The fascinating story of Barbara Moore, M.D. of London, Breatharian
Dr L Oh
Breatharian, is a prime example of a person who had the conviction
that Breatharianism is a fact and not fiction.
At any rate, here is her story, as quoted from Viktoras Kulvinskas’
hard-to-find 1975 book "Survival into the 21st Century".
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"A heroic figure is Barbara Moore, M.D. of London. A news release by
the London Sunday Chronicle dated 17 June 1951 reads:
A woman of 50, who looks like she was only 30, claimed yesterday that
she hates food, has beaten old age, and expects to live at least 150
years. She has set out to do it by giving up eating.
Twenty years ago she ate three normal meals a day. Slowly for 12 years
she reduced her eating until she was keeping fit on one meal a day of
grass, chickweed, clover, dandelion and an occasional glass of fruit
juice.
Five years ago she switched entirely to juices and raw tomatoes,
oranges, grasses and herbs. Now she drinks nothing but a glass of
water flavored with a few drops of lemon juice.
She says: "There is much more in sunlight and air than can be seen by
the naked eye or with scientific instruments. The secret is to find
the way to absorb that extra - that cosmic radiation - and turn it
into food; that is what I have done.".
Each year she goes to Switzerland for the better air and climbs
mountains on a diet of water from the streams. "You see", she
explains, "my body cells and blood have changed considerably in
composition. I’m impervious to heat or hunger or fatigue."
She continued:
"Winter or Summer, even in Switzerland, I wear only a short sleeved
jumper and skirt. In cold weather people stare at me. While they
shiver in furs, I am warm. I’m as strong as a man and need only 3
hours sleep for mental relaxation. As my body is free of toxins, I’m
never ill."
"I had to advance slowly from vegetarianism to uncooked fruit and then
to liquid. Now I’m working towards Cosmic Food (Air). I’ve passed the
eating stage and could not eat if I desired as my alimentary canal has
changed considerably. It is no longer a filthy tube and is unable to
handle any fiber."
"Instead of thinking my life will end in ten years, I’m growing
younger. Anyone can do the same if they try. The tragedy is that
eating is one of the great pleasures of life. To stop eating is to
experience discomfort only when the body is adjusting itself to the
new course which was the original course. I now find even the odor of
food nauseating."
Viktoras Kulviskas continues writing in "...21st Century" but there
appear a few inconsistencies which I have been able to correct by
writing to the author as you can see a little further down this page.
Kulvinskas writes...
"In 1961, Dr. Morris Krok of Durban South Africa, published "Conquest
of Disease," where he reproduced a part of a speech by Dr. Moore,
which was written up in: "Life Natural, Ganeshganar, Padukottai, S.
Ry, India. Nov. 1960".
This is an extract:
‘By experimenting on myself, I’ve found that neither energy nor body
heat come[s] from food. It’s a fact, paradoxical, yet true, that I
spent three months in the mountains of Switzerland and Italy eating
nothing but snow and drinking only snow water. ‘I was climbing
mountains daily, not just fasting and sitting down and reading a book
or gazing at the sky. No, I was hiking daily from my hotel to the
mountains, often 15 miles, climbing up to seven or eight thousand
feet, then coming down and walking another 15 to 20 miles to my hotel.
‘During my fasting, I climbed mountains daily; and if I could not on
account of bad weather, I’d walk 30 to 40 miles. That proved it to me.
Year after year I’ve done the same thing to find out whether it is
true or not. For one year it may work and the next it may not work
with the same body. So, I’ve done it year after year and find that
neither energy nor heat of the body comes from physical food. 'When I
discovered this, I went a step further; I wanted to see whether I
could live without food at all; not for two or three months, but for a
longer period. I found this also possible, but not quite on an
ordinary level, as it were. I can do that in the mountains, but it is
more difficult when I come down to an ordinary level [sea level?
J.B.]. I find the air is different. I hope in time to live entirely on
air... I’m a very busy person and have little time to sleep. I’m never
tired or hungry."
