neons
Jules59
started out with 7 neons and after being away for 2 days came back and there
were only 6 left. I just, again, returned after being gone for 2 days and
although there are still 6, I noticed one of them keeping to itself inside of
a piece of wood. When it finally came out to eat it , I saw it had lost its
bright blue color. It ate and was somewhat active, but diappeared again into
the wood. If this fish has the sickness I just read about (loses color and
becomes mis-shaped), are all my neons at risk? Besides treatment and
vitamins, are other factors such as water temperature, etc., also possibly at
the root of the problem?
Thanks.
kitten
carlrs
What is your ph? 6.5 to 7.5 works for most farm raised neons.
What is your ammonia? 0 is best
What is your KH? 80 ppm or more is best
What are you feeding? Spirulina flake is a good flake, TetraMin is not.
Here is good link for alot usefull information:
http://aquarium-info.blogspot.com/
Carl
kitten
of the best all around general foods out there. there are at least 200
generations of angelfish, 100 or more generations of bettas ... not to
mention over 5,000 guppies . and some 30 or so other speci of fish, that
were raised on little else.
I was under the impression that neon tetras _Paracheirodon innesi_ was an
insectivore in nature, preferring meaty foods. Thus a food like Blue-green
algae,-Spirulina specie- while useful is certainly not as complete a diet as
a food like tetramin.\
these days there are many fine fish foods. i generally feed a mixture of
brand name flakes/pellets, then supplement with frozen foods and the
occasional live baby brine shrimp.
neon tetra disease is really stress related to poor water conditions coupled
with the breeding practices of the Asian breeders (crowded ponds, lots of
inbreeding, shipping in too little water etc...) where most aquarium neon's
come from.
while some think neon's are good beginner fish, i think they are best kept
by slightly more advanced keepers
"carlrs" <ca...@americanaquariumproducts.com> wrote in message
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carlrs
kitten wrote:
> i concur with most of what you said but in my experience, tetramin is one
> of the best all around general foods out there. there are at least 200
> generations of angelfish, 100 or more generations of bettas ... not to
> mention over 5,000 guppies . and some 30 or so other speci of fish, that
> were raised on little else.
>
> I was under the impression that neon tetras _Paracheirodon innesi_ was an
> insectivore in nature, preferring meaty foods. Thus a food like Blue-green
> algae,-Spirulina specie- while useful is certainly not as complete a diet as
> a food like tetramin.\
>
> these days there are many fine fish foods. i generally feed a mixture of
> brand name flakes/pellets, then supplement with frozen foods and the
> occasional live baby brine shrimp.
>
> neon tetra disease is really stress related to poor water conditions coupled
> with the breeding practices of the Asian breeders (crowded ponds, lots of
> inbreeding, shipping in too little water etc...) where most aquarium neon's
> come from.
>
> while some think neon's are good beginner fish, i think they are best kept
> by slightly more advanced keepers
I also agree with most of your points, especially as to the causes of
neon tetra diseases.
But I stand by my comments about Tetra foods, as they are too high in
cereal (which is just roughage to fish), too much food coloring and not
enough aquatic based ingredients including Whole fish meal, not just
left over fish meal.
These points also come from year of attendance of Aquarium Trade shows
where similar opinions have been expressed.
Carl
kitten
> neon tetra diseases.
> But I stand by my comments about Tetra foods, as they are too high in
> cereal (which is just roughage to fish), too much food coloring and not
> enough aquatic based ingredients including Whole fish meal, not just
> left over fish meal.
> These points also come from year of attendance of Aquarium Trade shows
> where similar opinions have been expressed.
>
> Carl
>
i guess it is much a matter of experences, part of the art of keeping fish.
I too \hav.e attended many aquarium shows. Even exibited at some; Fickle
places / events they are. Trends start or stop for little logical reason.
In my experence Tetra Staple food has formed the basis of much of my fresh
water success.
if your refering to flake foods in general, then i agree, but comparing my
own results over the years there seems little difference in the major
brands. It does seem that tetra is as well balanced if not more then the
others.
carlrs
kitten wrote:
> i guess it is much a matter of experences, part of the art of keeping fish.
> I too \hav.e attended many aquarium shows. Even exibited at some; Fickle
> places / events they are. Trends start or stop for little logical reason.
That is a good point. I have to admit that these trade show have
sometimes alot to offer, and sometimes snake oil products.
> if your refering to flake foods in general, then i agree, but comparing my
> own results over the years there seems little difference in the major
> brands. It does seem that tetra is as well balanced if not more then the
> others.
Probably my most eye opening experience was with an aquariun service
customer in the 1980s (the Bahooka restaurant) where we not only
maintained the 100 + aquariums, we did all feeding. We used this place
to conduct side by side trials of many foods (many recommended from
Trade Shows). We found a worse water quality and poor coloring add less
disease resistance with Tetra foods. However the growth results were
good (but that is not a surprise as they have plenty of proteins, just
alot of unusable amino acids that add to nitrogenous waste). I have
found many good foods since then, such as Omega, Sanyu, HBH, as well as
the Sprulina 20 have used for a long time as only a portion of my
feeding regimines for my customers.
Great discussion,
Carl
