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Ilya Shambat

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Nov 13, 2003, 9:34:54 PM11/13/03
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The politically correct movement of the last decade will go down in
history as one of the most destructive, most vicious, and most
abominable aberrations in the history of Western thought; one that has
intellectually undermined the world's first democracy and paved the
way for tyranny in this country.

What is political correctness? Political correctness is a kind of
relativism, a belief that there is no absolute truth and all beliefs
are OK in the public discourse for as long as they don't offend
anyone. The key clause is "for as long as they don't offend anyone."
This of course goes entirely against freedom of speech and freedom of
conscience; for meaningful speech will in almost cases be offensive to
somebody, unless we all think with the same mind. And as it is said so
often, and as the psychologically traced concept of groupthink
demonstrates very clearly, If we are all thinking the same way then we
are not thinking.

Not thinking, or thinking the same way, ensures perpetuation of errors
and bad
cognitions, elimination of corrective thoughts, and failure to own up
to the burden of mindfulness. It is a way to perpetuate mental
comfort, at the expense of seeing the entire picture, the uncomforting
details within the picture, and those parts of objective evidence that
might disagree with the party line and render it invalid. Thus a code
of speech based on not offending anybody is a code of speech that is
inherently and manifestly dishonest; a code of speech lacking
integrity and lacking character - lacking truthfulness to facts, and
lacking intellectual rigor. It is a code of speech that encourages
false advertising, crookery, cheatery, sycophantism and simple deceit.

To make political correctness the staple of American education is to
arrive at a weakened, intellectually stunted, population; a population
that through an equivalent of censorship has been thwarted from true
intellectual development. It is a way to educate the population in
manners of thought that are weak and dishonest and that are robbed of
the seeds of honor, strength, virtue and originality in their modes of
thought. It is a way to create people who are not able to think for
themselves and are thus prey to mass movements. It is a way to negate
the very essence of what the founders of this country sought the
people who live in this country to be.

Political correctness is an attempt to arrive at social peace through
castrating the population of its mental potency. Which constitutes a
reduction of the American population to a state incompatible with the
founding principles of America; for it was one of America's founders
who said that people who would sacrifice liberty in the name of
security are not worthy of either. And indeed, with the politically
correct education producing people on the Left who have no character
or certainty or conviction, the Right has taken over the country
completely, for the first time in its history stealing an election and
conducting a policy of l'etat c'est moi - a policy of "you are a
patriot if you
agree with me, you're not a patriot if you disagree with me." When, in
other words, the will to fight for the founding principles of America
has been all but extinguished through a gag on emotional and cognitive
expression - through an ideology pursued by educational institutions
that, rather than training people to be responsible, thoughtful and
vocal citizens, trains them instead to think offending somebody as the
worst possible sin - patriotism is determined not by compliance with
America's founding principles but by compliance with the will of the
leader - and America turns from a republic into a monarchy. God Bless
King George.

In this way political correctness, a left-wing phenomenon, defeats
itself and is relegated to the dustbin of history by historical
forces, in a manner similar to what happened to another left-wing
abomination named Marxism a decade before. The events that led up to
this aberration, its intellectual leaders, and the lives that were
destroyed by it, are to be catalogued.

Roger

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Nov 14, 2003, 8:31:00 AM11/14/03
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Can you be more petty?

It matters what people calls things? Please.


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David O'Lantern

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Nov 14, 2003, 12:53:14 PM11/14/03
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Roger asked of Ilya Borisovich Shambat:

> Can you be more petty?

Of Ilya B.S. you ask that? Proverb: "Be careful what you wish for."


D.

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Ilya Shambat

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:30:45 PM11/14/03
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"Roger" <rog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<oO4tb.10186$Ru4....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...

> Can you be more petty?
>
> It matters what people calls things? Please.

Explain what you've just said.