Also, The Vegetarian News has an article by Barbara Moore-Pataleewa on
'The bad aspects of the English Diet'. What is wrong with traditional
English Cuisine? She reckons: 'I am not alone of all the foreigners
who find it unhealthy and unappetising, and I am speaking more
particularly of the normal vegetarian diet.' She goes on to complain
of 'crunchy-munchy' types of breakfast cereal, overcooked potatoes,
sloppy porridge. heavy, soggy steamed puddings, milk puddings and
strong tea. Even in 1946 she's pointing out that: 'the ever increasing
hypnosis of advertising magic' endows 'fancy looking cartons and boxes
with amazing qualities.'
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Barbara Moore died (was hit by a car) while walking coast-to-coast in
the USA.
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Truth.. Simplicity.. Love
Mike
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Barbara Moore died (was hit by a car) while walking coast-to-coast in
> the USA.
>
>
Rather ironic that she should die that way. I remember her well and whenever
she did her walks in this country, John o Groats to Lands End was a regular,
she always had a following.
Mike
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Doesn't seem to be that much available online about her.
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Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!
PRAYER FOR A NATION
When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:
Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.
We confess that:
We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;
We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;
We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;
We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;
We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;
We have killed our unborn and called it choice;
We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;
We have abused power and called it political savvy;
We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;
We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;
We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.
Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.
Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”
****************
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>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Barbara Moore died (was hit by a car) while walking coast-to-coast in
>> the USA.
>>
>>
>
>Rather ironic that she should die that way. I remember her well and whenever
>she did her walks in this country, John o Groats to Lands End was a regular,
>she always had a following.
>
1000mls in 23 days! I doubt many could have followed :-)
I'm curious about the diet.
Mike
"@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:12:29 +0100, "'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Barbara Moore died (was hit by a car) while walking coast-to-coast in
>>> the USA.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Rather ironic that she should die that way. I remember her well and
>>whenever
>>she did her walks in this country, John o Groats to Lands End was a
>>regular,
>>she always had a following.
>>
>
> 1000mls in 23 days! I doubt many could have followed :-)
>
eeerr ;-)
'Followed' her through the villages ;-) She used to go at a cracking pace. I
seem to remember her with her hair done up in a woollen headscarf ? Someone
will correct me if I am wrong.
Mike
"'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote in message
> news:sd4qd350lgm241jpa...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:12:29 +0100, "'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Barbara Moore died (was hit by a car) while walking coast-to-coast in
>>>> the USA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Rather ironic that she should die that way. I remember her well and
>>>whenever
>>>she did her walks in this country, John o Groats to Lands End was a
>>>regular,
>>>she always had a following.
>>>
>>
>> 1000mls in 23 days! I doubt many could have followed :-)
>>
>
> eeerr ;-)
>
> 'Followed' her through the villages ;-) She used to go at a cracking pace.
> I seem to remember her with her hair done up in a woollen headscarf ?
> Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
>
:-)
Just found this :-
http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/amboflight/barbara_moore.html
As I remembered her.
Quite a bit on google if you put in Dr Barbara Moore. Long distance walker
Hope that helps.
(That turned the clock back a bit!!)
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>
>"'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote in message
>news:eKadnc1ozcfTiEDb...@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote in message
>> news:sd4qd350lgm241jpa...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:12:29 +0100, "'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Barbara Moore died (was hit by a car) while walking coast-to-coast in
>>>>> the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rather ironic that she should die that way. I remember her well and
>>>>whenever
>>>>she did her walks in this country, John o Groats to Lands End was a
>>>>regular,
>>>>she always had a following.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 1000mls in 23 days! I doubt many could have followed :-)
>>>
>>
>> eeerr ;-)
>>
>> 'Followed' her through the villages ;-) She used to go at a cracking pace.
>> I seem to remember her with her hair done up in a woollen headscarf ?
>> Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>
>:-)
>
>Just found this :-
>
>http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/amboflight/barbara_moore.html
>
>As I remembered her.
>
>Quite a bit on google if you put in Dr Barbara Moore. Long distance walker
>
Actually not that much in reality, all things considered which is a
shame.
