out of
> your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
> student must do in order to learn) as well as the myth of
> artist's insanity. Sure, we may get crabby, but I think most of
> the people in your group could have been a role-model for van
> Gogh's insanity - for starters. Here in rec.arts.fine we spend
> time flaming one another over our opinions which is silly but I
> have never seen someone go to the trouble of putting up a website
> against another poster.
>
> Try posting to alt.get-a-life
Scarlett, it seems they've made harassing this guy a sport, or a
religion. Makes Mani's harrassments look tame.
Speaking of whom, where is that old curmudgeon? He never did flame
my work, and I was all ready for him.
--
Thomas
online portfolio:
http://mypage.uniserve.ca/~sn3222
http://www.egroups.com/group/artlives
http://artlives.homestead.com
el...@no.spam
Scarlett
"bloatonius magnus meowimus" <i...@am.spartacus> wrote in message
news:MPG.148c6b0b3...@news.alt.net...
: On or about Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:59:48 +0000 in the vicinity of
: alt.astrology , article <lDH4bLAk...@raimes.com>,
ali...@raimes.com
: incrminated themself with the following confession...
: > In article <cz3U5.1113$IP1.1...@news1.giganews.com>,
Scarlett
: > <scarl...@theriver.com> writes
: > >Nah Thomas, we are tame - rather dull even. The other group
says
: > >the "F" word in every post and here I got in trouble just
for
: > >discussing Alison's "Blow-Job" with (you-know-who).
: >
: > Er, Moaning Marilyn the Miserable, I think you mean? The one
who has
: > never had the joy of oral sex? You were naughty for
discussing it,
: > Scarlett.
: > I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is
a *kook*.
: > I'm sure I must be one ;-)
:
insanity? :)
:
: In Edmo's case, however, it's not entirely beneficial, and his
: obscessive-compulsive disorder does little to improve his art
(which is
: primarily plagerized knock-offs of better artists) or his
writing (which
: is ponderous and egocentric). Ed's the prototype usenet kook.
:
: From time to time, the entertaining usenet poster may show
signs of
: kookiness, but that's more performance art than true mental
derangement.
:
: HTH
:
: HAND
:
: :)
(Not singling out this specific post, but choosing it as an
example:)
OK, you can hate Ed all you like but frankly, I'm not impressed
by his arrests, parking tickets, flashing, food-stamp payments,
etc. He is announcing an exhibition. Rec.arts.fine is the proper
place to do so and if someone posts or reads other newsgroups
they sometimes cross-post. But, I'm hearing an awful lot of
astrologers (and I know it isn't the nice alt.art.illustration
group) flaming Ed. That's OK too. But, you are all talking out of
your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
student must do in order to learn) as well as the myth of
artist's insanity. Sure, we may get crabby, but I think most of
the people in your group could have been a role-model for van
Gogh's insanity - for starters. Here in rec.arts.fine we spend
time flaming one another over our opinions which is silly but I
have never seen someone go to the trouble of putting up a website
against another poster.
Try posting to alt.get-a-life
And your pathetic opinions of anything to do with art are
moronic.
(Alison, "kook" is like "moronic" but "kook" can be fun to be
with while "moronic" is like a sluggish, dull "kook")
Scarlett
:
: Did anyone ever report this to the authorities in charge at the
SDSU art
: department?
:
: Russ
:
You are kidding, right? Do you know that you will look like an
idiot doing so?
Spamster_<"uce"@ftc.góv>
Scarlett wrote:
Yawn.
Edmond Wollmann
"Scarlett" <scarl...@theriver.com> wrote:
Problem is, I was a 20 year counselor and got my degree in psychology
before art.
> : In Edmo's case, however, it's not entirely beneficial, and his
> : obscessive-compulsive disorder does little to improve his art
> (which is
This abuser who obsesses over me for 5 years in a group or groups he
has not one clue or knowledhge about calls me OCD dysfunctional:-)))
> : primarily plagerized knock-offs of better artists) or his
> writing (which
> : is ponderous and egocentric). Ed's the prototype usenet kook.
> : From time to time, the entertaining usenet poster may show
> signs of
> : kookiness, but that's more performance art than true mental
> derangement.
