Re: "Why the 3/5ths Compromise Was Anti-Slavery"

[Walter Duerson]

On 27 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com> posted some
news:CvxoJ.46307$Gco3....@fx01.iad:

> On 11/27/2021 1:14 PM, morbidly obese lying fat fuck Chadlee Bryant
> lied:
>
>> On 27 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <j...@phendrie.con> posted some
>> news:vRvoJ.60617$lz3....@fx34.iad:
>>
>>> On 7/20/2020 1:12 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 7/20/20 2:57 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/2020 12:54 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> No.  The 3/5 compromise was *not* anti-slavery.  Your subject
>>>>> line is a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> It gave the slavers something they didn't deserve.  It was
>>>>> pro-slavery.
>>>>
>>>> Would you rather that the slaves had been counted for
>>>> representation, the slave states been given the additional power?
>>>
>>> They shouldn't have been slaves *at all*. Because they were, they
>>> should not have been counted for representation to *any* degree.
>>>
>>> Of course, after the corrupt end of Reconstruction, when your
>>> ancestors put Jim Crow into place and blacks were all but
>>> disenfranchised, they counted fully for representation, and white
>>> supremacists had far too much representation in Congress.
>>
>> Lying isn't going to change history.
>
> I didn't lie, you lying fat fuck. After the civil war ended, the
> traitor states got *more* representatives because now the blacks all
> counted for 5/5 of a person. But white supremacists — Hartung's
> ancestors — didn't let blacks vote, so racist whites got *more*
> representation than they had had under the 3/5 compromise.

Let's set the record straight. You did lie and the Southern racists were
Democrats.

[Walter Duerson]

On 27 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com> posted some

news:1xxoJ.46308$Gco3....@fx01.iad:

> On 11/27/2021 1:17 PM, morbidly obese lying fat fuck Chadlee Bryant

> lied:
>> On 27 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <j...@phendrie.con> posted some

>> news:oSvoJ.60618$lz3....@fx34.iad:
>>
>>> On 7/20/2020 4:46 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 7/20/20 6:04 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/2020 2:26 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>> On 7/20/20 3:36 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 1:12 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/20/20 2:57 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 12:54 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.  The 3/5 compromise was *not* anti-slavery.  Your
>>>>>>>>> subject line is a lie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It gave the slavers something they didn't deserve.  It was
>>>>>>>>> pro-slavery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you rather that the slaves had been counted for
>>>>>>>> representation
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If they didn't get to vote, they should not have been counted
>>>>>>> for representation at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then most of the people in the northern states should not have
>>>>>> been counted.
>>>>>
>>>>> They should have been the same as similarly situated people in the
>>>>> south.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just stop with the bullshit that the 3/5 compromise was
>>>>> "anti-slavery." It was not.  It was pro-slavery.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, on this subject you are stupid.
>>>
>>> No. Concession of defeat noted.
>>>
>>> The "compromise" was pro-slavery, in that it gave the slavers
>>> political power they didn't deserve.
>>
>> The slavers were profiteering slaves and white Democrats!
>
> Slaves didn't own slaves. Southern Democrats then were conservatives.
> Today, all white supremacists are Republiscums/QAnon.

Former black slaves did own slaves in the South, Rudy. Read some history.

Start with William Ellison Jr. and work your way out.

[Walter Duerson]

On 27 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com> posted some

news:nyxoJ.46309$Gco3....@fx01.iad:

> On 11/27/2021 1:23 PM, morbidly obese lying fat fuck Chadlee Bryant

lied:
>
>> On 27 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <j...@phendrie.con> posted some

>> news:XSvoJ.60619$lz3....@fx34.iad:
>>
>>> On 7/20/2020 5:12 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>> On 7/20/20 7:07 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/2020 4:46 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/20/20 6:04 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 2:26 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/20/20 3:36 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 1:12 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/20 2:57 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 12:54 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No.  The 3/5 compromise was *not* anti-slavery.  Your
>>>>>>>>>>> subject line is a lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It gave the slavers something they didn't deserve.  It was
>>>>>>>>>>> pro-slavery.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would you rather that the slaves had been counted for
>>>>>>>>>> representation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If they didn't get to vote, they should not have been counted
>>>>>>>>> for representation at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then most of the people in the northern states should not have
>>>>>>>> been counted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They should have been the same as similarly situated people in the
>>>>>>> south.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just stop with the bullshit that the 3/5 compromise was
>>>>>>> "anti-slavery." It was not.  It was pro-slavery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said,
>>>>>

