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The alt.fan.dune FAQ Part 1/4

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1. Document information

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1.1 Table of Contents

PART 1

1. Document information
1.1 Table of Contents
1.2 Recent changes
1.3 What is the purpose of this document?
1.4 Where can I get this document?
1.5 Who wrote this document?

2. Questions about alt.fan.dune
2.1 What is alt.fan.dune?
2.2 What is appropriate subject material for alt.fan.dune?
2.3 What is suggested netiquette for alt.fan.dune?
2.4 What special terminology is used on alt.fan.dune?

3. Questions about the Dune franchise
3.1 What is Dune?
3.2 Where can I find out more about Dune?

4. Questions about the Dune story
4.1 Which Dune adaptations are officially part of the story?
4.2 Is _The Dune Encyclopedia_ canon?
4.3 What inconsistencies and errrors are there in the Dune books?
4.4 What are the origins of House Atreides?
4.5 Who are Marty and Daniel at the end of _Chapterhouse: Dune_?
4.6 Who is Scytale?
4.7 Why isn't Leto II called Leto III?
4.8 What is House Ordos?
4.9 What is the Litany Against Fear?
4.10 What is the Mentat Mantra?

PART 2

5. Questions about written materials on Dune
5.1 What books are in the _Dune_ series?
5.2 Are more _Dune_ stories being written?
5.3 What other books about Dune have been published?
5.4 What other books has Frank Herbert written?
5.5 Have the books in the _Dune_ series been serialised?
5.6 Have the books in the _Dune_ series been translated?
5.7 Are there any differences between _Dune_ series editions?
5.8 Are there any comics and illustrated books about Dune?
5.9 Can I get a signed copy of _The Dune Encyclopedia_?

PART 3

6. Questions about the films
6.1 What is the movie _Dune_?
6.2 Is there more than one version of the movie?
6.3 How do I get each version of the movie?
6.4 What merchandise was produced in connection with the movie?
6.5 Has there been other attempts to film _Dune_?
6.6 What is the _Dune_ TV series?

7. Questions about sound recordings relating to Dune
7.1 Are there any Dune-related music albums?
7.2 Has Dune inspired other music?
7.3 Are there any spoken word recordings of Dune works?

PART 4

8. Questions about the games
8.1 What MU*s are there with a Dune theme?
8.2 How do I make these MU*s look right on my screen?
8.3 Are there any computer and video games about Dune?
8.4 Are there any board games about Dune?
8.5 Are there any collectible card games (CCGs/TCGs) about Dune?
8.6 Are there any role-playing games (RPGs) about Dune?
8.7 Are there any fan-created games about Dune?

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1.2 Recent changes


01/12/06: Added Section 5.6.15 and 7.2.1
Updated Section 1.4, 4.1, 4.3, 5.2, 5.3, 5.6, 6.3, 6.6, 7.1,
7.2 and 8.3
01/06/24: Updated Section 3.2, 8.6
01/06/20: Added Section 8.3.6, 7.1.2, 7.1.4
Updated Section 4.4, 5.4, 5.5.5, 5.6.1, 7.2, 8.3, 8.6, 8.7
01/03/10: Updated Section 5.3.2, 5.6.5 and 7.2
00/11/29: Updated Section 5.3.1, 5.3.2, 6.3, 6.6, 7.1.3 and 7.2
00/10/26: Added entries BBHKA, D:HH and TFO's to Section 2.4.1
Updated Section 5.2.2, 5.3.1, 5.7.1, 5.7.4, 7.2, 8.5, 8.6
Added Section 5.6.9, 8.3.4, 8.3.5
00/07/12: Updated Section 4.4
00/06/11: Added Section 4.7
00/04/04: Updated Section 5.3.1, 5.6, 5.7.2, 5.7.3, 8.6 and 8.7.
Added Section 5.7.4

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1.3 What is the purpose of this document?

This is the alt.fan.dune Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) file. Its
purpose is to introduce new members to the alt.fan.dune newsgroup, and
to answer common questions about _Dune_ and alt.fan.dune.

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1.4 Where can I get this document?

The FAQ is posted monthly to alt.fan.dune, alt.answers and news.answers.
It can also be obtained in these ways:

By anonymous FTP:
<ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/alt.fan.dune/>
<ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/sf/dune-faq>
<ftp://ftp.faqs.org/faqs/sf/dune-faq>

By e-mail:
mail-...@rtfm.mit.edu
with a body of "send pub/faqs/sf/dune-faq/part#"
(where # is from 1 to 4)

From the World Wide Web:
<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sf/dune-faq/>
<http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gh248/dunefaq/>

Inquiries/suggestions/corrections can be mailed to:
dun...@email.com

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1.5 Who wrote this document?

Alan Schwartz created this FAQ, as well as the alt.fan.dune newsgroup.
Christian Gilmore later took over responsibility for the FAQ. The
current maintainer of the FAQ is me, Gunnar Harboe <dun...@email.com>.
Where entire passages have been contributed by other persons, the
relevant text is attributed to them.

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2. Questions about alt.fan.dune

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2.1 What is alt.fan.dune?

alt.fan.dune is a newsgroup for postings related to Frank Herbert's
_Dune_ series or any of its adaptations, including but not limited to
the movie _Dune_ and all Dune games. The group will provide a forum for
fans of Herbert's work to communicate.

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2.2 What is appropriate subject material for alt.fan.dune?

Discussion of anything related to Herbert's _Dune_ series, or any of its
adaptations, is appropriate. Discussion of Frank Herbert or any of his
other work is permissible. Discussions about general MU* issues should
be directed to the rec.games.mud.* hierarchy, most likely
rec.games.mud.tiny. Discussions about strategy issues for the Westwood
games should when possible be directed to a general strategy games or
Westwood game newsgroup, possibly alt.games.dune-ii.virgin-games.

Binaries are not allowed in this newsgroup. Relevant binaries should be
posted to a proper alt.binaries newsgroup and a pointer to these
binaries should be posted to alt.fan.dune.

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2.3 What is suggested netiquette for alt.fan.dune?

HTML-format posts are discouraged on alt.fan.dune. Please use standard
text format for the convenience of all newsreaders.

If discussing with a person who apparently hasn't read past a certain
point in the series, please use <SPOILER> warnings when referring to
information given past that point. The same applies for plot points with
obvious suspense value, e.g. "Is Paul the Preacher?"

In your own best interest, try to keep posts clear and concise. Pay some
attention to spelling. Attempt to stay on-topic. Always be courteous and
polite. Never flame (deliberately offend), and don't respond to flames.
A poster who oversteps the bounds of tolerance may find him- or herself
"shunned" by the bulk of the newsgroup, which means that no posts by
that poster will be answered.

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2.4 What special terminology is used on alt.fan.dune?

Several shorthand abbreviations and acronyms are commonly used on
alt.fan.dune. Knowing these will make it very much easier to understand
posts to the newsgroup.

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2.4.1 alt.fan.dune local terms

These terms are unique to alt.fan.dune. A * after an entry indicates
that the name in question is a real person, not a character from the
_Dune_ series.

afd: alt.fan.dune
AG: After Guild
AM: Ancestral (sometimes called Genetic) Memory
BG: Bene Gesserit (sometimes: Before Guild)
BBHKA: Before Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson
BH: Brian Herbert*/Baron Harkonnen
BJ: Butlerian Jihad
BT: Bene Tleilax
CD/C:D/ChD/Ch:D: _Chapterhouse Dune_
CET: Commission of Ecumenic Translators
(Dune) Chronicles: FH's six Dune novels
CoD: _Children of Dune_
D: _Dune_
D:HA: _Dune: House Atreides_
D:HH: _Dune: House Harkonnen_
D2K: Dune 2000
DDL: Dino De Laurentiis (Corp.)*
DC: Dune Chronicles
DE: Dune Encyclopedia
DI: Duncan Idaho
DL: David Lynch*
DM: _Dune Messiah_
Dune buggy: A fan of Dune
Duniverse: The fictional universe of the _Dune_ series
EoMF: Enemies of Many Faces (see also OoMF)
FD: Face Dancers (see also NFD, RNFD)
FH: Frank Herbert*
GE: God Emperor (Leto II)
GEoD: _God Emperor of Dune_
GHM: Gaius Helen Mohiam / Great Honoured Matre
GJ: Gom Jabbar
GN: Guild Navigator
GP: Golden Path
H: Harkonnen(s)
HA: House Atreides / _Dune: House Atreides_
HM: Honoured Matre(s)
HoD: _Heretics of Dune_
JS: John Schoenherr*
KH: Kwisatz Haderach
KJA: Kevin J. Anderson*
LttLH: _Listening to the Left Hand_
M&D: Marty and Daniel
MoS: Mark of Siona
MS: Mother Superior
NDR: No Dune References
NFD: "New" Face Dancers (see also FD, RNFD)
OC(B): Orange Catholic (Bible)
OE: Old Empire
OM: Other Memory
OoMF: Ones of Many Faces (see also EoMF)
RM: Reverend Mother (RMGHM: Rev. Mother GHM)
RNFD: (humorous) "Really New" Face Dancers (Marty and Daniel)
SA: Spice Agony
SG: Spacing Guild
shun: Refuse to reply to any posts made by a certain poster
SODR: Sort of Dune related
SS: Salusa Secundus
SY: Standard Year
TFM: (humorous) _The Fandom Menace_ (_Dune: House Atreides_)
TFO's: The First Ones* (alt.fan.dune Old-timers)
TM: Tleilaxu Masters
TP: Telepathy
UD: Ultimate Duncan (Duncan of HoD/Ch:D)
WEM: Dr. Willis E. McNelly* (in DE: Walter E. Meyers*)
WoL: Water of Life

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2.4.2 General Internet terms

These terms are in common use all over Usenet and Internet. A short list
of some of the most frequently used is provided here as a convenience to
newcomers to the medium.

AFAIK: As far as I know
BTW: By the way
FAQ: Frequently asked question(s) (file)
flame: Inflammatory message
IIRC: If I recall correctly
IM(H)O: In my (humble) opinion
IOW: In other words
LOL: Laughing out loud
newbie: Newcomer to the newsgroup
ng: Newsgroup
OT: Off-topic / Old-timer
OTOH: On the other hand
ROTFLOL: Rolling on the floor, laughing out loud
spam: Junk message. Often advertisement.
troll: Person who tries to sabotage newsgroup by provoking members

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3. Questions about the Dune franchise

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3.1 What is Dune?

_Dune_ is the first of a series of science fiction books by Frank
Herbert. The adaptations of _Dune_ include a full motion picture, a
television miniseries and several major computer games.

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3.2 Where can I find out more about Dune?

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3.2.1 In this FAQ

For all official published _Dune_ stories: 5.1-5.3
For a list of books with analyses of _Dune_: 5.3

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3.2.2 World Wide Web URLs

The task of keeping an updated and complete list of all Dune-related web
sites became insurmountable long ago. This, therefore, is only meant as
a starting point for further discovery. If you know of a website you
feel should be on this list, please email <dun...@email.com>.

The Frank Herbert Partnership official Dune site
<http://www.dunenovels.com/>

General and book-related:
Museum Arrakeen
<http://www.fremen.org/museum/>
The World of Dune
<http://www.duneworld.org/>
Usul's Homepage
<http://www.usul.net/>
Dune Index
<http://www.arrakis.co.uk/>
The Universe of Frank Herbert
<http://universe.pa-roots.com/>

Film-related:
Dune - Behind the Scenes
<http://www.flg21.com/dune/>
The Arrakis File
<http://members.aol.com/hiphats/arrakis0.html>

Game-related:
FED2k
<http://www.dune2k.com/>
Dune 1: Immersive Game
<http://www.terravista.pt/Nazare/4347/dune.html>

Webrings:
The Dune Webring
<http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=ibad>
Dune Chapterhouse Ring
<http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=chapterhouse>
Arrakis, The Dune RPG Webring
<http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=fishspeakers>

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3.2.3 Online games sites

Dune III MUSH: dune3.fremen.org 4201
Regent of Dune MUX: regent.nakednuns.com 4201
DuneMUD: dune.servint.com 8888

For more information on the above games, see also:
<http://www.fremen.org/muds/>

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4. Questions about the Dune story

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4.1 Which Dune adaptations are officially part of the story?

Among most Dune fans, at least on alt.fan.dune, only the Dune stories
written by Frank Herbert are considered "canon," i.e. official parts of
the story. These are, exclusively, the six Dune novels of the Chronicles
and the short story "The Road to Dune" in _Eye_.

Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson claim to "continue to establish
canon in the Dune universe" with their prequels. However, many fans have
noted the numerous inconsistencies and implausibilities in their books
(see Section 4.3) and have become convinced that the authors don't have
any unique knowledge or understanding of Frank Herbert's intentions. The
prequels then become little more than "corporate fan-fiction".

The motion picture and television miniseries are generally accepted (if
not respected) as artistic interpretations of _Dune_. Although Frank
Herbert worked as a consultant on the film, most agree that it does not
reflect his work, thoughts or opinions beyond being based on his
original novel.

Information from the computer games, RPG documentation and so on is
typically completely disregarded as more corporate fan-fiction. The same
goes for actual fan-fiction, of course.

For an explanation of the status of _The Dune Encyclopedia_, see the
next section.

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4.2 Is _The Dune Encyclopedia_ canon?

_The Dune Encyclopedia_ was published in 1984, between _God Emperor of
Dune_ and _Heretics of Dune_, as a companion piece to the Dune
Chronicles. It was presented as the interpretation of the information
found in the Rakis hoard (first mentioned in _God Emperor of Dune_) by
fictional historians two thousand years after the action of _God Emperor
of Dune_ (again, some time before the action of _Heretics of Dune_).
Because of this pretext, many entries in the book were intentionally
made inconsistent with the information given in the Chronicles, to
represent misinterpretation of the data by historians and manipulation
of the records by Leto II.

_The Dune Encyclopedia_ was compiled and partially written by Dr. Willis
E. McNelly, a long-time friend and associate of Frank Herbert's. The
other articles were written by various of Dr. McNelly's colleagues and
acquaintances. No part of the book, except the prologue, was written by
Frank Herbert. However, Frank Herbert read and approved every entry
before inclusion in the book. The book was also created on Frank
Herbert's initiative. As stated in his prologue, he thoroughly approved
of it.

Still, the fact remains that the book does not reflect Frank Herbert's
ideas on Dune. No instance of him adopting a _Dune Encyclopedia_
invention has been demonstrated, and on some points (the axlotl vats,
the Harkonnen badge) later novels in the Chronicles contradict it beyond
the power of the book's fictional origins to explain away.

