Perris Whitehart recurves

[Andrew Cowley]

I am thinking about getting a second hand bow which is a Perris
Whitehart recurve and I have never heard of them before. I would be very
grateful if some people could give their opinions on the bows.

Information about me: I've recently come back to archery after quite a
break. I was shooting around 500 for a Portsmouth on a club-loan bow
(=not very good!) and this will be the first bow I buy, but I don't want
to have to buy another one really.

I've a short draw length (26-27) which suits it's 66" and 38 lbs.

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

[John R Grove]

Check how old it is. The original Perris was very good in its time (long
before I started shooting) It's an unusual bow because the limbs are of
differing lengths. The handle is short under the hand and the bottom
limb is longer than the top to compensate.

Some where along the way the company got sold, and the new owners
continued to have the handles cast but bought the limbs from Border,
they also changed some of the angles a bit. These later ones do not seem
to be as highly regarded as the originals.

Owners of the originals who bought new ones because their bows were
getting old were disapointed with the performance of the new ones.

Never used one myself so all the above is just heresay from the shooting
line. Don't know if they still exist they were still advertising
ocassionally a few years ago.

In article <39FFFEDD...@york.ac.uk>, Andrew Cowley
<apc...@york.ac.uk> writes

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John R Grove

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So far as I know, Perris Whiteharts are still made and sold by Perris
Archery (Essex based shop and manufacturer). Also so far as I know,
it's been run by by the same guy (Tony Preston) for at least the last
10 years! I've never seen one that didn't have Border limbs (though
they weren't always marked as such).
I always heard that the Whitehart was a good tournament bow (same sort
of standard as the KG1 or GM), you certainly still see a lot of them
around in the Southeast, and there were a fair number of them in
evidence at the last inter-county match I took part in (so being shot
at a middling high level). I've never shot one myself, but the latest
set of paint jobs on them are VERY nice (variations on the sun or moon
through clouds), so much so, I'm almost tempted.
I'd agree that it's a good idea to check the age, Whiteharts have been
around for a long time, and the older ones are probably at (or past)
the end of their useful life - everything breaks eventually...
If it's got a serial number on it you might be able to find how old it
is from Perris Archery:
Address: Fennes Estate, Fennes Road, Bocking, Braintree, Essex, CM7 5PL
Tel: 01376 331017

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[Andrew Cowley]

Thank you both for your helpful replies - it seems pretty much the right
bow for me. I was looking for something like a KG1 so this sounds
perfect (and better). The paint job is just metallic blue and fairly
chipped, but I'm more for functionallity than looks.

I also heard from someone suggesting I get two strings with different
nocking points for different ranges, to counter the problem of limb
sizes.

Thanks again,

Andrew

[John R Grove]

>I also heard from someone suggesting I get two strings with different
>nocking points for different ranges, to counter the problem of limb
>sizes.

eh, what!! don't be daft. They were designed like that so it isn't a
problem.

The problem is that most of them in Yorkshire are pretty old. Up here
you mostly find them being shot by the old timers who have had them for
donkeys years, long before the KG1 came on the scene.
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John R Grove

[Gary Funnell]

Perris Whitehart

These have always been produced by Tony Preston and using Border Limbs.

Are they any good, well that always depends on the archer not the bow, but
saying that there have been several archers that have made British National
Squad using this bow, so it can be classed as good.

New angles, well as far as I know the angles have not been changed in its
lifetime, though Border have made a few slight changes to the limbs in time.

Paint finish, it can always be re-painted, Tony at Perris Archery uses a
custom refinisher and you can get any thing painted on the bow all at a very
reasonable price.

Gary

"John R Grove" <ARCH...@sherwood3.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >I also heard from someone suggesting I get two strings with different
> >nocking points for different ranges, to counter the problem of limb
> >sizes.

[Andrew Cowley]

John R Grove wrote:
>
> >I also heard from someone suggesting I get two strings with different
> >nocking points for different ranges, to counter the problem of limb
> >sizes.

> eh, what!! don't be daft. They were designed like that so it isn't a
> problem.

*blush* OK :)

> The problem is that most of them in Yorkshire are pretty old. Up here
> you mostly find them being shot by the old timers who have had them for
> donkeys years, long before the KG1 came on the scene.

Well I'm up in York (at the uni). I couldn't find a serial number and
aside from some worn paintwork it doesn't look too old (but I probably
wouldn't be able to tell).

Haven't Marksman gone down now? I had wanted to get a KG1 shortly before
I stopped shooting at my last uni.

I've only shot with the bow twice so far and I do like it - but then
again I've never shot a metal riser before. Last time I tried with some
X7 1814's and was amazed at the speed of the bow (had previously shot
with arrows 4 inches too long!) It certainly shows up some problems in
my technique I'd never seen before. Notably when I remember _not_ to
grab the bow on release the string is hitting my finger muscles (about
12 cms forward of my elbow). Instinctivly I am grabbing the handle on
release and this prevents it. I think my release is at fault and the
fast bow shows up the fault. I might try a spacer tab as well as I've
noticed some pinching too.

Thanks,

Andrew

[John Kearney]

On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:15:27 +0000, Andrew Cowley <apc...@york.ac.uk>
wrote:

>John R Grove wrote:
<snip>

>> The problem is that most of them in Yorkshire are pretty old. Up here
>> you mostly find them being shot by the old timers who have had them for
>> donkeys years, long before the KG1 came on the scene.

That has to be old. The KG1 was around for about 20 years.

>Well I'm up in York (at the uni). I couldn't find a serial number and
>aside from some worn paintwork it doesn't look too old (but I probably
>wouldn't be able to tell).
>
>Haven't Marksman gone down now? I had wanted to get a KG1 shortly before
>I stopped shooting at my last uni.

I'm afraid so. I hear the guys who worked on the limbs are still
making limbs for Browning recurves, and I'm pretty sure that the
Custom Built Archery limbs I saw had the same writing on them that
Marksman limbs have.

John Kearney