Subject: The Lost Years. Part 2.
Jan. 29, 2012.
Here it talks about how wealthy his family was.
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Graham D-wyea: Hi, Je--s, this is Graham. We seem to have dropped
Steve's call, so I'm going to monitor the panel here so that when he
comes in I can bring him back on. And I invite you, if you'd like, to use
this time to speak further of Ascension or any other comments you'd
like to share.
Thank you.
J: I would like to begin with what Steve has asked me about my early
years, about my life as a child and as a young man, as an adult coming
of age. And I want to begin by telling you, I had an incredible life as
Jes--, as Yeshua. I had an incredible family. Yes, both above and below.
And that is where so much confusion often occurs.
But I and my human family, and my beloved mother and my beloved father,
and yes, my siblings, my extended family, they were so supportive since
the day I was conceived. And yes, of course, it was known, although it
was kept in many ways quiet - although it could not be kept that quiet,
because I was quite adventurous. They supported my journey, and of
course that is why I had been sent to this family in such exceptional
circumstances.
At a very early age, around five, five and a half, I was completely, can
I say, reunited or filled with the H-ly S-irit. That full reconnection to
Father-Mother One, what you think of as G-d or Source, what I think of
as Mother-Ho-y Sp-rit, took place.(2)
And so that awareness and that connection, that knowing, and what
you would think of as information, was available to me from the start,
or from the very early age.
But I was also of a very educated family, and one that placed great
value - not just my mother or father, but my entire family - who placed
value on the learning, and what you can think of as the s-cred
learnings, of both Hebrew, certainly of the Laws, the Laws as a J-w,
but also the universal laws. So I learned not just the languages of
Greek, and I travelled.
There is - and I have spoken in other situations about my learning to
assist my father in this, what you would now think of as construction
business. He was far more than just a humble carpenter, although
that is the job that he took or assumed when we first returned to
Nazareth. But through these family ties I was brought to study
and exposed to many scholars and many different points of view,
including the Eastern philosophies.
My cousin, my beloved cousin John, who I loved as a brother, with
him we studied and became familiar with the Essenes. So the
exposure was brought.
The difficulty was very often that I would correct my teachers, or
I would challenge my teachers, not in a way that was offensive,
for I was a very polite boy, and even a more polite young man. I
did not ever wish really to draw great attention to myself. But
what I could not understand sometimes was when there was a
point of law or a point of philosophy that I knew was either
incomplete or not rounded or even incorrect, I would ask about
it. And it was wonderful. This is the gift of being trained in a true
scholastic environment: it is not just about obeying or obedience
or adherence - and that is also the message that I would give to
our fundamentalist friends, or any -ism - it is about exploring.
But it is about exploring from the inner knowing, and from your
connection, because there is no being - no being - on Earth
that is not touched or gifted with the wisdom, the energy, of
the Ho-y Spi-it. It is available, and it is truly gifted to many. Yes,
you can turn away and say no, but that has never been
understood - not while I was in human form, and not really now.
It always comes back to this situation of self-loathing or
self-worth, the lack of self-worth.
Now, you would say to me, Yeshua, if you were filled with the
connection and the knowing, why was it necessary for you to
be prepared in this way? My parents - particularly my mother,
a very astute woman - it wasn't just the value of education and
culture. She knew that I would move in and amongst the people,
in and amongst the cultures, and that in order to have credibility
in my teachings, as I entered my more public life, that there
would need to be a full understanding and an acculturation into
these belief systems, even those that I did not completely agree
with.
And that would be necessary in order for me to be accepted
amongst my people. Because, although my message was
universal, and always has been, it was to the people of the Je-ish
faith, those who had been promised and who were looking for a
savior, a messiah, for a leader to take them out of this bondage,
to make them what they thought would be leaders of the world.
But of course it is not of this world that I lead you. Yes, I teach
you, I guide you, I help you. I help you every single day, whether
you know it or not. I help you to maneuver and to deal with this
world that you live in.
Whether you feel that you are on top of the world, on top of
your journey, on top of your game, or whether you are lost, I am
still with you, and I am guiding you. And I have many voices, and
even many faces, but they have always been the same message.
So, now, Steve?
S: Yes, I'm back
J: We welcome you back.
S: Thank you. Graham, could you just orient me to where we are
in the questions?
G: Absolutely. Welcome back.
S: Well, thank you.
G: --sus was just talking about his upbringing and childhood,
and just continued on your original question around Ascension.
S: Okay. So have we asked you, Lo-d, about the manner of your
birth yet?
J: What do you want to know about my birth?
S: I take it we haven't asked that question. Well, the problem
is that some people say you weren't born in a manger or a stable,
that you in fact didn't come from parents of a humble and poor
background humble obviously but that instead you came from
a well established family. They weren't poor by any means.
Which version is correct, Lo-d?
J: We have known good times and bad. I was of a very
well-established family. Let me make that very clear. And the
establishment of our family was in the lineage, and yes, position,
not just in terms of wealth, but in terms of heritage, of respect.
Were my parents humble? Absolutely. For they could not have
brought me forward if they were not. But as I was saying, in my
family there was a tradition, and a deep respect, and yes, in
your society you would say an expectation, of what an
upbringing would be, and what that would be entailing in
terms of training and scholarship, education, exposure,
acculturation.
Now, when I was born, when I took form, let us put it that way,
upon this beautiful Earth, it was during a time of mass migration
and confusion. And it wasn't what you would think of, has been
romanticized as, a stable, a manger, but it was in a very
humble situation, where there was a back room, yes, where
animals were close by.
But that was not unusual, you know. So yes, in that situation,
because of the requirements of g-vernment, I was born as
[laughs] somewhat of a displaced person. But my family, my
family was what you would think of as a very well-placed
lineage.
S: Well, that's very helpful. When your parents left Israel, where
exactly did they go? What part of Egypt - I think it was Egypt
- did they go to?
J: We went to a small village just outside what you would
think of now as Alexandria. It was very humble. But then
again there was family. So you have to understand, in our
society, as in many of yours, the family took care of us. So
it was not that I was in any way, or that our family was in
any way, deprived. That simply was not the case at all. We had
comfort.
My mother tended, in the beginning - well, always, really,
but - to be what I would say would be very protective. She
did not want to have me exposed to too many people in a
strange and foreign place.
She often feared that, should people know of the promise of
my being, that it would place me in harm's way. And so I
was kept very close in the early, early years, not that I
would wish to go anywhere anyway. But she kept me very
close by her side within the family compound.
S: All right. And the Aquarian Gospel describes you as coming
into contact with the Egyptian hierophants. Did you in fact take
a course of study with the Egyptian priests while in Egypt?
J: Yes, I did. As I have said
S: Like the description?
J: Yes, we have. But understand what I say, because I came
into my knowing, into the fulfillment with the Hol- Spiri-, at a
very, very early age. And so yes, I studied with the high priests
and was exposed to their belief systems. The Egyptians, later
-the Greeks, the Romans to some extent, although that did not
really have great impact at all, but the early times, and the
understandings of the workings of the universe, the role of a
priest in society was embedded from those early teachings in
Egypt.
But it was - also there were studies with the Hebrew scholars
as well. I learned Greek. I studied many cultures, and especially
from the East, from that tradition, which was common, not
unusual, in my family. But it did not - it did not cause
contradiction, because there is no contradiction.
Yes, you may ask your question.
Part 2.
John Winston.
joh...@mlode.com