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Bowler6611

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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I've heard a few posts about Melissa and her steroid use side effects, the last
photos of her I've seen she still looked the same, damn good to me!
What pics are we talking about that prove this claim?

T

squeeez

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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what pix?all of them!!!!!are you blind?

Tre' Scott

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Sep 15, 2000, 10:51:15 PM9/15/00
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"I've heard a few posts about Melissa and her steroid use side effects,
the last photos of her I've seen she still looked the same, damn good
to me! What pics are we talking about that prove this claim?"

She looks pretty ratty in all the shots I've seen since '96. The fried
hair, overinflated implants, and semi-permanent sneer on the face tell
sad tale...to some of us anyway.

--Tre'


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

jabber

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Sep 16, 2000, 2:19:09 AM9/16/00
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"Tre' Scott" <tres...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> She looks pretty ratty in all the shots I've seen since '96. The fried
> hair, overinflated implants, and semi-permanent sneer on the face tell
> sad tale...to some of us anyway.
>

Yep, that semi-permanent sneer you've seen is simply the way she looks at
you, Tre'. :-)

The fried hair and implants, as you know, have nothing to do with suspected
pharmaceuticals...

-jabber


Hank

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Sep 17, 2000, 12:00:36 AM9/17/00
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She was in a downward spiral going into '97. She was bitching about some
poor placements before the Miss "O" at the Olympia in NYC.
After her piss poor performance at the '97 Miss "O" she signed her own death
warrant at that one, what a sour puss and un-sportsman like behavior she
displayed, it was pathetic. Talking with her after the '97 Miss "O", I
remember thinking that her voice was changing, less feminine, more like a
female impersonator


fbbreader

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Sep 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/17/00
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1) Re Tre Scott's comments:

I recall when Melissa's message board opened up on DtV site Tre Scott was
one of the first to run there and splash on plenty of compliments about
Melissa. It was "Melissa this, Melissa that, you are so beautiful, you are
one of my favourites like Anja.. blah blah etc. etc."

Go and do a search od Dtv message archives to see what I mean.


So I guess this makes you a bit of a pathetic little fork-tongued girly
bitch then, right Tre ?????? If you felt so strongly about advising Melissa
on her appearance why did you not take the opportunity to tell her yourself
?

Whats up Tre, did you try and impress Melissa with your forked tongue and
usual bullshit but she wasn't having any of it I suspect so now you are
bitter.


Tre (whoever the fuck you are supposed to be anyway) clearly most people
tend to ignore your boring, stupid little assesments about particular women
as you clearly have nothing worth saying at all.


2) Itchy (Henry) you are a pathetic piece of doggy doo off the floor. You
are a turd, everyone thinks you are crap and stupid. You stink.

You obviously are extremely keen on Melissa, you wanted to know if she would
flex her traps for you as I recall ? SO WHY did you not ask her yourself,
instead of scrambling around throwing around nasty comments here like the
pathetic streak of piss on the floor that you are.

It makes me wonder if anyone here is really an fbb fan at all.

> From: Itchy <It...@scratch.org>
> Organization: It...@scratchme.com
> Newsgroups: alt.amazon-women.admirers
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:06:35 GMT
> Subject: Re: MELISSA COATES
>
> The fried hair and implants don't have anything to do with
> pharmaceuticals? AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
>
> How dumb are you? YOu must be a dead-head f**k.
>
> She looks like a f*cking freak now. She shot the juice until she turned
> into a freak, a bizarre manifestation of her former self. Wise up,
> a*hole.
>
>
>
>
> In article <xhEw5.8161$oc3.5...@news.flash.net>, "jabber"

Dr Arm®

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Sep 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/17/00
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Are you describing your mother or your girlfriend?

Itchy wrote:
>
> The fried hair and implants don't have anything to do with
> pharmaceuticals? AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
>
> How dumb are you? YOu must be a dead-head f**k.
>
> She looks like a f*cking freak now. She shot the juice until she turned
> into a freak, a bizarre manifestation of her former self. Wise up,
> a*hole.
>
> In article <xhEw5.8161$oc3.5...@news.flash.net>, "jabber"
> <jab...@flash.net> wrote:
>

Tre' Scott

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Sep 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/17/00
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Some wannabe tough-guy wrote:


"If you felt so strongly about advising Melissa on her appearance why did
you not take the opportunity to tell her yourself?"

What's the use? She made her choices, and she's living with them.

"Whats up Tre, did you try and impress Melissa with your forked tongue
and usual bullshit but she wasn't having any of it I suspect so now you
are bitter."

