So what exactly Is a UFO anyway - Here's what the CIA/NSA/DIA/Northrop and Lockheed thinks!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
For confirmed skeptics, UFO sightings are no problem. In their opinion
these can only be the mistaken identification of weather balloons,
helicopters, meteorites, rockets, satellites or planets, etc.
Otherwise, in the skeptics' opinion, UFOs are actually hoaxes invented
by fame-hungry swindlers to acquire prominence. On the other hand,
there is a front of uncritical UFO fans who are frequently victims of
their own wishful thinking, and see in everything a manifestation of
ambassadors from a "cosmic brotherhood," who have come to the earth to
save humanity from destruction.
And then there are a few who deal with the phenomena in a sober and
unprejudiced manner, and because of that are often thrown into the
same pot with members of the superstitious "UFO cults" (by the self-
appointed "popes" of authority). But there are numerous well-
documented cases, confirmed by earnest witnesses, which indicate that,
in fact, something is going on in the sky, which cannot be explained
by conventional means, and behind which more and more recognized
experts see the activity of extraterrestrial intelligence.
Experts define "UFO" as "unidentified flying object" whose appearance,
flying characteristics, general dynamics and luminescent properties
cannot be explained in a conventional manner. The astrophysicist J.
Allen Hynek, who was for years advisor to the U.S. Air Force in the
matter of UFOs, worked out a classification system for UFO sightings,
which covers the entire spectrum of the phenomenon:
1. NL. Nocturnal light. A light that appears during the night.
2. DD. Daylight disc. A disc observed during daylight; mostly disc-
shaped although spheres, cigars and triangles have been described.
3. RV. Radar visual. The sighted objects were also picked up by radar.
4. CE-1. Close encounter of the first kind. A report of a structured
object or craft seen at relatively near distance, approximately four
hundred feet or less.
5. CE-2. Close encounter of the second kind. A report where some
measurable evidence is found at the site of a UFO after it has
departed.
6. CE-3. Close encounter of the third kind. A report including both a
structured craft seen at near distance and also "occupants" of some
kind somehow associated with the craft.
7. CE-4. Close encounter of the fourth kind. Personal contact between
an individual or group is initiated by the "occupants" of the
spacecraft. (After Hynek)
8. CE-5. Close encounter of the fifth kind. Personal contact between
the "occupants" of the craft initiated by an individual or group.
As spaceships of extraterrestrial origin, the UFOs have to cover
distances which are unimaginable for us. This can only be possible
through capabilities in the field of physics and technology that are
beyond our understanding and which still lie in the realm of magic for
us.
But UFOs are not only a challenge for astronomers, physicists and
engineers; they also confound psychologists, sociologists and
anthropologists. The reaction to the sighting of a UFO is, in the
opinion of psychologists, determined by the psychological constitution
of the observer. The sociologist, on the other hand, sees the reaction
to a sighting mainly from the social and cultural background of the
observer. For the anthropologist, there are parallels to myths and
legends from the past, often connected with religion. He wants to
understand the modus operandi of the extraterrestrials and investigate
the public's general reaction to their appearance. Thus, probably one
reason for the cautious approach of the alien visitors is that they
are here on account of scientific curiosity.
An open contact would disturb our society and its dynamics and
influence it to such an extent that the results of the aliens'
observations of it would be contaminated. Our anthropologists also try
to keep to a minimum their influence on a society they wish to
observe. Extraterrestrial intelligences would perhaps, therefore,
prefer to restrict their contacts to individual encounters so as to
camouflage their reconnaissance as far as possible. Perhaps they have
even deliberately staged the meaningless scenarios reported by the so-
called contactees, so that their reports do not find general
acceptance and they are mostly regarded as fools or psychopaths.
Another protective measure would be, apart from this suggested
disinformation, the induction of amnesia in the witnesses, as has been
often described in cases of alleged alien abductions.
Although the UFOs quite obviously represent one of the biggest
challenges for science, they are too often only laughed at, or simply
ignored. One reason for that is that the whole spectrum of the UFO
phenomenon is rarely presented in a serious manner and, when UFO
sighting cases are reported in the press, they are usually taken out
of their context.
Johannes von Butler
HVAC
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
news:852309ae-639e-4a96...@l24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> What is a UFO?--The definition!