John McMillan
>
> She says: "There is much more in sunlight and air than can be seen by
> the naked eye or with scientific instruments. The secret is to find
> the way to absorb that extra - that cosmic radiation - and turn it
> into food; that is what I have done.".
>
Was this ever tested? Presumably there was less cosmic radiation
below her than above, since she was absorbing some in order to live.
Fairly easy to measure, I'd have thought.
Was she very dense?
graham
"John McMillan" <j.e.mc...@sheffielddot.acdot.uk> wrote in message
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I remember her as a crank!
Graham
Jette
> "'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote in message
> news:eKadnc1ozcfTiEDb...@bt.com...
>>
>> "@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote in message
>> news:sd4qd350lgm241jpa...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:12:29 +0100, "'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Barbara Moore died (was hit by a car) while walking coast-to-coast in
>>>>> the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Rather ironic that she should die that way. I remember her well and
>>>> whenever
>>>> she did her walks in this country, John o Groats to Lands End was a
>>>> regular,
>>>> she always had a following.
>>>>
>>> 1000mls in 23 days! I doubt many could have followed :-)
>>>
>> eeerr ;-)
>>
>> 'Followed' her through the villages ;-) She used to go at a cracking pace.
>> I seem to remember her with her hair done up in a woollen headscarf ?
>> Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>
> :-)
>
> Just found this :-
>
> http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/amboflight/barbara_moore.html
>
Err - above the photograph it says "picture of Dr Moore walking across
America before her tragic accident"
Below the photograph it says "pictured at Penrith, halfway point on
her John O'Groats to Land's End marathon", which would place it in the
UK. The car number plate just visible would support that - it's a UK
style number not a US style plate.
The text says that she wore short sleeved shirts and skirts "winter
and summer" in Switzerland and was warm dressed like that while
everyone else was shivering in furs - yet she's clearly wearing a nice
warm sheepskin coat and sensible trousers in that photo, in England,
and doesn't look too warm.
--
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wrote:
Maybe it was colder here? Regardless of warm or not it's still
advisable to wrap up in winter chills.
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Although it sounds quite an impossible life to comprehend, certainly
with the excesses we are used to today. It's an interesting philosophy
and a little experimentation wouldn't go amiss.
EG: How can horses etc be such prime specimens, relatively fat free
and live on pretty much grass alone?
matthew walker
< snip >
yawn
CWatters
"John McMillan" <j.e.mc...@sheffielddot.acdot.uk> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > She says: "There is much more in sunlight and air than can be seen by
> > the naked eye or with scientific instruments.
Such as? I guess we'll never know.
>> The secret is to find
> > the way to absorb that extra - that cosmic radiation - and turn it
> > into food; that is what I have done.".
> >
This is a load of rubish. Simply not possible. For one thing there is no
such thing as cosmic _rays_. They may be called that but they arrive from
space as individual particles not rays. They generally react with the upper
earth atmosphere and turn into things like carbon14. Good job to because
cosmic rays are dangerous to people - people who go into space that is. Only
they are exposed to high levels of cosmic rays. Did she go into space with
the fairies?
> Was she very dense?
Very.
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Science actually knows very little when it comes right down to it.
There's nothing denser than someone who learnt all they know from a
book.
Gloria
<colin....@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote:
Perhaps your science could explain this?
‘By experimenting on myself, I’ve found that neither energy nor body
heat come[s] from food. It’s a fact, paradoxical, yet true, that I
spent three months in the mountains of Switzerland and Italy eating
nothing but snow and drinking only snow water. ‘I was climbing
mountains daily, not just fasting and sitting down and reading a book
or gazing at the sky. No, I was hiking daily from my hotel to the
mountains, often 15 miles, climbing up to seven or eight thousand
feet, then coming down and walking another 15 to 20 miles to my hotel.
‘During my fasting, I climbed mountains daily; and if I could not on
account of bad weather, I’d walk 30 to 40 miles. That proved it to me.
Year after year I’ve done the same thing to find out whether it is
true or not. For one year it may work and the next it may not work
with the same body. So, I’ve done it year after year and find that
neither energy nor heat of the body comes from physical food. 'When I
discovered this, I went a step further; I wanted to see whether I
could live without food at all; not for two or three months, but for a
longer period. I found this also possible, but not quite on an
ordinary level, as it were. I can do that in the mountains, but it is
more difficult when I come down to an ordinary level [sea level?