David O'Lantern

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:53:55 PM11/14/03
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Dear Ilya of Burgos:


I'm suprised none of your ex-"goddesses" got this through your thick
skull, but it's *your* function on Earth to sit still, look pretty,
occasionally say charming things, but mostly to passively embody the
"spirit of Civilization." This "thinking" stuff is clearly too hard
for you, and public argumentation only makes your forehead wrinkle.

It's not "male/female" you see but "butch/femme": Layo and Sollilja
were both more butch than you. Hell honey, *I* am butcher than you.

(It's certainly not intelligence, any given cockroach exceeds yours.)


Helpfully,
D.

P.S. When is the Great Ex-Jewish Hope gonna leave his Mommy's house?

Immortalist

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Nov 14, 2003, 3:27:44 PM11/14/03
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"Ilya Shambat" <ilya_s...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Let us hope that if by chance society evolves towards a direction of
physical and mental abuse greater than in times past that we can have a
political correctness trend to kill it. Otherwise if society has to much
kindness we need to say shut up whinners a bit to balance it out.


Ilya Shambat

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Nov 14, 2003, 5:26:41 PM11/14/03
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David O'Lantern <thed...@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message news:<2003111411...@shell.rawbw.com>...

> Dear Ilya of Burgos:
>
>
> I'm suprised none of your ex-"goddesses" got this through your thick
> skull, but it's *your* function on Earth to sit still, look pretty,
> occasionally say charming things, but mostly to passively embody the
> "spirit of Civilization." This "thinking" stuff is clearly too hard
> for you, and public argumentation only makes your forehead wrinkle.

My function at this point is to undo the false ideologies of the last
20 years in order that there can be a cultural renaissance in AMerica.
Arguing isn't my style, my style is getting all information together
and putting it out in written format. I work as a writer, not as a
speaker.

> It's not "male/female" you see but "butch/femme": Layo and Sollilja
> were both more butch than you. Hell honey, *I* am butcher than you.

When Layo and Sollilja were being nasty, I translated Anna Akhmatova.
This kept me alive.

> P.S. When is the Great Ex-Jewish Hope gonna leave his Mommy's house?

I've been looking for work in Russia, since they outsourced all the
stuff I was good at.

bob

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Nov 14, 2003, 6:40:41 PM11/14/03
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On 14 Nov 2003 14:26:41 -0800, ilya_s...@yahoo.com (Ilya Shambat)
wrote:

>David O'Lantern <thed...@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message news:<2003111411...@shell.rawbw.com>...
>> Dear Ilya of Burgos:
>>
>>
>> I'm suprised none of your ex-"goddesses" got this through your thick
>> skull, but it's *your* function on Earth to sit still, look pretty,
>> occasionally say charming things, but mostly to passively embody the
>> "spirit of Civilization." This "thinking" stuff is clearly too hard
>> for you, and public argumentation only makes your forehead wrinkle.
>
>My function at this point is to undo the false ideologies of the last
>20 years in order that there can be a cultural renaissance in AMerica.

"Not gonna happen"

>Arguing isn't my style, my style is getting all information together
>and putting it out in written format. I work as a writer, not as a
>speaker.
>
>> It's not "male/female" you see but "butch/femme": Layo and Sollilja
>> were both more butch than you. Hell honey, *I* am butcher than you.
>
>When Layo and Sollilja were being nasty, I translated Anna Akhmatova.
>This kept me alive.

Sticks and stones may break your bones but ...

>> P.S. When is the Great Ex-Jewish Hope gonna leave his Mommy's house?
>
>I've been looking for work in Russia, since they outsourced all the
>stuff I was good at.

Seems like a good idea. The software development at my last company
has been moved back to Russia. The mechanical design is being done
there also.

bob

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Nov 14, 2003, 7:18:11 PM11/14/03
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"Immortalist" <Reanima...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Let us hope that if by chance society evolves towards a direction of
>physical and mental abuse greater than in times past that we can have a
>political correctness trend to kill it. Otherwise if society has to much
>kindness we need to say shut up whinners a bit to balance it out.

The trend would just be used to cover it up, give it a nice flavor.

Liberals suck. Conservatives suck. People suck in general.