Where _The Dune Encyclopedia_ directly conflicts with the Dune
Chronicles, whether attributable to the historians who supposedly wrote
it or not, it is politely ignored. Where it fills in the holes of Frank
Herbert's novels, though, attitudes vary. Some refuse to consider it
altogether, while others tend to apply as much information from it as
possible without contradiction.

As Dr. McNelly himself replied: "Of course the DE is not canon, and of
course it IS canon."

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4.3 What inconsistencies and errors are there in the Dune books??

The Dune books have a number of apparent errors, inconsistencies and
contradictions with each other and sometimes themselves. This is true of
Frank Herbert's original Chronicles, but even more of the Brian Herbert
and Kevin J. Anderson-penned prequels.

In the former case, the reason usually given is that Frank Herbert tried
to make the story of each volume as tight as possible, and didn't shrink
from disregarding things stated in previous novels to achieve it.
Sometimes, though, simple error seems to be the reason.

Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson cannot very well disregard
continuity in this fashion, so we must assume all discrepancies are
mistakes.

This is only a partial list. Note that some of these "errors" may have
consistent (but implausible) explanations.

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4.3.1 _Dune: House Atreides_

- The planet Harmonthep is mentioned several times in _House Atreides_.
However, in _Dune_ we are told that Harmonthep is "supposed to have been
a no longer existent satellite of Delta Pavonis", indicating it was
destroyed long ago.

- The construction of the Harkonnen no-room we see in _Heretics of Dune_
happens here. However, _Heretics of Dune_ firmly establishes that "the
whole no-globe complex, some two hundred meters in diameter, was a
fossil preserved intact from the time of the Tyrant."

- The Kwisatz Haderach breeding program is said to go back 10,000 years.
According to _Dune_ it has gone on for 90 generations. That would work
out to 111 years per generation (the traditional figure is 20).

- In _House Atreides_, Piter de Vries is addicted to sapho juice. This
is not mentioned at all in _Dune_, but much is, on the other hand, made
of his addiction to spice (which _House Atreides_ doesn't mention).

- It appears to be general knowledge that the Tleilaxu are religious
fanatics. So how come it is such a major revelation for the Bene
Gesserit in _Heretics of Dune_ and is not known to any character in the
Chronicles before that?

- Elacca wood is described as "wood from Elacca". According to Dune,
elacca wood (note lack of capitalization) comes from Ecaz. (After this
was pointed out, the authors posted an "explanation" on their website.)

- In this book, Crown Prince Shaddam and Count Fenring take great care
to make sure no one discovers that Emperor Elrood has been poisoned. The
Almanak en-Ashraf in _Dune_ makes it clear that it was generally known
that Elrood "succumbed to chaumurky".

- House Vernius of Ix is a major player in all the prequels. However,
_Dune Messiah_ refers to the Ixian Confederacy, indicating no noble
House ruled the planet.

- According to _House Atreides_, cyborgs do not violate the tenents of
the Butlerian Jihad. According to _Chapterhouse: Dune_, they do:

"Cyborgs?" [...] Didn't Idaho know the residue of revulsion left
by the Butlerian Jihad even among the Bene Gesserit?

Cyborg was one of those potpourri words, too. Where did mechanical
additions to human flesh become dominant? When was the Cyborg no
longer human? [...] The Butlerian Jihad had left its indelible
mark on humans. Fought and won . . . for then. And here was
another battle in that long-ago conflict.

- "Fixing" a crysknife is explained as "keyed to the body of the owner
so it would dissolve upon his death". In <i>Dune</i> it's the other way
around: "Fixed knives are treated for storage."

- The Battle of Corrin is said to be the final battle of the Butlerian
Jihad, fought by the "Bridge of Hrethgir". According to _Dune_ it was a
space battle that took place twenty years after the Butlerian Jihad was
over.

- _House Atreides_ makes Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam out to be
Jessica's mother. We know definitely that Frank Herbert did not intend
this, as it was the only entry in _The Dune Encyclopedia_ he objected
to. (Willis McNelly convinced him to let it be included as a joke.)

- _House Atreides_: "He fired a near-invisible bolt of white-orange fire
from the lasgun..."
_Dune_: "Paul pointed to the violence above the distant cliff--the
jetflares, the purple beams of lasguns lacing the desert."
(The authors have corrected their error by _House Harkonnen_.)

- Shaddam is crowned by a priest of Dur. However, Dur was a name given
to Leto II in the Scattering, several thousand years later. A deity (?)
Abu d' Dhur, "Father of the Indefinite Roads of Time", is mentioned in
_Dune Messiah_.

- One of the central plot points in _House Atreides_ is the death of
Leto's father, Duke Paulus. This happens before Jessica is born.
However, in _Dune_, Jessica displays what can only be first-hand
experience of the Old Duke.

- We are told in _House Atreides_ that the Baron Harkonnen is so fat
because he was infected with a disease. The Chronicles pretty much state
that it was due to a hereditary disposition and overeating:

GEoD [of the Baron]: "He was a fat, monstrous..."
"He was a seeker after sensations," Moneo said. "The fat was a
side-effect, then perhaps something to experience for itself
because it offended people and he enjoyed offending."

_Dune_ [of Rabban]: "There was yet some rigidity in his fat, but
it was obvious to the eye that he'd come one day to the portable
suspensors for carrying his excess weight."

_Dune_ [of Feyd]: "Here's one who won't let himself go to fat."

Note also that when Alia is possessed by the Baron in _Children of
Dune_, she starts to put on weight.

- According to _God Emperor of Dune_, Duncan had a sister who was killed
by Harkonnens. She is nowhere to be seen in _House Atreides_.

- _God Emperor of Dune_ also states that the Atreides rescued Duncan
from Harkonnen bondage. The events in the prequel don't seem to match
this description very well.

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4.3.2 _Dune: House Harkonnen_

- Jessica is made Duke Leto's concubine and Dr. Yueh joins the Atreides
before Paul's death. However, more than fifteen years later, in _Dune_,
Jessica says that she has only known Yueh for six years.

- Gurney and Liet-Kynes meet and become good friends in _House
Harkonnen_. Yet when they meet again in _Dune_ they don't recognize each
other at all.

- Kynes tells a smuggler "I am Liet-Kynes, son of Pardot Kynes". The
authors also claim that Liet was his sietch name. In that case it should
be kept secret from outsiders.

- In _Dune_, Gurney calls Duke Leto "the man who rescued me from a
Harkonnen slave pit, gave me freedom, life, and honor". However, in
_House Harkonnen_ he escapes the Harkonnens on his own.

- In _House Harkonnen_, Dr. Yueh is described as a greedy man. Contrast
this quote from _Dune_: "Does greed touch even you, Wellington?"

- _House Harkonnen_ has Ginaz ruled by an academy of swordmasters.
_Dune_ clearly refers to the House of Ginaz.

- According to _House Harkonnen_, the first time Duncan kills someone is
when he stabs Trin Kronos (a Moritani) in the back with his sword to
save his friend Resser. This takes place on planet Ginaz.

_Dune_ [Duncan]: "My sword was firs' blooded on Grumman! Killed a
Harkon . . . Harkon . . . killed 'im f'r th' Duke."

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4.3.3 _Dune: House Corrino_

- In _House Corrino_, Paul is born on Kaitan. From the opening paragraph
of _Dune_: "Do not be deceived by the fact that he was born on Caladan
and lived his first fifteen years there."

- (More to be added.)

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4.3.4 _Dune_

- The first chapter heading states that Paul was born in the 57th year
of the Padishah Emperor, Shaddam IV. By the dates given in the Almanak
en-Ashraf (Appendix IV), this works out to 10,191, the year the story
starts with a fifteen year-old Paul. The problem can apparently be
solved by subtracting fifteen years from the dates of birth of Shaddam
IV and Count Hasimir Fenring, as done in _Dune: House Atreides_.

- According to the first chapter heading in the section titled "The
Prophet":

"The measure of Count Fenring's friendship may be seen first in a
positive thing: he allayed the Landsraad's suspicions after the
Arrakis Affair. It cost more than a billion solaris in spice
bribes, so my mother said..."

This implies Irulan's mother Anirul was alive at the time of the Arrakis
Affair (10,191) while Appendix IV gives her year of death as 10,176.

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4.3.5 _Dune Messiah_

- In _Dune Messiah_, Scytale meets with a former Fedaykin, Farok:

Scytale returned his gaze to the old man, noted the empty sleeve
dangling from the left shoulder [...]

"Thrice blessed," Farok said, folding his hands into his lap in
the ritual clasp. They were old, heavily veined hands. [...] Farok
held up his hands, examined the palms.

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4.3.6 _Children of Dune_

- Alia appears to have only Other Memory in _Dune_ and _Dune Messiah_,
then gains Ancestral Memory on the male side (!) in _Children of Dune_.
(A possible explanation is that the massive spice overdose she subjected
herself to in _Dune Messiah_ unlocked her Ancestral Memory, but no
support for this view is ever given in the novels.)

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4.3.7 _God Emperor of Dune_

- Duncan's memories of Leto as an infant in _God Emperor of Dune_ are
inconsistent with him being a ghola of either the original Duncan or the
Hayt incarnation:

"I died defending Paul and his mother in a cave-sietch beneath the
sands of Dune."

[Duncan to Leto]: "Is it true what your Fish Speakers say -- you
have . . . memories of. . ."

Idaho remembered the strange child-twins, really: Leto and
Ghanima, Paul's children, the children of Chani, who had died
delivering them.

"What was he like in your day, the man Leto?"
"Which one?"
"Yes, I forget there were two -- the grandfather and our Leto. I
mean our Leto, of course."
"He was just a child, that's all I know."

If he was a ghola of Hayt, he should be a mentat, since the Duncan in
_Heretics of Dune_ becomes a mentat when his memories are awakened.

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4.3.8 _Heretics of Dune_

- From _Heretics of Dune_: "The cell studies said he was a mixture of
many Idaho gholas -- some descendant of Siona." Obviously, no Duncan
ghola could have been a descendant of Siona.

- Frank Herbert seems unaware that the Kelvin scale does not have
negative temperatures: "His dart throwers had been sealed and "washed"
against snoopers, then maintained at minus 340[degrees] Kelvin in a
radiation bath for five SY to make them proof against snoopers."

- If not a direct discrepancy, Scytale's return as a Tleilaxu Master in
_Heretics of Dune_ is seen as odd by many. How and why the Tleilaxu
resurrected him, moreover changing him from a Face Dancer to a Master,
remains unexplained. That it is the same person is apparently
established by a comment that the latter incarnation had "met Muad'Dib".
The hidden nature of Tleilaxu society is difficult to reconcile with
Scytale's thoughts in _Dune Messiah_.

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4.3.9 _Chapterhouse: Dune_

- Rebecca's process of becoming a Reverend Mother in _Chapterhouse:
Dune_ seems very peculiar, as her Ancestral Memory apparently hasn't
been awakened by the Agony, but only in Sharing with Lucilla.

- By the sequence of Sharing at the end of _Chapterhouse: Dune_
(Sheeana-Odrade-Murbella), Murbella should have been aware of Sheeana's
and Duncan's plan to escape in the no-ship. (This can possibly be
explained by postulating that Murbella was in the process of absorbing
and assimilating those memories.)

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4.4 What are the origins of House Atreides?

(BEGIN _CHILDREN OF DUNE_ SPOILER) In _Children of Dune_, just before
Alia becomes overwhelmed by the Baron, and the voices yell at her, one
is described in particular: "I, Agamemnon, your ancestor, demand
audience!" (END _CHILDREN OF DUNE_ SPOILER). This confirms the suspicion
that the Atreides of Caladan are descendants of the Ancient Greek House
Atreides of Mycenae. The founder of House Atreides is Atreus (Atreides
in Greek means "son/descendant of Atreus") and his son, Agamemnon
Atreides, led the Greeks in the Trojan War, whose tale is told in
Homer's _Iliad_. The _Iliad_ is a great epic poem (modern printings take
up large books), which was passed down through oral tradition. It was
written about half a century after the Trojan war, and is more fantasy
than history, but the archaeological excavations of Heinrich Schliemann
both in the now-Turkish hill of Hisarlik and what he found to be Mycenae
have proved that the Trojan War did take place, and that the fabled
"Golden Mycenae" was indeed a historical city state, which was at that
time the major superpower in Greece.

Agamemnon is also a historical figure, and his tomb still exists in the
archaeological site of Mycenae in Pelloponese in Greece. Mycenae, a
complete ancient city-state excavated and revealed, is a popular tourist
attraction and open to the public, as it was the center of Greece at its
time (which was accordingly named the Mycenean Era). Dune fans visiting
the area should take the time to pay tribute to the place where it all
started, or at least pick up a book or tourist guide from the area. :)

Answer courtesy of Stephanos Piperoglou.
(Note: Some inaccuracies in the above account have been pointed out.
Pre-historic Greece, the Trojan War and Homer are the subject of much
archaeological research, and very little is known for certain. This is
only intended to be a brief description as it relates to Dune.)

It has been argued (with reference to _The Dune Encyclopedia_) that the
Agamemnon appearing before Alia is not necessarily the original
Agamemnon. However, in _God Emperor of Dune_, Leto II writes: "My
paternal Grandfather was Leto Atreides, descendant of the House of
Atreus and tracing his ancestry directly back to the Greek original."

Reference courtesy of Jim Ware.

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4.5 Who are Marty and Daniel at the end of _Chapterhouse: Dune_?

The explanations of who the mysterious Marty and Daniel (who appear
irregularly in _Chapterhouse: Dune_) may be are as many as there are
readers of the Chronicles. People seem to agree about some basic facts,
though:

- They were some kind of Face Dancers
- Like "NFDs" (see Subject 2.4.1), they were able to absorb memories and
personalities, not just appearances. However, they did not _become_
these people, like NFDs did
- In this manner, they had absorbed Reverend Mothers and
possibly Tleilaxu Masters
- For this or other reasons, they were now beyond Tleilaxu control
- They had vastly superior powers (their means of spying on Duncan),
either intrinsically or through technology

There are hints that they are enemies of the Honoured Matres from the
Scattering, part of the force that have driven them back to the Old
Empire, and in that case identical with the "Enemies of Many Faces" the
Honoured Matres fear. The technology they apparently transmit to Duncan
seems to support this. However, others have objected that their ability
to absorb memories indicates they are from the Old Empire, since that
ability was developed there (but with help from Scattering Tleilaxu?).
They also point out that "Enemies of Many Faces" could mean anything,
and that we have no basis for supposing that Marty and Daniel are not
unique.