These are stalking harassers--pure and simple, they ran all the
cowardly astrologers off while I have stayed here because I am not
pushed around or bullied by anyone.
And I will stay here until each and every single one is gone.
> : HTH
> : HAND
> : :)
> (Not singling out this specific post, but choosing it as an
> example:)
> OK, you can hate Ed all you like but frankly, I'm not impressed
> by his arrests,
I have not been arrested, I got a ticket for riding a motorcycle too
close to a RR track, and the officer gave me a tresspassing ticket
because he couldn't give me anything else. He pissed the judge off by
doing so.
> parking tickets, flashing, food-stamp payments,
I never made a food stamp payment, this is PURE concoction on the part
of these idiots. I have gotten parking tickets. Flashing?:-))
> etc. He is announcing an exhibition. Rec.arts.fine is the proper
> place to do so and if someone posts or reads other newsgroups
> they sometimes cross-post. But, I'm hearing an awful lot of
> astrologers (and I know it isn't the nice alt.art.illustration
> group) flaming Ed.
There are NO astrologers here anymore, they have all gone to
alt.astrology.moderated. These are all abusers with no life, no brains
and no accomplishments of any sort--hence I am very intimidating to
their self-worth.
> That's OK too. But, you are all talking out of
> your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
> student must do in order to learn) as well as the myth of
> artist's insanity. Sure, we may get crabby, but I think most of
> the people in your group could have been a role-model for van
> Gogh's insanity - for starters. Here in rec.arts.fine we spend
> time flaming one another over our opinions which is silly but I
> have never seen someone go to the trouble of putting up a website
> against another poster.
Not only have they done that but this anonym-Gary Burnore- Rick
Lazzarini stalker character sent every art professor at SDSU spam
trying to convinvce them to discipline me for using sources!
Bwahahahahaha!!! We laughed forever over it.
> Try posting to alt.get-a-life
I have already pointed that out laddy--ah frequently.
> And your pathetic opinions of anything to do with art are
> moronic.
Bingo.
> (Alison, "kook" is like "moronic" but "kook" can be fun to be
> with while "moronic" is like a sluggish, dull "kook")
"What moves men of genius, or rather what inspires their work, is not
new ideas, but rather their obsession with the idea that what has
already been said is still not enough." Eugine Delacroix
"A painting is never finished-it simply stops in interesting places."
Paul Gardner
"Music is your own experience, your thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't
live it, it won't come out your horn." Charlie Parker
"The arts are the rain forests of society. They produce the oxygen of
freedom, and they are the early warning system when freedom is in
danger." June Wayne
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
Š 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Links http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
Alison A Raimes
<scarl...@theriver.com> writes
>As for "Kook" - I think some could consider Erik one, certainly
>myself and you as well. I just got a visual of one (a "kook")
>remembering an old TV show here in the US. Did you get "Laugh-In"
>in London? I rember watching it in my diapers when I was 1 year
>old and I think that Goldi Hawn, when she was on that show
>epitomized a great "kook" (But don't get "kook" mixed up with
>"dingbat" because they aren't the same at all).
Blow Job Raimes here ...... I *am* a kook.... I think! Still not sure if
I am a cynic or a sceptic ..... think I swop around when I spot a nerd.
And Mani most definitely is. All proud of my new *title* here ;-)
Imagine what a bore rec.arse.find would be without us. Do you think
Mani died? should we send flowers?
Alison A Raimes
>OK, you can hate Ed all you like but frankly, I'm not impressed
>by his arrests, parking tickets, flashing, food-stamp payments,
>etc. He is announcing an exhibition. Rec.arts.fine is the proper
>place to do so and if someone posts or reads other newsgroups
>they sometimes cross-post. But, I'm hearing an awful lot of
>astrologers (and I know it isn't the nice alt.art.illustration
>group) flaming Ed. That's OK too. But, you are all talking out of
>your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
>student must do in order to learn) as well as the myth of
>artist's insanity. Sure, we may get crabby, but I think most of
>the people in your group could have been a role-model for van
>Gogh's insanity - for starters. Here in rec.arts.fine we spend
>time flaming one another over our opinions which is silly but I
>have never seen someone go to the trouble of putting up a website
>against another poster.
