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R&S are back this Friday!!!!

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William B

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Aug 17, 2004, 11:30:29 PM8/17/04
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OK..The new season starts Friday. Is everyone ready??


Aphelion

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Aug 18, 2004, 7:03:48 PM8/18/04
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> OK..The new season starts Friday. Is everyone ready??

It does? Serious?

What time?


Aphelion


William B

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Aug 18, 2004, 9:06:14 PM8/18/04
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Reverend Ned

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Aug 19, 2004, 2:43:09 PM8/19/04
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Yeah. It's amazing that there haven't been ANY television commercials
on Spike for it, nor is there ANY information about it anywhere on
Spike's website. It's as if Spike don't want anybody to know that it's
coming back. I'm already using all of my VCRs to record the 24-hour
Peter Sellers marathon on Turner Classic Movies tomorrow, so does
anyone out there know when the new R&S cartoons will be repeated?

Wumpy

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Aug 19, 2004, 5:55:51 PM8/19/04
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It does seem as if Spike is unmotivated or even afraid to really get behind
this series. Maybe they are hedging their bet so they can distance
themselves from any conservative flak... I dunno, but it seems a weird way
to go. It's not even yet listed in Yahoo tv.

Wumpy

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Aug 19, 2004, 5:56:11 PM8/19/04
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AMSNYD

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Aug 19, 2004, 6:41:47 PM8/19/04
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<< Subject: Re: R&S are back this Friday!!!!
From: "Wumpy" pi...@myscabs.net
Date: ThuThurAug 5192020042004 4:56 PM
Message-id: <1e7f4370d823cbc7...@localhost.talkaboutanimation.com>

It does seem as if Spike is unmotivated or even afraid to really get behind
this series. Maybe they are hedging their bet so they can distance
themselves from any conservative flak... I dunno, but it seems a weird way

to go. It's not even yet listed in Yahoo tv. >><BR><BR>

There's no way it's coming back tomorrow. There would have to be at least a
LITTLE hype. Of course Spike would be fools to not air these new shows. They
poured a good amount of money into making them. Hey Steve are you still here?
Any info on what's going on? If Spike does cancel Ren and Stimpy does that
mean that that's it? Can Spumco get the rights back so they can make R&S toons
for some other channel (HBO would be good)? If Viacom doesn't plan on doing
the show anymore maybe they'd sell the rights to the characters at a reasonable
price.
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Powerhouse

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Aug 19, 2004, 7:59:15 PM8/19/04
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On Cartoon Brew 8/19:

Regarding yesterday's item, there seems to be some mass confusion about
the airdate of the new REN & STIMPY: ADULT PARTY CARTOON episodes. A Spike
TV rep told me this morning that the episodes will not premiere on August
20th and that no airdate is currently set for the new installments.
Confusion indeed. - Amid Amidi

Stephen Worth

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Aug 19, 2004, 8:31:18 PM8/19/04
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In article <20040819184147...@mb-m06.aol.com>, AMSNYD
<ams...@aol.com> wrote:

> Hey Steve are you still here?
> Any info on what's going on?

I haven't heard anything here since the Spike press release a month ago.

See ya
Steve

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Inkan

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Aug 20, 2004, 1:13:10 AM8/20/04
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Stephen Worth wrote:

> I haven't heard anything here since the Spike press release a month ago.

You work at Spumco and Spike TV hasn't even told you anything new
in a month???

- Juan F. Lara
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AMSNYD

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Aug 20, 2004, 7:56:38 AM8/20/04
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<< Subject: Re: R&S are back this Friday!!!!
From: Inkan lara...@bellsouth.net
Date: FriThurAug 5202020042004 12:13 AM
Message-id: <tLfVc.1100$6i...@bignews4.bellsouth.net>

Stephen Worth wrote:

> I haven't heard anything here since the Spike press release a month ago.

You work at Spumco and Spike TV hasn't even told you anything new

in a month??? >><BR><BR>

Spike is really beginning to tick me off. I mean it was cool of them to put
the show on in the first place and everything, but recently they've been REALLY
flakey.

TC8trax

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Aug 20, 2004, 8:36:31 AM8/20/04
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"AMSNYD" <ams...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> << Subject: Re: R&S are back this Friday!!!!
> From: Inkan lara...@bellsouth.net
> Date: FriThurAug 5202020042004 12:13 AM
> Message-id: <tLfVc.1100$6i...@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
>
> Stephen Worth wrote:
>
> > I haven't heard anything here since the Spike press release a month ago.
>
> You work at Spumco and Spike TV hasn't even told you anything new
> in a month??? >><BR><BR>
>
> Spike is really beginning to tick me off. I mean it was cool of them to
put
> the show on in the first place and everything, but recently they've been
REALLY
> flakey.
> --
Face it...it's over!

