Cardcaptor Sakura in France
Makkers
live in the UK)
Not only is CCS out on VHS up to Episode 12, but the *entire* manga is out
(I think, I counted 12 volumes... if there are more, please correct me)
I didn't want to spoil the story and get Vol 12, but I did get the VHS vol 4
for comparison with the original.
Surnames have changed (couldn't catch the new ones, Sakura's was only
mentioned once, for the Flower Card, no other surnames were mentioned in the
episodes 10-12, Flower, Shield and Time....)
Tomoyo has become Tiffany
Toya has become Thomas (sounds like Toya with a French accent, so no probs)
Yukito has become Matthew (?!)
That's all I could make out on my first viewing
One annoyance I had with the French version is that Sakura sounds docile
when capturing Cards:
"Return to the form you were meant to be Clow Card. This Sakura commands
under the covenant" (My interpretation from the French - any better ones are
appreciated)
Her voice is too calm and cool in comparison to "Return to the form you were
meant to be - *Clow Card!!!*", in a determined voice.
Even the incantation for the sealing staff is tame - "liberate your powers"
(almost whispered IMO) compared to "*Release!*" (said with determination,
life etc.)
Well, it's a small price to pay, especially since the episodes are uncut and
the order is faithful to the Japanese original. (but since I have a PAL VCR,
SECAM comes out in B/W (Boo!))
I envy the French!
--
Makkers
Princess Neko Tsukimi
>live in the UK)
>
>Not only is CCS out on VHS up to Episode 12, but the *entire* manga is out
>(I think, I counted 12 volumes... if there are more, please correct me)
>I didn't want to spoil the story and get Vol 12, but I did get the VHS vol 4
>for comparison with the original.
>
Ahh, I would adore having the manga in French since I read French extrememly
well ^_^
>Surnames have changed (couldn't catch the new ones, Sakura's was only
>mentioned once, for the Flower Card, no other surnames were mentioned in the
>episodes 10-12, Flower, Shield and Time....)
>
>Tomoyo has become Tiffany
Awwwwwwwww, she looks and sounds like a Tiffany ^_^;;;; I'm surprised they gave
her such a sophisticated name in the English dub.
>Toya has become Thomas (sounds like Toya with a French accent, so no probs)
Nice ^_^
>Yukito has become Matthew (?!)
Hmm, he looks like a Matthew... what was his name in the English dub???
>That's all I could make out on my first viewing
>
>One annoyance I had with the French version is that Sakura sounds docile
>when capturing Cards:
>
>"Return to the form you were meant to be Clow Card. This Sakura commands
>under the covenant" (My interpretation from the French - any better ones are
>appreciated)
::giggles:: Sounds a little.... not Sakura-ish...
>Her voice is too calm and cool in comparison to "Return to the form you were
>meant to be - *Clow Card!!!*", in a determined voice.
Oh really???
>Even the incantation for the sealing staff is tame - "liberate your powers"
>(almost whispered IMO) compared to "*Release!*" (said with determination,
>life etc.)
Hmmm, I go around yelling "RELEASu!" a little too much...
>Well, it's a small price to pay, especially since the episodes are uncut and
>the order is faithful to the Japanese original. (but since I have a PAL VCR,
>SECAM comes out in B/W (Boo!))
>I envy the French!
Yeah... they've got it good when it comes to anime...
Neko-chan
http://www.nekotsukimi.f2s.com
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Kevin Pack
> I'm a seasoned CCS fan, and I've just come back from
> a holiday in France (I live in the UK)
>
> Not only is CCS out on VHS up to Episode 12, but the
> *entire* manga is out (I think, I counted 12 volumes... if
> there are more, please correct me) I didn't want to
> spoil the story and get Vol 12, but I did get the VHS vol
> 4 for comparison with the original.
Hi Makkers,
In Spain, only the first volume of the manga has been
released so far and the VHS tapes haven't started yet.
--
Kevin Pack
www.angelic-layer.co.uk
ke...@angelic-layer.co.uk
Ben-San Arizona
pounder in France" sequence from Pulp Fiction with CCS trivia now.
Probably it just means I need to get more sleep.
--Ben-San Arizona
"Oh, yeah? So what do they call Davis in France, then?"
"I dunno. I didn't watch Digimon."
Makkers
> "Makkers" <j.ma...@ic24.net> wrote in message news:Pyo47.1694$Bp3.36958@news2-hme0...
