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Gwydion Elderwyn

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Oct 31, 2002, 7:05:21 AM10/31/02
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As I'm not a confident drawer I tend to do a lot of erasing, so I'd rather
get the drawing right first and then somehow transfer just the "correct"
lines to my watercolor paper. I use 300gsm watercolor paper - how can I
transfer the drawing? Tracing is obviously out :) What about a
light-table? Would it penetrate the paper enough?

Thanks,
Gwydion


Lar

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Oct 31, 2002, 8:15:13 AM10/31/02
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Gwydion Elderwyn wrote:

A light table may help you out but it'd probably have to be pretty darn
bright.

One option is to get an opaque projector for yourself. That way you can
project your drawing onto your paper and copy it down that way.

Easier than that though is to get or make yourself some transfer paper.
It's a modern equivalent to old fashioned carbon paper. Tape down your
drawing over your paper, slip in some transfer paper and trace your
original down. As with any drawing on watercolour paper, you have to
remember not to press too hard, as you don't want to seriously damage
the surface of the paper. Otherwise you could find your paint pooling
in the creases.

Later!

Lar

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Bryce

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Oct 31, 2002, 10:43:54 AM10/31/02
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You can also tape the paper and the drawing up on a bright (and CLEAN)
window. Just like a light table. I did this before I could afford a
light table.

One other trick is to use a very lightly drawn grid and do a "square by
square".

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Randolph Kutz

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Oct 31, 2002, 7:48:03 PM10/31/02
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An olde fashioned semi-destructive-to-the-drawing-solution would be pin
points all through the lines you wish to transfer, and a medium that can
pass through the pin holes, such as chalk dust.

Randy
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GravelPit

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Oct 31, 2002, 10:16:24 PM10/31/02
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1. Trace the picture w/ regular tracing paper.
2. Flip tracing paper over, trace back-side with a soft lead.
3. Flip tracing paper over again, place on top of watercolor paper, trace a
3rd and final time.

I've found that this will not COMPLETELY duplicate my lines, but will
lightly lay down what I need to do my watercolor.

Hope it helps.

Gravelpit


Gwydion Elderwyn

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Nov 1, 2002, 12:07:31 AM11/1/02
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Some very good ideas there, I'll probably try them all and see what works
best for me.

Thanks!

G.


Lar

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Nov 1, 2002, 8:26:03 AM11/1/02
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Randolph Kutz wrote:

>An olde fashioned semi-destructive-to-the-drawing-solution would be pin
>points all through the lines you wish to transfer, and a medium that can
>pass through the pin holes, such as chalk dust.
>

I've heard of this technique for really large images - like murals and
such. There's a tool for creating the pin holes too. It's like a
little electric sparking thing - you 'trace' your image and it burns
tons of little holes in the paper.

Later,

Lar

Randolph Kutz

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Nov 1, 2002, 3:17:50 PM11/1/02
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Yea, it would make more sense for larger images since the pin hole
resolution has practical limits. I haven't seen the electrical version of
the tool. My dad used a hand-held spoked wheel (dia ~.5") with handle to
make the holes. Then he used blue chalk held in a porous bag, which left a
blue impression on the original, but for his application that was OK.

Randy

P.S. Looked at your site. Good caricatures. Some look like pen & ink, some
look digital.

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WaxMan

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Nov 1, 2002, 10:42:44 PM11/1/02
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Buy a carbon paper at a craft store. A paper that is graphite.
Lay the graphite side down on your water color paper.You can tape the
edges so it doesn't move around.

Place your picture on top,and begin to trace the image you want.

Peel every thing off and your ready to paint.

WaxMan..

Artboy from Oz

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Nov 2, 2002, 1:21:52 AM11/2/02
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This is by far the easiest and best method, I think, Gravelpit.

I use a very soft pencil, say, b8, on the reverse, then a hard one, maybe h4, on the re-trace.

Labour-intensive, but non-destructive.

Greg

Tracey J. Albertson

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Nov 7, 2002, 10:14:20 PM11/7/02
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Hi!
I have been working with watercolors for many years and I have found that
the best method to transfer a drawing to watercolor paper without damaging
it in any way is to use an art projector... I have one by Artograph
http://www.artograph.com/projectors.htm
My particular one is the "Designer". I have found this to be very useful in
scaling my images after I have my drawing completed. It saves many painful
steps and minimizes any foul-ups. This piece of equipment is a very good
investment and is not costly.
Regards!

zoetrope

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Nov 9, 2002, 1:02:39 AM11/9/02
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"Tracey J. Albertson" <t...@intercom.net> wrote in message news:<iTFy9.22318$46.13793@fe01>...

> Hi!
> I have been working with watercolors for many years and I have found that
> the best method to transfer a drawing to watercolor paper without damaging
> it in any way is to use an art projector... I have one by Artograph
> http://www.artograph.com/projectors.htm
> My particular one is the "Designer". I have found this to be very useful in
> scaling my images after I have my drawing completed. It saves many painful
> steps and minimizes any foul-ups. This piece of equipment is a very good
> investment and is not costly.
> Regards!

Hi Tracey,

That seems to be good advice although I haven't used one as yet. I
think it would be the best way to duplicate large drawings. When I
first started drawing and painting, I would do a rough drawing (any
size) so that I knew what I wanted, then do the better drawing all
over again on the watercolor paper! Lately, I do the more detailed
drawing to size, then transfer what I want to the watercolor paper via
the lightbox. It's faster, for sure.

zo

Maria William

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Nov 11, 2002, 12:11:08 AM11/11/02
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A piece of advice for those that can't afford a lightbox/art projector: use
a glass table. I just put the paper on my small glass table and place a lamp
with some really bright bulb under the table and... voila. Makeshift light
box. Works like a charm. :)

MJ


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Montanto

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Nov 21, 2002, 2:50:32 PM11/21/02
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> >1. Trace the picture w/ regular tracing paper.
> >2. Flip tracing paper over, trace back-side with a soft lead.
> >3. Flip tracing paper over again, place on top of watercolor paper, trace a
> >3rd and final time.
> >
> >I've found that this will not COMPLETELY duplicate my lines, but will
> >lightly lay down what I need to do my watercolor.
> >
> >Hope it helps.
> >

Another techninque that works is make a photocopy of your picture.
Then cover the back of the sheet with charcoal. place the sheet on
your watercolor paper. Trace over the picture with firm preasure. The
bits of charcoal that you have drawn over will be pressed into the
watercolor paper.

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