J.B.]. I find the air is different. I hope in time to live entirely on
air... I’m a very busy person and have little time to sleep. I’m never
tired or hungry."
I dont think slagging it off will count, so watch it.
matthew walker
Lame argument I thinknews:kfbrd35ihct5fi5d2...@4ax.com...
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<matthew....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Like the bible?
Like any book, even the bible, which is after all a diary not even
written by Jesus.
>Lame argument I think
Try again and learn to post properly.
matthew walker
"There's nothing denser than someone who learnt all they know from a book"
"@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote in message
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>There was nothing wrong with my post.
Top posting is a sin.
> your point was that you stated
>"There's nothing denser than someone who learnt all they know from a book"
Well done.
>Is the bible not a book?
Yes it is. Your point?
matthew walker
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<matthew....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>You are a hypocrite!
Don't give up your day job!
matthew walker
Don't give up your day job!
Science actually knows very little when it comes right down to it.
There's nothing denser than someone who learnt all they know frombook.
>> >> >Like the bible?
Like any book, even the bible, which is after all a diary not even written
by Jesus.
Still a book and a leap of faith so your previous statement holds no water
p.s I would never give up my day job! pays for my fisnig tackle
CWatters
"Gloria" <letsstand...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Perhaps your science could explain this?
Well that question alone is a topic in itself. It suggests my definition of
science is not the same as yours. What follows by BM is anecdotal evidence
not scientific evidence. That's not to say that anecdotal evidence is bad
but you must look at all the available anecdotal evidence before you can
have sufficient confidence to make bold claims or predictions.
> 'By experimenting on myself, I've found that neither energy nor body
> heat come[s] from food.
Assuming she wasn't being economical with the truth... The fact that _she_
can survive without food is not scientific evidence that energy does not
come from food. To investigate her claim properly you would need to do
trials under controlled conditions that are repeatable....Science is just
about making predictions... If you do X and Y that then it appears Z
happens. We don't know what BC did in sufficient detail to be able to repeat
her experiment exactly. It's THAT that makes it bad science NOT the
extraordinary nature of her claim.
Failing that you could look at the other anecdotal evidence provided by
millions of people who die each year in countries subject to food shortages
or people who are cast adrift on the oceans or who go on hunger strikes.
> It's a fact, paradoxical, yet true, that I
> spent three months in the mountains of Switzerland and Italy eating
> nothing but snow and drinking only snow water. '
Pity nobody followed her 24/7 to check on that claim.
See..
http://www.sciam.com/askexpert_question.cfm?articleID=00082453-B621-118B-B62183414B7F0000
Quote:
For total starvation in healthy individuals receiving adequate hydration,
reliable data on survival are hard to obtain. At the age of 74 and already
slight of build, Mahatma Gandhi, the famous nonviolent campaigner for
India's independence, survived 21 days of total starvation while only
allowing himself sips of water. In a 1997 article in the British Medical
Journal, Michael Peel, senior medical examiner at the Medical Foundation for
the Care of Victims of Torture, cites well-documented studies reporting
survivals of other hunger strikers for 28, 36, 38 and 40 days. Most other
reports of long-term survival of total starvation, however, have been poorly
substantiated. [Editor's Note: Reports of the 1981 hunger strike by
political prisoners against the British presence in Northeast Ireland
indicate that 10 individuals died after periods of between 46 and 73 days
without food.]
Unlike total starvation, near-total starvation with continued hydration has
occurred frequently, both in history and in patients under medical
supervision. Survival for many months to years is common in concentration
camps and during famines, but the unknown caloric intake during these times
makes it impossible to predict survival.
End Quote.
> I dont think slagging it off will count, so watch it.
Agreed.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof as they say.
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>
>"Gloria" <letsstand...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:rkbrd3lq1hon50t4e...@4ax.com...
>
>> Perhaps your science could explain this?