> In Spain, only the first volume of the manga has been
> released so far and the VHS tapes haven't started yet.
How about the UK?
I wonder when Cardcaptors will appear on ITV?
I hope not on any digital channel)
My brother reckons it will be screened during the summer holidays,
since that was when Pokémon was first screened.
However, I haven't seen any news on the net lately since the public
statement form Nelvana.
Any news would be welcome!
---
Makkers at work
Little nemo 212
>I wonder when Cardcaptors will appear on ITV?
>I hope not on any digital channel)
>My brother reckons it will be screened during the summer holidays,
>since that was when Pokémon was first screened.
>However, I haven't seen any news on the net lately since the public
>statement form Nelvana.
>Any news would be welcome!
Well, I'm a resident of the UK (::shudders::), and I know as much as you about
it being shown on ITV......
CITV haven't hinted in any way that they're going to put it on; maybe they are
going to surprise the audience and suddenly put it on during the summer
break...
I personally won't be watching it, though......since I'll end up getting used
to calling Tomoyo Madison and Yukito Julian, and that simply cannot
happen...^_^
So, I'll just import DVDs...
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nemo
Little Nemo's Ryokan is open for business - http://www.littlenemo.f2s.com/
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Miss Fox
"Makkers" <mak...@supanet.com> wrote in message
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I didn't see the public statement from Nelvana! (Haven't got round to
locating all CCS-relevant sites yet!) Is this on an official homepage?
Perhaps you could give me a link so I can check this info out, or maybe tell
me roughly what it said? I'd certainly like Cardcaptors to be back on UK
television - I know it's been, erm *pruned*, but it'll keep me going till
I've got my new computer (w/DVD) & credit card, and can order the REAL thing
online!
Oooh, aren't the French lucky compared with us in the UK. Mind you, at
least we're not in Spain - only one volume of the manga so far???
Miss Fox, clutching her kawaii new Sakura doll, complete with cats-ears
hairband
Makkers
> I didn't see the public statement from Nelvana! (Haven't got round to
> locating all CCS-relevant sites yet!) Is this on an official homepage?
> Perhaps you could give me a link so I can check this info out, or maybe tell
> me roughly what it said? I'd certainly like Cardcaptors to be back on UK
> television - I know it's been, erm *pruned*, but it'll keep me going till
> I've got my new computer (w/DVD) & credit card, and can order the REAL thing
> online!
Bad news: After digging through the mess of my newsgroup archive, I
eventually dug out the URL of that press statement: Error404!
(http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010220/nelvana_new_lineup.html)
Previously, there was a statement that ITV and Nickelodeon UK had
obtained rights for broadcasting Cardcaptors from Nelvana. There were
no details as to when the show would be screened.
> Oooh, aren't the French lucky compared with us in the UK. Mind you, at
> least we're not in Spain - only one volume of the manga so far???
> Miss Fox, clutching her kawaii new Sakura doll, complete with cats-ears
> hairband
BTW, I forgot to mention the worst part of the French version of CCS -
The opening/end theme. It sounds like the Digimon dub (second series,
when the digidestined warp from the normal to the digital world) - I
was so "un-sakura", and did not suit the series at all (IMHO)!
--
Makkers (at work)
Ant
<bensan_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ..maybe it's just me, but I can't help envisioning the "quarter
>pounder in France" sequence from Pulp Fiction with CCS trivia now.
"You know what gets me most about Cardcaptors? It's the little
differences."
"Explain."
"Well in Japan, Keroberos is a fearsome tiger. In America, he's a
funny little mouse." *
* - I know he isn't. This is a homage to something funny that someone
mentioned earlier. :-)
Miss Fox
> "Miss Fox" <f...@FoxtrotOscar.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> > I didn't see the public statement from Nelvana! (Haven't got round to
> > locating all CCS-relevant sites yet!) Is this on an official homepage?
> > Perhaps you could give me a link so I can check this info out, or maybe
tell
> > me roughly what it said? I'd certainly like Cardcaptors to be back on
UK
> > television - I know it's been, erm *pruned*, but it'll keep me going
till
> > I've got my new computer (w/DVD) & credit card, and can order the REAL
thing
> > online!
>
> Bad news: After digging through the mess of my newsgroup archive, I
> eventually dug out the URL of that press statement: Error404!