Request denied.
--
Harlow Victor Allen Campbell
Moderator
alt.alien.research alt.alien.visitors sci.skeptic alt.conspiracy
Benj
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> What is a UFO?--The definition!
>
> For confirmed skeptics, UFO sightings are no problem. In their opinion
> these can only be the mistaken identification of weather balloons,
> helicopters, meteorites, rockets, satellites or planets, etc.
> Otherwise, in the skeptics' opinion, UFOs are actually hoaxes invented
> by fame-hungry swindlers to acquire prominence. On the other hand,
> there is a front of uncritical UFO fans who are frequently victims of
> their own wishful thinking, and see in everything a manifestation of
> ambassadors from a "cosmic brotherhood," who have come to the earth to
> save humanity from destruction.
Absolutely. Both the confirmed skeptics and the uncritical UFO fans
are two sides of the same unthinking "KOOK" coin. Neither are
interested in facts or truth or actual explanations. To either group
it is only a matter of whether you "believe". Hence to them the UFO
phenomena is a religion stripped of science. And they all work hard to
make sure that nobody else ever starts a scientific investigation.
> And then there are a few who deal with the phenomena in a sober and
> unprejudiced manner, and because of that are often thrown into the
> same pot with members of the superstitious "UFO cults" (by the self-
> appointed "popes" of authority). But there are numerous well-
> documented cases, confirmed by earnest witnesses, which indicate that,
> in fact, something is going on in the sky, which cannot be explained
> by conventional means, and behind which more and more recognized
> experts see the activity of extraterrestrial intelligence.
Yes there are a few. A few with open minds, and logic and reason who
yet are not afraid to confront possibilities well beyond that
currently accepted in the popular mind or even in establishment
science. These fall into two groups. There are the official
investigators who have access to all the factual data and evidence
(usually confiscated or deposed from actual witnesses) as well as to
the knowledge of what is fake data. They are usually government
employees or members of the intelligence community. The other are
earnest amateur investigators. They may in fact be professionals of
various types, but are under constant attack and ridicule by the
former group. Their task is made much more difficult since the
intelligence community throws out vast quantities of misinformation
designed to mislead a true investigator as well as personal attacks
designed to discredit them in the eyes of the public. It's a lot like
solving a murder. You can't expect the murderer to be telling you the
truth about what he/she did. Just the opposite. But that is what makes
a who-done-it fun, is it not?
So lets get on the same page.
1. The "U" in UFO stands for "unidentified". To say what they "are" is
pure speculation at this point.
2. UFOs are REAL. They are seen all the time. With a little effort
ANYONE can see them. Anyone who says they are imaginary is a liar.
3. "Explanations" that a pilot was chasing "Venus" are ludicrous and
insulting in the extreme.
4. "Mass hallucination" as far as anyone knows only exists in the
media and official UFO explanations. As far as I know it is not
recognized by psychiatry.
5. Real UFOs are NOT explained. (see 1. above) Note things like signs
of intelligent control (turns, flying in formation) rule out natural
phenomena.
6. Remember the "official" investigators. That means that any really
credible artifacts will be taken never to be seen again. (And of
course the same people will then start demanding for you to show them
the artifacts you used to have as "proof" for them to believe you! )
7. How STOOOPID do you have to be to either believe the likes of
Adamski and his "venusian" aliens OR the likes of HVAC and his
constant ridicule and disruptions? Are you really THAT ignorant that
you can't see through either of these? If you want to test your own
stooopidity, I strongly urge you to read the book "UFO's, JFK, and
Elvis" by Richard Belzer and see just where you stand on the
evolootionary scale.
Sir Gilligan Horry
Well, YouTube and other video hosting sites
are just amazing these days.
The old days were different in
1996 when I was posting around in the
Area 51 Research Center message board !
By the Powers of Friars Balsam !!!
P.S.
I hope America can get back on track
as a good America it was trying to be in the 1950's.
(But a futuristic better country and world
recognizing the really good folks
I have found in YouTube)
I know the couple of bad fronts
that are trying to rip the olde USA apart.
It's all in YouTube and in other areas.
And I'm not joking...
It's all in the hands of the owners of Area 51.
