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Gary Raymond

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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Does anyone have any experience with Oneida bows, and or comparisons to
traditional compound bows? thanks in advance.
Gary Raymond


Andy Prisco

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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IMO...by far, the best combination of smooth draw, stability, and speed in a
compound bow. Once you shoot one, you won't go back.

Andy
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David Stevens

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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Razorhead1 wrote in message <19981028201034...@ng80.aol.com>...
>Well, for my hard earned cash, there is few better choices to be made.
Although
>I shoot mainly traditional, all of my compounds save for my target bow, are
>Oneida. It was a very popular "crossover" in the mid to late Eighties,
because
>they resembled a recurve, and were available with let-offs as low as 40%
>
>I like them still, so much as I went out and bought a Stealth Eagle as soon
as
>they were announced.
>
>
>John
>http://members.aol.com/Razorhead1
I have to agree. I have shot them for about 8 years now. I have tried many
other but keep coming back, due to the ease of draw, smoothness and lack of
recoil. They look complicated but they are the easiest there are to tune,
they are fast and fairly quiet. I haven't tried the Stealth Eagle yet. If
you want to shoot 75-80% let off I would recommend a release- as it is
difficult to get off the string with fingers.

Razorhead1

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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david

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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ONeida bows are about as smooth as a bow can get. The wall is a little mushy
and there are a lot of places for dirt and grime to get in the way and they
are a release-only bow. But, with that said, they are great and accurate and
when i said they are smooth i meant it...no bow competes in the easy draw
catagory which is especially important for those of us who enjoy
still-hunting. If you like it...go with it.

david
www.edersbow.com
da...@edersbow.com

Razorhead1

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Oct 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/30/98
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Release only? Bahhh!

Although, the 80% and to some extent the 65% does not lend itself to good
finger release. Plus, Pope & Young does not recognize bowkills at letoffs over
65%.

I have a couple of Strike Eagles in my collection, and a better finger released
compound will be harder to come by.


John Dickmon
http://members.aol.com/Razorhead1
Human by Providence
Hunter by Instinct
Bowhunter by Choice

D.Grabowski

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Oct 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/30/98
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On 28 Oct 1998 18:06:55 GMT, "Andy Prisco"
<andyp...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>IMO...by far, the best combination of smooth draw, stability, and speed in a
>compound bow. Once you shoot one, you won't go back.
>
>Andy

>Gary Raymond wrote in message
><11394-36...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
>Does anyone have any experience with Oneida bows, and or comparisons to
>traditional compound bows? thanks in advance.
>Gary Raymond

To anyone or everyone responding to this thread,

Have you guys experienced power cable failure with your Onieda bows?
How about limb hinge pin failure? It seems that the local shop I deal
with has had a nasty run with power cables on these bows and to a
lesser extent , hinge failure problems.. Most of them are later design
Oniedas , a couple of the owners of the bows tell me that they had no
warning when the cables let go.Some of these guys have had more than
one set let go in two years time and have now traded them off for
other brands. Added to this is my son-inlaws frayed power cables on
his two year old Onieda Aeroforce, forcing replacement of the cables
in the first year of ownership. I was interested in Onieda at one time
because of the smooth draw but with this development I have now turned
away and I'm not alone in this area.

What do you guys have to say about this? Note that I am not knocking
these bows but at the same time I know these guys had problems for
sure.
David G.


David Stevens

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Oct 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/30/98
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I have to agree. I have shot an AeroForce for about 9 years with fingers and
there are 5 of us that shoot them for 3D and hunting- all shooting fingers.
As for the cables yes thy do break form time to time-as do most cables on
high preformance bows. I replace mine about once a year. Usually the cable
will break above the can where it rolls over the cam-every so often use the
edge of a knofe and slide it down the cable to "feel" for burrs on the
cable if you find a burr the it is time to replace the cable. None of us
have ever had a hinge pin problem.

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Razorhead1

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Oct 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/30/98
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>. None of us
>have ever had a hinge pin problem.
>

I have....but it's from shooting the bow loose. A thousand arrows a week was
not uncommon for me to shoot when I was actively competing.

Recondition once a year, cables, limb pivots, hinges, string, etc., and you'll
never have one break in the field or on the range.