Short memory, Scarlett. The Bore Borebeck put up a page after I called
his work *Chocolate Box* art. The only thing is that he misdirected his
flame at John just because I was using John's computer at the time (and
signing my own name on my posts). He named John on his site and flamed
him for the chocolate box remarks, which I was responsible for.
This is a fun thread ..... beats trying to have an intelligent
conversation with someone who thinks she can read Plato in three days
and who can't understand why Danto was in awe of Duchamp. Then again, if
you haven't read Wittgenstein how could you understand Danto's views.
Hey ho ....... at least this is fun ;-)
--
Alison Blow Job Raimes
Cujo
"Edmond Wollmann" <arctu...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8vvp1v$7uk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <gQGU5.12619$IP1.4...@news1.giganews.com>,
> before art.
You did it illegally? Thanks for the confession, kook!
> > : In Edmo's case, however, it's not entirely beneficial, and his
> > : obscessive-compulsive disorder does little to improve his art
> > (which is
>
> This abuser who obsesses over me for 5 years in a group or groups he
> has not one clue or knowledhge about calls me OCD dysfunctional:-)))
You sure are, and you lie to yourself about it.
> > : primarily plagerized knock-offs of better artists) or his
> > writing (which
> > : is ponderous and egocentric). Ed's the prototype usenet kook.
>
> > : From time to time, the entertaining usenet poster may show
> > signs of
> > : kookiness, but that's more performance art than true mental
> > derangement.
>
> These are stalking harassers--pure and simple, they ran all the
> cowardly astrologers off while I have stayed here because I am not
> pushed around or bullied by anyone.
You were too chickenshit to meet for lunch 5 minutes from your hovel,
coward.
> And I will stay here until each and every single one is gone.
You mean until you lose every account you can get, kook.
> > : HTH
>
> > : HAND
>
> > : :)
>
> > (Not singling out this specific post, but choosing it as an
> > example:)
>
> > OK, you can hate Ed all you like but frankly, I'm not impressed
> > by his arrests,
>
> I have not been arrested, I got a ticket for riding a motorcycle too
> close to a RR track, and the officer gave me a tresspassing ticket
> because he couldn't give me anything else. He pissed the judge off by
> doing so.
Liar and convict.
> > parking tickets, flashing, food-stamp payments,
>
> I never made a food stamp payment, this is PURE concoction on the part
> of these idiots. I have gotten parking tickets. Flashing?:-))
Tipping a valet with food stamps? You later lied and said they were the
property of the woman who paid for the meal in the first place, liar.
> > etc. He is announcing an exhibition. Rec.arts.fine is the proper
> > place to do so and if someone posts or reads other newsgroups
> > they sometimes cross-post. But, I'm hearing an awful lot of
> > astrologers (and I know it isn't the nice alt.art.illustration
> > group) flaming Ed.
>
> There are NO astrologers here anymore, they have all gone to
> alt.astrology.moderated. These are all abusers with no life, no brains
> and no accomplishments of any sort--hence I am very intimidating to
> their self-worth.
Ed, that's such a lie. The astrologers here laugh at you too.
> > That's OK too. But, you are all talking out of
> > your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
> > student must do in order to learn) as well as the myth of
> > artist's insanity. Sure, we may get crabby, but I think most of
> > the people in your group could have been a role-model for van
> > Gogh's insanity - for starters. Here in rec.arts.fine we spend
> > time flaming one another over our opinions which is silly but I
> > have never seen someone go to the trouble of putting up a website
> > against another poster.
>
> Not only have they done that but this anonym-Gary Burnore- Rick
> [redacted] stalker character sent every art professor at SDSU spam
> trying to convinvce them to discipline me for using sources!
> Bwahahahahaha!!! We laughed forever over it.
Sure you did.
> > Try posting to alt.get-a-life
>
> I have already pointed that out laddy--ah frequently.
>
> > And your pathetic opinions of anything to do with art are
> > moronic.
>
> Bingo.
>
> > (Alison, "kook" is like "moronic" but "kook" can be fun to be
> > with while "moronic" is like a sluggish, dull "kook")
>
So he's a morinic kook. HTH!
Chris
Welcome to rec.arts fine.
