Hall County Sheriff Information
Stinky
outrage at the 2 individuals who killed the kitten. The boys were scheduled
to go to trial this AM but it has been postponed until next Thursday; anyone
in the Hall County area (Gainesville, GA) can go. They are being held
without bail. (yes!).
The Sheriff's secretary said they had gotten a lot of calls from cat lovers
all over the US and Canada.
Julie Cook
Hall County Juvenile Court judge Wednesday ordered the release of two Flowery
Branch boys accused of dousing a kitten with gasoline and setting it on fire.
The orange tabby named Dunkin died Saturday, nearly a week after the alleged
torture.
The suspects, ages 14 and 13, will remain under house arrest in the custody of
their parents pending a Juvenile Court trial scheduled to begin July 22. The
boys are charged with felony arson, animal cruelty, criminal trespass and
reckless conduct. They have denied the charges.
Gwen A Orel
On what grounds can they possibly deny the charges?
Gwen
Julie Cook (jco...@emory.edu) wrote:
: The boys have been released, from the Atlanta Journal, July 15:
: Stinky wrote:
--
"Live as one already dead." --Japanese saying
If one tells the truth one is sure, sooner or later, to be found out.
--Oscar Wilde
Stinky
ROberto and JOni
monsters? I say, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Unfortunately, jurisprudence being what it is and justice being blind (and
sometimes deaf and dumb -- and I'm a legal secretary -- 20 years -- speaking
here), even if those boys are convicted -- of anything less than capital
\murder, which is far-fetched in this kind of case -- they'll serve their
little time in juvie hall and get their slates wiped clean when they are of
age.
The early newspaper reports stated that the boys admitted to the crime; now
they are recanting their story from what I understand?? I think they need
to lower the bar a bit, so to speak, kids nowadays are committing far more
heinous crimes than when I was young. Anyone over trhe age of, say, 12, who
commits a crime serves just like a hard-core adult. If the thought of
spending time in jail with the hard-timers frightens them, so be it. It is
the price they pay for their crimes. I think it is chickenshit of these
kids to deny what they've done.
But there again, where were the parents when all this was going on. I
promise you if I or any of my siblings even dreamed of doing something like
this, my mother would have wacked our arms off to be darn sure we couldn't
do it. I haven't been this spitting mad in a long time.
I think someone need to get at these boys with a paddle, a board, a belt or
a broomstick (like my momma did). Before its too late.
Dunkin is in my heart and my prayers tonight. Those "children" (of the
corn) can rot in Hell (and probably will) for all I care.
J
Shel & Robyn
Gwen A Orel <gao...@pitt.edu> wrote in article
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> On what grounds can they possibly deny the charges?
> Gwen
Typical tenagers.
Deny, deny, deny, even when you are caught red-handed.
The courts know all about this crap.
Regards,
An experienced Shel.
> Julie Cook (jco...@emory.edu) wrote:
> : The boys have been released, from the Atlanta Journal, July 15:
>
> : Hall County Juvenile Court judge Wednesday ordered the release of two
Flowery
> : Branch boys accused of dousing a kitten with gasoline and setting it on
fire.
>
> : The orange tabby named Dunkin died Saturday, nearly a week after the
alleged
> : torture.
>
> : The suspects, ages 14 and 13, will remain under house arrest in the
custody of
> : their parents pending a Juvenile Court trial scheduled to begin July
22. The
> : boys are charged with felony arson, animal cruelty, criminal trespass
and
> : reckless conduct. They have denied the charges.
..snip..
Mary Lee Taylor
when it comes to making life decisions. They can't even make moral
choices. I would like to see these monsters tortured as this poor litten
was. I also believ that if I were their parents, they would not be
allowed back into my house. I would insist on jail time.
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because of his sentences. He made a shoplifter wear a big placard that
said, "I am a shoplifter" or something to that effect and walk up and
down the sidewalk in front of the shopping center where he had stolen so
many items. The guy had to say out loud, too, "I am a shoplifter. I
stole such and such from this store, etc."
I think the best punishment for these boys is to put a placard on each
of them that shows the terrible thing they did to that poor cat (an
enlarged photo of Dunkin dying) and make them--at separate times---walk
up and down in front of a humane society proclaiming, "I am cruel and
abusive towards animals. I burned a cat to death"
Having them do that for 100 hours each might teach them what shame is.
--Jeri
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That Certain Third Doctor Fan
>Yes, and then these teenagers feel that they should be treated as adults
>when it comes to making life decisions. They can't even make moral
>choices. I would like to see these monsters tortured as this poor litten
>was. I also believ that if I were their parents, they would not be
>allowed back into my house. I would insist on jail time.
Torturing somebody because torture is wrong is probably not a good
idea to teach humane behavior. They really need to be treated sternly
and punished for what they did. But not tortured. It was bad enough
when it was done to a kitten.
PontiacV8
I can agree with you all about this. It seems that most of the time the
punishment dosn't fit the crime. The playground way of dealing with bullies is
to "pick on someone your own size". They sould be put in a cage with a hungry
female Leopard and told to try it again. They'd learn some respect for cats
then.
Yours saddened. Pont.
Rising Sun
beings. To me, there is definitely some very basic level of humanity
lacking. I hate to blame parents for everything but I think that it
is their responsibility to instill certain values in their children.
Rising Sun
"You can only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough."
Elsie A. Kowalenko
Jeri, that's a good suggestion. As for the shoplifting,
some parents in Canada tried that here with a shoplifting
son. Many people approved, but some letters to the
editors thought it would damage the kid's "self esteem".
I like to see judges give creative sentences that are
appropriate. Several years ago the New York Times ran
an article about a judge who gave a convicted animal
abuser a choice. He had been convicted of leaving a
litter of puppies to freeze to death at a town dump.
He had to choose between paying a very large fine or
spending the whole night alone at the same dump on
a very cold night (under police supervision I would
imagine.) I think he chose the fine.
Perhaps another appropriate punishment (within legal
limits) would be to have the pet-burning teens spend
considerable time at a hospital burn unit. I recently
saw a TV documentary about all those women being set on
fire by their own relatives in Pakistan and other countries
(for eloping with the wrong man, etc.) It was difficult
to watch even on TV - would have been worse to actually
have been there in person.
Elsie K.
Stinky
enough ppl. express OUTRAGE - to the Judge and to the politician that
appointed him/her - perhaps this won't happen again and/or there will be
more appropriate justice (as if any so-called "justice" could be enough in
this case).