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jpcs...@aol.com

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Nov 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/13/96
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OTHER INDUSTIRES HAVE TRIED AUTOMATIC PRICE INCREASES UNLESS YOU NOTIFY
THEM TO REFUSE. MOST ATTORNIES GENERAL HAVE RULED THIS PRACTICE IS ILLEGAL
AND HAVE ORDERED THEM TO DESIST. AOL CANNOT RAISE BILLS TO 19.95
AUTOMATICALLY UNDER THE LAWS OF MOST STATES.

James Fraas

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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Since when did AOL care about the law?


Jason

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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jpcs...@aol.com wrote:

>AOL CANNOT RAISE BILLS TO 19.95
>AUTOMATICALLY UNDER THE LAWS OF MOST STATES.

Uh oh... aol.com, eh?

The living document is gonna get you for making posts about AOL's
pricing, man... RUN!

It's not U.S. law on AOL... it's the Community Action Team system...
Sorry... I'd suspect someone'll have you TOS'ed and killed by the time
you'll get to read this post...

Jason (jko...@juno.com)


Adam Bailey

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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The screen name is still valid. jpse...@aol.com did not violate the
Terms of Service with the post you referred to.

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Gary Kirchherr

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.961114...@xochi.tezcat.com>,
Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Jason wrote:
>
> > jpcs...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >AOL CANNOT RAISE BILLS TO 19.95
> > >AUTOMATICALLY UNDER THE LAWS OF MOST STATES.
> >
> > Uh oh... aol.com, eh?
> >
> > The living document is gonna get you for making posts about AOL's
> > pricing, man... RUN!
> >
> > It's not U.S. law on AOL... it's the Community Action Team system...
> > Sorry... I'd suspect someone'll have you TOS'ed and killed by the time
> > you'll get to read this post...
>
> The screen name is still valid. jpse...@aol.com did not violate the
> Terms of Service with the post you referred to.
>
> --
> Adam Bailey

Only because a member of the "Community Action Team" (cough) hasn't used
his or her "discretion" to rule the post "inappropriate" and TOS him.

And now that CAT members have to pay for being "volunteers," they're
probably real ornery about now and ready to jump all over jpcsearch.

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Adam Bailey

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Gary Kirchherr wrote:

> In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.961114...@xochi.tezcat.com>,
> Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Jason wrote:
> >
> > > jpcs...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >AOL CANNOT RAISE BILLS TO 19.95
> > > >AUTOMATICALLY UNDER THE LAWS OF MOST STATES.
> > >
> > > Uh oh... aol.com, eh?
> > >
> > > The living document is gonna get you for making posts about AOL's
> > > pricing, man... RUN!
> > >
> > > It's not U.S. law on AOL... it's the Community Action Team system...
> > > Sorry... I'd suspect someone'll have you TOS'ed and killed by the time
> > > you'll get to read this post...
> >
> > The screen name is still valid. jpse...@aol.com did not violate the
> > Terms of Service with the post you referred to.
> >
>

> Only because a member of the "Community Action Team" (cough) hasn't used
> his or her "discretion" to rule the post "inappropriate" and TOS him.

There's nothing inappropriate about his post. I don't know how it stands
on legal standards, but there's nothing TOSsable.

> And now that CAT members have to pay for being "volunteers," they're
> probably real ornery about now and ready to jump all over jpcsearch.

TOTALLY INCORRECT. CAT staff are paid employees. Volunteers are NEVER
given the power to action an account. Volunteers can report violations,
but have no enforcement power. That's why we're volunteers.

Jason

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Nov 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/15/96
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Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> wrote:

>The screen name is still valid. jpse...@aol.com did not violate the
>Terms of Service with the post you referred to.

Whew... Good thing, Adam... I, for one, am relieved.

Long live free speech... errr... at least, kinda semi-free speech on
AOL!

Jason (jko...@juno.com)


Mimi Kahn

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Nov 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/17/96
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On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:54:48 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com>
wrote:

>TOTALLY INCORRECT. CAT staff are paid employees. Volunteers are NEVER
>given the power to action an account. Volunteers can report violations,
>but have no enforcement power. That's why we're volunteers.