If they went down the wrong path,
or secretly got taken over by
shitty multi-dimensional aliens,
then .........
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!!!
QUOTE:
"Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise
of those centralising powers without them being neither suspected nor
accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very
subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material
plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient
and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large
number of your representatives are fighting this danger ! Be aware
that not all abductions are made against you."
And see this ....
The Mystery of Dr. Lachezar Filipov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbCnfEof20o
"involves UFO/ET disclosure by a major space scientist"
P.P.S.
Oh, and if anyone attacks my friends or my belongings again !!!
(Yes, had a sneeky attack recently with stuff smashed)
... We will put into place ideas
that we have been working on for years.
______
We are not alone in the Universe
and it's better if Disclosure about that fact
goes very public.
QUOTE:
"The Secrecy is a Danger".
"The Control is a Danger".
_____________________________
=============================
HVAC
"Benj" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
news:4ba9f279-9385-4433...@r10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
So lets get on the same page.
1. The "U" in UFO stands for "unidentified". To say what they "are" is
pure speculation at this point.
Just as the B in BJ stans for 'Blow'.
2. UFOs are REAL. They are seen all the time. With a little effort
ANYONE can see them. Anyone who says they are imaginary is a liar.
So, when you see a plane you can't identify, that's a ufo?
You're a fucking idiot.
No offense.
3. "Explanations" that a pilot was chasing "Venus" are ludicrous and
insulting in the extreme.
Yet they debunk 90% + of all ufo sightings.
4. "Mass hallucination" as far as anyone knows only exists in the
media and official UFO explanations. As far as I know it is not
recognized by psychiatry.
That's because you're a moron.
5. Real UFOs are NOT explained. (see 1. above) Note things like signs
of intelligent control (turns, flying in formation) rule out natural
phenomena.
So flocks of birds turning in formation is 'un-natural' ?
You're an idiot. (no offense)
6. Remember the "official" investigators. That means that any really
credible artifacts will be taken never to be seen again. (And of
course the same people will then start demanding for you to show them
the artifacts you used to have as "proof" for them to believe you! )
Yet, to date, exactly ZERO artifacts or ANY real evidence has come forth.
7. How STOOOPID do you have to be to either believe the likes of
Adamski and his "venusian" aliens OR the likes of HVAC and his
constant ridicule and disruptions?
It's somewhat of a reach, you snappahead, to call my
good-natured banter a 'disruption'.
Are you really THAT ignorant that
you can't see through either of these? If you want to test your own
stooopidity, I strongly urge you to read the book "UFO's, JFK, and
Elvis" by Richard Belzer and see just where you stand on the
evolootionary scale.
This is the same Richard Belzer the comedian?
And you want US to read what he says about ufos?
I think sucking so much cock has caused your brains
to implode.
No offense of course.
--
"Intelligent Design" Helping Stupid People Feel Smart Since 1987
Benj
[Snip a buncha amazing name-calling crap which instantly and
irrefutably proved all my assertions that HVAC is nothing but a
disruptive moron.]
> Are you really THAT ignorant that
> you can't see through either of these? If you want to test your own
> stooopidity, I strongly urge you to read the book "UFO's, JFK, and
> Elvis" by Richard Belzer and see just where you stand on the
> evolootionary scale.
> This is the same Richard Belzer the comedian?
> And you want US to read what he says about ufos?
Yes, as a matter of fact it is! Very funny book! But obviously that
will do you no good as you have never ventured beyond the pictures on
the cover of any book. And you don't have to read the book. We KNOW
where you stand on the evolootionary scale.
> I think sucking so much cock has caused your brains
> to implode.
>
> No offense of course.
The above "banter" being a salient example of what HVAC terms
"scientific debate"!
I rest my case.
Moron-shill.
HVAC
On Feb 7, 6:29 am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
[Snip a buncha amazing name-calling crap which instantly and
irrefutably proved all my assertions that HVAC is nothing but a
disruptive moron.]
> I think sucking so much cock has caused your brains
> to implode.
>
> No offense of course.
The above "banter" being a salient example of what HVAC terms
"scientific debate"!
I rest my case.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey! I said "no offense".
That means that everything I said was done
in a cheerful and delightful way and in no way
was it malicious, you cum guzzling sperm burper.