Another interpretation, compatible with any of the above theories, is
that Marty and Daniel are Frank Herbert and his wife Beverly, saying
goodbye to readers and setting the characters free in a universe of
infinite possibilities. This idea was advanced in a French edition of
Dune, and is supported by the fact that Beverly died shortly before and
Frank shortly after _Chapterhouse: Dune_ was published, and of course
the touching dedication and afterword. However, it is apparently
disproved by the fact that FH planned and had begun working on another
Dune novel before he died, and that he did not know of his terminal
disease when he wrote what was to be the last volume in the Chronicles.

Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson claim to possess Frank Herbert's
outline of "Dune 7", and plan to write the novel sometime in the future,
finally explaining the mystery.

Further speculations on the nature of Marty and Daniel can be found at:
<http://jkenny.home.mindspring.com/MartyandDaniel.htm>

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4.6 Who is Scytale?

Scytale is a Tleilaxu Face Dancer, the principal of the conspirators in
_Dune Messiah_. At the end of that book, he is killed by a knife thrown
by Paul Muad'Dib.

Scytale is also a Tleilaxu Master appearing in _Heretics of Dune_ and
_Chapterhouse: Dune_. That this Scytale is the same one (or, rather a
ghola/clone of the one) from _Dune Messiah_ is indicated by Master
Waff's musings that Scytale had once met Muad'Dib.

The process that resurrected Scytale and turned him into a Master is
never explained. Also, the differences between the Bene Tleilax society
vaguely suggested in _Dune Messiah_ and the one seen in the last two
books are problematic. While a development obviously took place (to
incorporate the worship of Leto II, for instance), the Zensunni religion
seems always to have been a part of the Tleilaxu as seen in _Heretics of
Dune_ and _Chapterhouse: Dune_, yet is never hinted at in _Dune
Messiah_.

Many fancy theories have been devised to cover up this inconsistency,
but in the final analysis it seems to be what it appears: Frank Herbert
modifying a story point to fit his own purposes, creating a discrepancy.

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4.7 Why isn't Leto II called Leto III?

Paul and Chani have a son named Leto, who is killed by Sardaukar near
the end of _Dune_. In _Dune Messiah_, Chani gives birth to another boy
who is also given the name Leto. This son later becomes the Emperor Leto
II. Some people have wondered why he isn't called Leto III, since there
had been two Letos before him: Paul's father the Duke, and Paul's first
son.

However, this would not be correct according to orthodox royal numbering
scheme. This system was introduced to distinguish between rulers by the
same name, not to identify normal family members. Therefore, only those
who ascend the throne are assigned a number. For instance, the father of
Richard III of England was Richard, Duke of York. Since he was never
king, he is not given a number.

The exception to this rule is Louis XVII of France. Because of the
French Revolution and Napoleon's Empire, he was never crowned and died
as a child. However, when his uncle Louis XVIII took the throne, Louis
XVII was included in the count, as a gesture that the Bourbon kings
didn't recognise the republican and imperial governments.

Another important point is that each nation keeps their own count. King
Henry IV of England is a quite different person from King Henry IV of
France. James VI of Scotland became James I when he ascended the English
throne. The numbers are not tied to the family: French Louises have come
from all royal families.

Normally, only sovereign rulers are numbered in this fashion. Nobles are
traditionally designated roughly in this way: Leto Atreides, first Duke
of Arrakis. However, the title is not necessarily tied to the land, so
Leto could very well be Duke of something else entirely. However, it is
not at all clear that Frank Herbert is following the traditional pattern
here.

We see that according to the accepted system, "Emperor Leto II" says
nothing about the names of his ancestors, but indicates that there has
been an Emperor Leto I. Such an Emperor is indeed mentioned in _The Dune
Encyclopedia_. However, even if Herbert was applying only a
pseudo-authentic scheme, where Duke Leto is supposed to be counted,
there is no way Paul's first son could be included, since he never held
a title of any kind.

Finally, the following quote from _Heretics of Dune_ should be included
for the sake of completeness:

"She asks about God's family," Stiros said. "Why should she have to ask
about -"
"She tests us. Do we give them Their proper places? The Reverend Mother
Jessica to her son, Muad’Dib, to his son, Leto II - The Holy Triumvirate
of Heaven."
"Leto III," Stiros muttered. "What of the other Leto who died at
Sardaukar hands? What of him?"
"Careful, Stiros," Tuek intoned. "You know my great-grandfather
pronounced upon that question from this very bench. Our Divided God was
reincarnated with part of Him remaining in heaven to mediate the
Ascendancy. That part of Him became nameless then, as the True Essence
of God should always be!"

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4.8 What is House Ordos?

Ordos is the name of an area in China, the origin of the Turks. It may
be related to the word "horde."

Answer courtesy of MtLoweMan

House Ordos is the third side (House Atreides and House Harkonnen being
the first two) you can play as in the Westwood computer games Dune II
and Dune 2000. House Ordos does not appear anywhere in Frank Herbert's
_Dune_ novels. The name of the House appears in a list of Great Houses
under the entry "Great Houses" in _The Dune Encyclopedia_, an article
written by Walter E. Meyers. In that article, they are listed as having
7 votes in the Landsraad (Atreides and Corrino having 10 each, Harkonnen
having 5), and their coat of arms is given as "Or two bones white per
saltire, in dexter chief entwined with ivy vert." This translates to
"Two white bones crossed over a golden background, with the upper right
part entwined with green ivy." Heraldic right is left to those looking
at the shield. The Ordos coat of arms in the computer games, with a
snake and a book, is the coat of arms of House Wallach. No further
information about them is given anywhere. The details of their
background were made up for the computer games.

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4.9 What is the Litany Against Fear?

The Litany Against Fear exists in two versions; both recited by Paul at
different occasions in _Dune_.

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4.9.1 The Gom-Jabbar version

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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4.9.2 The Sandstorm version

Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past me I will turn to see fear's path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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4.10 What is the Mentat Mantra?

Mentat Piter de Vries (Brad Dourif) recites this litany in the movie
version of Dune, and Mentat Hayt de Vries (Robert Carin) repeats it in
Westwood's computer game Dune 2000. It does not appear anywhere in the
books, but is a movie construct from the mind of David Lynch.

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed,
the lips acquire stains.
The stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

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This continues the FAQ from Part 2

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1. Document information

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1.1 Table of Contents

(The full Table of Contents is available in part 1)

PART 3

6. Questions about the films
6.1 What is the movie _Dune_?
6.2 Is there more than one version of the movie?
6.3 How do I get each version of the movie?
6.4 What merchandise was produced in connection with the movie?
6.5 Has there been other attempts to film _Dune_?
6.6 What is the _Dune_ TV series?

7. Questions about sound recordings relating to Dune
7.1 Are there any Dune-related music albums?
7.2 Has Dune inspired other music?
7.3 Are there any spoken word recordings of Dune works?

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6. Questions about the films

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6.1 What is the movie _Dune_?

_Dune_ was made into a movie of the same title, and is available on
video. The movie was directed by David Lynch (of Twin Peaks and
Eraserhead fame), produced by Rafaella de Laurentiis, and starred: Kyle
MacLachlan (Paul Muad'Dib), Jurgen Prochnow (Leto), Sean Young (Chani),
Francesca Annis (Jessica), Dean Stockwell (Dr. Yueh), Virginia Madsen
(Irulan), Patrick Stewart (Gurney), Jose Ferrar (Shaddam IV), Sting
(Feyd-Rautha), Max von Sydow (Liet-Kynes), and Linda Hunt (Shadout
Mapes). The costumes were designed by Bob Ringwood.

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6.2 Is there more than one version of the movie?

Yes. There are actually 3 versions of the movie.

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6.2.1 Theatrical release

_Dune_ had its theatrical release in 1984. Its length is 2 hours and 17
minutes. It has also been shown on the Sci-Fi channel. This version is
also the standard video release. On the video release, approximately 20
minutes of footage near the end of the film has been photographically
flipped, so that Paul carries his ring on his left hand etc.

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6.2.2 Alan Smithee version

The version which is commonly shown on television contains some scenes
which were not in the movie. It is not on video cassette. It is 4 hours
long with commercials, roughly 3 hours without. This version contains
certain scenes that the director, David Lynch, did not want; such as a
scene of Gurney playing the baliset, and a voice-over introducing some
of the characters and societies. Lynch petitioned the Director's Guild
to have his name removed from the credits of this version. The generic
'Alan Smithee' appears in his place. Despite this, this version is often
erroneously referred to as the "director's cut".

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6.2.3 KTVU version

There is a third version that was cobbled together out of pieces of the
above two films by KTVU. It contains no new scenes; rather it is simply
a re- edit of the same material.

There is also a laserdisc letterboxed edition of the movie. It contains
versions 6.2.1 and 6.2.2 for a total of 320 minutes from beginning to
end of the disc. It contains no new scenes that are not in 6.2.1 and
6.2.2. The laserdisc is available only as a Japanese import. Each
version is subtitled in Japanese, and the theatrical release (version
6.2.1) is in a very nice widescreen format.

For more information about the movie and its variants, look at the
"Arrakis File" at:
<http://members.aol.com/Hiphats/arrakis.html>

For "behind the scenes" information and trivia on the movie, try "Dune -
Behind the Scenes" at:
<http://www.flg21.com/dune/>

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6.3 How do I get each version of the movie?

Universal/MCA has re-released the theatrical version of Dune on NTSC and
PAL VHS in both widescreen and Pan & Scan format. The widescreen PAL
video has been deleted.

The theatrical edition has also been released on laserdisc and DVD (R1
and R2). All these are in (non-anamorphic) widescreen, and of fairly
high technical standard. They feature no particularly exciting extras.

The Alan Smithee edition is available on R2 DVD, both in PAL and in a
two-disc Japanese NTSC set. Its format is Pan & Scan, because it was
originally edited for television.

The Japanese import laserdisc is out of print.

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6.4 What merchandise was produced in connection with the movie?

A large number of toys and merchandise was produced in connection with
the movie. Any information beyond that listed here would be appreciated.
This information is to a large degree based on a list of Dune
merchandise by Josh Z.

For more information and pictures of movie merchandise, go to:
<http://www.arrakis.co.uk/collectorsbook.html>

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6.4.1 Action figures and toys

LJN Toys released a series of action figures and toys based on the
movie.

Paul Atreides action figure
Baron Harkonnen action figure
Stilgar the Fremen action figure
Beast Rabban action figure
Sardaukar warrior action figure
Feyd-Rautha action figure

Sandworm posable toy
Spice Scout vehicle
Motorized mini-vehicles (Sand Scouts):
Sand Roller, Sand Crawler, Sand Tracker
Fremen Tarpel Gun
Sardaukar Laser Gun

Revell also produced a Worm model, Ornithopter and Sand Crawler distinct
from the LJN toys.

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6.4.2 Trading cards

Fleer released a set of Trading cards and stickers (with bubblegum). The
cards depict scenes and characters from the movie. The complete set
includes 132 cards and 44 stickers.

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6.4.3 Promotional material

Innumerable different posters (in different languages) for the film
exist. In addition to this, there was a movie press kit given to
reviewers on the release of the film, and a special copy of the
Terminology of Dune handed out to audiences in some theatres.
Information on further curiosa would be appreciated.

It is sometimes possible to buy genuine props and costumes from the
movie. Replicas of various items, especially crysknives, are also
available.

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6.4.4 Various items

Party favors:
Paper plates (7- and 9-inch)
Paper napkins
Party blowers

Official buttons. Four different motives.

View-master reels. 3 reels (21 pictures total) of 3-D pictures.

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6.4.5 Things listed elsewhere

For data on books dealing with the film, see subject 5.3.4
For soundtrack information, see subject 7.1.1
For information on the Parker Bros. game, see subject 8.4.2

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6.5 Has there been other attempts to film _Dune_?

Yes, there has been several attempts to film _Dune_. Sterling Lanier and
Chilton bought the film rights for _Dune_ already in 1963. The first
major attempt to bring the book to the screen started in the mid-
seventies, when Michel Seydoux bought the movie rights for Alejandro
Jodorowsky, director of _El Topo_ and _The Holy Mountain_. Jodorowsky
signed on Jean "Moebius" Giraud, Chris Foss and H. R. Giger to do the
artwork for the film, Pink Floyd to direct the music, and Orson Welles,
Salvador Dali and his own son Brontis to act. The screenplay was a
radical revision of Frank Herbert's story. The investors withdrew
financial backing after Jodorowsky had spent millions without having
started filming, and the production foundered. The story, images and
concepts of the film later resurfaced in work by Jodorowsky, Moebius,
Foss and Giger. Jodorowsky's thoughts on the project can be read at:
<http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky/dunestory.html>

Dino de Laurentiis picked up the rights to _Dune_ after the failure of
Jodorowsky. Frank Herbert insisted on being admitted as script
consultant. Several versions of the movie were proposed before Lynch was
hired as director, including an attempt by Ridley Scott (director of
_Alien_ and later _Blade Runner_ and _Thelma & Louise_), whose concept
was rejected because of its high budget. Finally, David Lynch directed
the film that reached cinemas.

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6.6 What is the _Dune_ TV series?

In 1998, the Sci-Fi channel commissioned a _Dune_ television mini series
to be produced by New Amsterdam Entertainment, Betafilm and Tandem
Communications. The series was written and directed by John Harrison.
Principal photography started in Prague in November 1999, and the three
episodes of the series aired on the US Sci-Fi Channel on December 3.-5.
2000. The series has been released on both American NTSC VHS and R1 DVD,
and European PAL VHS and R2 DVD.

Additional scenes (considered too controversial for American television)
are included in European broadcasts and releases.

The Sci-Fi Channel have commissioned a second series, based on _Dune
Messiah_ and _Children of Dune_. The working title of this series is
"Children of Dune", and the script by John Harrison (who will most
likely again direct) has been completed. This series will air in 2002 or
2003.

The series was written and directed by John Harrison, with Vittorio
Storaro as cinematographer, Miljen "Kreka" Klakovic as production
designer and Theodor Pistek as costume designer. Executive producers
were Richard P. Rubinstein and Mitchell Galin. The series starred: Alec
Newman (Paul Atreides), William Hurt (Leto), Barbara Kodetova (Chani),
Saskia Reeves (Jessica), Giancarlo Giannini (Shaddam IV), Julie
Cox(Irulan), Ian McNeice (Baron Harkonnen) and Matt Keeslar
(Feyd-Rautha).