Thankfully, some suck better than others.

heh

Pete Turk

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Nov 14, 2003, 7:29:15 PM11/14/03
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In article <63f8dcf3.03111...@posting.google.com>, Ilya
Shambat <ilya_s...@yahoo.com> writes

>
>In this way political correctness, a left-wing phenomenon, defeats
>itself and is relegated to the dustbin of history by historical
>forces, in a manner similar to what happened to another left-wing
>abomination named Marxism a decade before. The events that led up to
>this aberration, its intellectual leaders, and the lives that were
>destroyed by it, are to be catalogued.

Ilya!

Really, you (of all people) should know better.

What you call "political correctness" was and is never
left-wing, right-wing nor of any other feather.

What you're in fact talking about is _orthodoxy_

Way before Marx was a twinkle in his mother's eye, you
had Cromwell's New Model Army stamping out the Ranters
in the name of "the Lord" (i.e. orthodoxy).

More recently, also more anciently, you had Sunni against
Shi'a. Yours, Ilya, is just the latest in a loooong line.

The real contention IMO is: orthodoxy versus "heresy"
(which usually equates to a free use of enquiry)
or else possibly what social psychologists call "inner-
directed" versus "outer-directed" personality-types.

About the earliest instance we know of was the Egyptian
cult of Aten versus the then orthodox cult of Ammun
around 1200(?) BCE.

And (would you believe it!) neither Akh-en-Aten nor his
consort Neferet-iiti was left-wing, right-wing, Marxist,
Fascist, nor feminist!! ....
>:-)

'Much Madness is divinest Sense --
To a discerning Eye --
Much Sense -- the starkest Madness --
T'is the Majority
In this, as All, prevail --
Assent - and you are sane --
Demur -- you're straightway dangerous --
And handled with a Chain -- '

-- Emily Dickinson #435 (1862)

Pete Turk <Pe...@ragtag.demon.co.uk> ICQ# 11981084
RFA President and Moonshadow
--
May your doorstep ever be dirty.
-- Romany blessing

wayfarer

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Nov 14, 2003, 7:36:58 PM11/14/03
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ilya_s...@yahoo.com (Ilya Shambat) wrote in message news:<63f8dcf3.0311...@posting.google.com>...

He was being sarcastic and feeding your constant need for approval by
pretending to feed your ego by telling you what you wanted to hear
about your physical appearance while maintaining a condescension about
your lack of political insight. LOL...but I doubt it. You were
probably just attempting to flatter your own pathetic ego. Oh, and by
the way, keep posting more of your poems. They always serve as a good
example of a woman who is desperate for too much attention. I enjoy
your histrionic personality. You serve as a good example of what I
never want to be.

DAVID

William Humphreys

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Nov 14, 2003, 8:23:30 PM11/14/03
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ilya_s...@yahoo.com (Ilya Shambat):

>David O'Lantern <thed...@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message news:<2003111411...@shell.rawbw.com>...
>> Dear Ilya of Burgos:
>>
>>
>> I'm suprised none of your ex-"goddesses" got this through your thick
>> skull, but it's *your* function on Earth to sit still, look pretty,
>> occasionally say charming things, but mostly to passively embody the
>> "spirit of Civilization." This "thinking" stuff is clearly too hard
>> for you, and public argumentation only makes your forehead wrinkle.
>
>My function at this point is to undo the false ideologies of the last
>20 years in order that there can be a cultural renaissance in AMerica.

That's just what this homeless guy with a paper bag full of shit was
saying last week. Do you think he might be a false prophet?

David

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Nov 14, 2003, 4:21:07 AM11/14/03
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Ilya of Burgos wrote back to me:

>>P.S. When is the Great Ex-Jewish Hope gonna leave his Mommy's house?
>
> I've been looking for work in Russia, since they outsourced all the
> stuff I was good at.

All of America's big corporations outsourced yammering nonsensically?

If so, the we truly are kaput as a culture.


Postfeudalistically,
D.


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