Too bad about all the losers you seem to have attracted. Unfortunately the e-world is full of vigilante webmasters and sys-admins with their one-handed subterranean sex lives (the picture on your site
of Fred Rice & his best friends - http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/images/OCD_nutcase.jpg - is priceless. But just because one OCD is an asshole doesn't mean you should really use that label
derisively...). There are a few NG-junkies here, but they've mostly gone off with Alison & her eGroupies. Some - like Alison/Quo Vadis - tried out the white-sheet posting methods like your anonymous
friends, but they couldn't figure it out & have since settled down into simple name calling :)
Anyway, I guess your show is over soon, hope it went well.
(followups set only to RAF)
Regards;
Chris
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> November 22 to 30th in the 5th floor art Gallery.
>
> --
> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
> © 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
> Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
--
"Art is the supreme manifestation of individualism" - Oscar Wilde
Artwork: http://www.gammarat.com/
Newer Work:
Children at Play #1 http://www.gammarat.com/AtPlay/AtPlay1.jpg
Homasse http://www.gammarat.com/Homasse/Current.jpg
Alison A Raimes
<bro...@ns.sympatico.ca> writes
>Hey Ed;
>
>Welcome to rec.arts fine.
>
>Too bad about all the losers you seem to have attracted. Unfortunately the e-
>world is full of vigilante webmasters and sys-admins with their one-handed
>subterranean sex lives (the picture on your site
>of Fred Rice & his best friends - http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/images/OCD
>_nutcase.jpg - is priceless. But just because one OCD is an asshole doesn't mean
>you should really use that label
>derisively...). There are a few NG-junkies here, but they've mostly gone off
>with Alison & her eGroupies. Some - like Alison/Quo Vadis - tried out the white-
>sheet posting methods like your anonymous
>friends, but they couldn't figure it out & have since settled down into simple
>name calling :)
>
>Anyway, I guess your show is over soon, hope it went well.
>
>(followups set only to RAF)
>
>Regards;
>
>Chris
Still using too much green in your palette Chrissie dear ;-)
Russell Hamel
But, you are all talking out of
> your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
> student must do in order to learn)
Sorry Scarlett, but I have to disagree with you on this one. Copying an
artist's style is one thing, but out-and-out palgiarism is something
totally different. Did you check out the links in the post titled "Edmo
Not Only A Kook But An Art Thief As Well!" ? Here, let me ropst the
mfor you.
Here's Ed's website link:
http://www.e-wollmann.com/8b.htm
And here is the original artwork on a bookcover:
We're not talking about merely copying an artist's style, we're talking
about Ed painting an exact duplicate of an artist's work and claiming it
as his own. If I had done this while I was studying for my Bachelor's,
I most certainly would have received a Zero for the course and possibly
kicked out of school. Quite frankly, plagiarism is totally unacceptable
at the college level. I don't allow the high school students I am
teaching now to do it. If you are saying that students should study
other painters and learn from them, I agree with you there. Just
recently, I have given my students an assignment to copy a work by an
Old Master, but this is totally different from claiming the work as an
original creation. I hope you see the difference, because I think it is
a very important one. BTW, I am not part of the alt.astrology crowd
that is engaged in the epic internet battle with Ed, I only became
familar with him and his "work" after reading posts by him or replies to
them in various art groups. The idea that a grown man would so
blatantly rip-off a piece of Art is what
has me pissed, as (in my opinion) it should all artists. I have no
knowledge of any of the other accusations levied against Edmo, but I
will repost the evidence of his art theft everytime he tries
to get attention to his artwork online.
Russ
Russell Hamel
Russell;Chris,The re-use of artistic images is quite traditional in fine art. Certainly as Scarlett points out it has been a way of learning. But many mature artists have also freely quoted from other works - to
the level that were it literature it would be called plagiarism, perhaps. Look at the borrowers from Caravaggio, such as Gentileschi; or how Rembrandt adapted Rubens work to his own ends (and Rubens'
transcription of classical statuary into his figures); or van Gogh's quite direct borrowings from Millet. Or the history of the Brillo boxes. In any case, there really hasn't been that lock on
"intellectual property" which seems so important elsewhere.Keep in mind too that one can look at copying in a light similar to how Bloom looks at memorizing poetry - it's an act of making the idea part of oneself. That's not a bad thing, since it doesn't
expropriate the idea, it spreads it.FWIW, I do find it odd that a high school teacher would involve himself in this sort of attack on an individual; I hope your students are having a good chuckle at your expense :)
Regards;
Chris
We are not talking about appropriating certain elements of an established artist's works an incorporating them into another piece, we are talking about copying the whole painting and presenting it as an original piece. You can talk circles around that point all you want. None of those artists that you mentioned blatantly plagiarized another artists work in such as way. I challenge you to find an example where any of the artists that you mentioned above have copied another artist's work right down to the last element and presented it to the public as an original piece, without mention of (or the assumption that the audience is aware of) the original artist. This has always been considered plagiarism.