For more information, check out the official website:
<http://www.scifi.com/dune/>

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7. Questions about sound recordings relating to Dune

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7.1 Are there any Dune-related music albums?

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7.1.1 Movie Soundtrack

There are two main versions of the soundtrack to the movie. The original
soundtrack ("Dune: Original Soundtrack Recording") has been released
multiple times (on LP, cassette and CD) by Polydor, and can currently be
bought on import. Production # 422 823 770-2.

In 1997, P.E.G. Recordings released a digitally remastered version of
the soundtrack, called "Dune: Original Motion Picture Score." It is
often referred to as the David Paich version of the soundtrack. It
contains many new tracks, but does not include Brian Eno's Prophecy
Theme. The dialogue present in the original release has been removed
here (hence its title "motion picture score" rather than "soundtrack").
This CD is no longer in production, and can be hard to find. Production
# PEG 015.

For track listing and purchasing information, see:
<http://www.fremen.org/collectibles/soundtrack.html>

For more information, see:
<http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/dune.html>

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7.1.2 Mini Series Soundtrack

Graeme Revell's soundtrack score to the mini series is released by GNP
Crescendo Records. It can be bought (only) over their website:
<http://gnpcrescendo.com/ >

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7.1.3 Exxos "Dune: a Spice Opera"

Exxos (an alternative company name for Cryo Interactive) made a
soundtrack to their Dune I computer game. Of the thirteen tracks on the
album, eight appeared in the game (one tune from the game did not make
it to the soundtrack. The tune is the seventh to be played if you put
the game music in CD mode, and is unofficially known as "Bagdad"). One
track appears in two mixes (Dune Theme/Dune Variation). The music for
the game was composed by Stéphane Picq; he and Stephen Ulrich made the
soundtrack.

"Dune: a Spice Opera" by Exxos (Cryo Interactive). Published by
Virgin Records Ltd. CDVE 911.

The CD went out of production in 1994, and is very hard to find. MP3
files of the music are floating around on the Internet, but be aware
that these are illegal. If you would like this soundtrack, please ask
Virgin to reprint it. You can also write to:

EXXOS: CRYO Interactive, Exxos, 43, Rue de Richelieu,
75001, PARIS, FRANCE.

Track list:
-Spice Opera (4:54)
-Emotion Control (4:26)
-Ecolove (5:07)
-Water (3:12)
-Revelation (6:07)
-Free Men (6:32)
-Wake Up (5:51)
-Dune Theme (5:14)
-Chani's Eyes (5:06)
-Sign of the Worm (3:51)
-Too (4:33)
-Dune Variation (6:28)
-Cryogenia (4:46)

The music is very good, with an Arabient techno ambiance that captures
the Dune mood perfectly.

For more information, check out Stéphane Picq's homepage:
<http://www.multimania.com/esteban/english/index.shtml>

...and this fan site:
<http://www.terravista.pt/Nazare/4347/dune.html>

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7.1.4 Emperor: Battle for Dune Soundtrack

This CD with 13 track of music from Westwood's latest Dune game is only
available for those who order a special edition of the game through
Electronic Art's (EA) US online store. Frank Klepacki (who composed the
music for Dune II and Dune 2000) composed the Atreides part of the
soundtrack, while David Arkenstone and Jarrid Mendelson did the
Harkonnen and Ordos parts, respectively.

Track list:
-The War Begins (4:33) (Atreides)
-The Machine (4:50) (Harkonnen)
-Not an Option (3:52) (Ordos)
-Unstoppable (5:50) (Harkonnen)
-Ride the Worm (5:36) (Atreides)
-Sabotage (4:19) (Ordos)
-Harkonnen Force (5:29) (Harkonnen)
-Assembling the Troops (7:42) (Atreides)
-Ghola (3:48) (Ordos)
-Legacy (6:14) (Harkonnen)
-The Specimen (5:06) (Ordos)
-The Spice Must Flow (4:47) (Atreides)
-Tribute to Evil (6:21) (Harkonnen)

Buy it from EA's website:
<http://www.ea.com/>

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7.1.5 "Chronolyse"

Richard Pinhas from the band Heldon released Chronolyse in 1978, having
recorded it in 1976. He calls it: "Imaginary music for the book of Frank
Herbert, _Dune_."

"Chronolyse" by Richard Pinhas. Cobra 1978. COB 37.015

Track list:
Variations sur le thème de Bene Gesserit:
-Variation I (2:22)
-Variation II (2:15)
-Variation III (1:36)
-Variation IV (1:44)
-Variation V (1:35)
-Variation VI (2:05)
-Variation VII (4:33)

-Duncan Idaho (6:12)
-Paul Atreides (30:23)

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7.1.6 Klaus Schulze's "Dune"

German electronica composer Klaus Schulze made an album inspired by
Frank Herbert's novel in 1979. It is available on CD as a foreign
import.

"Dune" by Klaus Schulze. Metronome GmbH 1979

Track list:
-Dune (30:06)
-Shadows of Ignorance (26:15)

The first track is instrumental, while the second has singing (in
English) by one Arthur Brown. The lyrics don't seem to have any
connection to Dune. Schulze's "X" album contains a track called "Frank
Herbert".

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7.1.7 David Matthews' "Dune"

David Matthews (not the Dave Matthews of the Dave Matthews Band)
arranged a Dune album in 1977. One side of the LP (there is no known CD
release, only stereo 8 track and cassette) contains Dune-related
material, the other various science-fiction material. Another of
Matthews' albums also contains a tribute to Frank Herbert.

"Dune" by David Matthews. CTI Records: A Division of Creed
Taylor, Inc. 1977

Track list:
Side 1-Dune
-Part I Arrakis (6:03)
-Part II Sandworms (5:03)
-Part III Song of the Bene Gesserit (2:50)
-Part IV Muad'Dib (6:36)

Side 2
-Space Oddity (6:05)
-Silent Running (3:16)
-Princess Leia's Theme (from Star Wars) (2:55)
-Main Theme from Star Wars (3:22)

The music is some kind of disco-jazz, with lyrics only on David Bowie's
Space Oddity (not sung by Bowie, though). Side 2 is generally the more
enjoyable, because of its unusual versions of well-known songs.

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7.1.8 "Eros"

The French band Dün released this album independently in 1981. In 1999
it was re-released on CD by the Soleil label.

"Eros" by Dün. Soleil Atreides 1999.

Track list:
L'epice 9:25 (J. Geerhaerts)
Arrakis 9:36 (P. Vandenbulcke)
Bitonio 7:09 (P. Vandenbulcke)
Eros 10:17 (J. Geerhaerts)
* Bitonio 10:20 (P. Vandenbulcke)
** Arrakis 5:07 (P. Vandenbulcke)
** Eros 7:11 (J. Geerhaerts)
*** Acoustic Fremen 6:17 (J. Geerhaerts, P. Vandenbulcke, P. Portejoie)

* Bonus track, recorded 1979
** Bonus tracks, recorded 1978
*** Bonus track, recorded 1978

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7.1.9 "Parallel Galaxy"

Emmett Chapman, inventor of the Chapman stick, released a solo album
called Parallel Galaxy in 1985. A track from this album
(Backyard)appears on the Alan Smithee cut of Dune as Gurney plays the
baliset (in reality a thinly disguised Chapman stick).

"Parallel Galaxy" by Emmett Chapman. Stick Enterprises 1985.

For more information, refer to the official web site:
<http://www.stick.com/>

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7.2 Has Dune inspired other music?

Yes, Dune has inspired many other bands and artists. However, the Dune
connection is often tenuous, limited to a few samples from the movie,
for instance.

Band: Altar of Sacrifice
Genre: Hardcore
Dune connection: Movie sample in "Mind in Motion"
On album: Mind in Motion single

Band: Arrakis
Genre: Techno
Dune connection: Band name, movie sample in "The Spice"
On album: The Spice

Band: Astral Projection
Genre: Trance
Dune connection: Movie sample in "Dancing Galaxy" and others
On album: Dancing Galaxy; No One Ever Dreams

Band: Blind Guardian
Genre: Hard rock
Dune connection: "Traveller in time" inspired by Dune
On album: Tales from the Twilight World

Band: Die Fantastischen Vier
Genre: Hip-hop
Dune connection: Movie samples and lyrics in "Der Krieger"
On album: Lauschgift

Band: Dune
Genre: Techno
Dune connection: Band name (from movie), movie samples
On album: Dune

Band: Dynamix II
Genre: Electronica
Dune connection: Movie sample in "Get out of my mind"
On album: Machine Language

Band: Eon
Genre: Techno
Dune connection: Track names, movie samples
On album: Void Dweller

Artist: Fatboy Slim
Genre: Techno
Dune connection: Lyrics in "Weapon of Choice"
On album: Halfway between the Gutter and the Stars

Artist: Fear Factory
Genre: Industrial
Dune connection: Album Title
On album: Fear is the Mindkiller EP

Band: Iron Maiden
Genre: Hard rock
Dune connection: "To Tame a Land" lyrics inspired by Dune (novel)
On album: Piece of Mind
Anecdote: Approached FH about making Dune music, but were turned down as
"Frank Herbert doesn't like rock music. Especially not hard rock. And
especially not Iron Maiden."

Band: Jamiroquai
Genre: Trip hop/Acid Jazz
Dune connection: Song title "Travelling without Moving"
On album: Travelling without Moving

Band: Juno Reactor
Genre: Trance
Dune connection: Movie sample in "Rotorblade"
On album: Beyond the Infinite

Band: Kwisatz Haderach
Genre: Hard-core
Dune connection: Band name

Band: Manufacture
Genre: Industrial
Dune connection: Movie samples, track "Pain amplifier"

Artist: Pablo Gargano
Genre: Hardhouse/techno
Dune connection: Movie samples, track "The secret spice"

Band: Shai Hulud
Genre: Hard-core
Dune connection: Band name, artist name (Muad'Dib), movie samples

Band: Stillsuit
Genre: Hard-core
Dune connection: Band name

Artist: Tom Smith
Genre: Comedy
Dune connection: Track "Crystal Gale killed Frank Herbert"
On album: Who let him in here?
Lyrics online at
<http://www.tomsmithonline.com/lyrics/crystalgayle.htm>

Artist: Trey Gunn
Dune connection: Track "Arrakis"
On album: The Third Star
Can be ordered online at:
<http://www.disciplineglobalmobile.com/cat/9606cat.shtml>

Further music inspired by Dune would be appreciated.

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7.2.1 By fans

Many fans have become inspired by _Dune_ to create music. This section
is heavily under construction.

- In 1998, "SSM" posted links to MIDI and MP3 files of a melody composed
by his brother called "Gurney's song" (the one that begins "Orchards and
vineyards") to alt.fan.dune. There's no known current source for these
files.
- In January 2001, Alexander Johannesen posted a link to an MP3 of a
track he had made called "Dunish", featuring samples from the movie.
There is no known current source for this file.
- In 2001, Giovanni Wassen posted links to several Dune-inspired tracks
he had made. They are available on his website:
<http://www.nmmusic.nl/dunesaga.html>

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7.3 Are there any spoken word recordings of Dune works?

Yes. Unabridged recordings of several books in the Dune Chronicles have
been published. Also available on audio are excerpts read by the author,
as well as interviews with Frank Herbert.

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7.3.1 The Dune Audio Collection

This is a compilation of four mono cassettes, previously released
separately as "Sandworms of Dune", "Dune - The Banquet Scene", "Battles
of Dune" and "Truths of Dune." Recorded in 1977-79, they contain
excerpts from the first three books, melded with connective text written
by Frank Herbert. They are all read by the author. The description
states that the Audio Collection is a "selection" of the four
recordings, it is unknown whether it includes all the material from
them. Certainly it is missing the extensive liner notes written by Frank
Herbert.

_Sandworms of Dune_, Frank Herbert, Caedmon (p1978).
One 2-track mono cassette. 41 minutes.
#TC 1565, CDL 51565

_Dune: The Banquet Scene_, Frank Herbert, (1977).
Mono LP, cassette. 54 minutes.
#TC 1555, CP 1555

_The Battles of Dune_, Frank Herbert, Caedmon, Harper Classics
(1979, 1994). Mono LP, cassette. 62 minutes.
#TC 1601, CDL 51601

_Truths of Dune: Fear is the Mind Killer_, Frank Herbert, Caedmon
(1979). Mono LP, cassette. 45 minutes.
#TC 1616, CDL 51616

_The Dune Audio Collection_, Frank Herbert. Containing selections
of the four above. Caedmon: An Imprint of Harper Audio (1994).
ISBN: 1-55994-957-0.

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7.3.2 The Dune Chronicles

_Dune_, Frank Herbert (read by George Guidall). Complete and
unabridged. Isis Audio Books (a division of Isis Publishing
Ltd.).
ISBN: 1-85695-896-5

_Dune_, Frank Herbert (read by Connor O'Brien). Complete and
unabridged. Books on Tape, Inc. (1997).
ISBN: 073663763X

_Dune Messiah_, Frank Herbert (read by Connor O'Brien). Complete
and unabridged. Books on Tape, Inc. (1997).
ISBN: 0736640185

_Children of Dune_, Frank Herbert (read by Connor O'Brien).
Complete and unabridged. Books on Tape, Inc. (1997).
ISBN: 0736640193

_God Emperor of Dune_, Frank Herbert (read by Connor O'Brien).
Complete and unabridged. Books on Tape, Inc. (1998).
ISBN: 0736644229

Note that the above books read by Connor O'Brien are available through
Barnes & Noble.

_God Emperor of Dune_, Frank Herbert. Cassette. Approx.
60 minutes. Excerpts read by the author. Harper
Classics (1994, c1982).
#TC 1694

_Heretics of Dune_, Frank Herbert. Cassette. 47 minutes.
First two chapters read by the author. Harper
Classics (1994, c1984).
#TC 1742

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7.3.3 Interviews.

"DUNE: a Recorded Interview". Author FRANK HERBERT and
film director DAVID LYNCH discussing the making of
"DUNE", the motion picture; followed by Frank
Herbert's dialogue on beliefs, values and his writing.
Printed as a Waldentapes Special Edition. ISBN
0-681-30895-8. According to Kevin Buchli it's a "$6.95
value priced at $2.95".