Only met the chick once, and that was *years* ago - back in '93 when she
was *very* attractive. Chatted a bit online, though, and she fell out of
favor with me when she got a serious attitude about some armwrestling
thing.

"Tre (whoever the fuck you are supposed to be anyway) clearly most people
tend to ignore your boring, stupid little assesments about particular
women as you clearly have nothing worth saying at all."

I'm the guy your woman is dreaming about...so, when you see that smile on
her face while she's sleeping, you'll know it's because of me.

ciao

--Tre', the troll-feeder, who reminds the anonymous troll-kids: "stay in
your sandboxes and you won't get hurt"

David B

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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It's sad, especially when you've seen Melissa in WPW when she was
way-less juiced up. She was, at that time, like a perfectly sexy curvy
female. She had a girl next door about her. Back then, to me, she looked
as natural and as good as Alpie Neuman (though with more muscle mass).

Melissa did, from what I've seen, take a nose dive, in about 1997, and
you made a good point-as did "Tre'. The turning point was around the
time of Nemisis 3. Maybe that's when it was, as I'm not sure.

I do know that her voice was a shock, to me, when I first heard it. It
was on an "Ironman Swimsuit Edition," and she had a very deep frog-like
voice.

And yeah, sadly, her hair became like straw. Her facial features lost
that near "perfect" blonde beauty appearance. Increasingly, she was
wearing lot more make up, and her boob job was so overdone that I'm
surprized that she hasn't had it corrected.

In fact, there was an interesting piece in Flex magazine, on her,
several months ago. It was a short blurb, and it showed her boobs almost
breaking out of her dress.

The sad caption, under the picture, said: "this picture shows that
wherever Melissa Coates is; she's soon to follow" (referring to her
boobs). And, even sadder, was Melissa's comments on her Message Board,
at Diana's site. Melissa encouraged her fans to write to Flex, so that
she'd get "more publicity??" She didn't know that the mag was making fun
of her.

One woman who started out like Melissa, was "Sue Price." If you saw her
early photos, you'd know how naturally gorgeous she had been. Now, as
with Melissa, all that's left of that naturally carved physique and
face, is an increase of muscle mass and all of the horrific side effects
of steroid use.

People who worship at the shrines of these women should get up close and
personal, and they'd see what a cock-sized clitoris looks like.They'd
know what it's like to feel hair growing from the ass of their "sex
object."

Some guys like drag, and many are here, and to each his own. But, I
agree with the people who remember the Melissa who remains in my memory.
And, sadly, her early pictures are almost too perfect for words.

D.



Poster

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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In article <20000915140721...@ng-cb1.aol.com>,

bowle...@aol.com (Bowler6611) wrote:
> I've heard a few posts about Melissa and her steroid use side
effects, the last
> photos of her I've seen she still looked the same, damn good to me!

When were they taken, 1996?

> What pics are we talking about that prove this claim?

You should see the more recent pics of her on her website.
Her nose has gotten a lot bigger, and if you look at the last
professional photos taken of her (she was in white lingerie
in a bedroom setting) her jaw had grown quite a bit. If you
saw her last appearance on "Montell Williams", she sounded like
a drag queen.

fbbreader

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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I really do wonder why it is so 'uncool' here to be a big Melissa fan. If
you do not like her particular physique, if you do not like the fact that
she is extremely attractive, or blonde, or is at the more popular-edge of
fbb then why not just ignore any posts to do with her. Same why I ignore ANY
posts to do with Annie Riviecco, Yolanda Hughes, Sheila Burgess, Christi
Wolf and a few others as there are several fbbs that do 'nothing' for me and
leave me cold, it does not mean that I do not appreciate them.

It is really very boring, and pathetic and cowardly to read all this stupid
criticism and mean spirited shit foisted on Melissa which must be quite
hurtful for her to read (though I am sure she does not read anything in this
dump) and it is equally hurtful to her fans.

How would you people like it if we started attacking your wives or
girlfriends for being fat, ugly and boring and held them up to ridicule for
their appearance and worthlessness as human beings?

Someone else mentioned the photo in Flex from a few moths back:

By her own addmission it is a weak photo of her when she was still quite ill
and recovering from surgery. The amusing caption under the photo is just
that: an amusing caption, it is not meant as a dig at her, but may reflect a
generally attitude that BB mags have towards the women these days.

And personally I do not share the pointlessly purist view in this NG
regarding breast augmentation to me they look fantastic on fbbs. If I see a
nude photo or topless photo of fbb and she is intensely flat chested then I
find that an ***extreme**** turn off.