If you pull out your Art History books and artists biographies you will be able to find scores of early works and student works by respected masters and contemporary artists that are derivative or direct copies of other artists, but these were usually created during the artist's formative years either as a student or apprentice and almost always are mentioned as "In the style of Rembrandt" for example or "After Van Gogh". However, this a totally different issue than from what Ed has done, which is to take the artwork from an obscure bookcover, and copy the whole thing and present it to the public as an original piece without mention of the original artist. It is essential for art students to study, copy, and learn from mature artists. But to represent of those copies in a public forum (such as the internet) as an original piece is wrong. There should be no argument about this.
As for your last remark, I find it odd that you don't think a high school art teacher should be concerned with plagiarism. I don't know what kind of education you've received, but in every school I've ever attended, from grade school through college, plagiarism and just plain old cheating were the only two academic offenses I can think of that could guarantee expulsion.
Sincerely,
Russell Hamel
Cujo
Russell Hamel wrote in message <3A244012...@htcomp.net>...
>Scarlett wrote:
>
>But, you are all talking out of
>
>> your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
>> student must do in order to learn)
>
>artist's style is one thing, but out-and-out palgiarism is something
>totally different. Did you check out the links in the post titled "Edmo
>Not Only A Kook But An Art Thief As Well!" ? Here, let me ropst the
>mfor you.
>
>Here's Ed's website link:
>
>http://www.e-wollmann.com/8b.htm
>
>And here is the original artwork on a bookcover:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393312763/o/qid=975378206/sr=8-1/re
f=aps_sr_b_1_3/106-4912834-3359602
>
>
>
>We're not talking about merely copying an artist's style, we're talking
>about Ed painting an exact duplicate of an artist's work and claiming it
>as his own.
I can get someone from Tijuana to do a better picture in 15 minutes or less
and do it for less than 15 bucks. I'm talking about using spray paints too.
>If I had done this while I was studying for my Bachelor's,
>I most certainly would have received a Zero for the course and possibly
>kicked out of school. Quite frankly, plagiarism is totally unacceptable
>at the college level.
High school I can see. This kook is taking as a major.
> I don't allow the high school students I am
>teaching now to do it. If you are saying that students should study
>other painters and learn from them, I agree with you there. Just
>recently, I have given my students an assignment to copy a work by an
>Old Master, but this is totally different from claiming the work as an
>original creation. I hope you see the difference, because I think it is
>a very important one. BTW, I am not part of the alt.astrology crowd
>that is engaged in the epic internet battle with Ed, I only became
>familar with him and his "work" after reading posts by him or replies to
>them in various art groups. The idea that a grown man would so
>blatantly rip-off a piece of Art is what
>has me pissed, as (in my opinion) it should all artists. I have no
>knowledge of any of the other accusations levied against Edmo, but I
>will repost the evidence of his art theft everytime he tries
>to get attention to his artwork online.
I'm not an artist, but I can do a better job than Wollmann. Thanks to
someone who confirms my opinion. He's been a failure at everything.
Chris
The re-use of artistic images is quite traditional in fine art. Certainly as Scarlett points out it has been a way of learning. But many mature artists have also freely quoted from other works - to
the level that were it literature it would be called plagiarism, perhaps. Look at the borrowers from Caravaggio, such as Gentileschi; or how Rembrandt adapted Rubens work to his own ends (and Rubens'
transcription of classical statuary into his figures); or van Gogh's quite direct borrowings from Millet. Or the history of the Brillo boxes. In any case, there really hasn't been that lock on
"intellectual property" which seems so important elsewhere.
