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FORESIGHT Pease Pudding is NOT vegetarian

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Cutlass

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Dec 1, 2010, 5:54:43 PM12/1/10
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Much to my disappointment PEASE PUDDING made by FORESIGHT (HL Foods)
is NOT vegetarian despite it being made of yellow peas. The problem is
it is soaked in ham stock. That's the bad news.

Good news is
PEASE PUDDING PUTS FAMILY BUSINESS ON THE FOOD MAP
15/04/2010

A family business in Durham is putting a regional delicacy firmly on
the food map thanks to its partnership with premium discounter Aldi.
A family business in Durham is putting a regional delicacy firmly on
the food map thanks to its partnership with premium discounter Aldi.

Durham Foods Limited supplies 8,000 tubs each week of traditional
North East product ‘Pease Pudding’ to 43 Aldi stores across Aldi’s
Darlington region.

Pease pudding, which has been around for centuries in different
guises, is light yellow in colour and mainly consists of split peas.
It has a mild taste and is similar in texture to hummus. It was
traditionally served with a bacon or ham joint but is now used as a
salad accompaniment, a vegetable spread or in a ham sandwich.

Founded in 1978, Durham Foods employs 16 staff and is run by the
Hamilton family - Alan Senior, Alan Junior and grand-daughter
Ainsleigh who recently joined the business.

The business has reported a steady increase in sales of pease pudding
during the past 18 months as consumers have been looking for
versatility and value.

Alan Hamilton Junior said: “When the company first started, pease
pudding production was limited to domestic kitchens and small
butchers, which is where we used to purchase it from.

“As it grew in popularity, my father [Alan Senior] decided to make his
own pease pudding recipe. He didn’t use bacon or ham stock and
therefore made pease pudding suitable for vegetarians for the first
time.

“We originally started our relationship with Aldi supplying around
2,000 individual tubs a week; we’re now up to 8,000. In addition,
we’re seeing more and more enquiries for it from further afield so are
hoping for this success to continue.”

A spokesperson for Aldi said: “Durham Foods Limited is a fantastic
family company and an important part of our valued supplier network.
Local suppliers are important to Aldi and we are delighted to have
helped their business grow.”

To find your nearest Aldi store that stocks Durham Foods Limited’s
‘Pease Pudding’ visit www.aldi.co.uk or contact customer services on
0844 406 8800.
- Ends -

Cutlass

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Dec 1, 2010, 6:00:03 PM12/1/10
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PS: I guess the moral of the story is if it doesn't say suitable for
vegetarian/vegan then it's NOT! just checked my Tesco and there is no
V sign, so I should have known to check everything.

Truman Kaputt

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Dec 1, 2010, 6:00:11 PM12/1/10
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On 12/1/2010 2:54 PM, Cutlass wrote:
> Much to my disappointment PEASE PUDDING made by FORESIGHT (HL Foods)
> is NOT vegetarian despite it being made of yellow peas. The problem is
> it is soaked in ham stock. That's the bad news.

The worse news is that you probably were eating the stuff for years
before you could bother your lazy arse to check. This is always the
problem with 'vegans': laziness, and too willing to operate on lazy and
wrong assumptions.

Truman Kaputt

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Dec 1, 2010, 6:01:06 PM12/1/10
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On 12/1/2010 3:00 PM, Cutlass wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:54:43 +0000, Cutlass<pa...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> [...]

>>
>>
>
> PS: I guess the moral of the story is if it doesn't say suitable for
> vegetarian/vegan then it's NOT! just checked my Tesco and there is no
> V sign, so I should have known to check everything.

But you *didn't* check, for years. 'Vegans' are lazy.

Cutlass

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Dec 1, 2010, 6:02:33 PM12/1/10
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:00:11 -0800, Truman Kaputt
<dead....@grave.in.hell> wrote:

>On 12/1/2010 2:54 PM, Cutlass wrote:
>> Much to my disappointment PEASE PUDDING made by FORESIGHT (HL Foods)
>> is NOT vegetarian despite it being made of yellow peas. The problem is
>> it is soaked in ham stock. That's the bad news.
>
>The worse news is that you probably were eating the stuff for years
>before you could bother your lazy arse to check. This is always the
>problem with 'vegans': laziness, and too willing to operate on lazy and
>wrong assumptions.

Actually not. The label clearly states the ingredients as yellow peas,
salt, water and spices. In fact now you mention it I'm sure the ASA
would require they list ham stock as an ingredient as well, must check
that one out.

Christina Websell

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Dec 1, 2010, 6:06:40 PM12/1/10
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"Cutlass" <pa...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Much to my disappointment PEASE PUDDING made by FORESIGHT (HL Foods)
> is NOT vegetarian despite it being made of yellow peas. The problem is
> it is soaked in ham stock. That's the bad news.
>

Are you a Brit? If so you'd know this. Pease pudding is yellow peas boiled
in ham stock (with some variations)
It's delicious.. I was married to a Geordie so I know all about pease
pudding ( and stotties, and tabs and netties..)