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1. Document information

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1.1 Table of Contents

(The full Table of Contents is available in part 1)

PART 2

5. Questions about written materials on Dune
5.1 What books are in the _Dune_ series?
5.2 Are more _Dune_ stories being written?
5.3 What other books about Dune have been published?
5.4 What other books has Frank Herbert written?
5.5 Have the books in the _Dune_ series been serialised?
5.6 Have the books in the _Dune_ series been translated?
5.7 Are there any differences between _Dune_ series editions?
5.8 Are there any comics and illustrated books about Dune?
5.9 Can I get a signed copy of _The Dune Encyclopedia_?

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5. Questions about written materials on Dune

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5.1 What books are in the _Dune_ series?

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5.1.1 _Dune_, Frank Herbert, New York : Ace/Berkley Pub.
(1999, c1965).

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5.1.2 _Dune Messiah_, Frank Herbert, New York : Ace/Berkley Pub.
(1999, c1969).

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5.1.3 _Children of Dune_, Frank Herbert, New York : Ace/Berkley
Pub. (1999, c1976).

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5.1.4 _God Emperor of Dune_, Frank Herbert, New York : Ace/Berkley
Pub. (1999, c1981).

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5.1.5 _Heretics of Dune_, Frank Herbert, New York : Ace/Berkley
Pub. (1996, c1984).

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5.1.6 _Chapterhouse: Dune_, Frank Herbert, New York : Ace/Berkley
Pub. (1999, c1985).

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5.2 Are more _Dune_ stories being written?

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5.2.1 By Frank Herbert

There is conjecture that Frank Herbert was in the process of writing a
seventh book when he died. Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson (see
below) claim to have found the notes for this book.

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5.2.2 Prequels by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson

Brian Herbert, Frank's son, has agreed to write three prequels to
_Dune_, called _Prelude to Dune_. He will be co-writing them with Kevin
J. Anderson. The first two books, _House Atreides_ and _House Harkonnen_
are already out. The third book in the series goes by the working title
_House Corrino_ (formerly _The Spice War_). If these prequels are
commercially successful, the two plan to pen a seventh book, based on
Frank Herbert's notes. They also have ideas for many more books in the
Dune setting.

_Prelude to Dune: House Atreides_, Brian Herbert and Kevin J.
Anderson, Bantam Doubleday Dell Pub. (1999).
ISBN: 0553110616

_Prelude to Dune: House Harkonnen_, Brian Herbert and Kevin J.
Anderson, Bantam Doubleday Dell Pub. (2000).
ISBN: 0553110721

_Prelude to Dune: House Corrino_, Brian Herbert and Kevin J.
Anderson, Spectra (2001).
ISBN: 0553110845

For more information about the upcoming _Dune_ books, see:
<http://www.dunenovels.com/>

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5.2.3 Short story by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson

Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson have also written a short story in
the Dune setting.

Herbert, Brian and Kevin J. Anderson (ill. Mark Zug) "A Whisper of
Caladan Seas" in _Amazing Stories_, Summer 1999, #597,
pp. 66-73.

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5.3 What other books about Dune have been published?

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5.3.1 Dune fiction

_The Dune Encyclopedia_, Willis E. McNelly (ed.), New York :
Berkley Books (1984), also Putnam (1984) and Corgi (1984).
ISBN: 0-425-06813-7, 0-399-12950-2, 0-552-99131-7

A comprehensive, authorised encyclopedia spanning the _Dune_ series up
to book 4, and including little-known information and nice drawings.
It's written from a post-Scattering perspective. See subject 4.2.

_National Lampoon's Doon_, Ellis Weiner, New York : Pocket Books, a
Division of Simon Schuster, Inc. (1984) and Grafton (1985).
ISBN: 0-671-54144-7, 0-586-06635-7

This one is a hilarious parody of _Dune_. 221 pages includes parts one
to three (Doon, Muave'Bib and The Profit) with a Terms of the Imperium
Appendix.

_Eye_, Frank Herbert (ill. Jim Burns), New York : Berkley Pub.
(1985), also Putnam (1985), Victor Gollancz (1986), Ace (1987)
and New English Library (1988).
ISBN: 0-425-08398-5

Contains short stories from throughout Mr. Herbert's career. Notable is
the story, "The Road to Dune," written in 1985.

There is a small but growing body of Dune fan-fiction.

Dune Revenant:
<http://www.geocities.com/dune_revenant/dunerevenantbook.doc>

Dune7: Advent:
<http://www.usul.net/fandom/leeuwen.htm>

Dawn:
<http://www.tribeagles.org/susan/dawn.txt>

Rulers of Dune:
<http://psychoskuld.tripod.com/dunefanfic.html>

Harq al-Ada's Literary Roundtable:
<http://communities.msn.com/TheLandsraad/
harqaladasliteraryroundtable.msnw>

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5.3.2 Analytical essays

John Kenny has chartered Project McNelly; an attempt to list all essays
dealing with the Dune Chronicles, named after the prolific
Dune-reviewer. The list of books dedicated to interpreting _Dune_,
including biographies of Frank Herbert, is reproduced here. For the full
listing of magazine articles etc., refer to Project McNelly's website
(under construction). If you wish to join Project McNelly, contact John
Kenny <jke...@bellsouth.net>.

_Cliffs Notes on Herbert's Dune and other works_, Louis David
Allen, Cliffs Notes (1975).
ISBN: 0822012316

_(Starmont Readers' Guide #5:) Frank Herbert_, David M. Miller,
Starmont House (1980), reprinted Borgo Press (1981).
ISBN: 0916732169, 0893700363

_(Recognitions:) Frank Herbert_, Tim O'Reilly, Ungar (1981).
ISBN: 080442666X

_The Maker of Dune: insights of a master of science fiction_,
Frank Herbert, Tim O'Reilly (ed.), New York : Berkley
Books (1987).
ISBN: 0425097854

_(Twayne's United States authors series:) Frank Herbert_,
William F. Touponce, Twayne Publishers (1988). Bibliography,
includes index.
ISBN: 0805775145

_Dune Master: A Frank Herbert bibliography_, Daniel J. H. Levack
(ed.) with annotations by Mark Willard, Meckler (1988).
ISBN: 0887360998

_Hugo Gernsback, Father of Modern Science Fiction: with Essays on
Frank Herbert and Bram Stoker_, Mark Richard Siegel, Borgo
Press (1988).
ISBN: 0893702749

_Frank Herbert: Prophet of Dune_, Harold Lee Prosser, Borgo
Press (1989).
ISBN: 0893702196

_Frank Herbert: A Voice from the Desert (A working bibliography)_,
Gordon Benson Jr., Phil Stephensen-Payne, Borgo Press (1990).
ISBN: 0809547341

_Frank Herbert_, Phil Stephensen-Payne, Galactic Central (1991).
ISBN: 1871133270

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5.3.3 Excerpts from the Chronicles

_The Notebooks of Frank Herbert's Dune_, Brian Herbert (ed.),
New York : Perigee Books (1988). Binding: Paperback.
ISBN: 0-399-51466-X.

_Songs of Muad'Dib: poems and songs from Frank Herbert's Dune
series and his other writings_, Brian Herbert (ed.),
New York : Ace (1992).

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5.3.4 Movie-related material

_The Making of Dune_, Ed Naha, New York : Berkley Books (1984).
This one is about the making of the movie.

_The Dune Storybook_, Joan D. Vinge (adapted from a screenplay by
David Lynch, based on the novel by Frank Herbert), Putnam
(1984).
ISBN: 0-399-12949-9

_Dune Activity Book_, Grosset & Dunlap (1984).
ISBN: 0-448-23351-7

_Dune Pop-Up Panorama Book_, Maida Silverman (ill. Daniel Kirk),
Grosset & Dunlap (1984).
ISBN: 0-448-23353-3

_Dune Cut-Out Activity Book_, Grosset & Dunlap (1984).
ISBN: 0-448-23352-5

_Dune Coloring Book_, Michael Nicastre, Grosset & Dunlap (1984).
ISBN: 0-448-23356-8

_Dune Coloring & Activity Book_, Arlene Block (ill. Michael
Nicastre), Grosset & Dunlap (1984).
ISBN: 0-448-23354-1

_Dune Puzzles, Games, Mazes & Activities_, Katherine Randall
(ill. Michael Nicastre), Grosset & Dunlap (1984).
ISBN: 0-448-23355-X

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5.4 What other books has Frank Herbert written?

This should be a complete list of books where Frank Herbert appears as
author. These include non-fiction and as editor. It should be noted that
several of the anthologies listed here have been reprinted with some of
the stories missing.

_Survival and the Atom_ (1952)
_The Dragon in the Sea_ (a.k.a. _Under Pressure_, a.k.a. _21st
Century Sub_) (1956)
_Dune_ (1965)
_The Green Brain_ (1966)
_Destination: Void_ (1966)
_The Eyes of Heisenberg_ (1966)
_The Heaven Makers_ (1968)
_The Santaroga Barrier_ (1968)
_Dune Messiah_ (1969)
_Whipping Star_ (1970)
_New World or No World_ (ed.) (1970)
_The Worlds of Frank Herbert_ (1970)
_Soul Catcher_ (1972)
_The Godmakers_ (1972)
_Hellstrom's Hive_ (a.k.a. _Project 40_) (1973)
_The Book of Frank Herbert_ (1973)
_Threshold: The Blue Angels Experience_ (1973)
_Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow..._ (co ed.) (1974)
_The Best of Frank Herbert_ (1975)
_Children of Dune_ (1976)
_The Dosadi Experiment_ (1977)
_Destination: Void_ (revised) (1978)
_The Jesus Incident_ (with Bill Ransom) (1979)
_Without Me, You're Nothing: The Essential Guide to Home Computers_
(with Max Barnard) (1980)
_Direct Descent_ (1980)
_The Priests of Psi_ (1980)
_God Emperor of Dune_ (1981)
_Nebula Winners 15_ (ed.) (1981)
_The White Plague_ (1982)
_The Lazarus Effect_ (with Bill Ransom) (1983)
_Heretics of Dune_ (1984)
_Eye_ (1985)
_Chapterhouse: Dune_ (1985)
_Man of Two Worlds_ (with Brian Herbert) (1986)
_Worlds beyond Dune_ (1987)
_The Ascension Factor_ (with Bill Ransom) (1988)

The above list was compiled on the basis of bibliographies by John Wenn
and Kuusankosken Kaupunginkirjasto, with additional information from the
Frank Herbert Archives at California State University, Fullerton:
University Archives & Special Collections Section, University Library.
It has later been checked and corrected against _Dune Master: A Frank
Herbert Bibliography_ by Levack and Willard.

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5.5 Have the books in the _Dune_ series been serialised?

Yes. Many of the books in the _Dune_ series have been published serially
in different magazines. Most of these serialisations represent the first
publication of each novel.

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5.5.1 _Dune_

_Dune_ was serialised in "Analog: Science Fact, Science Fiction" in two
separate series. The first was titled _Dune World_ and ran from Dec.
1963 to Feb. 1964. The second was titled _Prophet of Dune_ and ran from
Jan. 1965 to May 1965. The publication was illustrated by John
Schoenherr. This was the first publication of _Dune_, and differs
substantially from the text of the book.

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5.5.2 _Dune Messiah_

_Dune Messiah_ was serialised in "Galaxy" from July 1969 to Nov. 1969.
The serialisation was illustrated by Jack Gaughan and represented the
first publication of the novel. The text varies somewhat from the book
version, being appreciably shorter, and includes an alternative first
chapter supposedly written by Bronso of Ix.

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5.5.3 _Children of Dune_

_Children of Dune_ was serialised in "Analog: Science Fact, Science
Fiction" from Jan. 1976 to April 1976. It was illustrated by John
Schoenherr.

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5.5.4 _God Emperor of Dune_

An extract from _God Emperor of Dune_ was published in "Playboy" Jan.
1981. It covered the arrival of Duncan Idaho on Arrakis.

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5.5.5 _Heretics of Dune_

An extract from _Heretics of Dune_ was published in "Omni" March 1984.
It consists of a slightly condensed version of the sixth chapter of the
book.

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5.5.6 _Dune: House Atreides_

An extract of _House Atreides_ was released in "Playboy" Nov. 1999. It
detailed the young Duncan Idaho's escape from the Harkonnens on Giedi
Prime.

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5.6 Have the books in the _Dune_ series been translated?

Yes, at least some of the books in the _Dune_ series have been
translated to: Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian,
Italian, Japanese, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazilian), Rumanian,
Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish (and Catalan), Swedish and Turkish. Any
further information about any of these or other translations would be
very much appreciated.

Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's prequel to the series, _Dune:
House Atreides_ (see subject 5.2.2), is or will be translated to: Czech,
Dutch, French, Hebrew, Italian, Polish and Spanish.

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5.6.1 Czech

All six Dune novels have been translated to Czech.

_Duna_ (transl. K. Blazek and J. Smekal, originally _Dune_),
Svoboda (1988).
_Spasitel Duny_ (transl. P. Bojar and M. Jakubcova, originally
_Dune Messiah_), Svoboda - Libertas (1993).
_Deti Duny_ (transl. V. Volhejnova, originally _Children of Dune_),
Svoboda (1995).
_Bozsky imperator Duny_ (originally _God Emperor of Dune_).
_Kaciri Duny_ (originally _Heretics of Dune_).
_Kapitula: Duna_ (transl V. Lackovic, originally _Chapterhouse:
Dune_), Baronet (1999).

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5.6.2 Danish

The three first volumes of the series have been translated to Danish.

_Klit_ (originally _Dune_), Borgens Forlag (1977).
_Profeten på Klit_ (originally _Dune Messiah_),
Borgens Forlag.
_Børnene på Klit_ (originally _Children of Dune_),
Borgens Forlag.

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5.6.3 Dutch

All six Dune novels have been translated to Dutch.

_Duin_ (transl. M. K. Stuyter, originally _Dune_), Meulenhoff
Nederland (1974).
_Duin Messias_ (transl. M. K. Stuyter, originally _Dune Messiah_),
Meulenhoff Nederland (1975).
_Kinderen van Duin_ (transl. M. K. Stuyter, originally _Children of
Dune_), Meulenhoff Nederland (1977).
_God-keizer op Duin_ (transl. M. K. Stuyter, originally _ God
Emperor of Dune_), Meulenhoff Nederland (1982).
_Ketters van Duin_ (transl. M. K. Stuyter, originally _Heretics of
Dune_), Meulenhoff Nederland (1984).
_Duin Kapittel_ (transl. M. K. Stuyter, originally _Chapterhouse:
Dune_), Meulenhoff Nederland (1989).