That's why you're volunteers -- to report violations? Ah, what noble
purpose! My hat would be off to you if I had a hat.


Mimi

Charter Member, Troll Patrol,
Too Much Noise and Not Enough Signal Division


Adam Bailey

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Nov 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/17/96
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On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Mimi Kahn wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:54:48 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com>
> wrote:
>
> >TOTALLY INCORRECT. CAT staff are paid employees. Volunteers are NEVER
> >given the power to action an account. Volunteers can report violations,
> >but have no enforcement power. That's why we're volunteers.
>
> That's why you're volunteers -- to report violations? Ah, what noble
> purpose! My hat would be off to you if I had a hat.

Relax, Mimi.

Read my sentence the way it was constructed, and not the way you wanted
to construe it.

"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're volunteers."

If you REALLY read my sentence as "Volunteers can report violations ...
that's why they're volunteers," then you really need to get some help.


--
Adam Bailey

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Mimi Kahn

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Nov 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/17/96
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On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:39:37 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Mimi Kahn wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:54:48 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >TOTALLY INCORRECT. CAT staff are paid employees. Volunteers are NEVER
>> >given the power to action an account. Volunteers can report violations,
>> >but have no enforcement power. That's why we're volunteers.
>>
>> That's why you're volunteers -- to report violations? Ah, what noble
>> purpose! My hat would be off to you if I had a hat.
>
>Relax, Mimi.
>
>Read my sentence the way it was constructed, and not the way you wanted
>to construe it.
>
>"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're volunteers."
>
>If you REALLY read my sentence as "Volunteers can report violations ...
>that's why they're volunteers," then you really need to get some help.

Adam, sweetheart, I read your sentence as you wrote it. Maybe you
need to take some classes in constructing simple English prose. I'm
sure Tricia would help you.

kel...@nospamkelani.com

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Nov 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/18/96
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On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:39:37 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> thrilled
alt.aol-sucks with the following:

>Read my sentence the way it was constructed, and not the way you wanted
>to construe it.

>"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're volunteers."

He's right. Volunteers are AOL's high-class term for what we called
'tattle-tales' in Kindergarten.

Kelani


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DAwn, (hv)

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Nov 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/18/96
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In article <32919edf....@library.airnews.net>, on Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:57:40
GMT, kel...@NOSPAMkelani.com (kel...@NOSPAMkelani.com) wrote-->

>
>On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:39:37 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> thrilled
>alt.aol-sucks with the following:
>
>>Read my sentence the way it was constructed, and not the way you wanted
>>to construe it.
>
>>"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're volunteers."
>
>He's right. Volunteers are AOL's high-class term for what we called
>'tattle-tales' in Kindergarten.
> Kelani


DAwn Replies----->>>


Ever notice that most AOL volunteers have an ethic set
that smells something like wine gone to vinegar? Like...
"I TOSsed more folks out of the chat pits than you did
today, so I'm a bigger Kissy-Assy... right Mee?"

The Wolunteers (sp?) all met in downtown Baltimore a few
months ago, and I was tempted to visit them, just to
see what these folks looked like in Reality.

After the Baltimore Sun did a feature on the group complete
with photo, I think I was glad I didn't.

What a zoo.


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Claude D. Bilbo

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Nov 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/18/96
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In <Pine.SUN.3.91.961117...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>, Adam
Bailey wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Mimi Kahn wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:54:48 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com>
>> wrote:
>> >TOTALLY INCORRECT. CAT staff are paid employees. Volunteers are NEVER
>> >given the power to action an account. Volunteers can report violations,
>> >but have no enforcement power. That's why we're volunteers.
>>
>> That's why you're volunteers -- to report violations? Ah, what noble
>> purpose! My hat would be off to you if I had a hat.
>
>Relax, Mimi.
>

>Read my sentence the way it was constructed, and not the way you wanted
>to construe it.
>
>"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're volunteers."
>

>If you REALLY read my sentence as "Volunteers can report violations ...
>that's why they're volunteers," then you really need to get some help.

Re-read your statement, Adam.

The way you write it says that you are volunteers because you
can report TOS violations without having accountability. Which
is worse than what you think Mimi interpreted.