> (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010220/nelvana_new_lineup.html)
> Previously, there was a statement that ITV and Nickelodeon UK had
> obtained rights for broadcasting Cardcaptors from Nelvana. There were
> no details as to when the show would be screened.
Thanks very much for trying, anyway, Makkers! And thanks for giving us the
general gist of the statement.
Miss Fox and Chibi-Fox, suffering from Sakura-withdrawal symptoms!
Kevin Pack
> > Oooh, aren't the French lucky compared with us in the UK.
> > Mind you, at least we're not in Spain - only one volume of
> > the manga so far???
But at least they had Cardcaptor Sakura on TV and not the
Nelvana hack job like we had.
Kevin Pack
news:3b97...@opticon1-640.the-server.com...
> If you guys wanna see the manga in english you can
> download them from: http://sakurascans.cjb.net she
> scanned and translated all 12 volumes. And yes,
> Makkers, You counted right. 12 volumes. She did a
> fantastic job! Please thank her.
Or alternatively you could support the creators by buying
the official English translation from Mixx. This is also
available in other languages. They are usually available
for purchase on the internet from your local branch of
Amazon.
--
Kevin Pack
www.angelic-layer.co.uk
www.cardcaptors.co.uk
ke...@angelic-layer.co.uk
Hana Yori Dango
> > download them from: http://sakurascans.cjb.net she
> > scanned and translated all 12 volumes. And yes,
> > Makkers, You counted right. 12 volumes. She did a
> > fantastic job! Please thank her.
>
> Or alternatively you could support the creators by buying
> the official English translation from Mixx. This is also
> available in other languages. They are usually available
> for purchase on the internet from your local branch of
> Amazon.
Don't talk crap. I'm off to go get those manga scans ^^;
Miki no Miko
> "Brandon Lis" <brand...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:3b97...@opticon1-640.the-server.com...
> > If you guys wanna see the manga in english you can
> > download them from: http://sakurascans.cjb.net she
> > scanned and translated all 12 volumes. And yes,
> > Makkers, You counted right. 12 volumes. She did a
> > fantastic job! Please thank her.
>
> Or alternatively you could support the creators by buying
> the official English translation from Mixx. This is also
> available in other languages. They are usually available
> for purchase on the internet from your local branch of
> Amazon.
Or you could get the bilingual ones, not read Mixx's crap, and still be
supporting the creators.
--
Jen
Kevin Pack
Yes I agree, they are vastly superior but a little harder for
some people to find.
Makkers
<Snip>
> >
> > Or you could get the bilingual ones, not read Mixx's crap,
> > and still be supporting the creators.
>
> Yes I agree, they are vastly superior but a little harder for
> some people to find.
Not to mention slightly more expensive (in the UK anyway)
In London (where I live) I managed to find the bilingual manga in the
Japanese Center (Picadilly Circus) and at the really great bookshop in the
Oriental City shopping center in Collindale! I'll be buying the entire
series from there (and support the creators ^_^)!
Anyway, is it my newsgroup reader or is there no discussion of Cardcaptors
in the UK here? In UMAA I've seen a pretty measly discussion as well!
Having seen Eps 1, 3 and 5, I have to say I completely understand what
everyone has said negatively about the american dub of this great series!
"Sakooora" really does sound like a teenage (as in 16-17 years old)
trouble-maker. Isn't she supposed to be in grade school??? It seems she
cannot be polite in any circumstance.
In Ep 1, there's no explanation why she wants to be tall and squish her
brother, so it doesn't make sense. In Ep3, the whole idea of "allies" and
limiting which cards to use also makes no sense. Kero's corner isn't too
bad ^_^, but it really does seem that Nelvana did a rushed job and didn't
polish things like selecting good voice actors/actresses and, more
importantly, ensuring the series makes sense before releasing! I'm glad
that ITV decided to show the series starting with "One Fateful Day" and not
"Sakura's Rival", otherwise it would be even more confusing!
Also, the BGM just doesn't suit the situations at times - Catching the Jump
card for example. The BGM sounded as if Sakura was fighting the Terminator
for crying out loud! The Jump falling over backwards is supposed to be
comical, not suspense!
I don't mind the cuts too much, but they sometimes confuse the story.