>>>>> You're full of shit.  Only really shitty sophistry can try to
>>>>> pretend the 3/5 compromise was "anti-slavery."  It wasn't - it was
>>>>> pro-slavery. It was a sop to the slavers.
>>>>
>>>> Without that compromise, there would not have been a USA.
>>>
>>> False.
>>
>> �In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of
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>>
>
> southern white supremacists, who then were Democrats but today are
> Republiscums/QAnon.

Not true. The racists and homophobes are still Democrats today.

[Walter Duerson]

On 28 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com> posted some
news:_SToJ.111712$AJ2....@fx33.iad:

> On 11/28/2021 12:33 PM, Jack-Off Skeeter Shit-4-Braincell Lamey FNVW
> Pig-Fucker confessed:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:13:32 -0800, Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/28/2021 12:02 PM, Jack-Off Skeeter Shit-4-Braincell Lamey FNVW
>>> Pig-Fucker tried to bullshit but failed, because Rudy stopped him:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 10:11:55 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>> <notg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/28/2021 10:01 AM, Attila wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 09:42:38 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>> <notg...@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <kcPoJ.49715$hm7....@fx07.iad> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/28/2021 8:38 AM, Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 13:35:56 -0800, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>> <notg...@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <1xxoJ.46308$Gco3....@fx01.iad> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2021 1:17 PM, morbidly obese lying fat fuck Chadlee

>>>>>>>>> Bryant lied:
>>>>>>>>>> On 27 Nov 2021, Rudy Canoza <j...@phendrie.con> posted some

>>>>>>>>>> news:oSvoJ.60618$lz3....@fx34.iad:

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 4:46 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/20 6:04 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 2:26 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/20 3:36 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 1:12 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/20 2:57 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2020 12:54 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.  The 3/5 compromise was *not* anti-slavery. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your subject line is a lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It gave the slavers something they didn't deserve. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was pro-slavery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you rather that the slaves had been counted for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> representation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they didn't get to vote, they should not have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counted for representation at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then most of the people in the northern states should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been counted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They should have been the same as similarly situated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people in the south.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just stop with the bullshit that the 3/5 compromise was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "anti-slavery." It was not.  It was pro-slavery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, on this subject you are stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No. Concession of defeat noted.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The "compromise" was pro-slavery, in that it gave the
>>>>>>>>>>> slavers political power they didn't deserve.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The slavers were profiteering slaves and white Democrats!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Slaves didn't own slaves.
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> True, but a lot of blacks were free men and some of them
>>>>>>>> owned slaves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you liar, it is false that "a lot of blacks were free men,"
>>>>>>> and false that very many of them owned slaves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Free blacks in the antebellum period [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african-american-odyssey/free-blacks-
>>>>>> in-the-antebellum-period.html
>>>>>
>>>>> None of that supports your claim — your lie — that there were
>>>>> "a lot" of free blacks.

>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Southern Democrats then were conservatives. Today,
>>>>>>>>> all white supremacists are Republiscums/QAnon.
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You are personally aquatinted [sic] with all white
>>>>>>>> supremacists?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "aquatinted"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All white supremacists are on the political far right. They
>>>>>>> always have been.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can say that because you know all of them?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't need to know all of them.
>>>>
>>>> So your claim that "all" of them are white supremacists
>>>
>>> All white supremacists are white supremacists, Jack-Off Skeeter
>>> Shit-4-Braincell Lamey FNVW Pig-Fucker. That's true by definition.
>>> All white supremacists are on the far left.
>>
>> You lose again Rudy.
>
> Yes, I Jack-Off Pig-Fuckers too.

You should see a doctor for that, Rudy.