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5.6.4 Finnish

The first two Dune books have been translated to Finnish. Frank
Herbert's short story "Passage for Piano" was published as "Tilaa
Pianolle" in the anthology _Maailma Mielen Mukaan_ (1986), translated
and edited by Matti Rosvall.

_Dyyni -- Ensimmäinen osa: Dyyni_ (transl. Anja Toivonen and Ari
Koskinen, originally _Dune_ book one, "Dune"), Werner
Södeström
Osakeyhtiö (1982).
_Dyyni -- Toinen osa : Muad'Dib_ (transl. Anja Toivonen and Ari
Koskinen, originally _Dune_ book two, "Muad'Dib"), Werner
Södeström Osakeyhtiö (1983).
_Dyyni -- Kolmas osa: Profeetta _ (transl. Anja Toivonen and Ari
Koskinen, originally _Dune_ book three, "The Prophet"), Werner
Södeström Osakeyhtiö (1983).
_Dyynin Messias_ (transl. Hilkka Pekkanen, originally _Dune
Messiah_), Werner Södeström Osakeyhtiö (1987).

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5.6.5 French

All the Dune books have been translated to French.

_Dune_ (transl. Michel Demuth, originally _Dune_), Ailleurs et
Demain 6, 32bis (1970, 1975), also Edito-Service 12 (1975),
Press Pocket (1980) and France Loisir (1984).
_Le Messie de Dune_ (transl. Michel Demuth, originally _Dune
Messiah_), Ailleurs et Demain 15, 32bis (1970, 1975), also
Edito Service 13 (1975), Press Pocket (1980) and France Loisir
(1984).
_Les Enfants de Dune_ (transl. Michel Demuth, originally _Children
of Dune_), Ailleurs et Demain 30 (1978), also Futurs July-
August 1978 (extract), Press Pocket (1983) and France Loisir
(1984).
_L'Empereur-Dieu de Dune_ (transl. Guy Abadia, originally _God
Emperor of Dune_), Ailleurs et Demain 73 (1982), also France
Loisir (1984) and Press Pocket (1987).
_Les Hérétiques de Dune_ (transl. Guy Abadia, originally _Heretics
of Dune_), Ailleurs et Demain (1986), also France Loisir
(1986) and Press Pocket (1989).
_La Maison des Mères_ (transl. Guy Abadia, originally
_Chapterhouse: Dune_), Ailleurs et Demain (1986), also France
Loisir (1987) and Press Pocket (1990).

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5.6.6 German

All the Dune books have been translated to German. So has _The Dune
Encyclopedia_, published as _Der Wüstenplanet Enzyklopädie_ in two
volumes. Furthermore, these other books by Frank Herbert also exist in
German translation: _The Dragon in the Sea_ as _Atom-U-Boot S 1881_,
_The Green Brain_ as _Das grüne Herz_ and as _Der Kampf der Insekten_,
_Destination: Void_ as _Ein Cyborg fällt aus_, _The Eyes of Heisenberg_
as _Die Augen Heisenbergs_ and as _Revolte gegen die Unsterblichen_,
_The Heaven Makers_ as _Gefangen in der Ewigkeit_, _The Santaroga
Barrier_ as _Die Leute von Santaroga_, _Whipping Star_ as _Der letzte
Caleban_, _The Godmakers_ as _Die Riten der Götter_, _Hellstrom's Hive_
as _Hellströms Brut_, _The Book of Frank Herbert_ as _Herrscher der
Erde_, _The Dosadi Experiment_ as _Das Dosadi-Experiment_, _The Jesus
Incident_ as _Der Jesus-Zwischenfall_, _The White Plague_ as _Die weisse
Pest_, _The Lazarus Effect_ as _Der Lazarus-Effekt_, _Eye_ as _Auge_,
_Man of Two Worlds_ as _Mann zweier Welten_ and _The Ascension Factor_
as _Der Himmelsfahrt-Faktor_. Most of his short stories are available in
the original collection _Der Tod einer Stadt_.

_Der Wüstenplanet_ (transl. Wulf H. Bergner, abridged, originally
_Dune_), Heyne Bücher (1967).
_Der Wüstenplanet_ (transl. Ronald M. Hahn, originally _Dune_),
Heyne Bücher (1978).
_Der Herr des Wüstenplaneten_ (transl. Walter Brumm, abridged,
originally _Dune Messiah_), Heyne Bücher (1971).
_Der Herr des Wüstenplaneten_ (transl. Walter Brumm and Ronald M.
Hahn, originally _Dune Messiah_), Heyne Bücher (1978).
_Die Kinder des Wüstenplaneten_ (transl. Ronald M. Hahn, originally
_Children of Dune_), Heyne Bücher (1978).
_Der Gottkaiser des Wüstenplaneten_ (originally _God Emperor of
Dune_), Heyne Bücher.
_Die Ketzer des Wüstenplaneten_ (originally _Heretics of Dune_),
Heyne Bücher.
_Die Ordensburg des Wüstenplaneten_ (originally _Chapterhouse:
Dune_), Heyne Bücher.

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5.6.7 Hungarian

The entire _Dune_ series has been translated to Hungarian.

_A Dûne_ (transl. Békés András, originally _Dune), (1987).
Published in two volumes.
_Dûne Messiása_ (transl. Gáspár András and Szalkai László,
originally _Dune Messiah_), (1992).
_Dûne Gyermekei_ (transl. Kornya Zsolt, originally _Children of
Dune_), (1993).
_Dûne Isten-császára_ (transl. Hoppán Eszter, originally _God
Emperor of Dune_), (1994).
_Dûne Eretnekei_ (transl. Hoppán Eszter, originally _Heretics of
Dune_), (1994).
_Dûne Káptalanház_ (transl. Hoppán Eszter, originally
_Chapterhouse: Dune_), (1995).

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5.6.8 Italian

All the Dune books have been translated to Italian.

_Dune_ (originally _Dune_), Editrice Nord.
_Messia di Dune_ (originally _Dune Messiah_), Editrice Nord.
_Figli di Dune_ (originally _Children of Dune_), Editrice Nord.
_L'Imperatore-Dio di Dune_ (originally _God Emperor of Dune_),
Editrice Nord.
_Gli Eretici di Dune_ (originally _Heretics of Dune_), Editrice
Nord.
_La Rifondazione di Dune_ (originally _Chapterhouse: Dune_),
Editrice Nord.

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5.6.9 Japanese

The Dune books at least up to _God Emperor of Dune_ have been translated
to Japanese. Although illustrated, this version is not a comic book
(manga).

_Dyûn: Suna no Wakusei 1_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl. Tetsu
Yano, originally first half of book 1 of _Dune_, "Dune"),
Hayakawa Shobô (1972).
_Dyûn: Suna no Wakusei 2_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl. Tetsu
Yano, originally second half of book 1 of _Dune_, "Dune"),
Hayakawa Shobô (1973).
_Dyûn: Suna no Wakusei 3_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl. Tetsu
Yano, originally book 2 of _Dune_, "Muad'Dib"), Hayakawa Shobô
(1973).
_Dyûn: Suna no Wakusei 4_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl. Tetsu
Yano, originally book 3 of _Dune_, "The Prophet"), Hayakawa
Shobô (1973).
_Dyûn: Sabaku no Kyûseishu_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl. Tetsu
Yano, originally _Dune Messiah_), Hayakawa Shobô (1973).
_Dyûn: Sakyû no Kodomotachi 1_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl.
Tetsu Yano, originally first third of _Children of Dune_),
Hayakawa Shobô (1978).
_Dyûn: Sakyû no Kodomotachi 2_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl.
Tetsu Yano, originally second third of _Children of Dune_),
Hayakawa Shobô (1979).
_Dyûn: Sakyû no Kodomotachi 3_ (ill. Shôtarô Ishimori, transl.
Tetsu Yano, originally last third of _Children of Dune_),
Hayakawa Shobô (1979).
_Dyûn: Sabaku no Shinkôtei 1_ (ill. Naoyuki Katô, transl.
Tetsu Yano, originally first third of _God Emperor of Dune_),
Hayakawa Shobô (1984).
_Dyûn: Sabaku no Shinkôtei 2_ (ill. Naoyuki Katô, transl.
Tetsu Yano, originally second third of _God Emperor of Dune_),
Hayakawa Shobô (1984).
_Dyûn: Sabaku no Shinkôtei 3_ (ill. Naoyuki Katô, transl.
Tetsu Yano, originally last third of _God Emperor of Dune_),
Hayakawa Shobô (1984).

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5.6.10 Norwegian

_Dune_ has been translated to Norwegian. It is published in two volumes,
one covering Book 1 and 2, and the other Book 3 and the Appendices.

_Sand: Del I_ (transl. Torstein Bugge Høverstad, originally book
1 and 2 of _Dune_, "Dune" and "Muad'Dib"), Eide Forlag (2000).
ISBN: 8251406021
_Sand: Del II_ (transl. Torstein Bugge Høverstad, originally book
3 of _Dune_, "The Prophet"), Eide Forlag (2000).
ISBN: 8251406048

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5.6.11 Polish

All the Dune books have been translated to Polish. Two different
translations of the books up to _God Emperor of Dune_ exist.

_Diuna_ (transl. Marek Marszal, originally _Dune_), Iskry (1985),
also Phantom Press Int. (1992).
_Diuna_ (transl. Jerzy Lozinski, originally _Dune_), Zysk i S-ka
(1997, reedited 1998).
_Mesjasz Diuny_ (transl. Maria Grabska, originally _Dune
Messiah_), Phantom Press Int. (1992).
_Mesjasz Diuny_ (transl. Jerzy Lozinski, originally _Dune
Messiah_), Zysk i S-ka (1999).
_Dzieci Diuny_ (transl. Marek Mastalerz, originally _Children of
Dune_), Phantom Press Int. (1992).
_Dzieci Diuny_ (transl. Wladislaw Jerzynski, originally _Children
of Dune_), Zysk i S-ka (1999).
_Bog Imperator Diuny_ (transl. Marek Mastalerz, originally _God
Emperor of Dune_), Phantom Press Int. (1992).
_Bog Cesarz Diuny_ (transl. Wladislaw Jerzynski, originally _God
Emperor of Dune_), Zysk i S-ka (1999).
_Heretycy Diuny_ (transl. Maria Grabska, originally _Heretics of
Dune_), Phantom Press Int. (1992).
_Diuna: Kapitularz_ (transl. Maria Ryc, originally _Chapterhouse:
Dune_), Phantom Press Int. (1993).

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5.6.12 Portuguese

All the Dune books have been translated to Portuguese in Brazil.

_Duna_ (ill. Victor Burton, Ingrid von Steurer and Gilberto
Zavarezzi, transl. Jorge Luiz Calife, originally _Dune_),
(1984).
_O Messias de Duna_ (ill. Nelson Lopez, transl. Jorge Luiz Calife,
originally _Dune Messiah_).
_Os Filhos de Duna_ (ill. Nelson Lopez, transl. Jorge Luiz Calife,
originally _Children of Dune_).
_O Imperador-Deus de Duna_ (ill. Victor Burton and Nelson Lopez,
transl. Jorge Luiz Calife, originally _God Emperor of Dune_),
(1986).
_Os Hereges de Duna_ (ill. Victor Burton, transl. Jorge Luiz
Calife, originally _Heretics of Dune_), (1987).
_As Herdeiras de Duna_ (ill. Victor Burton and Al McAllister,
transl. Martha Rodolfo Schmidt, originally _Chapterhouse:
Dune_), (1991).

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5.6.13 Rumanian

All six Dune novels have been translated to Rumanian. They were
published by Nemira Publishing between 1992 and 1997.

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5.6.14 Russian

All the Dune books have been translated into Russian. They are available
on-line at:

<http://moshkow.relline.ru:5000/win/HERBERT/>
<http://lib.ru/HERBERT/>

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5.6.15 Serbo-Croation

All the Dune books were published in the former Yugoslavia.

_Arakis_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally _Dune_ book 1,
"Dune"), Belgrade : Jugoslavija (1979), also Opatija : IRO
"Otokar Kersovani" (1986).
_Muad'Dib_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally _Dune_ book 2,
"Muad'Dib"), Belgrade : Jugoslavija (1979), also Opatija :
IRO "Otokar Kersovani" (1986).
_Prorok_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally _Dune_ book 3,
"The Prophet"), Belgrade : Jugoslavija (1979), also Opatija :
IRO "Otokar Kersovani" (1986).
ISBN: 86-385-0006-8
_Mesija_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally _Dune Messiah_),
Belgrade : Jugoslavija (1979), also Opatija : IRO "Otokar
Kersovani" (1986).
ISBN: 86-385-0007-6
_Deca Arakisa I_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally first half of
_Children of Dune_), Belgrade : Jugoslavija (1979), also
Opatija : IRO "Otokar Kersovani" (1986).
ISBN: 86-385-0008-4
_Deca Arakisa II_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally second half
of _Children of Dune_), Belgrade : Jugoslavija (1979), also
Opatija : IRO "Otokar Kersovani" (1986).
ISBN: 86-385-0008-4
_Bozanski Car Dine I_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally first
half of _God Emperor of Dune_), Belgrade : Independently
published (1983).
_Bozanski Car Dine II_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally second
half of _God Emperor of Dune_), Belgrade : Independently
published (1983).
_Jeretici Dine I_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally first half
of _Heretics of Dune_), Belgrade : Independently published
(1985).
_Jeretici Dine II_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally second half
of _Heretics of Dune_), Belgrade : Independently published
(1985).
_Kapitol: Dina I_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally first half
of _Chapterhouse: Dune_), Belgrade : Independently published
(1985).
_Kapitol: Dina II_ (transl. Zoran Zivkovic, originally second half
of _Chapterhouse: Dune_), Belgrade : Independently published
(1985).

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5.6.16 Spanish

All the Dune books have been translated to Spanish. So have many of
Frank Herbert's other novels, including _The Dragon and the Sea_ as _El
Dragón en el Mar_, _Destination: Void_ as _Destino: el Vacío_, _The Eyes
of Heisenberg as_Los Ojos de Heisenberg_, _The Santaroga Barrier_ as _La
Barrera Santaroga_, _The Godmakers_ as _Los Creadores de Dios_, _The
Dosadi Experiment_ as _El Experimento Dosadi_ and _The White Plague_ as
_La Peste Blanca_. Dune has also been translated into Catalan (see
below).