>
>Well that question alone is a topic in itself. It suggests my definition of
>science is not the same as yours. What follows by BM is anecdotal evidence
>not scientific evidence. That's not to say that anecdotal evidence is bad
>but you must look at all the available anecdotal evidence before you can
>have sufficient confidence to make bold claims or predictions.
You snipped all the context so how can we policy know what the waffle
is about?
>> 'By experimenting on myself, I've found that neither energy nor body
>> heat come[s] from food.
>
>Assuming she wasn't being economical with the truth... The fact that _she_
>can survive without food is not scientific evidence that energy does not
>come from food. To investigate her claim properly you would need to do
>trials under controlled conditions that are repeatable....Science is just
>about making predictions... If you do X and Y that then it appears Z
>happens. We don't know what BC did in sufficient detail to be able to repeat
>her experiment exactly. It's THAT that makes it bad science NOT the
>extraordinary nature of her claim.
I would be prepared to take her word for it, until she proves
unworthy.
>Failing that you could look at the other anecdotal evidence provided by
>millions of people who die each year in countries subject to food shortages
>or people who are cast adrift on the oceans or who go on hunger strikes.
It's all in the mind!
>> It's a fact, paradoxical, yet true, that I
>> spent three months in the mountains of Switzerland and Italy eating
>> nothing but snow and drinking only snow water. '
>
>Pity nobody followed her 24/7 to check on that claim.
I think you're missing the point.
She didn't starve herself, she taught herself to live frugally. The
mind has the power to do much more with our bodies than we ever
dreamed. Big difference.
Seems strange Science never took her up on it at the time, alas it's
now to late, but then we have many more living breatharians?
Jim Ford
> The mind has the power to do much more with our bodies than we ever
> dreamed.
The mind can't beat the laws of physics. If it requires x Joules to
climb the stairs, the energy has to come from somewhere. It doesn't come
from fresh air and water - it either goes in the gob, or comes from the
body's reserves.
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<jaf...@watford53.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>@@^> wrote:
>
> > The mind has the power to do much more with our bodies than we ever
>> dreamed.
>
>The mind can't beat the laws of physics.
Apparently it can, but I guess the laws of physics can also be
questioned!
> If it requires x Joules to
>climb the stairs, the energy has to come from somewhere. It doesn't come
>from fresh air and water - it either goes in the gob, or comes from the
>body's reserves.
Not according to Doctor Moore. The again she may well have been living
off her reserves anyway to a certain extent. Look at the concentration
camps, how much weight they could lose and still survive with very
little intake.
Perhaps we can control our metabolism etc, to open a whole new world
on established thing?
Jim Ford
> Perhaps we can control our metabolism etc, to open a whole new world
> on established thing?
You simply cannot, _cannot_, CANNOT, beat the laws of simple every day
physics - with the mind or anything else. Whether you are The Pope, the
Dalai Lama, Darren Brown or Dr Moore - it cannot be done. Whatever you
do, whether it be maintaining body temperature against heat loss, the
heart pumping blood around the body or simply opening an eyelid. It all
is work that needs energy. The energy _has_ to come from food intake or
body reserves. You can reduce the work done by the body by insulating
against heat loss and keeping as still as possible and not moving, but
there is still _some_ work being done in maintaining the body's function.
Mike
"Jim Ford" <jaf...@watford53.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Read a very interesting book a few years ago about some people 'Blue
Boating' that is cruising the World, when their yacht was hit from
underneath and very very quickly sank. They just had time to launch and get
into the dinghy and they had an inflatable dinghy as well. By sheer luck,
they had a large carving type knife which the owner remarked on the lines of
"I don't know what made me throw it into the boat, but I'm glad I did"
They were adrift for 146 days and as they had no food, they had to think
fast. There were 3 in the family and a Boat Bum, someone who 'hitches a lift
from place to place'. They survived by catching the fish which became too
nosey with their bare hands and Turtles which would be too nosey as well.
They were picked up by a Korean Fishing Boat in a very good state
considering, but one of the things they did do, was move very little to
conserve energy.
Wonderful book I was reading during a time I was researching doing a Round
the World by yacht.
