Beverage Bottles/Cans
David Jonas (cs grad)
of West Virginia printed or stamped on almost every type of beverage can, bottle,
two-liter etc.
I've seen these throughout the east and south. Do western areas have another state
on their cans?
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Mike Reaser
|> Does anyone out there know why there are mini-representations of the state
|> of West Virginia printed or stamped on almost every type of beverage can,
|> bottle, two-liter etc.
Because the Bluefield Bottling (Beverage?? ) Company produces and packages
"store brand" soft drinks for many chains, including Kroger and Winn-Dixie.
I _think_ the little West Virginia on the cans, bottles, etc., are the
seal from the state Department of Agriculture -- like the "Reg. Penna"
stuff is on products from Pennsylvania.
|> I've seen these throughout the east and south.
I _know_ BBC does "Big K" for Kroger and "Chek" for Winn-Dixie, so it's
no surpirise you've seen them all over the East, South, and Southeast.
|> The Internet is great for trivia isn't it?
Yeah -- now, if I can just remember where I parked my car after I got
back from lunch... :-)
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In article <27kts8...@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>, d...@mathcs.emory.edu (David Jonas (cs grad)) writes:
>Does anyone out there know why there are mini-representations of the state
>of West Virginia printed or stamped on almost every type of beverage can, bottle,
>two-liter etc.
If you notice on those little representations of WV on the bottle caps,
there is a "1" in the middle of the state. That means West Virginia is
number 1! :-)
As I understand it, the "1" is the state tax that WV charges for each bottle
of beverage that is sold in the state. Since most bottlers do not want to
distinguish between those sold in WV and those sold elsewhere, I guess
they opt to pay the tax and put the stamp on the bottle cap.
I still like the #1 idea though!
Jack (from Buckhannon, WV)
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a has a tax on soft beverages that was enacted as a "temporary" tax back in the
1950s to finance the new Medical School at WVU. The tax has yet to be repeale
d. The stamp shows up in other states because it is cheaper for bottlers to
put it on all rather than sorting out those that do and don't go to WV.
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>Because the Bluefield Bottling (Beverage?? ) Company produces and packages
>"store brand" soft drinks for many chains, including Kroger and Winn-Dixie.
>I _know_ BBC does "Big K" for Kroger and "Chek" for Winn-Dixie, so it's
All this talk of acronyms makes me want a RIPCO bar.
-Mike
Janie Sue Shinn
From: Jack Stansbury, ja...@eco.twg.com
Date: 20 Sep 1993 20:29:42 GMT
In article <27l3rm$q...@scoop.eco.twg.com> Jack Stansbury,
ja...@eco.twg.com writes:
>If you notice on those little representations of WV on the bottle caps,
>there is a "1" in the middle of the state. That means West Virginia is
>number 1! :-)
>
>
The Pepsi line of soft drinks in the central NY region all have the WV
symbol. (That's one reason why I drink it.) I also like to tell my
Yankee/ New Englander friends that the 1 means #1.
Janie Sue Shinn js...@cornell.edu
Mike Reaser
Uh-huh. To keep this in the vein of acronyms -- why don't we plan to
meet on the Rockland Road sometime this fall, at the farm where our
great-grandfathers were born and raised, to see where the C&O cut
their right-of-way along the Greenbrier River? :-)
fn...@aurora.alaska.edu
quit
fn...@aurora.alaska.edu
construction of the WVU Med Center. I knows, 'cause I went to WVU starting in
1960. Nice to hear from all you folks with no accent! I'm originally from
Welch, spent most of my time in Morgantown.
Greg Ruff
FN...@acad3.alaska.edu
Avery F. Gaskins
soft drink sold in the state. Its way of doing that is to sell the bottlecaps
with the logo you have mentioned to all bottlers who want to do business in
WV. I imagine that sometimes the bottler is not too careful what caps are
loaded into the machines.
Avery Gaskins
Aaron L Dickey
>Does anyone out there know why there are mini-representations of the state
>of West Virginia printed or stamped on almost every type of beverage can, bottle,
>two-liter etc.
Because there's a special tax on soft drinks in WV, and they have to
either affix a little teeny tax stamp on each container or print the state
outline with the number inside representing the number of cents in tax
that have been applied. It's rather like gas pumps having to have that
sticker that states how much of the cost is pure tax.