_Dune_ (transl. Domingo Santos, originally _Dune_), Barcelona :
Editorial Plaza y Janés.
ISBN: 84-01-46261-4
_El Mesias de Dune_ (transl. Domingo Santos, originally _Dune
Messiah_), Barcelona : Editorial Acervo (1976).
ISBN: 84-7002-200-8
_Hijos de Dune_ (transl. Domingo Santos, originally _Children of
Dune_), Barcelona : Editorial Acervo (1977).
ISBN: 84-7002-233-4
_Dios Emperador de Dune_ (transl. Montse Conill, originally _God
Emperor of Dune_), Barcelona : Ultramar Editores (1982).
ISBN: 84-7386-297-X
_Dios Emperador de Dune_ (transl. Domingo Santos, originally _God
Emperor of Dune_), Barcelona : Ultramar Editores (1989).
ISBN: 84-7386-365-8
_Herejes de Dune_ (transl. Domingo Santos, originally _Heretics of
Dune_), Barcelona : Ultramar Editores (1984).
ISBN: 84-7386-348-8
_Casa Capitular_ (transl. Domingo Santos, originally _Chapterhouse:
Dune_), Barcelona : Ultramar Editores (1985).
ISBN: 84-7386-369-0

Catalan:
_Duna_ (transl. Manuel de Seabra, originally _Dune_), Barcelona :
Edicions Pleniluni (1989).
ISBN: 84-85752-60-0

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5.6.17 Swedish

The first two volumes of the series have been translated to Swedish. So
has _The White Plague_, under the title _Vita Pesten_.

_Arrakis - Ökenplaneten_ (transl. Gabriel Setterborg, originally
_Dune_), Stockholm : Askild & Kärnekull (1982), also
Stockholm
: Legenda (1984, 1988) and Stockholm : Natur och Kultur
(1999).
_Ökenplanetens Messias_ (transl. Anders Stenström, originally
_Dune Messiah_), Stockholm : Legenda (1985).

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5.6.18 Turkish

The Dune novels up to and including _Heretics of Dune_ have been
published in Turkish.

_Col Gezegeni: Dune_ (transl. Arzu Tascioglu-Deniz Vural,
originally _Dune_), Sarmal Publications (1997).
_Dune Mesihi_ (transl. Arzu Tascioglu-Deniz Vural,
originally _Dune Messiah_), Sarmal Publications (1997).
_Dune'un Cocuklari_ (transl. Arzu Tascioglu-Deniz Vural,
originally _Children of Dune_), Sarmal Publications (1998).
_Dune'un Imparator Tanrisi_ (transl. Suha Sertabipoglu,
originally _God Emperor of Dune_), Sarmal Publications (1999).
_Dune'un Kafirleri_ (transl. Suha Sertabipoglu,
originally _Heretics of Dune_), Sarmal Publications (1999).

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5.7 Are there any differences between _Dune_ series editions?

Apart from cover art, typos and layout difference, these are the only
known differences between different editions of the _Dune_ series.
Additional and more specific information is always appreciated.

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5.7.1 _Dune_ first edition

Apparently, the first edition of _Dune_ lacked the appendices found in
all later editions of that book, with the exception of the Terminology
of the Imperium glossary (which is located at the beginning of the
book). Final confirmation on this point is still requested.

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5.7.2 _The Illustrated Dune_

_The Illustrated Dune_, Frank Herbert (ill. John Schoenherr), New
York : Berkley Pub. (1978, c1965).

_The Illustrated Dune_ was the first and is still the most fully
illustrated bound edition of _Dune_. It contains eight full-colour
paintings and 33 ink drawings, in addition to the cover and the standard
map.

The following is a list of all the paintings:
-Dawn at the Palace of Arrakeen
-Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
-The Sardaukar warriors
-The flight through the Shield Wall
-Paul Muad'Dib calling his first sandworm
-Stilgar and his men
-Paul administers the oath of the Fedaykin
-The defeat of the Sardaukar

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5.7.3 _Dune_ Easton Memorial Edition

_Dune_, Frank Herbert (ill. John Schoenherr), Norwalk, Conn. :
Easton Press Pub. (1987).

Memorial collector's edition that contains illustrations, collector's
notes and "Remembrances" by a number of science fiction writers. The
book reproduces the paintings and some (6) of the drawings from _The
Illustrated Dune_. The printing quality on the drawings is lower than in
_The Illustrated Dune_, but all things considered - leather binding,
gilt edges, paper quality, satin bookmark, silk lining and extra
material - this is definitely the deluxe Dune edition. (Be warned that
recent reprints of this edition have lacked the silk lining, and have
slight differences in binding and embossing font. They are otherwise
similar to the description above.)

The Memorial Edition is given as a bonus for those subscribing to the
"Masterpieces of Science Fiction" series. You can cancel at any time.

Easton Press
47 Richards Avenue
Norwalk, CT 06857
1-800-367-4534 (US and Canada callers)
1-203-855-8717 (All others)

The drawings included in this edition are:
-Lady Jessica introduces Paul to the Reverend Mother
-Jessica in the Weirding Room
-Dr. Liet-Kynes
-Paul and Jessica in a 'thopter
-The questing worm mouth seeks Paul and Jessica
-The Imperial tent
(For paintings, see the list for _The Illustrated Dune_.)

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5.7.4 _Dune: New Illustrated Edition_

_Dune_, Frank Herbert (ill. John Schoenherr), London :
Victor Gollancz (New Illustrated Edition 1999).
ISBN: 0-575-068566

This new illustrated edition of Dune reproduces only the paintings from
_The Illustrated Dune_, along with four not before seen (in book form,
that is. The twelve paintings in total correspond to the illustrations
of the 1978 Dune calendar). Hardcover with bookjacket.

This book can be ordered on-line:
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0575068566/>

The paintings included are:
-Alone on Arrakis
-Dawn at the Palace of Arrakeen
-Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
-The Sardaukar warriors
-Ceremony at the Tomb of the Skull
-Desert Nightmare
-The flight through the Shield Wall
-Sietch Tabr
-Paul Muad'Dib calling his first sandworm
-Stilgar and his men
-Paul administers the oath of the Fedaykin
-The defeat of the Sardaukar

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5.7.5 _Dune Messiah_

Early editions of _Dune Messiah_, as well as all New English Library
editions of that book, do not contain the first chapter "Excerpt from
the Death Cell interview with Bronso of IX," but rather a prologue
titled "The Weird of Dune."

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5.7.6 _Heretics of Dune_

Many editions of _Heretics of Dune_, including New English Library
editions and at least one G. Putnam's sons edition, lack the "When I was
writing Dune..." introduction.

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5.8 Are there any comics and illustrated books about Dune?

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5.8.1 Illustrated books

See subjects 5.3.4, 5.7.2, 5.7.3 and 5.7.4.

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5.8.2 Comic books

_Dune: The official Marvel Comics adaptation_, Ralph Macchio (after
the film by David Lynch, based on the novel by Frank Herbert,
art by Bill Sienkiewicz), New York : Marvel Comics
Group, distributed by Berkley (1984).
ISBN: 0-425-07623-7

Three versions of this comic exist. Marvel Super Special #36, one serial
published in three volumes, and the "book" above. The two albums have
different covers. Apart from cover art and printing quality, no
difference between these three publications is known.

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5.8.3 Foreign editions

Several foreign editions of the Dune Chronicles have been illustrated.
See subject 5.6.

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5.9 Can I get a signed copy of _The Dune Encyclopedia_?

Rumours of signed hardcover copies of the Dune Encyclopedia (DE) have
lately (98/12/19) been circulating on alt.fan.dune. Dr. Willis E.
McNelly, who compiled and edited the DE, denies ever having signed
anything but paperback copies.

ANY SIGNED HARDCOVER COPIES OF THE DUNE ENCYCLOPEDIA ARE FAKE!

However, Dr. McNelly has offered to provide Dune fans with an
opportunity to have their copies of the DE inscribed with a personalized
note (meaning that signed copies WITH a personalized note from now on
need not be fake). This is the information straight from Dr. McNelly:

"A local used book store manager (big SF fan) about half a mile way has
made the following suggestion based on what I did for him a few weeks
ago when he got a copy of the DE in and I signed it for him as his
personal copy.

If DE owners anywhere in the country want their copies signed by me,
they can be mailed to his bookstore:

The Book Baron,
1310 E. Chapman,
Fullerton, CA 92831.
Attention: Dr. Willis McNelly

The cost will be
1) $3.20 for the priority mail return postage, and
2) $7.00 for handling which includes the return envelope,
for a total of $10.20 US.

(Please note: ALL copies MUST be mailed registered, or via UPS, or some
other mail mechanism which can be tracked, or at least prove that a copy
*was* mailed to the bookstore. This is at Hitch's insistence; he is
concerned that some of the trolls that have dropped in from time to time
might claim that they mailed one, via regular mail, and try to get
"compensation" from me or the bookstore owner).

A return paste-on or stick-on address label MUST be included. He will
call me as they arrive and I will sign the books, with a personal
inscription, NOT a mere signature, and take them to the PO (100 yards
away) for mailing. I will use the free Priority Mail envelopes from the
PO, but the address label is a MUST."

Any further questions should be addressed to John Kenny
<jke...@bellsouth.net>, NOT to Dr. McNelly or the FAQ maintainer.

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1.1 Table of Contents

(The full Table of Contents is available in part 1)

PART 4

8. Questions about the games
8.1 What MU*s are there with a Dune theme?
8.2 How do I make these MU*s look right on my screen?
8.3 Are there any computer and video games about Dune?
8.4 Are there any board games about Dune?
8.5 Are there any collectible card games (CCGs/TCGs) about Dune?
8.6 Are there any role-playing games (RPGs) about Dune?
8.7 Are there any fan-created games about Dune?

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8. Questions about the games

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8.1 What MU*s are there with a Dune theme?

There are currently one MUSH, one MUX and one MUD that are known. See
subject 3.2.3 for game locations.

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8.1.1 Dune III MUSH

Dune III MUSH takes place in the year 10,091, one hundred years prior to
the opening of _Dune_. The game is open for role-play. For more
information, please look to:
<http://www.dune3.net/>

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8.1.2 Regent of Dune MUX

Regent of Dune MUX takes place in the year 10,210. The Emperor Paul
Muad'Dib has sacrificed himself to Shai-Hulud, in fulfilment of the
=46remen prophecy. His sister, Saint Alia-of-the-Knife, now rules the
universe as Regent to the Atreides Dynasty. Alia has commanded the
members of the entire Landsraad Assembly, as her noble subjects, to
reside in the Imperial Palace on Arrakis. By Alia's decree,
representatives of the Bene Gesserit, the Bene Tleilax, the Spacing
Guild, and Ix have also been ordered to relocate to Arrakeen.... The
universe, only recently emerging from eleven years of brutal warfare, is
in flux. The traditions of ten thousand years are being questioned by a
tribe of warriors from the desert: the Fremen. With all the universe
descending on Arrakeen, the inhabitants are awaiting the outcome of the
most ambitious social experiment in the history of mankind and you can
be a part of it.

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8.1.3 Dune MUD

Dune MUD is a hack-n-slash type of RPG. It takes place in an unspecified
time period in many locations within the known universe. Information
about this game can be found on:
<http://dune.servint.com>

=46or information about multi-user games in general, readers are directed
to the rec.games.mud.* hierarchy.

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8.2 How do I make these MU*s look right on my screen?

How to set your system up so that a MU* looks reasonable can be a tricky
puzzle, and because there are so many different configurations, I'll
just give some quick tips:

1. If you use a terminal program to dial an Internet account,
emulate a vt100 if at all possible. You may have to play with
your screen-wrap setting, as well. You'll know if you need it.
Screen-wrap can also be controlled within some telnet's.
2. Be sure your terminal setting matches your terminal. :)
3. If you're using telnet, you'll find that other players' typing
interferes with your typing, causing some strangeness on the
screen. This is inevitable, and unfortunate. The only solution
is a client program (see below).

The easiest way to defeat all screen problems is to compile a MU* client
program to use instead of telnet. The tinyfugue client is available by
anon-ftp from glia.biostr.washington.edu, /pub/tinyfugue. For more
information about clients, read the MUD FAQ in rec.games.mud.announce.

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8.3 Are there any computer and video games about Dune?

There are five readily available games for personal computers based on
_Dune_: Dune I, Dune II, Dune 2000, Emperor: Battle for Dune and Frank
Herbert's Dune. In addition to this, one more game is currently in
development by Cryonetworks ("Dune Generations").

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8.3.1 Dune I

Dune I (the "I" isn't part of the title, but is added for clarity) is a
graphic adventure game from 1992 based on both the book and the movie,
in which players take the role of Paul. Versions of the game were
released for PC DOS, Sega CD, Amiga and Acorn machines, at least. For
the CD, the floppy disc and CD version differ substantially: the CD
version includes footage from the film, and has spoken synchronised
voices for all the dialogue. Also, the landscapes and flying sequences
are more advanced, using 3-D texture mapping. There may finally be
differences in the soundtrack. Notice that the floppy disk version is
sometimes sold on CD. The Sega CD version is identical to the PC CD
version. Cryo released a soundtrack for the game under the label Exxos.
See subject 7.1.2. Here's a review of the game:

=46rom: bdu...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bill Dugan)
"Dune" is an adventure/strategy game for DOS computers, written by Cryo
and published and distributed by Virgin Games. There is a version that
ships on floppy disk and a version that ships on CD-ROM (recommended).
The game roughly follows the plot of the first "Dune" novel, though
there are a number of plot twists which were introduced, presumably to
let fans enjoy some unpredictability rather than plodding through a plot
they already know by heart. For instance, rather than suffering the
Betrayal, Duke Leto Atreides becomes angry and leads an expedition to
attack the Harkonnens and is captured.

As Paul Atreides, you must visit the Fremen sietches, gradually winning
their trust and building a power base. You must employ the Fremen to
mine spice, allowing you to send regular shipments to the Emperor to
satisfy his demands. Excess spice can be used to buy equipment from
smugglers. Eventually you can train more and more Fremen as troops
rather than as spice gatherers, and attack the Harkonnens, who land on
Dune to challenge your authority.

