Homeplug network

[Alan Wrigley]

Does anyone else use a Homeplug device on their network? Several times a day
I get network dropouts that last up to a couple of minutes. I know it's the
LAN at fault and not the internet because I can't ping the router. I
wondered if this was a common problem (the devices are TP-Link ones).

Alan

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[John]

In article
<gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan

Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone else use a Homeplug device on their network?
> Several times a day I get network dropouts that last up
> to a couple of minutes. I know it's the LAN at fault and
> not the internet because I can't ping the router. I
> wondered if this was a common problem (the devices are
> TP-Link ones).

Yes, I've got 4 of the TP-Link 1200 models. I've used them
for over a year and the only problem I've had is that they
needed re-booting about 6 months ago.

John

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[Brian]

In article <567e1a66...@blueyonder.co.uk>,

John <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan
> Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:

> > Does anyone else use a Homeplug device on their network?
> > Several times a day I get network dropouts that last up
> > to a couple of minutes. I know it's the LAN at fault and
> > not the internet because I can't ping the router. I
> > wondered if this was a common problem (the devices are
> > TP-Link ones).

> Yes, I've got 4 of the TP-Link 1200 models. I've used them
> for over a year and the only problem I've had is that they
> needed re-booting about 6 months ago.

Using homeplugs here for a number of years, currently Aztec.

Generally very successful but earlier ones, of a different make, have
failed. I think they just get a bit tired.

Suggest network drop outs through known RealTek configuration problem.
Sorry if this is boring, but that is what happened here over a significant
period of time.

[Dave Symes]

In article <gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>,
Alan Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone else use a Homeplug device on their network? Several times a
> day I get network dropouts that last up to a couple of minutes. I know
> it's the LAN at fault and not the internet because I can't ping the
> router. I wondered if this was a common problem (the devices are TP-Link
> ones).

> Alan

I have one in a room at the other end of the house that doesn't receive
WiFi very well, so a couple of years ago I got a TP-Link Homeplug for it,
I can't say I've noticed any dropouts.

Dave

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[Brian]

In article <567e1d72...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian

<bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <567e1a66...@blueyonder.co.uk>, John
> <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan
> > Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> Using homeplugs here for a number of years, currently Aztec.

> Generally very successful but earlier ones, of a different make, have
> failed. I think they just get a bit tired.

Not quite true. It's my memory that's tired

2 - Solwise plugs - replaced because they were rather slow, 3-Netgear
plugs - replaced because I then needed 4 plugs, 4-Aztec plugs. All work OK.

[glavallin]

In message <gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>

Alan Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone else use a Homeplug device on their network? Several times a day
> I get network dropouts that last up to a couple of minutes. I know it's the
> LAN at fault and not the internet because I can't ping the router. I
> wondered if this was a common problem (the devices are TP-Link ones).
>
> Alan
>

Yes I have used them for several years but they are of the wired version
rather than the wireless versions as the wireless versions couldn't transmit
a signal through 4 panes of glass doors that seperates the main house from
the conservatory.
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[Alan Wrigley]

glavallin <glav...@gjlavallin.plus.com> wrote:

> In message <gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>
> Alan Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone else use a Homeplug device on their network? Several times a
day
> > I get network dropouts that last up to a couple of minutes. I know it's
the
> > LAN at fault and not the internet because I can't ping the router. I
> > wondered if this was a common problem (the devices are TP-Link ones).
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
> Yes I have used them for several years but they are of the wired version
> rather than the wireless versions

Mine are wired.

[Tim Hill]

In article <gemini.owko3700...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan

I have three wired 1200 Solwise. They drop out occasionally, usually when
I start using the PC but the software that pings them endlessly while
reporting their speed fixes that, as does streaming radio or TV.

Mbps Speeds currently reported as

1. Transmit 317 Receive 223
2. Transmit 589 Receive 381

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[Russell Hafter News]

In article
<gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan

Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone else use a Homeplug device on their network?
> Several times a day I get network dropouts that last up
> to a couple of minutes. I know it's the LAN at fault and
> not the internet because I can't ping the router. I
> wondered if this was a common problem (the devices are
> TP-Link ones).

I have been using Solwise Homeplugs for (I would guess) over
ten years.

The problems that I have had have been down to voltage
surges or simple overheating, which appear to have burnt out
some components. Solwise have replaced some of the devices.

As long as the mains supply is working (not always a routine
thing around here) the Homeplugs always just work. More than
can be said for WiFi.

Any dropouts are down to either the master socket or the
external BT feed to it - it gets damp in the Lake District!

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[Brian]

In article <567e269e...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian

<bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <567e1d72...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian
> <bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <567e1a66...@blueyonder.co.uk>, John
> > <new...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <gemini.owjc9x00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan
> > > Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:

> [snip]

> > Using homeplugs here for a number of years, currently Aztec.