Although I'm a close follower of the original, I tried very hard to watch
this version with an open mind. I suppose I'll continue to watch it, but
Sakura just isn't cute in the Nelvana version :-(voices play a large part in
my conception of cute :-)
--
Makkers
Kevin Pack
translators remove this sort of thing once an official
release is being made available in their language.
Surely we should be supporting CLAMP and thanking
them for creating such a great series. The best way to
do this is to buy licenced products and "suggest" that
other people do the same.
I feel this is quite an important issue, and could be an
interesting topic of discussion. What do other people
think?
What would be the best way to support CLAMP and
Cardcaptor Sakura? Is it OK to get your anime and
Manga for free on the internet when you can buy it
(with a little work) in the real world?
Galen Musbach
Volumes 7-12 aren't available yet;
I want my fix, and I want it now!
-Galen
>
> --
> Kevin Pack
> www.angelic-layer.co.uk
> www.cardcaptors.co.uk
> ke...@angelic-layer.co.uk
>
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Eevee
> "Miki no Miko" <Moonbr...@aol.sucks.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Kevin Pack" <pa...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:ZGOl7.22679$y_3.1...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> > > "Brandon Lis" <brand...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3b97...@opticon1-640.the-server.com...
> > > > If you guys wanna see the manga in english you can
> > > > download them from: http://sakurascans.cjb.net she
> > > > scanned and translated all 12 volumes. And yes,
> > > > Makkers, You counted right. 12 volumes. She did a
> > > > fantastic job! Please thank her.
> > >
> > > Or alternatively you could support the creators by buying
> > > the official English translation from Mixx. This is also
> > > available in other languages. They are usually available
> > > for purchase on the internet from your local branch of
> > > Amazon.
> >
> > Or you could get the bilingual ones, not read Mixx's crap,
> > and still be supporting the creators.
Question for Miki no Miko - why (in detail, preferably) do you think Mixx's
translations of the manga are crap? I haven't yet read the bilingual manga,
but do remember reading a review of it somewhere that suggested that the
translations there weren't up to much, that their main purpose seemed to be
helping Japanese readers to learn a little English. Now, for all I know,
the reviewer could have been talking tripe, has been known. So, I'd be very
interested to know your thoughts on both translations. (Other people's
views also most welcome!)
Eevee, just got her Cardcaptor Sakura DVDs this morning, yippeeeeee!
Eevee
>
> Surely we should be supporting CLAMP and thanking
> them for creating such a great series. The best way to
> do this is to buy licenced products and "suggest" that
> other people do the same.
>
> I feel this is quite an important issue, and could be an
> interesting topic of discussion. What do other people
> think?
>
> What would be the best way to support CLAMP and
> Cardcaptor Sakura? Is it OK to get your anime and
> Manga for free on the internet when you can buy it
> (with a little work) in the real world?
>
support CLAMP by buying the licensed products, but in practice, it can be
difficult. Financially, for starters. It's not just a matter of "a little
work" - I know plenty of people who work 7 days a week just to make ends
meet/support their families. Many of those that I'm talking about would
really struggle to get a better paid job. So, what option for them? Tape
it off the TV or download the subs. Or just miss out on having own copy of
the anime. Ditto anyone living on permanent disability benefit who is
simply unable to do a job. As I said, supporting CLAMP (or the creators of
any other anime/manga) is a very worthy ideal, but sadly, we do not live in
an ideal world.
Lots more I could add, but I'll leave it at this for now, rather than muddy
things with umpteen other issues.
Galen Musbach
"Eevee" <f...@FoxtrotOscar.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> > "Miki no Miko" <Moonbr...@aol.sucks.com> wrote in message
> news:O3hm7.14575$151.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> Question for Miki no Miko - why (in detail, preferably) do you think
Mixx's
> translations of the manga are crap? I haven't yet read the bilingual
manga,
> but do remember reading a review of it somewhere that suggested that the
> translations there weren't up to much, that their main purpose seemed to
be
> helping Japanese readers to learn a little English. Now, for all I know,
> the reviewer could have been talking tripe, has been known. So, I'd be
very
> interested to know your thoughts on both translations. (Other people's
> views also most welcome!)
>
> Eevee, just got her Cardcaptor Sakura DVDs this morning, yippeeeeee!
>
>
has a few comparison scans from the
Mixx and Bilingual editions.
My own opinion is that Mixx is doing a respectable job
with this title, and that each of their current projects
should be judged on its own merits; holding grudges
benefits none of us.