Why is it everywhere? Because it's cheaper for the companies just to print
them on EVERY bottle rather than just the WV ones.
>I've seen these throughout the east and south. Do western areas have another state
>on their cans?
Dunno about the west, but I see them all the time up here in NYC,
especially on Snapple and "New York brand Seltzer" (which is NOT made in
NY). I even see them occasionally on bottles and cans that have to be
specially printed to comply with the recycling laws here in the Northeast.
--Aaron
Aaron L Dickey
>If you notice on those little representations of WV on the bottle caps,
>there is a "1" in the middle of the state. That means West Virginia is
>number 1! :-)
Uh, if you get a three-liter, the state has a "3" in it. :(
Actually,according to state law, supermarkets are supposed to post a sign
listting the tax-per-ounce in the soft drink aisle. Maybe someone still
down there can pop into a Kroger (where I KNOW they post the sign) and
copy it for us.
>As I understand it, the "1" is the state tax that WV charges for each bottle
>of beverage that is sold in the state. Since most bottlers do not want to
>distinguish between those sold in WV and those sold elsewhere, I guess
>they opt to pay the tax and put the stamp on the bottle cap.
They don't have to pay the tax on every bottle, jus the ones actually sold
in WV. It's just cheaper to print them on every one. Just like the "Reg.
Penna. Dept. Agr." You don't really think the PA Dept of Ag really cares
about the food quality in Oregon, do ya? :)
--Aaron
Aaron L Dickey
>The Pepsi line of soft drinks in the central NY region all have the WV
>symbol. (That's one reason why I drink it.) I also like to tell my
>Yankee/ New Englander friends that the 1 means #1.
Actually, that brings up a question: Why IS Pepsi so much more popular in
WV/Appalachia, and Coke more popular in, say, the Northeast?
--Aaron
SUSAN FARMER
>
>Actually, that brings up a question: Why IS Pepsi so much more popular in
>WV/Appalachia, and Coke more popular in, say, the Northeast?
>
>--Aaron
>
Tastes better to me.
Susan
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>In article <CDqKs...@world.std.com> kie...@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:
>>Actually, that brings up a question: Why IS Pepsi so much more popular in
>>WV/Appalachia, and Coke more popular in, say, the Northeast?
>Tastes better to me.
Coke was more popular in WNC. Guess it has something to do with being
closer to Atlanta. :-)
Seriously, I saw a fascinating map about a year ago that had the
country colored according to whether Coke or Pepsi sold better in the
area. Both coasts and virtually the entire Deep South/Texas were red
(for Coke, of course) and pretty much the entire middle of the country
was blue (for the awful 'P' word).
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> d...@mathcs.emory.edu (David Jonas (cs grad)) writes:
>
> >Does anyone out there know why there are mini-representations of the state
> >of West Virginia printed or stamped on almost every type of beverage can,
bottle,
> >two-liter etc.
>
> Because there's a special tax on soft drinks in WV, and they have to
> either affix a little teeny tax stamp on each container or print the state
> outline with the number inside representing the number of cents in tax
> that have been applied. It's rather like gas pumps having to have that
> sticker that states how much of the cost is pure tax.
>
> Why is it everywhere? Because it's cheaper for the companies just to print
> them on EVERY bottle rather than just the WV ones.
>
> >I've seen these throughout the east and south. Do western areas have
another state
> >on their cans?
I noticed the stamp on bottles in Chicago weekend before last - on mineral
water, and several years ago in LA. I'd guess it's all over and more people
than not have no idea what it is or what it represents. I've also seen it
stamped on pop cans.
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>Does anyone out there know why there are mini-representations of the state
>of West Virginia printed or stamped on almost every type of beverage can, bottle,
>two-liter etc.
Yeah. The state levies a special tax of .01 (sheesh, I'm going to get
this wrong) on every can of soda. (I'm sorry that I *do* forget
exactly what for, but I remember it being for a pretty good cause...)
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> In article <CDqKs...@world.std.com> kie...@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:
> >
> >Actually, that brings up a question: Why IS Pepsi so much more popular in
> >WV/Appalachia, and Coke more popular in, say, the Northeast?