Indicentally. there are no recent pics of Melissa on her site, most recent
is about 1 1/2 - 2 years old.

Regards

Bill Dobbins

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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All that crap about Melissa and steroid use is....just that, crap. The changes
you see in Melissa are mostly due to plastic surgery. I don't think she needed
it...she was beautiful to begin with...but she thought so and went ahead with
the procedures.

More anti-female bodybuilder hostility showing itself again.

BD

JOHN WARNER

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Sep 18, 2000, 8:50:15 PM9/18/00
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I must disagree with this assessment. Melissa's biggest problem is her
height. Unforunately, she's somewahat short which I hear works against her.
There are those in "the Great White North" that note Ms O has always been an
American altho I can't believe that was true.


Hank wrote in message ...

Bill Dobbins

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Sep 18, 2000, 9:48:51 PM9/18/00
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Melissa is not short. At her last Arnold, she was simply way too
depleted...the looked that way in the gym on Wednesday before the contest, and
that way on stage too. Everything else had improved...for example, her waist
was much smaller. If she had not dieted so hard or stopped the extreme diet
some days earlier, she would have been right at the top. But she ended up not
only looking depleted but lacked the energy to do a good posing routine.

I have seen and photographed Melissa for years and have no idea where all this
drug talk is coming from.

BD

jabber

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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"Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
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>
> I have seen and photographed Melissa for years and have no idea where all
this
> drug talk is coming from.
>

True, Bill, you MAY not know where this drug talk is coming from, but you DO
know where your paycheck is coming from. Party on, dude (just realize you
undermine your credibility each time you say carp like this)...

-jabber

jabber

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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Although a little harsh on my former buddy, Tre', good points, fbbreader.
Tre' thinks he's being SO nice and saccharine sweet to folks in person.
Those with higher IQ's (or over 21) generally see what he's doing, realize
he means well, but don't fall for it, those other folks? Ah...

-jabber


jabber

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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"Itchy" <It...@scratch.org> wrote in message
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> The fried hair and implants don't have anything to do with
> pharmaceuticals? AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
>
Dude, so if, like, I take MONSTER doses of steroids, I won't need to go to
the plastic surgeon to get these silicone sacks put inside my chest?

Dude, get real... As far as fried hair, that's more a prob with her
hairstylist and pH balance I believe. :-)

-jabber


Bill Dobbins

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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I've seen a lot of strange comments on this group, but I have no idea what this
one means. What does how I earn a living have to do with what Melissa looks
like? And does pointing out how attractive Melissa is, and how un-drug like
she looks, constitute carping or undermine my credibility?

BD

jabber wrote:

> "Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:39C6C603...@gte.net...
> >

> > I have seen and photographed Melissa for years and have no idea where all
> this
> > drug talk is coming from.
> >

fbbreader

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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Yeah Bill, thanks for sharing the pic of Melissa

it is fantastic and she is incredibly beautiful.

> From: Leowyn <leo...@uswest.net>
> Organization: A & N Glass Etching
> Reply-To: leo...@uswest.net
> Newsgroups:
> alt.amazon-women.admirers,alt.binaries.fitness.centerfolds,alt.binaries.pictur
> es.erotica.female.bodybuilder,alt.amazon-women
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:34:23 -0500
> Subject: Re: MELISSA COATES
>
> Bill Dobbins wrote:
>>
>> Certainly one of the most beautiful women in bodybuilding.
>>
>> Bill Dobbins
>> The Female Physique Webzine/Gallery
>> <http://www.billdobbins.com>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> [Image]
>
>
> Thanks Bill.
> Now I can see what everyone is talking about in all their posts. That
> is one grotesque, ugly freak of a steroid queen.
> Oh, sorry, I was looking at itchy's picture.
> Melissa looks as fantastic as ever. She is gorgeous.
>
> Leowyn


jabber

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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"Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> I've seen a lot of strange comments on this group, but I have no idea what
this
> one means. What does how I earn a living have to do with what Melissa
looks
> like? And does pointing out how attractive Melissa is, and how un-drug
like
> she looks, constitute carping or undermine my credibility?
>
> BD
>
Okay, lemme answer. You have a "vested" interest in what you say about the
females, Mr. Dobbins. I'm sure you realize that. What you do has NOTHING
to do with how Melissa looks - except for when she's specifically doing a
photoshoot with you (then you DO have control to an extent on the way she is
presented), but it's not how she looks, but how you're saying she looks
that's the issue, Bill.

Dude, we see pics, we have eyes, we need you NOT to interpret what we see -
we're smart enough to process that information.

