Gold Tip arrows and hunting weight requirements ?

[Suman Palit]

Hi,

I'm shooting some new arrows: GoldTip XT 3555's from my 50# (@28") Martin
Dreamcatcher. The arrow shafts are 28.5 inches (total arrow length with nock
is 29"), and my actual draw length is around 27.5 ". The arrows appear to be
spined slightly weak with a 100 grain field tip on them. (from some 15 yd
test shots so far). My first question is: is there a way to stiffen these
shafts without cutting them any furthur , such as adding weights to the nock
end ?

Also, the total arrow weight with easton uni-nock (10 gr) + point insert(19
gr) + three 5" feathers (9 gr) + 100 gr tip, is around 345 gr +/- 3 gr. I've
read in prior posts that hunting arrows should weigh around 10gr per lb of
draw weight. Given that my effective draw weight is around 47-48 lb, I would
need to bump up arrow weight to 470-480 gr. So my second question is, how do
I go about doing that ? I have to add another 140 gr to each arrow to reach
this weight..!!! How can I do that without either weakening or over-stiffing
the spine ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Also, at 15 yds, these
arrows practically punch through my "Burly" bag target, so should I even be
concerned about losing penetration at all..

Thanks very much

Suman Palit

[Kerry Kingsbury]

Try the same shaft with an 85 grain head. You certainly have enough energy
for hunting from your Burly bag reference. If you wish a bit more weight
and a stiffer spine try a 5575 shaft with 100-125 gr head. My sons might
buy your used 3555 for their use if you find the 5575 better.

As to 10gr/lb for hunting...I think 6-7 can easily do the job. And your own
observation seems to support that.

Kerry
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[Don]

I shot 3555 last year with 85 gr. heads 29 inches and 65 LB > I shot a elk
at 40 yards the arrow went through him and out than through his ham and he
through the arrow in about ten steps. It did not break the arrow in fact I
may have shot a deer to with it. I also shot two deer last year and shot
through them and into the ground, I sat a new bow the other day and I'm
going to shot them at 70 lbs. 28.5 inch and they weigh in at 341gr with a 85
gr. broadhead. I have shot carbon arrows for many years I have hunted for
about 35 years. I have taken to may deer to remember but the carbon arrow
always shot through them and into the ground. I would give them up for
target but, I will not give them up for hunting they are the best hunting
arrows I have ever used for hunting.

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Don.
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[Suman Palit]

Thanks for all your help.. I also found out that GoldTip makes nock and
point insert weights and pins for the purpose of adding mass weight and
changing arrow spine. Black Widow bows www.blackwidowbows.com sells them
through their catalog. I'm going to try to stiffen my arrows with a 10-20
grain nock insert weight without switching to a lower grain point. Since the
spine is only slightly weak (at 15 yds, the nock end of the arrow is about
an inch or less to the left of the point) this might actually work for me,
and provide a little more arrow weight..

I'm also heartened to know that an arrow weight of 340gr or so for a
graphite arrow gives more than enough penetration for most kinds of game..

Suman Palit

Don <don...@netins.net> wrote in message
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[LFrene4599]

>Hi,
>
>I'm shooting some new arrows: GoldTip XT 3555's from my 50# (@28") Martin
>Dreamcatcher. The arrow shafts are 28.5 inches (total arrow length with nock
>is 29"), and my actual draw length is around 27.5 ". The arrows appear to be
>spined slightly weak with a 100 grain field tip on them. (from some 15 yd

>test shots so far). My first question is: is there a way to stiffen these
>shafts without cutting them any furthur , such as adding weights to the nock
>end ?
>
>Also, the total arrow weight with easton uni-nock (10 gr) + point insert(19
>gr) + three 5" feathers (9 gr) + 100 gr tip, is around 345 gr +/- 3 gr. I've
>read in prior posts that hunting arrows should weigh around 10gr per lb of
>draw weight. Given that my effective draw weight is around 47-48 lb, I would
>need to bump up arrow weight to 470-480 gr. So my second question is, how do
>I go about doing that ? I have to add another 140 gr to each arrow to reach
>this weight..!!! How can I do that without either weakening or over-stiffing
>the spine ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Also, at 15 yds, these
>arrows practically punch through my "Burly" bag target, so should I even be
>concerned about losing penetration at all..
>
>Thanks very much
>
>Suman Palit
>
>

easy does it Suman, you have a 50lb bow, you only need 250 grains of arrow
weight to be warrenty legal, some states however require 7 to 8 grains per
pound. thats something to check out before hunting each state. lets say your
bow is shooting 250 ft per sec you have 345 grains of arrow you will produce
47.89 lbs of kinetic energy wich is good for white tails. i shoot a mathews
ultra max at 304 per sec and my arrow weight is 325grains this makes for 66.71
lbs of energy. you are definitly not under spinds for sure if anything you
might be a bit over spind but if you want more weight go for it, you can
stiffin the arrow by dropping weight of the tip, try a 75 grain head and see
how it flys,, you will also get more speed from it but will lose some kinetics.