TC8trax


AMSNYD

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Aug 20, 2004, 5:44:56 PM8/20/04
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Date: FriThurAug 5202020042004 7:36 AM
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"AMSNYD" <ams...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> << Subject: Re: R&S are back this Friday!!!!
> From: Inkan lara...@bellsouth.net
> Date: FriThurAug 5202020042004 12:13 AM
> Message-id: <tLfVc.1100$6i...@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
>
> Stephen Worth wrote:
>
> > I haven't heard anything here since the Spike press release a month ago.
>
> You work at Spumco and Spike TV hasn't even told you anything new
> in a month??? >>

>


> Spike is really beginning to tick me off. I mean it was cool of them to
put
> the show on in the first place and everything, but recently they've been
REALLY
> flakey.
> --
Face it...it's over!

>><BR><BR>

Not yet. Spike's gotta air the new episodes of APC whether they want to or
not. They paid too much money to make these cartoons and I can't believe
they'd put them all on the shelf for good. Maybe one cartoon like Nick did
with Man's Best Friend, but no way they'd do that to four episodes.

Stephen Worth

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Aug 20, 2004, 5:49:45 PM8/20/04
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In article <tLfVc.1100$6i...@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, Inkan
<lara...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> You work at Spumco and Spike TV hasn't even told you anything new
> in a month?

We delivered our last episode for the season around three months ago.
It's up to Spike when they air. We have no say in that.

William B

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Aug 20, 2004, 11:24:26 PM8/20/04
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Man.... Spike better not screw this up!

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William B

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Aug 21, 2004, 12:35:52 AM8/21/04
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Well as I type this Spike is airing its usual LAME late nite line up. First
thing in the morning I'm calling my cable provider and asking them to drop
this worthless channel.
Maybe if we all do this Spike will get the hint.

Peace


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Michelle Klein-Hass

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Aug 21, 2004, 1:28:08 PM8/21/04
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:44:56 +0000, AMSNYD opined:

> Not yet. Spike's gotta air the new episodes of APC whether they want to or
> not. They paid too much money to make these cartoons and I can't believe
> they'd put them all on the shelf for good. Maybe one cartoon like Nick did
> with Man's Best Friend, but no way they'd do that to four episodes.

They gotta air them? Think again.

According to information posted on the AnimationNation bulletin board (a
board frequented by a lot of industry people incognito...it has become to
the US animation industry what F'ed Company was to the Dot Com Industry)
Spike TV has cancelled R&S Adult Party Cartoon.

Here's the link, read it and weep...
http://www.animationnation.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008895

Right now I wouldn't count on ANYTHING coming out that is in the pipeline.
No DVD set, no APC, no nothing. I will believe the DVD is coming out when
I see it at my local Hollyweird Video.

Viacom did this to Spumco once before. They also did this to other great
stuff like "MTV's Downtown" and "Invader Zim." They took the amazingly
creative folks at MTV Animation and cast almost all of them out into
unemployment.

This is "The Great Grab, Part Deux." Spumco gets screwed again.

<sigh>
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AMSNYD

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Aug 21, 2004, 11:27:17 PM8/21/04
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<< Subject: Re: R&S are back this Friday!!!! (NOT.)
From: "Michelle Klein-Hass" msge...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, Aug 21, 2004 12:28 PM
Message-id: <pan.2004.08.21....@yahoo.com>

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:44:56 +0000, AMSNYD opined:

> Not yet. Spike's gotta air the new episodes of APC whether they want to or
> not. They paid too much money to make these cartoons and I can't believe
> they'd put them all on the shelf for good. Maybe one cartoon like Nick did
> with Man's Best Friend, but no way they'd do that to four episodes.

They gotta air them? Think again.

According to information posted on the AnimationNation bulletin board (a
board frequented by a lot of industry people incognito...it has become to
the US animation industry what F'ed Company was to the Dot Com Industry)
Spike TV has cancelled R&S Adult Party Cartoon.>>

Then they're retarded. Sure I know Nick didn't air Man's Best Friend, but that
was one episode. There are four episodes of APC that Spike is shelving. How
much does each episode cost?

Right now I wouldn't count on ANYTHING coming out that is in the pipeline.
No DVD set, no APC, no nothing. I will believe the DVD is coming out when
I see it at my local Hollyweird Video.

Viacom did this to Spumco once before. They also did this to other great
stuff like "MTV's Downtown" and "Invader Zim." They took the amazingly
creative folks at MTV Animation and cast almost all of them out into
unemployment.

This is "The Great Grab, Part Deux." Spumco gets screwed again.

<sigh>
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Charter member, SPCM, (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Menchi)
"Families of Japan, it is not too late to enjoy Turkey with Gravy." -- Kaga

>><BR><BR>

I hope things aren't that grim, but I'm not in the know. I can't see why they
wouldn't air the remaining epsiodes or release the dvd since the work has
already been done and paid for even if they did want to end the show, it just
woudln't be financially smart.