> >
> >--Aaron
This is news to me. My mother's family(deep SWVA)swears by
Coca-Cola. It used to be, in fact, that in order to receive
permission to marry into her family, 3 basic qualifications had
to be met. The prospective in-law had to: 1)Be a Democrat, 2)
Drive a Ford, and 3)Drink Coca-Cola. And even though we've now
moved to the border of Appalachia, in Montgomery County,
Va(near Virginia Tech), Mom still refuses to allow Pepsi
products into the house.
Having a Coke and a Smile :-),
--Ron Barber
Charles Myers
ABC store is? Why was/are they called 'ABC'? I know they used to have
them in WVA. Don't know if they still have them now or not.
Virginia, Ohio, and Kentucky still have the state-run stores which are the
only place to buy any hard stuff, even though they sell beer and wine in
supermarkets and convenience stores.
My parents, both from WVA, remember when they used to have to belong to
a quasi club to be even able to sit down and order a cocktail.
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> While we're on the topic of beverages, I am wondering what the origin of
>ABC store is? Why was/are they called 'ABC'? I know they used to have
ABC = Alcoholic Beverage Commission, a state bureaucracy.
> My parents, both from WVA, remember when they used to have to belong to
>a quasi club to be even able to sit down and order a cocktail.
Kansas is sort of like that too; it's theoretically illegal to serve alcohol
on an airliner flying over Kansas. I visited a restaurant in KS (ca. 1981)
and was told that only private clubs could serve alcohol, but that I could
join the club for 75 cents.
When I was a kid in Breckinridge Co., Ky, a "dry" county, there was a local
gas station where the (generic :-) coke machine randomly contained a bottle
of beer. Of course, all us kids bought our cokes there! Everybody knew
that it was a den of bootleggers but nothing could be done because they were
the sheriff's inlaws.
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Wanda Wolfe
>ABC store is? Why was/are they called 'ABC'? I know they used to have
>them in WVA. Don't know if they still have them now or not.
>Virginia, Ohio, and Kentucky still have the state-run stores which are the
>only place to buy any hard stuff, even though they sell beer and wine in
>supermarkets and convenience stores.
>
> My parents, both from WVA, remember when they used to have to belong to
>a quasi club to be even able to sit down and order a cocktail.
>
Alcoholic Beverage Control??
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stores" (or "poke stores") were sold to private businesses. Not sure
what's involved in getting a retail liquor license these days, but
there are not very many of them. Also, you don't have to operate as
a "private club" anymore to serve drinks. Not a popular move among the
tee-totalers. (Granny would say, "What's the world coming to?")
Anybody else call them poke stores?
Mike Jones
>far...@cs.utk.edu writes:
>> In article <CDqKs...@world.std.com> kie...@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:
>> >Actually, that brings up a question: Why IS Pepsi so much more popular in
>> >WV/Appalachia, and Coke more popular in, say, the Northeast?
>Coca-Cola. It used to be, in fact, that in order to receive
>permission to marry into her family, 3 basic qualifications had
>to be met. The prospective in-law had to: 1)Be a Democrat, 2)
>Drive a Ford, and 3)Drink Coca-Cola. And even though we've now
>moved to the border of Appalachia, in Montgomery County,
>Va(near Virginia Tech), Mom still refuses to allow Pepsi
>products into the house.
Ha! That reminds me...ever hear anybody described as a "yellow-dog
Democrat"? Of course, when spoken it comes out as "yeller-dawg
Democrat". The etymology, as it was explained to me, was somebody who
was so Democratic that he'd vote for a yellow dog if it ran on the
Democrat ticket.
Did anybody's mom besides mine ever tell them they were so stubborn
they'd argue with a fence post? How 'bout "If I gave you the world,
you'd want a fence around it?"
For that matter, what do folks call their grandparents? Mine on one
side were Grandmaw and Grandpaw Jones, and on the other were Jake
(*everybody* called my grandfather that) and Granny Smith (yes,
really). I knew folks who called them Mammaw and Pappaw, and I know
there were others I can't recall. My latitude's too high these days.
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>In article 7...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU, rp...@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Ronald Parker Barber) writes:
>
>Did anybody's mom besides mine ever tell them they were so stubborn
>they'd argue with a fence post? How 'bout "If I gave you the world,
>you'd want a fence around it?"
>
My mom said, "You're so stubborn you'd argue a black sheep was white."