--
Faith is believing what you know ain't so" -Mark Twain
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
I agree. Debunkers have been so discredited, that they have turned
themselves into a bunch of degenerates who live a sewers and caves.
Of course I did predict this would happen when the UFO cover-up
officially ended, which it has.
The few remaining debunkers will soon be picked up by the garbage
disposal unit and cut into little pieces for fertilizer. At least
they can finally contribute something positive to society.
Sir Å
HVAC
The few remaining debunkers will soon be picked up by the garbage
disposal unit and cut into little pieces for fertilizer. At least
they can finally contribute something positive to society.
Sir �
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Your drug-addled request is denied.
Benj
> "Benj" <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
> The above "banter" being a salient example of what HVAC terms
> "scientific debate"!
> I rest my case.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Hey! I said "no offense".
>
> That means that everything I said was done
> in a cheerful and delightful way and in no way
> was it malicious, you cum guzzling sperm burper.
Hey asshole surfer, did I say I was offended?
I just pointed out you were worthless!
Just the facts, ma'am.
HVAC
Apology accepted.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Don't waste one more second talking to a debunker. These truth-
terrorists are of no use to civilized people. It would be best if
their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of even
better yet, the lion cage.
Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
EARTH. Good, decent, upright folks will not allow that to happen.
Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over the
debunkers! That will be a glorious day FOR ALL MANKIND!! IT SHALL BE
DONE!!
Sir Å
Benj
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> Don't waste one more second talking to a debunker. These truth-
> terrorists are of no use to civilized people. It would be best if
> their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of even
> better yet, the lion cage.
Good advice, but hey even a trip to the zoo can be educational!
> Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
> EARTH. Good, decent, upright folks will not allow that to happen.
> Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over the
> debunkers! That will be a glorious day FOR ALL MANKIND!! IT SHALL BE
> DONE!!
Oh sure. Someone is going to "win" WWIII! You are as dumb as ACDC!
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:95245ab1-6e15-43df...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 8, 12:30�pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>> On Feb 8, 8:23�am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Benj" <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
>> > The above "banter" being a salient example of what HVAC terms
>> > "scientific debate"!
>> > I rest my case.
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> > Hey! �I said "no offense".
>>
>> > That means that everything I said was done
>> > in a cheerful and delightful way and in no way
>> > was it malicious, you cum guzzling sperm burper.
>>
>> Hey asshole surfer, did I say I was offended?
>> I just pointed out you were worthless!
>> Just the facts, ma'am.
>
> Don't waste one more second talking to
the Artie/Gary sockpuppet.
--
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Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
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"My agendas are pure and deserve whatever backing I can sleaze for
them." - Rebecca "Machiaveli" Ore on her trolling ways.
HVAC
Don't waste one more second talking to a debunker. These truth-
terrorists are of no use to civilized people. It would be best if
their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of even
better yet, the lion cage.
Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
EARTH. Good, decent, upright folks will not allow that to happen.
Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over the
debunkers! That will be a glorious day FOR ALL MANKIND!! IT SHALL BE
DONE!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Request denied.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:95245ab1-6e15-43df...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> Don't waste one more second talking to a debunker. These truth-
> terrorists are of no use to civilized people. It would be best if
> their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of even
> better yet, the lion cage.
>
> Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
> EARTH. Good, decent, upright folks will not allow that to happen.
> Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over the
> debunkers! That will be a glorious day FOR ALL MANKIND!! IT SHALL BE
> DONE!!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Request denied.
I agree. Debunkers have been so discredited, that they have turned
themselves into a bunch of degenerates who live a sewers and caves.
Of course I did predict this would happen when the UFO cover-up
officially ended, which it has.
The few remaining debunkers will soon be picked up by the garbage
disposal unit and cut into little pieces for fertilizer. At least
they can finally contribute something positive to society.
Sir Å
HVAC
The few remaining debunkers will soon be picked up by the garbage
disposal unit and cut into little pieces for fertilizer. At least
they can finally contribute something positive to society.
Sir �
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Request denied.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:42a11059-0b2d-4df3...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 9, 2:37�pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
>> messa
> genews:95245ab1-6e15-43df...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com
> ...