No........... Did it last year on P&O's Aurora. Bit more comfort :-)
What hit them? The theory was that as the Anti Fouling was white, a Male
Whale had assumed it was a Female Whale and this was the prelude to mating.
So use Blue Anti Fouling paint :-)) Unless you want to be mated by a Whale
;-)
Mike
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Did anyone ever see the *bum* again? lol
Mike
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Yes he was a survivor with them. Nice little bit of tension when he 'lost' a
Turtle which was he next few day's dinner :-((
It's only when you have been in the Pacific and not seen a ship for days and
days, and that's from high up on the deck of a luxury cruise liner that you
realise how lucky they were to survive.
Sacha
"@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote:
<snip>>
>
He was a drip and got the whole lot of them down rather badly at times.
It's "Survive the Savage Sea".
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
Mike
"Sacha" <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 9/9/07 16:47, in article eb58e3pq2cfp6qfdv...@4ax.com,
> "@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote:
> <snip>>
>> Did anyone ever see the *bum* again? lol
>>
> <snip>
>
> He was a drip and got the whole lot of them down rather badly at times.
> It's "Survive the Savage Sea".
>
> --
> Sacha
So terribly sorry, wrong story. That was a family of six for only 38 days.
AND it was recent. The story I read was some 20 possibly 30 odd years ago
and a family of 3 and for 146 days
Kindest possible regards
Mike
"'Mike'" <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "Sacha" <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C309D9D0.5A0A5%sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
>> On 9/9/07 16:47, in article eb58e3pq2cfp6qfdv...@4ax.com,
>> "@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote:
>> <snip>>
>>> Did anyone ever see the *bum* again? lol
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> He was a drip and got the whole lot of them down rather badly at times.
>> It's "Survive the Savage Sea".
>>
>> --
>> Sacha
>
> So terribly sorry, wrong story. That was a family of six for only 38 days.
>
> AND it was recent. The story I read was some 20 possibly 30 odd years ago
> and a family of 3 and for 146 days
>
> Kindest possible regards
>
> Mike
>
Family of 3,...... PLUS the 'Boat Bum' of course. Just in case there was
any little misunderstanding :-))
Mike
Who doesn't knowingly tell lies ;-)
CWatters
> I would be prepared to take her word for it, until she proves
> unworthy.
So do let us know how you get on in three months.
Meanwhile can I interest you in a scheme that's guaranteed to double your
money in four months? .
> >Failing that you could look at the other anecdotal evidence provided by
> >millions of people who die each year in countries subject to food
shortages
> >or people who are cast adrift on the oceans or who go on hunger strikes.
>
> It's all in the mind!
>
> >> It's a fact, paradoxical, yet true, that I
> >> spent three months in the mountains of Switzerland and Italy eating
> >> nothing but snow and drinking only snow water. '
> >
> >Pity nobody followed her 24/7 to check on that claim.
>
<snip>
> She didn't starve herself, she taught herself to live frugally.
No read the original claim again. It says she reduced her food intake
until...
"Now she drinks nothing but a glass of water flavored with a few drops of
lemon juice".
and
"I've passed the eating stage and could not eat if I desired as my
alimentary canal has changed considerably."
and you say she didn't starve herself. Yeah right.
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<colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote:
>
>"@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote in message
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> > I would be prepared to take her word for it, until she proves
>> unworthy.
>
>So do let us know how you get on in three months.
>
>Meanwhile can I interest you in a scheme that's guaranteed to double your
>money in four months? .
I guess that counts you out of any open discussions!
CWatters
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:49:27 +0100, "CWatters"
> <colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"@@^>" <Sloane...@devnull.com> wrote in message
> >news:mhm7e3167k2e3hcia...@4ax.com...
> > > I would be prepared to take her word for it, until she proves
> >> unworthy.
> >
> >So do let us know how you get on in three months.
> >
> >Meanwhile can I interest you in a scheme that's guaranteed to double your
> >money in four months? .
>
> I guess that counts you out of any open discussions!
Why do you consider my claim more unreasonable than that of Barbara Moore?
