Why AOL went offline ... and you may too
Steve Gibson
What does Cisco stand for??
Case's Internet System Crapped Out
That's right, Steve Case and his AOL pig fell victim to some mickey
mouse networking equipment. Unfortunatly for AOL, they were the first
ISP to feel real pain from using equipment made by Cisco Systems. Cisco
tout's them
selves as the #1 provider of networking equipment in the world...yada
yada yada. Too bad it doesn't work. Cisco has also paid off all the
right people, to keep the truth out of the press, including their
beloved sweethear
t Computerworld, or should I say "Ciscoworld". Of course it's not good
PR for AOL to come out and say that Cisco was behind the crash, but the
truth hurt's. Unfortunately, everyone is at risk because Cisco is the
dominant
provider of Routers to the ISP market. So basically, Netcom, UUNET,
Prodigy, etc. or any ISP that has Cisco equipment in their network is
at risk.
The worst part about this is that AOL and Cisco won't publically own up
to the fact that they had a major meltdown in their equipment, and none
of the major trade rags or newspapers will do the story because Cisco
is grea
sing their palms.
Imagine an internet, running on Cisco equipment that has already
crashed and will again. Cisco is even trying to push their proprietary
Internet Operating System on the world. What are they thinking??
Maybe some maverick reporter at the New York times or 20/20 or
Ciscoworld will grow a set of nut's and uncover the truth not only
about AOL being a half assed ISP but also the fact that their equipment
is substandard.
DAwn G. (hv)
In article <4vb9lu$n...@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, on 20 Aug 1996 02:59:10 GMT,
i...@ix.netcom.co (Steve Gibson) wrote-->
>
>What does Cisco stand for??
>
>Case's Internet System Crapped Out
>
>That's right, Steve Case and his AOL pig fell victim to some mickey
>mouse networking equipment. Unfortunatly for AOL, they were the first
DAwn Replies----->>>
C'mon... let's not start a vendetta against Cisco.
Folks who seem to know tell me that AOL went down because they violated
a cardinal rule and committed a supreme no-no.
They dorked with their hardware and software at the same time.
-----DAwn G.
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On 20 Aug 1996 02:59:10 GMT, i...@ix.netcom.com(Steve Gibson) wrote:
>What does Cisco stand for??
>
>Case's Internet System Crapped Out
>
>That's right, Steve Case and his AOL pig fell victim to some mickey
>mouse networking equipment. Unfortunatly for AOL, they were the first
>ISP to feel real pain from using equipment made by Cisco Systems.
<remainder of anti-Cisco diatribe dropped>
Do you have -any- *evidence* to back up any of what you claimed in this
post?
AOL's official statement was that configuration changes to the routers
at ANS (AOL's networking subsidiary) was the cause of the outage, and
the duration was due to AOL not realizing that a typo was made in the
ANS routing tables...
AOL has been very firm on taking responsibility for its problem - up to
and including refusing to even divulge to the press the names of their
equipment vendors...
So, what is the source of your "insight"?:
Art Stone (ex-AOL customer since 3/1/96)
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Vinny Hrovat
In our last episode, i...@ix.netcom.com(Steve Gibson) spoke thusly:
>What does Cisco stand for??
>Case's Internet System Crapped Out
>That's right, Steve Case and his AOL pig fell victim to some mickey
>mouse networking equipment. Unfortunatly for AOL, they were the first
< several more lines of unsubstantiated Scoobydrama clipped . . . .>
Not "Cisco," but "Cisco codes." Like modem strings, but on a much grander
scale . . . .
The 19 hour downtime was attributed by AOL to router configuration errors,
complicated by other human errors at AOL. Anyone who's ever dealt with AOL
employees for anything more than a hollow sales pitch shouldn't have a problem
believing that. Why would they accept the blame (something they rarely do) if
it wasn't rightfully theirs?
---
Vinny Hrovat | gr...@wco.com | http://www.wco.com/~grix/
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"If guns are outlawed, how can I shoot liberals?"
Jeff Carpenter
gr...@wco.com (Vinny Hrovat) wrote:
>The 19 hour downtime was attributed by AOL to router configuration errors,
>complicated by other human errors at AOL. Anyone who's ever dealt with AOL
>employees for anything more than a hollow sales pitch shouldn't have a problem
>believing that. Why would they accept the blame (something they rarely do) if
>it wasn't rightfully theirs?
Because they are the name on the package? Most reputable businesses
take the heat for the partners.
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Rich Jankowski
>gr...@wco.com (Vinny Hrovat) wrote:
>
>>The 19 hour downtime was attributed by AOL to router configuration errors,
>>complicated by other human errors at AOL. Anyone who's ever dealt with AOL
>>employees for anything more than a hollow sales pitch shouldn't have a problem
>>believing that. Why would they accept the blame (something they rarely do) if
>>it wasn't rightfully theirs?
>
>Because they are the name on the package? Most reputable businesses
>take the heat for the partners.
Jeff, how much free AOL time are you getting to cast doubt on anything
that's said in this newsgroup? C'mon, AOL take the heat for something
that wasn't their fault?
I honestly would like to believe that you're smarter than that, I
really do. But, you have to be one of the most outlandish retards
that have ever graced this newsgroup, you're fucking bizarre. You
have defended AOL, most of the time not in defense, but rather a
desire to disagree with what's said.
I'd like to hear about AOL taking the heat for someone else, but you
know that's not going to happen. Jeff, face the facts, AOL screwed up
while configuring a router. While they had the router offline,
someone else started playing with another router. Lack of
communication, it happens.
If it truly wasn't AOL's fault, they could have said "hardware
problems" without mentioning Cisco's name, couldn't they? Why didn't
they? These are the things you should think of before replying to a
post the way you did. Use your head before replying.
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Rich Jankowski
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