I personally agree that she's "attractive" but the rest of what you say?
LOL...

-jabber

Bill Dobbins

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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I see...you are accusing me of being dishonest and promoting Melissa even
though I really don't think she is attractive? On what could you possibly base
such an opinion. I have many hundreds of women on my site and have made no
special deal with Melissa. I merely responded when people kept talking about
Melissa as if she looked differently than she really does. I gave my opinion
and posted a photo to back it up. What on earth is wrong with that?

I am reminded of what has happened with Kim Chizevsky. Year by year she
managed to get more aesthetic, to create a chisled, symmetrical physique and to
tremendously improve her overall appearance, including hair and make up and no
lines on her face - and the IFBB and many of the fans totally ignored her
achievement. A lot of people tend to see what they believe - or in the case of
female bodybuilding to form opinions without actually having seen the
competitor involve or even that many photos of her.

Melissa is still one of the most attractive women in the sport and all this
talk about drug-induced changes in her appearances are just nonsense. Simple
as that. Okay?

BD

Tre' Scott

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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"Okay, lemme answer. You have a 'vested' interest in what you say about
the females, Mr. Dobbins. I'm sure you realize that."


Jabber, you're a professional photographer. Does this mean that you no
longer have any credibility either?

Tre' Scott

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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"good points"

Whatever, Jabber - my opinion is that Melissa changed (or revealed
another side of herself) once she started doing sessions all the time.
Blame it on the rain or whatever you will, I don't care. I didn't like
the person she became, so there's no need to pretend otherwise.

Sure, you still like her and you two get along, but then, I never paid
her money just to hang out with me.

Ssscold

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Sep 19, 2000, 8:22:59 PM9/19/00
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<< Jabber, you're a professional photographer. >>


No, seriously, since when?

Dr Arm®

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Sep 19, 2000, 8:55:26 PM9/19/00
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jabber wrote:
>
> "Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:39C6C603...@gte.net...

> >
> > I have seen and photographed Melissa for years and have no idea where all
> this
> > drug talk is coming from.
> >
> True, Bill, you MAY not know where this drug talk is coming from, but you DO
> know where your paycheck is coming from. Party on, dude (just realize you
> undermine your credibility each time you say carp like this)...
>
> -jabber


Well said, jabber. Caught him again.

And you didn't even mention all that talk about his homosexuality!

da

Dr Arm®

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Sep 19, 2000, 9:36:51 PM9/19/00
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Tre' Scott wrote:
>
> "Okay, lemme answer. You have a 'vested' interest in what you say about
> the females, Mr. Dobbins. I'm sure you realize that."
>
> Jabber, you're a professional photographer. Does this mean that you no
> longer have any credibility either?

You're missing the core of jabber's statement and are talking around it.

jabber made his point when he refrained from mentioning anthing
concerning any talk of Bill Dobbins homosexuality. To do so would have
been the same infraction as he (rightly) accuses Dobbins of.

The photography is only incidental to the disguised slandering that he
caught Dobbins at.

jabber is pretty sharp here, even if he strains to explain himself to
you. Personally I think that explanation was unnecessary, you have to be
responsible for developing your own intellegence, not jabber.

Or me.


da

jabber

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Sep 19, 2000, 11:43:30 PM9/19/00
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"Tre' Scott" <tres...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Whatever, Jabber - my opinion is that Melissa changed (or revealed
> another side of herself) once she started doing sessions all the time.
>
Personally, that's a reasoned response, Tre'. You're entitled to that.

>
> Blame it on the rain or whatever you will, I don't care. I didn't like
> the person she became, so there's no need to pretend otherwise.
>
Again, that's fine.

>
> Sure, you still like her and you two get along, but then, I never paid
> her money just to hang out with me.
>
Interesting, because actually she's someone I've never had a session with.
I "almost" did at the '00 Ms. I, but didn't due to scheduling difficulties -
both of ours.

So I can be "unbiased"... Later,

-jabber

jabber

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Sep 19, 2000, 11:57:30 PM9/19/00
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"Tre' Scott" <tres...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>
> Jabber, you're a professional photographer. Does this mean that you no
> longer have any credibility either?
>

No, I'm just stating Bill Dobbins cannot talk from the heart about anyone.
He cannot (or will not) give his real opinions. Instead, he'll cloak them
in a verbosity that's designed to conceal and/or misconstrue.

Don't get me wrong, LOTS of what he says makes sense. But when things
don't, I merely point them out.

Feel free to point out if and when I ever don't make sense, too, Tre'.
Party on, dude...

