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Scot Heath

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Nov 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/30/98
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In about the last 3 weeks, I have developed a problem which manifests
itself as a progressive down and left arrow impact. Shooting 3 shots at a
Vegas target typically produces the first shot good, the second down and
left anywhere from 1/2" to 2" and the third down and left anywhere from
1/2" to 4".

I shoot right handed, release, 48lb peak compound with a 14# valley, I
shoot from the back wall, my anchor point is a knuckle just below my ear.

Anyone have this happen to them? Any ideas?

-Scot

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GKyzerPPL

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Nov 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/30/98
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Are you moving your bow arm to see where your arrow lands?.....If you're
looking to see where your arrow hits....I promise you....you'll see a bad
shot!......


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Colin Glenister

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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Scot

I suggest you're not PULLING your shot down but dropping your bow arm. I
have seen compound archers with a right to left arrow pattern - it can often
be caused by a draw length slightly too long: the over reach in the draw to
reach the valley or wall over extends the shoulders which destabilises the
bow arm (but gives a great reaction off the string hand) the bow arm
explodes (not by much usually) to the left as the release aid or loose is
executed. The loss of height you're experiencing is almost certainly a
dropping of the bow arm as it explodes left.

Get your Coach or an archery shop assistant to check your draw length is
correct.

Do you bend your bow arm at full draw? If so stop doing that too and shoot
with a straight, relaxed bow arm a la recurve archery.

Colin


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Michael Gordon

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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Common cause is lack of follow through. Hold your bow on target until arrow
impact. If you drop to watch arrow flight you will shoot low and left from a
right hand shooter and low and right from a left hander.
Mike

barbers

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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Check to see if you are raising your bowarm shoulder higher than usual. A
high bowarm shoulder can manifest itself in a low left arrow ( for a right
handed shooter)

barbers

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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Note on bent bowarm. A straight relaxed bowarm will normally cause more
bowdrop, not less. The relaxed, slightly bent bowarm elbow will tend to use
more of the stronger back muscles and will hold up the arm better on
release. This has to be combined with other good techniques, however.
Gil

RH1037

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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low and left..... ABSOLUTELY..... I have found with this shot it comes from
being too anxious about where your arrow is going and LOOKING FOR IT. Stay
with the shot and let it fly...after all you can't effect it anymore
anyway....AVOID BODY ENGLISH!>In about the last 3 weeks, I have developed a

problem which manifests
>>itself as a progressive down and left arrow impact. Shooting 3 shots at a
>>Vegas target typically produces the first shot good, the second down and
>>left anywhere from 1/2" to 2" and the third down and left anywhere from

Colin Glenister

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Dec 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/2/98
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Nonsense!!!!!

Watch the recurve archers - all shoot with a straight arm and none exhibit
the problems under discussion.

Both Frank Pearson and Wip Weekers have publicly decried the bent bow arm
fallacy


Coling
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GKyzerPPL

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Dec 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/3/98
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>Watch the recurve archers - all shoot with a straight arm and none exhibit
>the problems under discussion.
>
>

So you're saying that ALL recurve shooters never have bad form when shooting
with a straight arm....that's nonsense!!!.....

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Han Su Kim

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Dec 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/3/98
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Well this may be the case of poor form but I'm going to be a devil's
advocate and through this fact out.

He said the first arrow is on the money

THe seond carrow goes down and left from .5 to 2 inches

The third arrow goes down from .5 to 4 inches (4 inches is I think off the
target in Vegas 3 spot)

Doesn't this suggest something else besides bad form? Also we don't know
which spot is 1st 2nd and 3rd. This might be a form of target panic I
think. I tend to in the beginning when warming up on a 3 spot shoot on the
money my first arrow which is the bottom left, then shoot slightly left with
the second and then totally off on the thrid because I can't comprehend in
my mind 3 bulleye's instead of concentrating on one.

Given a little warm up I'm fine, but I'd still rather shoot a 1 spot

Han SU Kim

Colin Glenister

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Dec 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/8/98
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Nope!

I didn't say that. What I said was that they didn't have the problem
under discussion because their bow arm/shoulder girdle is correctly
supporting the mass of the bow. The problem of low left arrows with
recurve archers is caused by a different set of circumstances. A
dropped bow arm with a recurve archer will generally result in a
vertical arrow pattern

Ok/


coling

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Colin Glenister

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Dec 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/8/98
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I think this is a red herring and a dangerous one to suggest target
panic.

coling

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