-Galen
Miki no Miko
Mixx's
> translations of the manga are crap?
Mixx is fairly well-known for crap. Their translations are often quite
'liberal,' which is of course the polite way to say that they suck.
--
Jen
Little nemo 212
>> interesting topic of discussion. What do other people
>> think?
Yay!!!!!!! Complex discussion!!! ::claps hands:: ^_^
>> What would be the best way to support CLAMP and
>> Cardcaptor Sakura? Is it OK to get your anime and
>> Manga for free on the internet when you can buy it
>> (with a little work) in the real world?
Well, like Eevee said, it really depends on how financially well-off people
are. Things are made all the more difficult for non-US CCS fans, who have to
import anime and manga as opposed to finding it in their local comic store or
Suncoast....
>I know plenty of people who work 7 days a week just to make ends
>meet/support their families. Many of those that I'm talking about would
>really struggle to get a better paid job. So, what option for them? Tape
>it off the TV or download the subs. Or just miss out on having own copy of
>the anime. Ditto anyone living on permanent disability benefit who is
>simply unable to do a job.
I have yet to purchase my CCS DVDs yet (what kind of a fan am i??!! -
^^;;;;;;;;;), since I'm more or less a student, and finding work that fits
around my classes is harder than it sounds. However I refuse to watch, let
alone tape, the Cardcaptors series runs on ITV or Nick, simply because they
aren't the real thing/original show.......guess that could be led to something
else to talk about which is sort of in the same topic as Kevin started....
Cardcaptors is a cartoon by a North American production company, who 'borrowed'
clips from a cartoon by a Japanese animation company and made for a Japanese
audience, jumbled them together to make workable episodes of their own, changed
voices, changed storylines and changed character names to better suit the
Western audience......but of course, nearly everyone here knew that already -
^^;;;;
If Cardcaptors was 'made' by a North American company, then how can we support
CLAMP by taping the Nelvana shows? I may be streaming off into my own little
topic here...so let's back to topic ^_^
>As I said, supporting CLAMP (or the creators of
>any other anime/manga) is a very worthy ideal, but sadly, we do not live in
>an ideal world.
Oh yeah......living in Japan where CCS stuff is ten times more accessible: that
would be the ideal way to support CLAMP...but since we don't, we can't...
So really, my answer is: we probably would support CLAMP if we could, but we
can't, so we don't...
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nemo
http://www.littlenemo.f2s.com/
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Eevee
"Galen Musbach" <musb...@xtn.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
> http://pages.xtn.net/~musbachgj/Sakura/
> has a few comparison scans from the
> Mixx and Bilingual editions.
>
> My own opinion is that Mixx is doing a respectable job
> with this title, and that each of their current projects
> should be judged on its own merits; holding grudges
> benefits none of us.
>
> -Galen
Thank you very much for the link, Galen! And I definitely agree with you
that holding grudges doesn't benefit any of us. For me, the translated
manga was a real eye-opener, after seeing the Cardcaptors dub, and it
fuelled my desire to get hold of the subbed anime. <Looks longingly at the
pile of freshly-arrived DVD subs>
Eevee
Eevee
OK, have just seen a comparison of a few pages of the Mixx translation v the
bilingual manga. [Thanks, Galen!] It's part of the Sports Day scene, where
Tomoyo and Sakura are talking about Nadesico, and Sakura's Dad and Sonomi
likewise. It's also the bit where Tomoyo, in an aside, comments on the fact
that Sakura might not realise just how much she (Tomoyo) loves/likes her.
Although the two translations don't tally completely, the Mixx translation
doesn't seem to lose the general gist of things. This, of course, is just a
sample that I have seen. The one problem I can see I would have with the
bilingual manga is that I am not used to reading from right to left across
the page, and it would take a little while for me to adjust to the fact that
the artwork hasn't been reversed from the Japanese original, and get used to
scanning across each page (effectively) backwards!
I imagine you can already read Japanese fairly well - I'm just a beginner.
Only when I am actually able to read Japanese properly will I REALLY be able
to decide for myself on how good or bad a translation is.
Eevee, feel free to disagree with me: everyone has - and is entitled to -
their own opinions!
Little nemo 212
>> benefits none of us.
>>
>> -Galen
>
>Thank you very much for the link, Galen! And I definitely agree with you
>that holding grudges doesn't benefit any of us.