>>
>> Don't waste one more second talking to a debunker. �These truth-
>> terrorists are of no use to civilized people. �It would be best if
>> their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of even
>> better yet, the lion cage.
>>
>> Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
>> EARTH. �Good, decent, upright folks will not allow that to happen.
>> Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over the
>> debunkers! �That will be a glorious day FOR ALL MANKIND!! �IT SHALL B
> E
>> DONE!!
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Request denied.
>
> I agree.
Great! Then fuck off, kook.
--
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Yes, I am wise, and its wisdom born from my superior brain!" - Edmond
"What Ego Problem?" Wollmann further deludes himself.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:42a11059-0b2d-4df3...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> >> messa
> > genews:95245ab1-6e15-43df...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com
> > ...
>
> >> Don't waste one more second talking to a debunker. These truth-
> >> terrorists are of no use to civilized people. It would be best if
> >> their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of even
> >> better yet, the lion cage.
>
> >> Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
> >> EARTH. Good, decent, upright folks will not allow that to happen.
> >> Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over the
> >> debunkers! That will be a glorious day FOR ALL MANKIND!! IT SHALL B
> > E
> >> DONE!!
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> >> Request denied.
>
> > I agree.
>
Debunkers have been so discredited, that they have turned
themselves into a bunch of degenerates who live a sewers and caves.
Of course I did predict this would happen when the UFO cover-up
officially ended, which it has.
The few remaining debunkers will soon be picked up by the garbage
disposal unit and cut into little pieces for fertilizer. At least
they can finally contribute something positive to society.
Truthfully, I will be the first to celebrate the day, which should
come VERY soon,
that the last debunker is dispatched. They have been no use to
anybody for
a very long time. They are a cancer to our civilized society, and
useful idiots
like Sockpupptet, Casanobrain, Hagar and "H"eroin, are truly
worthless humans, if they are human at all.
Sir Å
Sir Å
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:63ea9bf8-ed51-465a...@a16g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 12, 5:14锟絧m, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:4
> 2a11059-0b2d-4df3...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 9, 2:37锟絧m, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> in messa
>> > genews:95245ab1-6e15-43df...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.
>> > com ...
>>
>> >> Don't waste one more second talking to a debunker. 锟絋hese truth-
>> >> terrorists are of no use to civilized people. 锟絀t would be best if
>> >> their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of
>> >> even better yet, the lion cage.
>>
>> >> Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
>> >> EARTH. 锟紾ood, decent, upright folks will not allow that to happen.
>> >> Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over
>> >> the debunkers! 锟絋hat will be a glorious day FOR ALL MANKIND!! 锟絀T
>> >> SHAL
> L B
>> > E
>> >> DONE!!
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> >> Request denied.
>>
>> > I agree.
>>
>> Great! Then ....
>
> Debunkers have
kicked the shit out of the Artie/Gary sockpuppet.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
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"It's so sad that the mentally ill were turned out by Reagan, and end
up on usenet harassing people as a form of therapy." - Edmo outs himself.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:63ea9bf8-ed51-465a...@a16g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 5:14 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:4
>
> >> > On Feb 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> >> in messa
> >> > genews:95245ab1-6e15-43df...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.
> >> > com ...
>
> >> >> terrorists are of no use to civilized people. It would be best if
> >> >> their kind were rounded up and thrown into the monkey cage, of
> >> >> even better yet, the lion cage.
>
> >> >> Debunkers end-game is the destruction of ALL LIFE on THIS ISLAND
> >> >> Pretty soon World War 3 will start and we will be victorious over
> >> >> SHAL
> > L B
> >> > E
> >> >> DONE!!
> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> >> >> Request denied.
>
> >> > I agree.
>
> >> Great! Then ....
>
> > Debunkers have
>
> kicked the shit out of the Artie/Gary sockpuppet.
You and your kind are going to have a ton of fun in the FEMA camps
LOOK: Surveillance Drones To Zap Debunkers Into Submission
And people say things can't get any better, HOGWASH!!
Sir Å
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:8b88e412-e45f-4470...@b7g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 13, 6:21�am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:6
> 3ea9bf8-ed51-465a...@a16g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 12, 5:14�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> innews:4
>> > 2a11059-0b2d-4df3-adcf-36c4372db...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 9, 2:37�pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>
>> >> >> wrote in messa
>> >> > genews:95245ab1-6e15-43df...@k5g2000pra.googlegrou
>> >> > ps. com ...