Razorhead1

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Oct 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/30/98
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I'd have to say look at my post in the other RE: thread.

I know they did have some underspec cables about the same time the AeroForce
came out, and I had a set of those fail during a tournament, but once I
switched to the new, heavier production, I've never and I mean NEVER had a
cable problem.

IMHO These bows shouldn't be shot anywhere near IBO arrow weights. I ususllly
shot them around 6.2-6.5 gr/lb. One I built, that had a different limb
configuration, would AMO at nearly 260ft/sec., and IBO wasn't much over 270. So
the bows really favor a heavy arrow. Gotta remember, these are designed with
the hunter in mind, so the use of a heavy arrow is highly reccommended by me.

BIGda...@webtv.net

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Oct 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/30/98
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i have an oneida x80-areo force , sunday i killed my frist good quality
buck (8 - point) I have heard alot of people say that they have too many
moving parts i think this is BS , They are very fast ,smooth , a all
around great bow , BUT i would stay away from the eariler models , they
suck !

BIGda...@webtv.net
chemung N.Y.


Razorhead1

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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Oh no....
not by a long shot.

The Phantom and Screaming Eagle were a couple of Oneida's best bows. What you
had to stay away from was the polycarb limbtips, like on a H series or a
Tomcat. Just get em changed, and you were in Phat City. The early Strikes had
limb problems, too. Later ones, where you could see the anchors of the yoke
cables outside the timing wheel were better.

Han Su Kim

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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The Oneida bows are GREAT bows with a GREAT deal of technical problems
though.

Yeah they look REALLY cool with that recurve/compound system going but I
have heard also a lot of failures with the bow .. espeically limbs breaking
or cables snapping at random points.

But hell I hear it shoots awesome too. It's really up to you .. if you have
the money to afford a bow and really take care of it .. change strings very
often etc tec then why not . but it's really not something I would buy . but
i woul love to use.

Han Su Kim

Razorhead1

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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I will agree it's not a bow for everyone. With the great deal of reflex in the
riser, it will magnify flaws in your shooting form immensely.

But...
Sure they had limb problems on a couple models, so has everyone else.

And when they're on, they're ON. I just bought a Stealth Eagle, and I just may
return to competition with it.

RICHARD D BOWLES JR

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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Gary, I use to shoot an Oneida screaming eagle with fingers. It was
smooth and fast and never had any problems with the cables. But you have to
keep an eye on the cables, I would run my fingers over them all the time
and if I felt a burr in any of them I would change it. Never any problems
with limbs or anything else.I know alot of guys that shoot them and the
biggest problem any of them have is the cables but if you watch them I
don't see any problems that any other bow wouldn't have.

Robert Chambers

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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RICHARD D BOWLES JR wrote:
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> Gary, I use to shoot an Oneida screaming eagle with fingers. It was
> smooth and fast and never had any problems with the cables. But you have to
> keep an eye on the cables, I would run my fingers over them all the time
> and if I felt a burr in any of them I would change it. Never any problems
> with limbs or anything else.I know alot of guys that shoot them and the
> biggest problem any of them have is the cables but if you watch them I
> don't see any problems that any other bow wouldn't have.

I totally agree about the Oneida. I have an Aeroforce that I shoot with
fingers and I find it great. When I bought it the distributer reversed
the limbs, so they were off center; but still shot great. Switched the
limbs - shot the same. I've had the bow for 4 years and changed the
cables once.

I like the lack of torque which is because the cables pull evenly on
each side. I like not having a cable guard. It is a heavy bow which
makes it more forgiving and it's long which makes it more forgiving.

And it's FAST!

Bob Chambers

Razorhead1

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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IMHO, from shooting Oneida's as my compound for the past ten years, NOT
changing the cables and string yearly is flirtin' with disaster. It's cheap
insurance. I think Oneida still has a Factory Recondidtion program, where for a
nominal fee (it used to be 60 bucks, but it may have gone up recently) they
went through the bow and fixed EVERYTHING, including cables, limbpivots,
hinges, etc. That's a DEAL and I would encourage any Oneida shooter to take
advantage of that if the program is still available. Come to think of it, I'll
call today and get the skinny and post it here, later.


John Dickmon
http://members.aol.com/Razorhead1

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