::shakes head repeatedly and screams:: no no no no no no no!!!!!
Me no want grudges!!!!!!! I had enough of them in my Final Fantasy and Tenchi
Muyo newsgroups......so now, this is the only NG I visit now ::sniffs::..
Eevee
Eevee
> >> benefits none of us.
> >>
> >> -Galen
> >
> >Thank you very much for the link, Galen! And I definitely agree with you
> >that holding grudges doesn't benefit any of us.
>
> ::shakes head repeatedly and screams:: no no no no no no no!!!!!
>
> Me no want grudges!!!!!!! I had enough of them in my Final Fantasy and
Tenchi
> Muyo newsgroups......so now, this is the only NG I visit now ::sniffs::..
Awwwww! (Hands Little Nemo a hankie) This newsgroup is still pretty small
and friendly, and I hope it stays a pleasant place to be. You weren't in
one of the Final Fantasy newsgroups that got over-run by big-league trolls,
were you?
Right, 'tis my turn to do some sniffing! I now have my Cardcaptor Sakura
DVDs, but guess what? The repair-people STILL haven't got the replacement
motherboard in for my new computer, which is where my one and only DVD
player happens to be, so I can't watch my Cardcaptor Sakura subs until about
the middle of next week! It's sooooo frustrating! I've read all about the
changes between original and dub, but I can't wait to actually SEE the
original for myself!
Eevee, wondering what happened to the wonderful after-sales service the
computer people promised her... sigh!
Little nemo 212
>and friendly, and I hope it stays a pleasant place to be. You weren't in
>one of the Final Fantasy newsgroups that got over-run by big-league trolls,
>were you?
::takes hankie and blows nose:: thank you..
I love this place loads, simply because it's small and friendly, with a nice
small 'community' - I had to leave my Final Fantasy one because they were being
so incredibly bitchy most of the time, especially on that recent FF
movie....and I left the Tenchi Muyo one because it was getting a little too big
after Tenchi had made its 'mark' in the UK via Toonami..
>Right, 'tis my turn to do some sniffing! I now have my Cardcaptor Sakura
>DVDs, but guess what? The repair-people STILL haven't got the replacement
>motherboard in for my new computer, which is where my one and only DVD
>player happens to be, so I can't watch my Cardcaptor Sakura subs until about
>the middle of next week! It's sooooo frustrating! I've read all about the
>changes between original and dub, but I can't wait to actually SEE the
>original for myself!
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ::hands Eevee a fresh hankie:: well, you're one up on
me...I've yet to import my DVDs.....
Kevin Pack
> > Fantasy and Tenchi Muyo newsgroups......so now, this is the
> > only NG I visit now ::sniffs::..
>
> Awwwww! (Hands Little Nemo a hankie) This newsgroup is
> still pretty small and friendly, and I hope it stays a pleasant place
> to be. You weren't in one of the Final Fantasy newsgroups that
> got over-run by big-league trolls, were you?
I only recently set up a forum on my Cardcaptors web site (after it
proved quite popular on my Angelic Layer site). However, I have
had so many Trolls I have deleted more messages than remain.
I don't understand why some people seem to get the enjoyment
out of being unpleasant.
Eevee
<snip>
> I only recently set up a forum on my Cardcaptors web site (after it
> proved quite popular on my Angelic Layer site). However, I have
> had so many Trolls I have deleted more messages than remain.
> I don't understand why some people seem to get the enjoyment
> out of being unpleasant.
It's a real shame that you've had lots of trolls on your forum - I suppose
that the good thing about a forum is that you can at least delete the
offending messages - I've known some people to say that they're quitting a
newsgroup on account of it being over-run by trolls and/or spam, which is a
shame. One thing about this group is that it's relatively low on "unwelcome
visitors" compared with much larger groups.
Eevee
Eevee
::Eevee takes hankie and blows nose gratefully into it:: Sorry, any more
hankies left? I've now gone down with a streaming cold! Just as well THESE
sort of viruses can't be transmitted by computer!! ^_^
well, you're one up on
> me...I've yet to import my DVDs.....
Well, in case you're interested in getting the subs from the UK, I've
included some recently posted links for you. I got my DVDs from:
http://www.dc-dvd.net/ which might be a little on the pricey side, but they
certainly deliver the goods promptly.