-jabber


Bill Dobbins

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Sep 20, 2000, 12:00:49 AM9/20/00
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You haven't pointed out anything I said that didn't make sense. You are
simply assuming dishonestly without any justification. When I don't have
anything good to say about physique women, I generally don't say anything at
all. So when I say something positive I mean it.

BD

jabber

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Sep 20, 2000, 12:04:46 AM9/20/00
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"Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> I see...you are accusing me of being dishonest and promoting Melissa even
> though I really don't think she is attractive?
>
Dude, your premise is almost too stupid to bother responding to here. Why
exactly would Melissa Coates have facial plastic surgery since back in the
early 90's she was one of the MOST attractive female bodybuilders around
facially ever? She was DARN cute!

Perhaps the simple-minded may think I'm against Ms. Coates. No, I'm not,
never was. I like her and wish her the best. But I'm not gonna say
inherently stupid shit about a female the way you are, Bill.

Instead, there were be "planned" controlled "silences" on certain subjects.
Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove
all doubt. Ever heard that phrase?


>
> On what could you possibly base
> such an opinion.
>

I'm saying you've said stupid contradicting stuff here, Bill, and you'd be
better off not saying silly stuff here. I know how you hate when folks tell
you what to do, so I'm not tellin', merely suggesting...


>
> Melissa is still one of the most attractive women in the sport and all
this
> talk about drug-induced changes in her appearances are just nonsense.
Simple
> as that. Okay?
>

No, it's not, Bill. No it's NOT that simple. But I will cease and desist
here because I am a true fan of FBB's (as are you) and love the look of
Melissa Coates (just not as well as say 5 years ago) and love the look of
Kim Chizevsky before she did the downsizing.

Problem, Bill, is you oft forget who you are talking to. I don't carp about
women getting too big, I love that look, and think there's NO such thing as
a female being too muscular.

Get your folks straight in your mind and you'll be fine after all.

-jabber


jabber

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Sep 20, 2000, 12:35:33 AM9/20/00
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"Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> You haven't pointed out anything I said that didn't make sense. You are
> simply assuming dishonestly without any justification. When I don't have
> anything good to say about physique women, I generally don't say anything
at
> all. So when I say something positive I mean it.
>
Bill, I don't doubt your sincerity when you say you like Ms. Coates. I
apologize if that's what you thought I was carping on. No, you're sincere
there.

What I do doubt is when you talk about the reasons why certain women look
certain ways. Dude, I don't wanna come out and say it. And not saying
anything when you don't like someone, generally that's good, too.

BTW, Christine Fetzer said to say hi. :-)

-jabber (who apologizes for dropping a name :-) )


Bill Dobbins

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Sep 20, 2000, 1:01:36 AM9/20/00
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Melissa went in for breast enlagement and decided to have more done...probably
due to insecurity. We can see she is beautiful, but she may not have shared
that view. People can be like that. I'm just supposing, but at least I'm
labeling it as that.

BD

GLEN O. ROBERTSON

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates have
to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are what
make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .


"Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
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GLEN O. ROBERTSON

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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Another comment about homosexuality from everyone's favorite idiot Dr.Arm .

How infatuated with Bill Dobbins are you ? This news group is about
beautiful muscular women , I am sure there are some news groups with your
sexual preference that you would enjoy more


"Dr Arm®" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
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Cary Jacobs

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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Most guys like women. Some guys like other guys (ick). Apparently you,
DrCoward, like beanbag chairs... Uh, well, whatever floats your boat...

"
Yeah, another vote for the beanbag chair here.

da
"


Bill Dobbins

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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I love it. For years people were assuming I was hitting on all my models
(Blasco, for example) and now, because I don't hit on my models, I'm gay?
Sorry boys...if you're looking for a date, I ain't interested.

BD

"GLEN O. ROBERTSON" wrote:

> What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates have
> to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are what
> make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
> mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .
>

> "Dr Arm®" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message

> news:39C814...@Armory.arm...

jabber

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"Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> Melissa went in for breast enlagement and decided to have more
done...probably
> due to insecurity. We can see she is beautiful, but she may not have
shared
> that view. People can be like that. I'm just supposing, but at least I'm
> labeling it as that.
>
Supposing (and labeling it as such) is just fine, Bill. But you also stated
something about her having facial surgeries, also, when someone suggested
there was a different reason for facial changes.

Now I see you backing down from that (wise decision). Don't MAKE me break
out dejaNews (or simply an old post) to prove my point.

Thanks,

-jabber

Bill Dobbins

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I don't know why Melissa thought she need changes to her face. She looked fine
to me. But I shoot a lot of women who make some strange decisons regarding
plastic surgery.