Keep in mind too that one can look at copying in a light similar to how Bloom looks at memorizing poetry - it's an act of making the idea part of oneself. That's not a bad thing, since it doesn't
expropriate the idea, it spreads it.
FWIW, I do find it odd that a high school teacher would involve himself in this sort of attack on an individual; I hope your students are having a good chuckle at your expense :)
Regards;
Chris
--
"Art is the supreme manifestation of individualism" - Oscar Wilde
Artwork: http://www.gammarat.com/
Russell Hamel wrote:
>
> Scarlett wrote:
>
> But, you are all talking out of
>
> > your collective asses about plagiarism (this is something a
> > student must do in order to learn)
>
> Sorry Scarlett, but I have to disagree with you on this one. Copying an
> artist's style is one thing, but out-and-out palgiarism is something
> totally different. Did you check out the links in the post titled "Edmo
> Not Only A Kook But An Art Thief As Well!" ? Here, let me ropst the
> mfor you.
>
[....]
>
> Russ
el...@no.spam
Chris <bro...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>The re-use of artistic images is quite traditional in fine art.
Bullshit.
>Certainly as Scarlett points out it has been a way of learning.
Not in this context and certainly not passed off as an original
work.
>But many
>mature artists have also freely quoted from other works - to
>the level that were it literature it would be called plagiarism,
This isn't freely quoting; it's plagiarism and illegal. His book
appears to be more of the same.
eve nshali
<E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>In article <lDH4bLAk...@raimes.com>,
> Alison A Raimes <alis...@SPAMraimes.com> wrote:
>
>> I know I am going to regret this, but ..... what the hell is a *kook*.
>> I'm sure I must be one ;-)
>
>A kook is what the imbeciles ---who spend their entire life on usenet
>only to defame people who's beliefs they do not agree with-- call
>people who are intelligent, competant and see through their spinicism
>(see below for spinicism definition). Hence, "spinics" call kooks kooks
>because they are bested and can only resort to defective fallacious
>personal attacks, because all else including feeble attempts at logic
>has failed in their attempt to defame those who are superior to them.
>
>Most people are easily duped by spin (as is evidence by the raving
>maniacal responses of people about the election scenario) because they
>are not raised with critical thinking skills. Hence, because spinics
>have no life and can spin all day, whilst kooks are usually intelligent
>and productive and can't, the rubes who read usenet groups end up
>thinking there is something to the kook idea, when in reality, the
>disturbed ones are the spinics. Get that?
>
No, and only a sociopathic, irrational nut like you *can* get it.
Seriously folks, what is wrong with the above paragraph?
Paraphrasing: People who aren't raised with critical thinking skills
have no life and can spin all day unlike kooks, who are usually
intelligent <guffaw> and productive (so they can't spin all day),
therefore rubes are unfairly influenced by posts from the former,
which is counter productive to the latter.
It's a big "not-fair" from Edie.
Questions to Ed:
1/ If kooks are so intelligent, why don't they have the time to do
what they want, whenever they feel like it?
2/ I thought kooks like you couldn't post to usenet all day because
they have their priveleges muzzled due to abusive behaviour, is this
true?
3/ Does your reference to rubes reflect any unbecoming attitudes in
yourself towards them?
4/ Do you think such rubes possess critical thinking skills?
5/ How does not being raised with critical thinking skills lead to
posting to usenet all day?
6/ What do these people do at night?
7/ Did Edvin Augusts get completely discombobulated by his sojourn
through uranus? (Just to get back to astrology.) (Well, Ed Augusts
is an astrologer!)
I think Edie should show his brilliant piece of prose to his psych
lecturer at SDSU.
Even Kepler should take an interest, really.
>I have clearly defined and exposed the spinics' kook non-sense many
>times.
>
Edie, one thing Narcissistics (such as yourself) need to learn is that
telling yourself something repeatedly doesn't make it true.
screed snipped
JoDream
"eve nshali" <cham...@the.bit> wrote in message
news:3a256b97...@news.dingoblue.net.au...
Say AMEN!
Jo :
WHere ya been Eve?