The links below, I've taken from sites that Kevin Pack mentioned:
> http://www.up1.co.uk
>
> http://www.dvdmod.com/shop/search.html
>
> http://movietyme.isys.ca/index.shtml
Bye for now!
Eevee
Little nemo 212
>visitors" compared with much larger groups.
However, I wonder....
..will this newsgroup become much larger once Cardcaptors has finished its run
on ITV?
Little nemo 212
>
>::Eevee takes hankie and blows nose gratefully into it:: Sorry, any more
>hankies left? I've now gone down with a streaming cold! Just as well THESE
>sort of viruses can't be transmitted by computer!! ^_^
::giggles:: sorry, i'm fresh out ^^;;;;;;;
>Well, in case you're interested in getting the subs from the UK, I've
>included some recently posted links for you. I got my DVDs from:
>http://www.dc-dvd.net/ which might be a little on the pricey side, but they
>certainly deliver the goods promptly.
>
>The links below, I've taken from sites that Kevin Pack mentioned:
>
>> http://www.up1.co.uk
>>
>> http://www.dvdmod.com/shop/search.html
>>
>> http://movietyme.isys.ca/index.shtml
ooooooooooooooooooooh......I was planning on getting them from United
Publications, but all these sites look promising - thank you ^_^
Eevee
> > One thing about this group is that it's relatively low on "unwelcome
> >visitors" compared with much larger groups.
>
> However, I wonder....
>
> ..will this newsgroup become much larger once Cardcaptors has finished its
run
> on ITV?
That's something I've wondered about myself. Not just the ITV run, but also
further episodes being shown in the US, Canada, Australia and Europe. At
the moment, although the show already has a firm fanbase and is very
popular, it doesn't seem to have quite the same sort of MASSIVE fanbase as
some other anime shows (eg Sailor Moon, Pokemon, Dragonball Z). Maybe
that's because it's newer? I don't know. I love Cardcaptors/Cardcaptor
Sakura, and would love both the anime and manga to be massively successful,
and I certainly wouldn't mind if this newsgroup was a lively and bustling
place, but.... one thing I don't like about the larger newsgroups is that
they seem much more prone to troll and spam attacks than small ones. Ok, we
get the occasional dollop of undesirable posts here, but on the whole, we
don't have the problem of real posts vanishing under a heap of sh*t!
Just realised - us Brits have been dominating this newsgroup recently,
haven't we? Must be virtually the only non-UK-specific anime newsgroup on
Usenet where we do dominate proceedings!
Eevee, noticing the "in France" part of the message header, and trying to
remember how long ago this thread WAS about CCS in France...
Kevin Pack
> "Little nemo 212" <little...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20010910051724...@mb-mc.aol.com...
> > > One thing about this group is that it's relatively low on "unwelcome
> > >visitors" compared with much larger groups.
> >
> > However, I wonder....
> > ..will this newsgroup become much larger once Cardcaptors has
> > finished its run on ITV?
>
> That's something I've wondered about myself. Not just the ITV run,
> but also further episodes being shown in the US, Canada, Australia
> and Europe.
Even though this newsgroup doesn't seem to have any new people
posting Cardcaptors must be slowly seeping into the public
conscious. I was in a computer game store on Sunday afternoon
and there was an rpg showing on the monitor. A father said to his
son "That looks like the Cardcaptors show you like". This is the
first show after Pokemon that I have heard people actually talk
about.
Little nemo 212
>the moment, although the show already has a firm fanbase and is very
>popular, it doesn't seem to have quite the same sort of MASSIVE fanbase as
>some other anime shows (eg Sailor Moon, Pokemon, Dragonball Z). Maybe
>that's because it's newer?
Perhaps there's 'criteria' in each of those shows, that's why they're so
popular.
Think about it...
Sailor Moon = magical schoolgirl superheroes battling evil with love...
Pokemon = collecting friendly monsters in order to fight battles...
Dragonball Z = fights, and fights, and fights, and fights, and fights......and
then some more fights...
They all appeal to different audiences...Sailor Moon for young girls, Pokemon
for under-10s who don't like violence so much, and Dragonball Z for under-10s
who do. And each audience is considerably large...and I haven't mentioned the
amount of older fans..
Maybe Cardcaptors/Cardcaptor Sakura doesn't have as big a fanbase because it's
newer than the others. But then, how old was Pokemon? Not much older than CCS,
me thinks......
