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L D SMITH

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Jun 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/4/99
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I want to say this I planned to follow up wiht a question right afterward
The only one that accepts pictures of etc is porn sites.
My question: How did I get a throwback to his momma out of this stud's only
offspring. Both filly's momma and him came from parents of different color
and were same height when he died. He died at age 3.
and How did I get his color...he isnt the color of either parent


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In article <7j8r2v$5csc$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,

What color is the sire, the dam, and the foal? What color are the
parents of the sire and dam? Chances are, the genetics will tell you how
you ended up with this color foal. Let us know what the colors are, and
I for one will be happy to try to figure it out--I love color genetics
puzzles!

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Lorri
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Where Dee x Isaac will be easy--either black, bay, or gray
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His dam was bay and white overo.
her dam was bay and white and her sire was black and white
his sire was a dark bay. He had a few mahoganys on the ground. He ended up
half way between


his foal
a black and white mare with a hint of bay at the nose (two toned like dam.
Rest of it is black.)
her momma bay and white (I dont know about the dam of my filly's grandma
bottom side but I can tell you this the sire was sorrel) bred to a black and
white.
Strange but true bred to black and whites this mare threw foals of many
colors
1 got her the filly's momma
next one got her a smutty buckskin (the sire of this colt came from a sire
who threw pals and such)
and third was a solid black with some white

each were out of black and white studs

Now, like the smutty buckskin and white (all but the last were overos or
tobinos) and this filly of mine share a similar c shaped star marking which
happened on one stud who is a different part of state. Only that.....both
are possibly considered throwbacks in one form or another.
This filly is almost as tall as her dam.. dam is 15.1 and filly is slightly
over 15 hands. The stud's momma stood 15.2 and 1/4 inch.
Could I have a throwback in height.

Strange thing the smutty buckskin inherrited his mothers good looks. Some
with his sire's sire dont have a good looking head on a body. I ended up
with perfect ears Ears balanced on head.
Filly looks more refined than her dam. I showed her (the dam twice under
halter) and got ribbons. I believe
in showing a horse under halter before showing in saddle. they get used to
the sounds of show ring.
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Liisa Sarakontu

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Jun 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/5/99
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"L D SMITH" <PEGASU...@prodigy.net> wrote:

> I want to say this I planned to follow up wiht a question right afterward
> The only one that accepts pictures of etc is porn sites.

Please don't post pictures to this group. This is a text only
newsgroup and pics make loading and reading very difficult and slow.
When you want to show pictures, get your own homepage and put the pics
there. Then just post the url.

>My question: How did I get a throwback to his momma out of this stud's only
>offspring. Both filly's momma and him came from parents of different color
>and were same height when he died. He died at age 3.
>and How did I get his color...he isnt the color of either parent

I like color dilemmas, and I'd like to answer this - but without ANY
info about any of the horses in question, I'm not going to try!

Liisa

R Bishop

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Jun 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/5/99
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In article <7ja4fn$1aai$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,
"LD" <pegasu...@prodigy.net> wrote:

Sorry, but this is all very confusingly written. List the color of
the dam. List her sire and dam. List the color of the sire. List
his sire and dam. THEN list the color of the foal. I think you are
saying the foal was smutty buckskin but it's hard to tell.

Sue

"If cats were human, they'd be hippies"

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Liisa Sarakontu

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Jun 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/5/99
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"LD" <pegasu...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>His dam was bay and white overo.
>her dam was bay and white and her sire was black and white
>his sire was a dark bay. He had a few mahoganys on the ground. He ended up
>half way between

I'm not sure if I can follow this right, because I got mixed up with
who is "he" and who is "she" in many sentences, but I guess that here
you talk about the sire of your foal. He seems to be a bay and white
out a bay/white and a bay. Probably the white is one of the
overo-type patterns. This far ok.

>his foal
>a black and white mare with a hint of bay at the nose

A dark seal brown, I guess. With some type of white pattern.

>her momma bay and white

Another bay and white. So you got a very dark bay (or black with
mealy factor?) out of two bays. The darkness of bay varies a lot, and
it is controlled by polygenes (a group of "small genes", each giving a
little effect on the shade) and this foal happened to inherit the
darkest genes from both parents, is she could be classified as a bay.
If she is genetically black, she just got one black gene (a) from both
parents. Black is totally recessive to bay.

>Strange but true bred to black and whites this mare threw foals of many
>colors
>1 got her the filly's momma
>next one got her a smutty buckskin (the sire of this colt came from a sire
>who threw pals and such)
>and third was a solid black with some white

Ok, this mare carries one bay and one black gene at her A locus. When
bred to black studs, about half of the foals will be Aa (bays) and
half aa (blacks). The sire of the buckskin foal isn't a true black
but it has to be a smoky black (black with one cream/cremello gene)
and the foal is bay + one cream gene = buckskin.

>This filly is almost as tall as her dam.. dam is 15.1 and filly is slightly
>over 15 hands. The stud's momma stood 15.2 and 1/4 inch.
>Could I have a throwback in height.

Height is again controlled by polygenes. This foal inherit mostly
just "tall genes" from its parents, and so she will be rather high.

Liisa

Marcy Jackson

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Jun 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/6/99
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:20:43 -0500, "L D SMITH"
<PEGASU...@prodigy.net> wrote:

> I want to say this I planned to follow up wiht a question right afterward
> The only one that accepts pictures of etc is porn sites.

Please, post horse pictures to alt.binaries.pictures.horses where it
belongs. Or, take a few minutes to learn how to put the photo on a
website and then give this group the URL address. This is a
non-binary newsgroup. Thank-you.
Marcy

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