BD

jabber wrote:

> "Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message

> news:39C844AE...@gte.net...


> > Melissa went in for breast enlagement and decided to have more
> done...probably
> > due to insecurity. We can see she is beautiful, but she may not have
> shared
> > that view. People can be like that. I'm just supposing, but at least I'm
> > labeling it as that.
> >

jabber

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"Bill Dobbins" <bill...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> I don't know why Melissa thought she need changes to her face. She looked
fine
> to me. But I shoot a lot of women who make some strange decisons
regarding
> plastic surgery.
>
Yes, you do know, and agreed, she DID look great before, and agreed, some
women DO make very strange decisions (one need only look at the popularity
of implants and tattoos as two great examples of insanity).

Sorry for being opinionated, but that's me...

-jabber

Dr Arm®

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Sep 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/21/00
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You really are a functional idiot.

In case you didn't read for comprehension, I did not call Dobbins a
homosexual.

If you ever finish grade school reread the post.

Stupid.


GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:
>
> What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates have
> to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are what
> make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
> mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .
>

> "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> news:39C814...@Armory.arm...

Dr Arm®

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Sep 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/21/00
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Another comment against homosexuality from everybody's least liked
homosexual, ROBERTSON.

da


>
> Another comment about homosexuality from everyone's favorite idiot Dr.Arm .
>
> How infatuated with Bill Dobbins are you ? This news group is about
> beautiful muscular women , I am sure there are some news groups with your
> sexual preference that you would enjoy more
>

> "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message

> news:39C80A...@Armory.arm...

GLEN O. ROBERTSON

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On the contrary fool supreme (Dr.Arm ) your post did deliberately imply Bill
Dobbins was a homosexual . Your posts mention gay themes constantly which
does raise questions about your sexual preference you idiot .
There is one thing all of the human race could agree on ! You Dr. Arm are a
complete imbecile with the character and dignity of a cockroach !

"Dr Arm®" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
news:39C96E...@Armory.arm...


> You really are a functional idiot.
>
> In case you didn't read for comprehension, I did not call Dobbins a
> homosexual.
>
> If you ever finish grade school reread the post.
>
> Stupid.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:
> >
> > What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates
have
> > to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are
what
> > make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
> > mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .
> >

> > "Dr Arm®" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> > news:39C814...@Armory.arm...

Bill Dobbins

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Sep 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/21/00
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If I were the gayest guy on earth, I'd look for a sheep before having sex with
Dr. Arm.

BD

"GLEN O. ROBERTSON" wrote:

> On the contrary fool supreme (Dr.Arm ) your post did deliberately imply Bill
> Dobbins was a homosexual . Your posts mention gay themes constantly which
> does raise questions about your sexual preference you idiot .
> There is one thing all of the human race could agree on ! You Dr. Arm are a
> complete imbecile with the character and dignity of a cockroach !
>

> "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message


> news:39C96E...@Armory.arm...
> > You really are a functional idiot.
> >
> > In case you didn't read for comprehension, I did not call Dobbins a
> > homosexual.
> >
> > If you ever finish grade school reread the post.
> >
> > Stupid.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:
> > >
> > > What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates
> have
> > > to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are
> what
> > > make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
> > > mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .
> > >

> > > "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> > > news:39C814...@Armory.arm...

David B

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Sep 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/21/00
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Jabber-
Is this the BD who photographs steroid and drag queens? If so, naturally
he'll deny making mony off of colluding with their denial about steroid
use.

It's just amazing how people will see what they want to see. If you
pulled down Nicole Bass' underwear, BD would deny that she had grown a
dick!

If BD was a stock broker, he'd deny that the nasdaq ever went into a
bear market!

ANYONE WHO DOESN'T SEE STEROID USE, IN AN NPC OR IFBB TOP PLACER,
CLOSING HIS (or her) EYES!! And, though it's highly fashionable to deny
any steroid use (and mere posession constitutes a felony), it's best not
to comment unless you can prove otherwise.
Obviously, to those who know anything back stage, it takes steroids to
make a "placer" in the women's NPC and IFBB. True, most get started at
the encouragement of their trainers, boyfriends and/or husbands. But,
irresponsible journalism, that which aspires to hide the obvious, is
harmful to the health of these women.

When you feel the stubbles, from a freshly shaved ass of a steroided fem
bb'er, you'll begin to wonder what you've been masturbating all about.
Before that, happens, if you're lucky enough to see that all that
glitters isn't gold, remember that women don't look like Melissa (or
those much much bigger), w/o chemicals.