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Adam Bailey

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Nov 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/18/96
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On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Claude D. Bilbo wrote:

> In <Pine.SUN.3.91.961117...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>, Adam
> Bailey wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Mimi Kahn wrote:
> >> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:54:48 -0600, Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >TOTALLY INCORRECT. CAT staff are paid employees. Volunteers are NEVER
> >> >given the power to action an account. Volunteers can report violations,
> >> >but have no enforcement power. That's why we're volunteers.
> >>
> >> That's why you're volunteers -- to report violations? Ah, what noble
> >> purpose! My hat would be off to you if I had a hat.
> >
> >Relax, Mimi.
> >
> >Read my sentence the way it was constructed, and not the way you wanted
> >to construe it.
> >
> >"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're volunteers."
> >
> >If you REALLY read my sentence as "Volunteers can report violations ...
> >that's why they're volunteers," then you really need to get some help.
>
> Re-read your statement, Adam.
>
> The way you write it says that you are volunteers because you
> can report TOS violations without having accountability. Which
> is worse than what you think Mimi interpreted.

It's bad enough that I already try to re-read all my posts before sending
them, just to see if there's anything that could be perverted into
something else. Apparently, I'm not doing a very good job.

Feel free to continue to twist my words around, folks, I don't care. I've
got better things to do than be paranoid about what new conspiracy theory
is going to be created by my words from day to day.

Adam Bailey

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Nov 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/18/96
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On 19 Nov 1996, bill wrote:

>
> Adam, Mimi, you other smaht-arses, please shut-up, you buncha whinin'
> aol'rs. You must have something better to do, dontcha think?
>
> Get a fuggin' life.

Wow, you really told me.

just me

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Nov 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/19/96
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Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> wrote in article
<Pine.SUN.3.91.961118...@xochi.tezcat.com>...

> Feel free to continue to twist my words around, folks, I don't care. I've

> got better things to do than be paranoid about what new conspiracy theory
> is going to be created by my words from day to day.
>
> --
> Adam Bailey

Thanks Adam, we will! Glad to see we now have *permission!* ....We really
*don't* hang on your every word though...we just find you so damn amusing!

-- G.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:>
"To start press any key." "WHERE'S 'ANYKEY'???"


bill

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Nov 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/19/96
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Adam, Mimi, you other smaht-arses, please shut-up, you buncha whinin'
aol'rs. You must have something better to do, dontcha think?

Get a fuggin' life.

Love, Bill
In article <01bbd5ad$6a3160a0$44d8f9cc@default>, no...@nowhere.com
says...

Jani Pearce

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Nov 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/19/96
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.961117...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>,
Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> wrote:
<snip>

>"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're
>volunteers."
<snip>

Hmmm, "Wolunteers [...] they're volunteers". And he complains about
Mimi's reading skills...

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Claude D. Bilbo

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Nov 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/19/96
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In <Pine.SUN.3.91.961118...@xochi.tezcat.com>, Adam Bailey
wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Claude D. Bilbo wrote:
<S>

>> Re-read your statement, Adam.
>>
>> The way you write it says that you are volunteers because you
>> can report TOS violations without having accountability. Which
>> is worse than what you think Mimi interpreted.
>
>It's bad enough that I already try to re-read all my posts before sending
>them, just to see if there's anything that could be perverted into
>something else. Apparently, I'm not doing a very good job.
>

>Feel free to continue to twist my words around, folks, I don't care. I've
>got better things to do than be paranoid about what new conspiracy theory
>is going to be created by my words from day to day.

That's OK Adam. It's not like we're gonna hold ya to anything ya say.

Mimi Kahn

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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On Tue, 19 Nov 96 04:30:05 GMT, so...@no.spam.com (Jani Pearce) wrote:

>In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.961117...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>,
> Adam Bailey <ad...@tezcat.com> wrote:
><snip>
>>"Wolunteers ... have no enforcement power, that's why they're
>>volunteers."
><snip>
>
>Hmmm, "Wolunteers [...] they're volunteers". And he complains about
>Mimi's reading skills...

Adam frequently gives me the feeling that there's some village
somewhere that's missing its idiot.

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