My point is that thousand of people make claims every day. Assuming they are
all trustworthy and even if they are all true... how do you decide which is
_best_ if you aren't critical of the evidence? For example there are many
claims for miricle cures - which should the NHS spend it's limited budget on
first?
If you don't want evidence, I'll expect your cheque in the post :-)
CWatters
> YOU don't decide anything. We decide what we do with the information.
> An open mind ensures we look into it with study and respect,
When you've done that perhaps you should publish a paper detailing how they
manage to survive without food. People have died trying to do what she
claims...
@@^>
wikipedia is a serious scientific paper is it? It has no more
credibility than Breatharianism, and certainly no more substance.
Anyone can write on it.
Jim Ford
All dreamed up by a load of nutters, in the same class as perpetual
motion, turning water into petrol with a magic powder etc..
CWatters
> wikipedia is a serious scientific paper is it? It has no more
> credibility than Breatharianism, and certainly no more substance.
> Anyone can write on it.
and anyone can check and correct whats on Wikipedia. Are you saying people
didn't die and someone made a mistake?
CWatters
"CWatters" <colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps you prefer the BBC as a source? No I doubt that but here it is
anyway..
CWatters
> wikipedia is a serious scientific paper is it? It has no more
> credibility than Breatharianism,
I missed that last bit. Sounds like you agree Breatharianism has no
credibility. In which case I agree.
Gloria
It's clearly just as unsubstantiated as the original principle for
breatharianism. Why would you take one on face value and not the
other, are you a genuine goober?
Gloria
You're an obvious arse.
Gloria
The story is completely unsubstantiated, they could have said anything
goober. You tell us smart arse what they died of, as your sources
apparently cannot?
CWatters
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:12:48 +0100, "CWatters"
> <colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"CWatters" <colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote in message
> >anyway..
> >
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/454313.stm
> >
>
> The story is completely unsubstantiated, they could have said anything
> goober. You tell us smart arse what they died of, as your sources
> apparently cannot?
Yawn..
http://www.rickross.com/reference/breat/breat01.html
"The follower of a cult which promotes fasting and "living on light" died
from hypothermia and dehydration, officials said today."
CWatters
> It's clearly just as unsubstantiated as the original principle for
> breatharianism. Why would you take one on face value and not the
> other, are you a genuine goober?
I don't take anything on face value.
Are you saying that the deaths referred to in the wiki article are not
substantiated?
Gloria
You just don't understand do you! sigh.
Gloria
<colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote:
>
>"Gloria" <letsstand...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > It's clearly just as unsubstantiated as the original principle for
>> breatharianism. Why would you take one on face value and not the
>> other, are you a genuine goober?
>
>I don't take anything on face value.
Except stories on the news when it suits you?
>Are you saying that the deaths referred to in the wiki article are not
>substantiated?
Even a goober should be able to comprehend that the connection between
breatharianism is pure unsubstantiated claptrap, yet you goober are
quite happy to take THAT at face value!
CWatters
Well I'm willing to be corrected. Sure I can accept the possibility that
Verity Linn's death was unconnected to her breatharianism.
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<colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote:
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>"Gloria" <letsstand...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:50:09 +0100, "CWatters"
>> <colin....@turnersoak.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Gloria" <letsstand...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:e0kce31rjcdobs12t...@4ax.com...
>> > > It's clearly just as unsubstantiated as the original principle for
>> >> breatharianism. Why would you take one on face value and not the
>> >> other, are you a genuine goober?
>> >
>> >I don't take anything on face value.
>>
>> Except stories on the news when it suits you?
>>
>> >Are you saying that the deaths referred to in the wiki article are not
>> >substantiated?
>>
>> Even a goober should be able to comprehend that the connection between
>> breatharianism is pure unsubstantiated claptrap, yet you goober are
>> quite happy to take THAT at face value!
>
>Well I'm willing to be corrected. Sure I can accept the possibility that
>Verity Linn's death was unconnected to her breatharianism.
>
I doubt you have the ability to open your mind to any other
possibility. Surprised you didn't blame doctor Moore's death on
Breatharianism!