Jane Gillett

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Dec 2, 2010, 3:16:00 AM12/2/10
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In article <J4idnWA9bKUoTmvR...@earthlink.com>,

If you stick to vegan food for years, ie no meat based products at all,
does your digestive system change so that you could no longer digest
meat-stuffs? Often wondered...

Jane

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Truman Kaputt

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Dec 2, 2010, 9:27:56 AM12/2/10
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No, it doesn't.

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Steve Slatcher

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Dec 3, 2010, 2:22:00 AM12/3/10
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On 01/12/2010 22:54, Cutlass wrote:
> Much to my disappointment PEASE PUDDING made by FORESIGHT (HL Foods)
> is NOT vegetarian despite it being made of yellow peas. The problem is
> it is soaked in ham stock. That's the bad news.

[snip, and cut to the press release]

> “As it grew in popularity, my father [Alan Senior] decided to make his
> own pease pudding recipe. He didn’t use bacon or ham stock and
> therefore made pease pudding suitable for vegetarians for the first
> time.

Can you not see how the press release directly contradicts your conclusion?

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Steve Slatcher

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Dec 3, 2010, 2:45:33 AM12/3/10
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Ah - I see the press release had nothing to do with Foresight.

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vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Dec 3, 2010, 4:51:24 AM12/3/10
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In uk.food+drink.misc Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> One vegetarian of about 20 years standing was told by his doc to start
>>> eating meat. His own stomach acids were destroying his stomach lining,
>>> apparently.
>> That's interesting..... what is it about meat eating that keeps the acid
>> levels down in the stomach..?
> I really don't know - gives them something to work on, perhaps?!

I have never heard of anyone being told anything so ... bizarre. I am
curious, but tempted to put it down to one slightly insane doctor ...

Had "one of those" conversations with my next door neighbour last week,
about how she doesn't think it's right that I 'force' my children to be
vegetarian and it should be up to them. So, er, she thinks I should be
going out and buying meat and cooking it for them, even though I don't buy
meat and cook it for me ... ? Perhaps she'd rather I just gave them a Big
Mac every day, y'know, just to keep them healthy ...
(oddly, she kept throwing in things like "I don't eat much meat, just a bit
of chicken ... " whilst lecturing me about how my boys much be deficient in
all those vitamins that meat has that they won't be getting from anywhere
else ... )

graham

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Dec 3, 2010, 3:09:06 PM12/3/10
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> In uk.food+drink.misc Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> One vegetarian of about 20 years standing was told by his doc to start
>>>> eating meat. His own stomach acids were destroying his stomach lining,
>>>> apparently.
>>> That's interesting..... what is it about meat eating that keeps the acid
>>> levels down in the stomach..?
>> I really don't know - gives them something to work on, perhaps?!
>
> I have never heard of anyone being told anything so ... bizarre. I am
> curious, but tempted to put it down to one slightly insane doctor ...
>
> Had "one of those" conversations with my next door neighbour last week,
> about how she doesn't think it's right that I 'force' my children to be
> vegetarian and it should be up to them. So, er, she thinks I should be
> going out and buying meat and cooking it for them, even though I don't buy
> meat and cook it for me ... ?

Why not? My d-i-l does it and I've known other veggieMums do it too.
Graham


vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Dec 3, 2010, 4:44:04 PM12/3/10
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In uk.food+drink.misc graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Had "one of those" conversations with my next door neighbour last week,
>> about how she doesn't think it's right that I 'force' my children to be
>> vegetarian and it should be up to them. So, er, she thinks I should be
>> going out and buying meat and cooking it for them, even though I don't buy
>> meat and cook it for me ... ?
>
> Why not? My d-i-l does it and I've known other veggieMums do it too.

Seems slightly insane to me to make a decision for me and then 'force' the
children to do something that is the opposite to what I have decided is
'best' for me. But more to the point, I find it moderately offensive that
anyone thinks they have the right to lecture me about what I feed my
children, other than in the extreme case that they actually think I am doing
them any harm.

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graham

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Dec 3, 2010, 9:19:40 PM12/3/10
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"Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> I think you're far too sensible and intelligent to let it happen but I
> have known children who ended up in hospital, malnourished, because their
> parents were fanatical vegetarians. I've never seen such pale, wispy
> little things.

My nephew's wife is an elementary school teacher and claims that she can
always spot the children from veggie households. They are always, as you
say, pale, wispy little things.
Graham


vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Dec 4, 2010, 8:42:53 AM12/4/10
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In uk.food+drink.misc graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> My nephew's wife is an elementary school teacher and claims that she can
> always spot the children from veggie households. They are always, as you
> say, pale, wispy little things.