> screed snipped
LectrikEd & Son
>Lou Minatti <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Cujo wrote:
>>
>> > BTW Eddieee. I'll be by tomorrow to look (and laugh) at your work. Alert
>> > security, I'll be armed with a camera. Have them ready to do full cavity
>> > searches on everyone. You never know which one will be me. But then again,
>> > you have me listed on your page of hate as being in Denver. I must really be
>> > obsessive to fly all the way there. Better have a police escort ready so you
>> > can effect a citizens arrest like you threatened the last time. Too bad you
>> > were too chickenshit to have lunch in a public place, kook.
>> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>
>> I DEMAND A WEBSITE WITH PICTURES!
>
>M3 T00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh mais oui!!!!!!!!!
Tom Henderson
Edmond Heinz Wollmann, dumpster-diving, bankruptcy-filing kook, failed
predictor, plagiarist, thief, asshole, spammer, big-time multiple ISP
account loser, physical stalker, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a
misdemeanor (PC 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation,
sued for Unlawful Detainer and evicted in 3/96, past violator of Federal
and State game laws for abusing wildlife, described and punished as an
abuser by SDSU, and remorseless confessed killer of another human being wrote:
> Expands
Like fart gas.
>and accelerates.
Like a motorcycle trespassing.
> Comments welcome.
You're a criminal.
> No items are for sale at this
> time.
Good thing. Your shit *sucks*!
>
> Themes include:
Fraudulence
Thievery
Stalking
Plagiarism
http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm
http://www3.shore.net/~a/wollmann/faves.html
http://www.geocities.com/kook_watcher/ed/index.html
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
http://lart.com/ed/
http://www.rahul.net/falk/quickrefs.html#wollman
http://home.pacbell.net/anonym/spamazon.html
http://home.pacbell.net/anonym/minied1.jpg
Edmond Wollmann
Expands and accelerates. Comments welcome. No items are for sale at this
time.
Themes include:
Psychology
Nature
Mythology
http://www.e-wollmann.com/gallery_9.htm
http://www.e-wollmann.com/sculpture.htm
http://www.e-wollmann.com/artbooks.htm
http://www.e-wollmann.com/influences.htm
"If you hear a voice within you saying 'You are not a painter,' then by all
means paint...and that voice will be silenced." Vincent Van Gogh
Tom Henderson
If you post with your real email addy, spambots will harvest your
address, and you will get spam.
And then you will whine like a fucking crybaby in nanas.
Tom Henderson
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Expands and
is off-topic in alt.astrology.
Edmond Wollmann
news:t2kpsfa...@corp.supernews.com...
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > Expands and accelerates. Comments welcome.
> Off-Topic. Complaints sent.
Sorry, you are incorrect, there are astrological collages:
http://www.e-wollmann.com/6a.htm
An array of psychological paintings, and all of it is art.
Wrong again abuser!
Cujo
Edmond Wollmann wrote in message ...
>
>Expands and accelerates. Comments welcome.
Your paintings suck and you are an asshole.
>No items are for sale at this
>time.
That's a damned shame. I'd love to see what kind of price tag you'd put on
that crap being that your an egomaniac and sociopath.
>Themes include:
>Psychology
>Nature
>Mythology
All done badly.
>http://www.e-wollkook.com/gallery_9.htm
>http://www.e-wollkook.com/sculpture.htm
>http://www.e-wollkook.com/artbooks.htm
>http://www.e-wollkook.com/influences.htm
Must suck that www.wollmann.com is owned by someone else.
>"If you hear a voice within you saying 'You are not a painter,' then by all
>means paint...and that voice will be silenced." Vincent Van Gogh
I heear a lot of silence.
BTW, according to you the end of the millennium was last year. I guess you
can't keep your bullshit straight.
--
Did you have a question about how the ALL THAT IS is reflected through
astrology? I was an astrologer 1000 times in Babylon.
- Ed Wollmann, THE #1 delusional kook explains his past.
Cujo - Lumber Cartel #2324
Cujo
Edmond Wollmann wrote in message ...
>news:t2kpsfa...@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>
>
>Sorry, you are incorrect, there are astrological collages:
Then why didn't you list that, you asshole?
>An array of psychological paintings, and all of it is art.
>Wrong again abuser!
No, you got caught at being a hypocrite and tried another lame excuse.
Do you have any stalkings of Kronert to discuss, abuser?
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <E...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>Expands and accelerates.
That's the laughter expanding and accelerating, moron.