> > Generally very successful but earlier ones, of a different make, have
> > failed. I think they just get a bit tired.

> Not quite true. It's my memory that's tired

> 2 - Solwise plugs - replaced because they were rather slow, 3-Netgear
> plugs - replaced because I then needed 4 plugs, 4-Aztec plugs. All work
> OK.

[snip]

I forgot to say, Alan. If you think the Homeplugs are experiencing
dropouts it may actually be tired ethernet cables at fault rather than the
plugs themselves.

I had forgotten, as is my practice, but I replaced all my ethernet cables
in one go. It made a huge difference.

[Alan Wrigley]

Brian <bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> I forgot to say, Alan. If you think the Homeplugs are experiencing
> dropouts it may actually be tired ethernet cables at fault rather than the
> plugs themselves.

I didn't realise ethernet cables could get tired.

The cable connecting the router to the Homeplug is probably the oldest
ethernet cable I have, so you may be on to something.

[Dave Symes]

In article <gemini.ownc1b00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>,

So all them little electrons that have to keep running up and down the
cable get tired as they get older? ;-)

I was told by an electronics man, many moons ago, it's the metal
connectors in the plugs and sockets that cause lots of the problems.

Unless the connectors are real Gold plated they'll degrade by oxidisation,
and over a long period (Short on really cheap cables) the electrical
connection between the plug and socket obviously degrades with it.

His advice was, for electrically sensitive gear, a couple of times a year,
unplug, then plug back in again, this refreshes the connection.

Dave

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[Brian]

In article <567f365...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk>
wrote:

> In article <gemini.ownc1b00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan
> Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:
> > Brian <bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> > > I forgot to say, Alan. If you think the Homeplugs are experiencing
> > > dropouts it may actually be tired ethernet cables at fault rather
> > > than the plugs themselves.

> > I didn't realise ethernet cables could get tired.

OK, corrosion and good old fashioned physical damage, then. Just like
people.

> > The cable connecting the router to the Homeplug is probably the oldest
> > ethernet cable I have, so you may be on to something.

> > Alan

> So all them little electrons that have to keep running up and down the
> cable get tired as they get older? ;-)

Well, one does have to sympathise with them, I'm sure? 8-)

> I was told by an electronics man, many moons ago, it's the metal
> connectors in the plugs and sockets that cause lots of the problems.

Exactly so. Ethernet cables connectors are not immune. Some are not
especially high quality anyway. In fact, right cheap and nasty.

> Unless the connectors are real Gold plated they'll degrade by
> oxidisation, and over a long period (Short on really cheap cables) the
> electrical connection between the plug and socket obviously degrades
> with it.

Exactly so. Yeah, really cheap cables which a lot of them seem to be.

> His advice was, for electrically sensitive gear, a couple of times a
> year, unplug, then plug back in again, this refreshes the connection.

No argument. That is what I did without it showing much reduction in drop
outs, at which point they were replaced, which in turn led to a marked
improvement.

[Brian]

In article <567f3932...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian

<bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <567f365...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <gemini.ownc1b00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>, Alan
> > Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:
> > > Brian <bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> > Unless the connectors are real Gold plated they'll degrade by
> > oxidisation, and over a long period (Short on really cheap cables) the
> > electrical connection between the plug and socket obviously degrades
> > with it.

> Exactly so. Yeah, really cheap cables which a lot of them seem to be.

> > His advice was, for electrically sensitive gear, a couple of times a
> > year, unplug, then plug back in again, this refreshes the connection.

> No argument. That is what I did without it showing much reduction in
> drop outs, at which point they were replaced, which in turn led to a
> marked improvement.

Oh, forgot. There are two sides to your Homeplugs installation.

What's your house wiring installation like?

I had mine brought up to current standards recently and re-certificated.

My brother lives in the Highlands and experiences lousy S/N. He suggested
that I run routerstats-lite, which I now do so, continuously.

I was astonished at the change in S/N as I upgraded my Homeplugs and
ethernet cables.

[Tim Hill]

In article <567f6fea...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian

<bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <567f3932...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian
> <bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <567f365...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes
> > <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <gemini.ownc1b00...@alanwrigley.me.uk>,
> > > Alan Wrigley <use...@alanwrigley.me.uk> wrote:
> > > > Brian <bba...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> [snip]

> > > Unless the connectors are real Gold plated they'll degrade by
> > > oxidisation, and over a long period (Short on really cheap cables)
> > > the electrical connection between the plug and socket obviously
> > > degrades with it.

> > Exactly so. Yeah, really cheap cables which a lot of them seem to be.

I suppose it may be good practice to always make use of the new Cat5
cable which comes with a new grey box, rather than just connect the box
to existing cables and chuck the new one in a drawer.

Nevertheless I am always kept hugely entertained by people who claim
expensive HDMI cables give a better picture than a cheap one so let's not
rain on their parade.