>Just realised - us Brits have been dominating this newsgroup recently,
>haven't we? Must be virtually the only non-UK-specific anime newsgroup on
>Usenet where we do dominate proceedings!
::growls:: Where did all those North Americans disappear to???
>Eevee, noticing the "in France" part of the message header, and trying to
>remember how long ago this thread WAS about CCS in France...
::giggles::
bdup
>
> >Eevee, noticing the "in France" part of the message header, and trying to
> >remember how long ago this thread WAS about CCS in France...
the first french tome was released in august 1999.
While everybody was waiting for the end of the world foreordained by...
Paco Rabane ! =^_^=
Eevee
> > At
> >the moment, although the show already has a firm fanbase and is very
> >popular, it doesn't seem to have quite the same sort of MASSIVE fanbase
as
> >some other anime shows (eg Sailor Moon, Pokemon, Dragonball Z). Maybe
> >that's because it's newer?
>
> Perhaps there's 'criteria' in each of those shows, that's why they're so
> popular.
>
> Think about it...
> Sailor Moon = magical schoolgirl superheroes battling evil with love...
> Pokemon = collecting friendly monsters in order to fight battles...
> Dragonball Z = fights, and fights, and fights, and fights, and
fights......and
> then some more fights...
LOL!! I love your description of Dragonball Z! Spot on! (Eevee does NOT
like DBZ!!)
>
> They all appeal to different audiences...Sailor Moon for young girls,
Pokemon
> for under-10s who don't like violence so much, and Dragonball Z for
under-10s
> who do. And each audience is considerably large...and I haven't mentioned
the
> amount of older fans..
I think Cardcaptors/Cardcaptor Sakura combines the magical girl elements of
Sailor Moon and the card-collecting beloved of many a Pokemon fan, so I
would have thought that, initially, it would appeal to fans of these 2 other
shows... It's hard to figure out why it doesn't seem to have attained quite
the huge popularity of various other anime shows targetted at the same sort
of age group.
>
> Maybe Cardcaptors/Cardcaptor Sakura doesn't have as big a fanbase because
it's
> newer than the others. But then, how old was Pokemon? Not much older than
CCS,
> me thinks......
I think Pokemon's popularity might partly be explained by the full-on
merchandising drive that went with it. I know that its original form in
Japan was as the Game-Boy game, and the anime came later. Add to this the
cutesy plush toys and the gotta-collect-'em-all cards which became so
popular and such a competitive hobby that the cards got banned from most
schools over here. Cardcaptors hasn't had quite the same many-pronged
marketing push, at least, not here in the UK.
>
> >Just realised - us Brits have been dominating this newsgroup recently,
> >haven't we? Must be virtually the only non-UK-specific anime newsgroup
on
> >Usenet where we do dominate proceedings!
>
> ::growls:: Where did all those North Americans disappear to???
Well, I can account for at least one! Neko-chan, who used to post here
quite a lot, has just started college, and AFAIK doesn't have as much spare
time to chat on newsgroups as she used to have...
Eevee
Eevee
Yay! Cool!! Especially nice, too, that it was a boy fan - I'm trying to
convince my Chibi-Fox that lots of other boys like Cardcaptors, too, and I
hope he's going to find some other CardCaptors fans at school, now that the
programme's being shown on ITV and obviously increasing in popularity over
here. Though I do wonder how many other 11 year olds started watching
Cardcaptors because they were already CLAMP fans!! Chibi-Fox wanted to see
Cardcaptors because it was by the people who did Magic Knight Rayearth!
Eevee
Little nemo 212
>fights......and
>> then some more fights...
>
>LOL!! I love your description of Dragonball Z! Spot on! (Eevee does NOT
>like DBZ!!)
^^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>I know that its original form in
>Japan was as the Game-Boy game, and the anime came later. Add to this the
>cutesy plush toys and the gotta-collect-'em-all cards which became so
>popular and such a competitive hobby that the cards got banned from most
>schools over here.
Oooooooooooooooooh, those cute plush toys!!!!!!!!.......I'm scouring every
local toy store in order to look for them; I'm still collecting them, see...
>> ::growls:: Where did all those North Americans disappear to???
>
>Well, I can account for at least one! Neko-chan, who used to post here
>quite a lot, has just started college, and AFAIK doesn't have as much spare
>time to chat on newsgroups as she used to have...
Yeah, I know about her - we're quite good friends, see...^_^