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Sound of Trumpet

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Dec 27, 2009, 5:01:30 AM12/27/09
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Charles Manson, Evolutionist

Categories: Life's Origins & Evolution


Today and tomorrow mark the 40th anniversary of the murders that made
Charles Manson an icon of evil. In Helter Skelter, prosecutor Vincent
Bugliosi writes about his interviews with talent scout Gregg Jakobson,
who spent many hours, over the course of a year and a half (1968-69),
talking with Manson about his philosophy. Manson foresaw a race war
pitting blacks against whites, and some have speculated that his
motive in directing the murders was to hasten the inevitable conflict.
Bugliosi asked:

What was Manson's attitude toward blacks?

Gregg replied that Charlie "believed there were different levels
when it came to race, and the white man occupied a higher level than
the black." This was why Charlie was so strongly opposed to black-
white sex; "you would be interfering with the path of evolution, you
would be mixing up nervous systems, less evolved with more evolved."


Manson also claimed to find justification in the book of Revelation
and the Beatles' White Album, though any genuine link with those
sources was purely a product of his twisted imagination. By contrast,
in The Descent of Man and elsewhere, Charles Darwin wrote of degrees
of racial superiority and of racial conflict and genocide as
inevitable features of biological evolution. Manson departed from
Darwinism in that he looked forward to the victory of the inferior
race over the white "pigs." The blacks would then turn over their
power to the Manson Family.

Manson follower Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme added:

"I never heard Charlie utter the words 'helter skelter,'" [but]
she went on to say that "it is a matter of evolution and balance" and
"the black people are coming to the top, as it should be."


Admittedly the context of Fromme's comment is a little ambiguous but
it seems to back up Jakobson's recollection.

No, obviously, as if it needs saying, I am not in any way blaming
gentle Charles Darwin for murderous Charles Manson. But the present
anniversary does remind us of another stitch, a bizarre one, in the
fabric of Darwinism's moral legacy.

Sanity's Little Helper

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Dec 27, 2009, 6:15:42 AM12/27/09
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It is an ancient Sound of Fuckwit <soundof...@dcemail.com>, and he
posteth:

> Charles Manson, Christ-like self-styled 'prophet'

IFYPFY.


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David Silverman
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duity, and any response as persecution

Not authentic without this signature.

Michael Grosberg

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:31:34 AM12/27/09
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On Dec 27, 12:01 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:
> http://blog.beliefnet.com/kingdomofpriests/2009/08/charles-manson-evo...

>
> Charles Manson, Evolutionist
>
> Categories: Life's Origins & Evolution

> Manson also claimed to find justification in the book of Revelation
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Charles Manson, Christian.

Thanks for the quote SOT!

raven1

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Dec 27, 2009, 8:36:23 AM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:01:30 -0800 (PST), Sound of Trumpet
<soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:

>Manson also claimed to find justification in the book of Revelation

Says it all.

Greg Goss

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:05:56 AM12/27/09
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Sound of Trumpet <soundof...@dcemail.com> wrote:

> What was Manson's attitude toward blacks?
>
> Gregg replied that Charlie "believed there were different levels
>when it came to race, and the white man occupied a higher level than
>the black." This was why Charlie was so strongly opposed to black-
>white sex; "you would be interfering with the path of evolution, you
>would be mixing up nervous systems, less evolved with more evolved."

> "I never heard Charlie utter the words 'helter skelter,'" [but]


>she went on to say that "it is a matter of evolution and balance" and
>"the black people are coming to the top, as it should be."

So, Manson believed in the survival of the not-so-fit, and their
dominance over the more fit. Doesn't sound like Darwin to me.

>No, obviously, as if it needs saying, I am not in any way blaming
>gentle Charles Darwin for murderous Charles Manson. But the present
>anniversary does remind us of another stitch, a bizarre one, in the
>fabric of Darwinism's moral legacy.

Perhaps if he had actually understood Darwin. Find the best genes and
marry 'em. Choosing skin colours and assigning a "level" to them is
absurd.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Jon Schild

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:22:38 AM12/27/09
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
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> Charles Manson, Evolutionist

Adolph Hitler, Christian

> Categories: Life's Origins & Evolution

Categories: Hate for those who are different

Mark Evans

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:45:17 AM12/27/09
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On Dec 27, 5:01 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@dcemail.com>
wrote:
> http://blog.beliefnet.com/kingdomofpriests/2009/08/charles-manson-evo...
SNIP

> Manson also claimed to find justification in the book of Revelation
> and the Beatles' White Album, though any genuine link with those
> sources was purely a product of his twisted imagination.
SNIP

Sooo... He was not a believer in the Bible when it is embarrassing to
you, then?

Mark Evans

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