Michelle Klein-Hass

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Aug 22, 2004, 12:15:57 PM8/22/04
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 03:27:17 +0000, AMSNYD opined:

Yes, but look at the track record so far:

"Man's Best Friend" was fully finished and ready to go, but it was stuffed
back into the vault for over 10 years.

Episode 13 "Before and After" of MTV's Downtown was aired only once by
MTV, in the last few days of December, at 2 in the morning, long after the
show had been cancelled.

Both moves are not very financially smart, but they are par for the course
for the Viacom juggernaut. If they want to sit on something until doomsday
they will, no matter what the cost.

Ted

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Aug 22, 2004, 10:52:41 PM8/22/04
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Michelle Klein-Hass wrote:
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> They gotta air them? Think again.
>
> According to information posted on the AnimationNation bulletin board (a
> board frequented by a lot of industry people incognito...it has become to
> the US animation industry what F'ed Company was to the Dot Com Industry)
> Spike TV has cancelled R&S Adult Party Cartoon.
>
> Here's the link, read it and weep...
> http://www.animationnation.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008895

snip

There's nothing in that link that says anything like Spike has cancelled
it except for a link claiming Spike TV's site says all episodes are
cancelled indefinitely; that seems like an inference from the lack fo
the show on the schedule, and is no different from SPike's schedule for
the last, what? 9 months? And while it's shitty, it's not enough
information to infer an overall cancellation of APC (just of showings
over the last weekend).
And rememeber, I'm of the mind that Spike is not especially committed to
any of their animated shows. It's just that the available evidence
doesn't support an inference of Spike actively cancelling the show (in
general, not for the last weekend, which they obviously did) at this time.
If APC did have extremely high ratings (as Mr. Worth has said), it's
agravatingly conceivable that Spike might keep the new episodes until
sweeps. The next sweeps being in November (more or less).

Chris Sobieniak

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Aug 23, 2004, 7:36:51 PM8/23/04
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On Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 9:15am (EDT-3), msge...@yahoo.com
(Michelle Klein-Hass) wrote:
>Yes, but look at the track record so far:
>"Man's Best Friend" was fully finished and ready to
>go, but it was stuffed back into the vault for over
>10 years.

Mainly due to the content of it. Copies of said episode had leaked into
the Black Market otherwise. We should just be grateful for the DVD
release this fall that will have this on it.

>Episode 13 "Before and After" of MTV's Downtown
>was aired only once by MTV, in the last few days
>of December, at 2 in the morning, long after the
>show had been cancelled.

Shame I missed that.

>Both moves are not very financially smart, but they
>are par for the course for the Viacom juggernaut. If
>they want to sit on something until doomsday they
>will, no matter what the cost.

Just pissing off the fans as usual.

I feel Viacom's doing the same BS in my town too, as they've monopolized
the theatre chains via National Amusemetns, competiton practically is
non-existent in Toledo.

From the Master of Car-too-nal Knowledge...
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AMSNYD

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Aug 23, 2004, 8:18:20 PM8/23/04
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<< Subject: Re: R&S are back this Friday!!!! (NOT.)
From: "Michelle Klein-Hass" msge...@yahoo.com
Date: SunThurAug 5222020042004 11:15 AM
Message-id: <pan.2004.08.22....@yahoo.com>

>

> I hope things aren't that grim, but I'm not in the know. I can't see why
they
> wouldn't air the remaining epsiodes or release the dvd since the work has
> already been done and paid for even if they did want to end the show, it just
> woudln't be financially smart.

Yes, but look at the track record so far:

"Man's Best Friend" was fully finished and ready to go, but it was stuffed
back into the vault for over 10 years.

Episode 13 "Before and After" of MTV's Downtown was aired only once by
MTV, in the last few days of December, at 2 in the morning, long after the
show had been cancelled.

Both moves are not very financially smart, but they are par for the course
for the Viacom juggernaut. If they want to sit on something until doomsday

they will, no matter what the cost. >><BR><BR>

Perhaps, but I'm still not completely buying it. Man's Best Friend was a whole
cartoon, but it was only a 15 minute one. And they didn't completely forget
it. I believe Billy West had mentioned deep into the series (like during the
fourth or fifth season) that Nick WAS planning on airing it, though with
MASSIVE changes. For Viacom to decide to perminently shelve four half hour
cartoons, expensive, and with a fan base already built in, that would be
ludicrous. They are a buisness and waste like that will reflect bad on some
high up people's records. I'm pretty sure the episodes will air sometime, what
I'm not sure of is whether the show will get renewed for a second (or would it
be third?) season. That will depend on ratings and that will largely depend on
promotion of this coming batch.

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