Whether BD knows it or not,he's in big denial at the expense of his
clients' health. Until guys know what the symptoms of usage are, or
until they see the hairy asses and dick sized clits, they'll never stop
thinking that girls like Melissa are "natural."

One footnote: I've seen the other Melissa, the one who was pre-steroid.
Her voice was soft, and she had a magically feminine look. But even
after steroids, she still, as many other steroided women do, carried
much of that sex appeal.

Most of the women that BD photographs are still awfully sexy and
beautiful. Much about them is very feminine. Their health and looks have
been compromized, but they still have a lot of good looks about them.
Obviously, I'm not referring to Nicole Bass or the like.

D.



Bill Dobbins

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Sep 21, 2000, 9:32:59 PM9/21/00
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Another dude with too much time on his hands.

Dr Arm®

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Sep 21, 2000, 10:18:16 PM9/21/00
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Only for the retarded. Fool, only for you.


GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:
>
> On the contrary fool supreme (Dr.Arm ) your post did deliberately imply Bill
> Dobbins was a homosexual . Your posts mention gay themes constantly which
> does raise questions about your sexual preference you idiot .
> There is one thing all of the human race could agree on ! You Dr. Arm are a
> complete imbecile with the character and dignity of a cockroach !
>
> "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> news:39C96E...@Armory.arm...
> > You really are a functional idiot.
> >
> > In case you didn't read for comprehension, I did not call Dobbins a
> > homosexual.
> >
> > If you ever finish grade school reread the post.
> >
> > Stupid.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:
> > >
> > > What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates
> have
> > > to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are
> what
> > > make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
> > > mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .
> > >
> > > "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> > > news:39C814...@Armory.arm...

Dr Arm®

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Sep 21, 2000, 10:19:33 PM9/21/00
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And you would enjoy the sheep before you sufffered as the bride of Dr
Arm.

da


Bill Dobbins wrote:
>
> If I were the gayest guy on earth, I'd look for a sheep before having sex with
> Dr. Arm.
>
> BD
>

> "GLEN O. ROBERTSON" wrote:
>
> > On the contrary fool supreme (Dr.Arm ) your post did deliberately imply Bill
> > Dobbins was a homosexual . Your posts mention gay themes constantly which
> > does raise questions about your sexual preference you idiot .
> > There is one thing all of the human race could agree on ! You Dr. Arm are a
> > complete imbecile with the character and dignity of a cockroach !
> >
> > "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> > news:39C96E...@Armory.arm...
> > > You really are a functional idiot.
> > >
> > > In case you didn't read for comprehension, I did not call Dobbins a
> > > homosexual.
> > >
> > > If you ever finish grade school reread the post.
> > >
> > > Stupid.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates
> > have
> > > > to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are
> > what
> > > > make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
> > > > mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .
> > > >
> > > > "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> > > > news:39C814...@Armory.arm...

Dr Arm®

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Sep 21, 2000, 10:24:07 PM9/21/00
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Then you are starting to get the fuckin' point, stupid.

Talk about Dobbins homosexuality is just as inflamatory as Dobbins
statement regarding "talk about Mellisa's drug use".

Get it yet, stupid? Or do you need even MORE explanation?

My money is on "you're still not there yet".

You really are stupid, I bet you're a Democrat.

Dr Arm®

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Sep 21, 2000, 10:25:45 PM9/21/00
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I'm sure you would: It would not be your first experience with the
sheep.

It would be a first for Dr Arm.

da


Bill Dobbins wrote:
>
> If I were the gayest guy on earth, I'd look for a sheep before having sex with
> Dr. Arm.
>
> BD
>

> "GLEN O. ROBERTSON" wrote:
>
> > On the contrary fool supreme (Dr.Arm ) your post did deliberately imply Bill
> > Dobbins was a homosexual . Your posts mention gay themes constantly which
> > does raise questions about your sexual preference you idiot .
> > There is one thing all of the human race could agree on ! You Dr. Arm are a
> > complete imbecile with the character and dignity of a cockroach !
> >
> > "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message
> > news:39C96E...@Armory.arm...
> > > You really are a functional idiot.
> > >
> > > In case you didn't read for comprehension, I did not call Dobbins a
> > > homosexual.
> > >
> > > If you ever finish grade school reread the post.
> > >
> > > Stupid.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What the heck does Bill Dobbins statement about lovely Melissa Coates
> > have
> > > > to do with homosexuality ? Perhaps your feelings for Bill Dobbins are
> > what
> > > > make you so hostile towards him ? Still in the closet Dr. Arm ? You
> > > > mention gay or homosexual comments in almost all your posts .
> > > >

> > > > "Dr ArmŽ" <Ar...@Armory.arm> wrote in message

> > > > news:39C814...@Armory.arm...