Dune contains elements of adventure games as well as strategy games. The
adventure game aspect: As Paul Atreides, you must visit many locations
and talk to characters, asking them to do things or giving them objects
to use. The strategy aspect focuses on the world map, where you assign
the Fremen to perform different tasks in different places -- at first by
physically visiting the Fremen and giving orders, and later by making
use of telepathy, a previously unknown gift of the Kwisatz Haderach. :)

Dune is an engrossing game. The game play is continually interesting,
with tidbits and new technology popping up now and then to renew
interest. The graphics are very good, with flights over a 3-D rendered
sandscape as you fly about in your ornithopter. The soundtrack is great
-- mesmerizing, played with weird instruments with a vaguely Arabic
feel. In the CD-ROM version, the pop-up heads of the characters (Duke
Leto, Jessica, Gurney, Hawat, Chani, Stilgar...) are lip-synched to the
audio of the characters talking to you. Good audio, and there are
touches of humor -- if you stand in the desert with Gurney and talk to
him, and he has nothing important to say, he just says, "It's cooler
inside, isn't it?" A sound card is recommended and almost required.

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8.3.2 Dune II

Dune II is also known by its subheadings: "Dune II: The Building of a
Dynasty" or "Dune II: The Battle for Arrakis". The Sega Genesis version
is also sometimes referred to as "Dune Genesis". The Genesis version is
slightly different from the PC DOS version, mainly in graphics and
interface.

=46rom: bdu...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bill Dugan)
Dune II is a very different type of game. It is a real-time tactical
strategy game, also for DOS computers. The game was also ported to the
Sega CD. It was written by Westwood Studios (now owned by Virgin/EA). It
is published and distributed by Virgin Games. You can play the Atreides,
the Harkonnens or the Ordos, another noble family. You start with a
primitive military base and spice harvester equipment. You have one
opponent, situated across the map from you. The map is colored black at
the beginning and becomes visible as your troops move into the unknown
areas of the board -- similar to "Empire" and all its descendants.

Dune II's uniqueness lies in its real-time nature. Unlike tactical
strategy games that make use of turn-based play, Dune II is real time.
That is, if your tanks are fighting enemy tanks in the southwest corner
of the map and you are viewing the battle closely in an effort to direct
the battle, you may be neglecting the manufacture of replacement troops
back at your base, or a worm may be eating one of your sandcrawlers up
at the north end of the map. Just as in real life, you can only focus
your attention on one thing at a time.

After you finish the whole game there is still some replay value; you
can switch to the two other families, which have other types of troops
available. After you play the noble Atreides, as all Dune fans surely
will :), you can start over as the Harkonnens with their "Devastator"
tanks, or as the Ordos with their special chemical weapon that
brainwashes enemy troops into accepting your orders for a short time.

Dune II is published by Westwood Studios, distributed by Virgin Games.
It was originally published in 1992.

Dune II: The Battle for Arrakis - Official FAQ by S.E.Pollitt is
available by e-mail from <sepo...@teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au> or by
anonymous ftp from:
<ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/msdos/games/romulus/hints>

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8.3.3 Dune 2000

Dune 2000 is an updated version of Dune II, released by Virgin/EA under
the Westwood label. It was published in 1998, and the technology of the
game is brought more or less up to the contemporary standard. Graphics
are now in higher resolution and more colours, music is higher quality,
etc. The interface has gone through the biggest development, and is very
much like that of "Red Alert." Although the basic gameplay remains the
same, new features and units have been added. The levels are completely
new. The game follows the story from Dune II roughly, but this time told
in video scenes. The main selling point of Dune 2000, however, is
probably the addition of multiplayer options. This game is widely
available. A version for Sony Playstation was released in 1999. For more
information, see:
<http://westwood.ea.com/>

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8.3.4 Emperor: Battle for Dune

The latest RTS game from Westwood, and their first in 3D. Emperor was
released in June 2001, continuing the gameplay and story from Dune II
and Dune 2000. For more information, see the official Web site:
<http://www.duneemperor.com>

I personally recommend:
<http://www.dune2k.com>

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8.3.5 Frank Herbert's Dune

This action/adventure game was developed by Wide Screen Games by Cryo in
December 2001. For more information, see the official Web site:
<http://dune.cryogame.com/>

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8.3.6 Dune Generations

An online strategy game determined to follow Frank Herbert's novels more
accurately than Westwood's licence, Dune Generations is currently
predicted for a First Quarter 2002 release. The game is being developed
by Cryonetworks, a French company (they do not appear to have anything
to do with Cryo). For more information, see the official Web site:
<http://www.dunegenerations.com/>

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8.4 Are there any board games about Dune?

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8.4.1 Avalon Hill

In 1979, Avalon Hill made a board game called "Dune", which has since
gone out of print in English (though a French language edition is still
floating around, and can be ordered in the US from Eurogames), but old
copies can sometimes still be found. It is reportedly quite enjoyable.
The game exists in two versions, one with a big sandworm on the cover,
and one with a scene from a village with a red-haired man, looking like
Sting playing Feyd-Rautha in the 1984 movie, in the foreground. And
right enough, this version was released around the time of the movie.
There are no known differences between the two editions (confirmation of
this would be appreciated). Two modules, "The Duel" and "Spice Harvest,"
were issued at the same time as the second version, and additional
playing cards were printed in Avalon Hill's gaming magazine, the
General.

LIN...@SARA.NL (Rick te Lindert) writes:
Well, I own a French version, and it has a 1992 copyright. So my
assumption is that it is new, and that there used to be no French
version before '92. The French game company is called Jeux Descartes,
and its full address is:

1, rue du Colonel Pierre Avia
75503 Paris Cedex 15

Noteworthy is the fact that the French version contains both modules
(Duel and Spice Harvest) that were separately issued for the original
Avalon Hill version.

r...@aol.com (Richard Irving) writes:
Looks like you need a basic description of the game:

Dune is played with 6 players (the game can handle 5 reasonably well. 4
or fewer players is not recommended.) The games was designed by a group
known as Future Pastimes, who also designed Cosmic Encounter. Many
elements are shared in both games--Dune is basically Cosmic with a map
board.

Each player represents a faction vying for control of Dune. It
reasonably simulates the political situation at the start of Dune. In
the game of Dune: Spice =3D Water =3D Money literally.

The game is played in turn with each of these six phases:
1) Storm Round: The storm is moved around the board counterclockwise up
to six spaces (determined randomly). Any tokens (i.e. troops) and spice
in desert areas swept over by the storm, and removed from the board.
2) Spice Blow: A Spice Card is drawn. If it is a territory card, an
amount of spice blows in that territory. The spice is now available for
pickup. If a worm card is drawn, any tokens or spice left at the last
Spice Blow site are destroyed by the worm. Also alliances can be
formed/changed or broken when a worm card is drawn.
3) Bidding Round: The players will bid (sight unseen) to acquire
Treachery cards. These cards are used in battle (weapons/defenses) or
allow special actions (Weather Control, Family Atomics, Karama,
Truthtrances, etc.) or are sometimes worthless (Jubba Cloak, Trip to
Gamont)
4) Revival/Movement/Shipping: Each player may revive dead tokens from
the Tleilaxu tanks and move one group of tokens on planet and ship one
group of tokens from off planet to the board
5) Battle: If two player end the movement round in the same area, they
must fight. This is done by having each player select secretly:
- A number of tokens (This is done by choosing a number on the combat
wheel)
- A leader disc. (Which have a numerical value. Good leaders, Stilgar
have values of about 7. Poor leaders, like Dr. Yueh are worth only 1.)
- Weapon and/or a defense ( Worthless cards may be substituted for
these.)

The winner of the battle is the side with the higher total of number
dialed plus the vaule of their leader, if the leader survived.

The leader is killed if the opponent plays a weapon (projectile, poison
or Lasgun) and the appropriate defense (shield or snooper) is not
played. The winner loses the number of tokens he dialed. The loser loses
all of his tokens (even if he dialed less). The leaders are lost only if
killed. The winner receives spice from the leaders that are killed.

There are two other things to note:
- If a Lasgun and Shield are both played in the same battle, they blow
up destroying everything in the area.
- At the beginning of the game, each faction chooses a leader of another
faction (the choices are randomly drawn at the start) to be a traitor to
him. If the traitorous leader is played in the battle, that side
automatically loses and winner takes no losses.

6) Spice Collection: After all battles, any factions that have tokens in
the same area as spice may harvest it at the rate of 2 spice per token.

The object of the game is control any 3 or the 5 "Strongholds"
(Arrakeen, Carthag and 3 sietches) at the end of any turn. When playing
with alliances, many people increase the number of strongholds needed
for the win.

What makes the game work, though, are the powers each faction has which
allows the faction special abilities:
- Atreides (Prescience): May look at Treachery cards before they are bid
on and spice blow card a turn early. May ask one element of the
opponent's battle plans.
- Bene Gesserit (Voice and religion): Gets a free "religious advisor"
sent down with other player's shipments to the planet and alms. In
battle, may voice the opponent into using (or not using) a particular
weapon or defense. Make a secret prophecy on who will win and what
turn--If correct they win, not the presumptive winner. Can "co-exist"
without causing battle. May use worthless cards as Karama cards.
- Emperor (wealth): gets all spice paid by the other players in the
bidding round. (This means he should NEVER run out of money.) Has 5
Sardaukar tokens which are worth double in battle (except vs. Fremen).
- Fremen (Native knowledge): May move 2 spaces, not just 1. Rides worm
instead of being eaten. Survives storm and gets a forecast (by drawing
the amount it will go a turn a head) 3 Fedaykin double strength tokens.
"Ships" tokens from far side of Dune and thus avoids having to pay the
Guild.
- Guild (Shipping): All other players (except Fremen and free BG
advisors) must pay the Guild to ship to the planet. The Guild pays half
rates to the bank and may ship from one on planet location to another.
May perform his turn at any time in the turn order, rather than wait for
his regular turn. Will also win if he prevents anyone else from winning
for 15 turns.
- Harkonnen (Treachery): Gets free treachery cards when he wins a card
in bidding. Is allowed to hold extra treachery cards. Selects up to 4
leaders to be traitors, not just one. After winning battles, may
randomly kidnap an opposing leader who is either forced to be used for
one battle or sold immediately to the tanks.

What makes the game so great is the delicate balance-of- power. Often
times, each player is forced to prevent someone else from winning.
Wonderful game.

The Duel adds kanly duels and the War of Assassins. Each player has to
risk a leader in each of these events and the other players can bet on
the outcome. Each battle is fought on a separate arena board with cards
that represent various attacks/feints/moves, etc.

Spice Harvest adds a minigame to mix up the standard opening positions.
One player (harvest master) secretly determines and secretly distributes
a spice harvest. (He can distribute less than full amount and keep the
remainder for himself) The other players either accept their share or
may dispute the distribution. If the distribution was honest (or at
least majority think it was honest), the harvest master keeps the
disputed shares. If it was dishonest and a majority of players dispute
it, the disputing parties get the disputed amount and the harvest
masters cut to split among themselves and elect a new harvest master.
After 5 rounds, the players buy either numbers of tokens and a specific
starting location and keep any spice left over.

Response to the expansions is mixed. Some players enjoy them. Others
(like myself) think they add length to an already long game and harm the
finely tuned balance of the game.

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8.4.2 Parker Bros.

Parker Bros. also released a Dune game, released in connection with the
movie. sa...@htonight.jpl.nasa.gov (Dean St.Antoine) writes:

Dune Adventure game - by Parker Brothers (C)1984
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Object: To eliminate all enemy characters and be the only player to have
at least one character remaining at the end of the game. Use your Spice,
Harvesters, Kanly cards, and Equipment cards to assist you in reaching
this ultimate role.

The game board represents the water-starved planet of Dune. The spaces
that form the inner circle of the board represent the castle of the
rulers of Dune. The spaces surrounding the outer walls of the castle
represent the hazardous sand-covered terrain of Dune.

Castle Spaces: Space Guild, Smuggler, Traitor, Bene Gesserit, Poison,
Spice raid, and Training.

Desert spaces: Sietch, Spice, Duel, Worm and Sand Storm.

All in all this board game is worth having if you are a true Dune fan.
It's a 2 to 4 player game with players playing a 3-character group.

1) Paul Atreides, Gurney Halleck, Duke Leto Atreides.
2) Beast Rabban, Baron Harkonnen, Feyd-Rautha.
3) Sardaukar Warrior, Princess Irulan, Emperor Shaddam IV.
4) Dr. Kynes, Stilgar, Chani.

The pieces are quite nice and have each person's picture in the middle.
The spice is represented by the plastic pieces used in the game "Risk".
The game is based on the motion picture _Dune_. Pick this game up if you
find one. :)

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8.5 Are there any collectible card games (CCGs/TCGs) about Dune?

Yes, Last Unicorn Games produced a collectible card game (trading card
game: TCG) called "Dune: Eye of the Storm," released by Five Rings
Publishing Group Inc. It has now been cancelled

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8.6 Are there any role-playing games (RPGs) about Dune?

A Dune GURPS (Generic Universal Role Playing System) campaign has been
produced and put on-line at:
<http://www.erinyes.org/gurps/dune/>

A French fanzine called TMT has made a Dune-based RPG to be found at:
<http://dune.jdr.free.fr/indexbis.htm>

A Dune (and particularly _God Emperor of Dune_) fan has set up some
rules for an RPG called "The Fish Speaker":
<http://www.geocities.com/thefishspeaker/>

The company that produced the Dune CCG, Last Unicorn Games, also made a
Dune RPG: "Dune: Chronicles of the Imperium." This game was released in
a limited edition at GenCon 2000. However, Last Unicorn Games were
bought by Wizards of the Coast, and the game was finally cancelled. The
core rulebook was to be followed by a narrator's guide, sourcebooks and
scripted games. Sadly, these will now never be. The GenCon edition is
sometimes for sale on auction sites, but expect to pay a hefty price as
it is very much a collectors item.

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8.7 Are there any fan-created games about Dune?

Yes. Apart from the MU*s already mentioned, Ty Beard has created a
miniatures game called "A Fistful of Sardaukar". It is available on his
website:
<http://www.tyler.net/tbeard/home.htm>

Samo has made a wargame called "Dune: The Spice War". It can be viewed
on his homepage:
<http://space.tin.it/internet/samosa/samogames/index.htm>

Community online games in a Dune setting come and go. These are some
that are currently active:

Dune: The Next Chapter
<http://www.dunethenextchapter.com/>
Dune: Jihad
<http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dunejihadrpg>
Arrakis - Dune
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arrakis-Dune/>
Dune Online RPG
<http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/duneonlinerpg>
Dune Online RPG Arrakis
<http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/duneonlinerpgarrakis>

If you know of any other Dune games made by fans, please contact me.

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