HA! She wouldn't spot mine then, especially not Daniel. There is a child
in Benjamin's class who is thin and pale and wispy. SHe has 'allergies'.
There is a list of what she's allowed to eat on the class wall (too long to
list what she isn't allowed to eat). Most of the allowed items are meat
(except lamb, iirc).

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Giusi

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Dec 5, 2010, 3:31:02 AM12/5/10
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"Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> I wonder where all this 'allergy' stuff comes from. Surely we never had
> it in 'my day'. I knew of one girl who was anorexic but none of usk new
> what it was. And one or two children would be asthmatic but so few that
> those that were stood out in the crowd. Everyone felt rather sorry for
> them because they couldn't do strenuous games or gym etc. I don't recall
> allergies to milk or wheat though the occasional person couldn't eat e.g.
> crab or shellfish.

I think most of them died before we were old enough to understand, and
medicine didn't really understand. I remember a few children who had baby
sisters or brothers who had died inexplicably.


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Giusi

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Dec 5, 2010, 1:39:55 PM12/5/10
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"Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

> I'm not aware of anyone I was at school with dying while young, though.
> One died of a heart attack at the age of about 50, othes that I know > of,
> or still hear of, are still around.

I meant even earlier, although you've reminded me that we had two girls with
cystic fibrosis, both died very young in their teens. Nowadays they just
give up gluten.
I was allergic to cow's milk as a baby and was given goat's milk. Another
child might just have died. My kid developed a bad allergy to sea fish from
the iodine.


vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Dec 5, 2010, 5:30:27 PM12/5/10
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In uk.food+drink.misc Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> HA! She wouldn't spot mine then, especially not Daniel. There is a child
>> in Benjamin's class who is thin and pale and wispy. SHe has 'allergies'.
>> There is a list of what she's allowed to eat on the class wall (too long to
>> list what she isn't allowed to eat). Most of the allowed items are meat
>> (except lamb, iirc).
> I wonder where all this 'allergy' stuff comes from. Surely we never
> had it in 'my day'. I knew of one girl who was anorexic but none of
> usk new what it was. And one or two children would be asthmatic but
> so few that those that were stood out in the crowd. Everyone felt
> rather sorry for them because they couldn't do strenuous games or gym
> etc. I don't recall allergies to milk or wheat though the occasional
> person couldn't eat e.g. crab or shellfish.

I know (anecdotally) that doctors over-prescribe for allergies - apparently
if you show any reaction they will prescribe an epipen 'just in case'
because (I was told) apparently the 2nd trigger of the allergy is when you
get the big bad reaction if it's going to happen.

I think most of the people who are 'allergic' are actually just 'sensitive'
to things - ie, they don't go into huge anaphelatic (sp?) shock, they just
have a bit of a dodgy tummy or maybe a rash ...
Which probably makes it all a lot a lot worse for people with /real/
allergies. (Like 'vegetarians' who eat fish and chicken! </grump>)

In the past I gues the 'sensitivity' would just be ignored or tolerated, or
possibly never even actually noticed (I avoid milk as I find I feel ill
afterwards, but not in any other milk-based food ... it's quite easy to
avoid without making a fuss about it)

vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Dec 5, 2010, 5:34:45 PM12/5/10
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In uk.food+drink.misc Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I'm not aware of anyone I was at school with dying while young, though.
> One died of a heart attack at the age of about 50, othes that I know
> of, or still hear of, are still around. I don't know their general
> state of health, of course. But I was talking of my teen years at
> school, the school I went to just before I was 14.

On a rather tangential note ... I found out a few years after finishing uni
that of my GCSE biology class (of about 25) - one person had killed himself
by throwing himself off a tower block, one had been killed by being kicked
out of a night club by a bouncer and banging his head, another was in jail
for manslaughter after breaking into a house and the homeowner disturbed him
and had a heart attack. Someone else tried throwing herself in front of a
train but (I tried not to laugh!) missed and survived with a dislocated
knee, broken arm and scratches.

vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Dec 5, 2010, 5:37:14 PM12/5/10
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In uk.food+drink.misc Janet <H...@invalid.net> wrote:
>> I knew of one girl who was anorexic but none of usk new what it was.
> But girls inexplicably "going into a decline", "wasting away" and
> dying very young, had long been known.

How very Bronte/Austin. Never actually occurred to me that that could be
anorexia. Well spotted.

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vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk

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Dec 5, 2010, 7:06:13 PM12/5/10
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> Oh dear - I do share your tendency to try not to laugh. Answers to the
> name of 'Lucky' springs to mind - as in the vet-type joke about the
> missing dog with multiple scars and injuries!

If it had been anyone else I'd probably have been more sympathetic, but she
was a good friend (although we haven't kept in touch, unfortunately) and I
know she is utterly bonkers. I think on a lucid day she'd have been happy
to laugh with me about it.

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alta...@gmail.com

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Dec 17, 2019, 7:06:40 AM12/17/19
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It literally says it's vegetarian.
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