BJS 0809

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Sep 22, 2000, 12:08:31 AM9/22/00
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< If you saw her last appearance on "Montell Williams", she sounded like
a drag queen.>

And if you saw and heard Melissa talk in 1993 when she first came on the scene,
when everybody is in agreement that she looked awesome, she had the same deep
voice then.


BJS 0809

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Sep 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/23/00
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Melissa is only 5'3 or 5'4, not exactly tall when you are talking about a 5'7
or 5'8 Kim Chivesky. Though Lenda Murray at only 5'5 seemed to do pretty well
and then there was Cory Everson's dominance for years and she is 5'8 or 5'9, so
height does seem to help a little anyway.

Bill Dobbins

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Sep 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/23/00
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This is absolute, unmitigated hogwash. Melissa has decided for reasons of her
own to get plastic surgery on her face, primarily a nose job. I don't think
she needed it. She looked fine. In any event, there is no such thing as the
kind of "cranial changes" from steroid use alluded to here. This post is such
total bullshit I'm sorry it is necessary to respond to it at all. However,
there are probably people monitoring this newsgroup who don't really know what
Melissa looks like and aren't knowledgable about the effects of steroid use and
might think these accusations against Melissa could be true.

Total nonsense. Medically impossible. Idiocy. Not to be taken seriously.
Given this kind of opinion, please don't even bother to read any posts from
this "Itchy." Waste of time.

BD

Itchy wrote:

> You know better than that.
>
> I'm not talking about the pec sacks. I'm talking about her distorted,
> disfigured face.
>
> C'mon, jabber, you used to be better than that. What happened?
>
> You know damned well that is what I was talking about. Her entire
> cranial structure has been disfigured. All the proof anyone needs is
> right in the pictures. Is it any wonder that we cannot see current pix
> of her at melissacoates.net?
>
> I think not. Which makes me think that she knows what the rest of us
> are thinking. She does not want to show us current pix, because she is
> so horrendously roided-out with that big pug nose and jut-browed,
> jut-jawed face that she cannot accept it.
>
> If I'm wrong, Mel, then I'm wrong. I would apologize profusely. But
> everything that you have done, everything that you have shown, suggests
> otherwise.
>
> It is not up to me to clear this problem. It is up to her.
>
> Itch
>
> In article <2mGx5.1762$864....@news.flash.net>, "jabber"
> <jab...@flash.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Itchy" <It...@scratch.org> wrote in message
> >>news:170920001317523886%It...@scratch.org...
> >>> The fried hair and implants don't have anything to do with
> >>> pharmaceuticals? AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
> >>>
> >>Dude, so if, like, I take MONSTER doses of steroids, I won't need to go to
> >>the plastic surgeon to get these silicone sacks put inside my chest?
> >>
> >>Dude, get real... As far as fried hair, that's more a prob with her
> >>hairstylist and pH balance I believe. :-)
> >>
> >>-jabber


Bill Dobbins

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Sep 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/23/00
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Melissa is not too short. She looked terrific at her last Arnold and would have
done well except she was way over dieted and too depleted. Unfortunately, she
didn't continue on competing in this same kind of shape or else she'd still be in
the top competitive ranks.

BD

Cary Jacobs

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Sep 23, 2000, 9:56:22 PM9/23/00
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I think just about anyone would prefer the company of sheep instead of
DrCoward. Even the sheep.

Cary Jacobs

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Sep 23, 2000, 9:57:26 PM9/23/00
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Yes, well, we won't mention your "gerbil brigade", sha'nt we, DrCoward...

Cary Jacobs

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Sep 23, 2000, 10:00:49 PM9/23/00
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One second you're denying you called Dobbins a homosexual, and the next
you're saying you did. Make up what's left of your mind, please.


Only for the retarded. Fool, only for you.

GLEN O. ROBERTSON wrote:

BJS 0809

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Sep 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/25/00
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"One footnote: I've seen the other Melissa, the one who was pre-steroid.
Her voice was soft, and she had a magically feminine look. But even
after steroids, she still, as many other steroided women do, carried
much of that sex appeal. "

When did you ever hear Melissa's voice being soft ? I have the WPW video of her
from 1993, when she was absolutely stunning and looked feminine and her voice
then was deep too.

Dr Arm®

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Sep 25, 2000, 11:13:00 PM9/25/00
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Drumhellor under another name. Obviously.

da

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