>
>For that matter, what do folks call their grandparents? Mine on one
>side were Grandmaw and Grandpaw Jones, and on the other were Jake
>(*everybody* called my grandfather that) and Granny Smith (yes,
>really). I knew folks who called them Mammaw and Pappaw, and I know
>there were others I can't recall. My latitude's too high these days.
>
I was never very close to my father's family, but my mom's parents
were alway Mammaw and Pappaw. Pappaw's mom, the only great-grandparent
I ever knew, was called Big Mommy (since she was about four-foot-nine).
> Mike Jones | jon...@crd.ge.com
>
>An American's a person who isn't afraid to criticize the President
>but is always polite to traffic cops.
>
Scott
Aaron L Dickey
>In article <CDqKs...@world.std.com> kie...@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:
>>
>>Actually, that brings up a question: Why IS Pepsi so much more popular in
>>WV/Appalachia, and Coke more popular in, say, the Northeast?
>>
>>--Aaron
>>
>Because we know a truely class drink when we drink it! :-)
>Tastes better to me.
Yecch...Pepsi's too sweet and leaves a strange coating on your teeth, IMHO.
--Aaron
Aaron L Dickey
>WV got out of the liquor business a couple years ago. All the "state
>stores" (or "poke stores") were sold to private businesses. Not sure
>what's involved in getting a retail liquor license these days, but
>there are not very many of them.
Depends on where in WV you aare. Huntington, Charleston, there are tons
there. Getting a liquor license really only entails not being a felon and
being able to afford the filing fee. I'm sure such places are harder to
find in more rural areas though.
Wanda Wolfe
Anybody else ever hear this one? If we asked my dad for money, his
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>ABC store is? Why was/are they called 'ABC'? I know they used to have
>them in WVA. Don't know if they still have them now or not.
>Virginia, Ohio, and Kentucky still have the state-run stores which are the
>only place to buy any hard stuff, even though they sell beer and wine in
>supermarkets and convenience stores.
Alcoholic Beverage Commission stores. They were being privatized last count I
had. Like many monopolies, it did not exactly have a wide selection, nor were
they very efficient. But by the same token, all profits did get funneled back
into the state.
>
>
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He calls them Mamaw and Papaw and Yayaw and Papoos.
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SUSAN FARMER
them once. :-) My editor is just too totally wierd and won't let you post
if you have more included lines than original lines, so that's why I frequently
don't include. On to bigger and better things.
Grandparents: Granny and Pa (My dad's were Granny and Pa to him and he
insists on being Pa to my son.) Note that it's Paw, not that yankee "pa".
My mom's paternal grandparents were Grandpa and Grandma; Maternal grandfather
was Poppy. (That's what his children called him to.) Her G'GRandmother
was Grandma Carrico.
My grandmother, Granny, will be 94 the end of this month. If everybody
shows, there should be 74 for the party. :-)
susan (whose roots are in Wise County)
Avery F. Gaskins
Other states had ABC stores, but they all had the same purpose: to holf off
the "Prohibitionists" after 1932. The theory was that state control of access
would, at least, slow down consumption. We all know how that turned out. It
was, as has been said, costly and inefficient.
Avery Gaskins
DB...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
My mother always said "Shit fire ...and save the matches". A painful
expression!
Her father, who from what I can barely remember and have heard was
pretty ornery, used to say "Blue headed Jesus Christ, May forked tail
lightning strike you." My mom says it used to scare her silly when he
said that. I have know idea where that one came from.
Diana & the equines, the canines and the felines (in WV).
Bonnie B. Lynch
"Don't get all het up about it!" (Translated "don't get upset!") Not sure
what the "het" part is all about. Same translation for "don't get your
bowels in an uproar!"
Jim Burke
And my uncle used to say "If you do that, you're gonna have a
shit pot full of trouble". You could also have a shit pot full
of lots of things.
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het = heated. In other words, don't get all heated up. My grandmother used
het a lot. She het the leftovers so we could snack on them, etc.
Avery F. Gaskins
Modern speakers still use the equivalent when they say "He got all "hot"
about it," meaning angry.
Avery Gaskins
Wendell R. Cochran
"het" no doubt comes from "heated", so don't get all heated up
alternatively, head of steam , thus "het"