DENIED.
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obsess over the chuckle for 7 years." - Ed the numerically-challenged.
HVAC
>You and your kind are going to have a ton of fun in the FEMA camps
>LOOK: Surveillance Drones To Zap Debunkers Into Submission
Dear Two-Dogs-Fucking,
Request denied.
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BradGuth
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:8b88e412-e45f-4470...@b7g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>
> >You and your kind are going to have a ton of fun in the FEMA camps
> >LOOK: Surveillance Drones To Zap Debunkers Into Submission
>
> Dear Two-Dogs-Fucking,
>
> Request denied.
>
> --
> Harlow Victor Allen Campbell
> Moderator
> alt.alien.research alt.alien.visitors sci.skeptic alt.conspiracy
> alt.astronomy
Your mainstream brain flatulence is noted.
btw, those previous human giants had turds bigger than you. Have you
checked recently to see if you're not one of those turds.
~ BG
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Try and ignore Whore-low. My his own admission, he is an "8-year old
bed-wetter who is home-bound." Truthfully, that description
accurately describes your average Usenet debunker: Hagar, "H" and
Casanobrain.
What is a UFO?--The definition!
For confirmed skeptics, UFO sightings are no problem. In their opinion
these can only be the mistaken identification of weather balloons,
helicopters, meteorites, rockets, satellites or planets, etc.
Otherwise, in the skeptics' opinion, UFOs are actually hoaxes invented
by fame-hungry swindlers to acquire prominence. On the other hand,
there is a front of uncritical UFO fans who are frequently victims of
their own wishful thinking, and see in everything a manifestation of
ambassadors from a "cosmic brotherhood," who have come to the earth to
save humanity from destruction.
And then there are a few who deal with the phenomena in a sober and
unprejudiced manner, and because of that are often thrown into the
same pot with members of the superstitious "UFO cults" (by the self-
appointed "popes" of authority). But there are numerous well-
documented cases, confirmed by earnest witnesses, which indicate that,
in fact, something is going on in the sky, which cannot be explained
by conventional means, and behind which more and more recognized
experts see the activity of extraterrestrial intelligence.
Experts define "UFO" as "unidentified flying object" whose appearance,
BradGuth
Have you ever taken a serious and open-minded look-see at the surface
of Venus?
With interplanetary and obviously of interstellar capability is what
makes that geothermally made toasty surface of Venus a piece of cake,
not that such ETs have any cravings for cake.
~ BG
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:078e9cfe-382a-43a1...@u5g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 14, 10:26�am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 14, 2:36�am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
>> > mes
> sagenews:8b88e412-e45f-4470...@b7g2000pro.googlegroups.c
> om...
>>
>> > >You and your kind are going to have a ton of fun in the FEMA camps
>> > >LOOK: Surveillance Drones To Zap Debunkers Into Submission
>>
>> > Dear Two-Dogs-Fucking,
>>
>> > Request denied.
>>
>> > --
>> > Harlow Victor Allen Campbell
>> > Moderator
>> > alt.alien.research �alt.alien.visitors �sci.skeptic �alt.conspira
> cy
>> > alt.astronomy
>>
>> Your mainstream brain flatulence is noted.
>>
>> btw, �those previous human giants had turds bigger than you. �Have yo
> u
>> checked recently to see if you're not one of those turds.
>>
>> �~ BG
>
> Try and ignore
the Artie/Gary sockpuppet.
--
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Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Then I will send complaints, update pages, and file lawsuits until the
abuse ceases or until you start getting balls and posting under your
real identity, which ever miracle comes first--very simple people--take
your
pick." - Ed Wollmann upbraids his own sockpuppets.
Hagar
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11c47aff-98fc-419c...@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 14, 11:06 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 10:26 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
< snip insane drivel by the Loons >
> Johannes von Butler
Have you ever taken a serious and open-minded look-see at the surface
of Venus?
With interplanetary and obviously of interstellar capability is what
makes that geothermally made toasty surface of Venus a piece of cake,
not that such ETs have any cravings for cake.
***********************************
I think you need a good butt-rodgering by LipFlapper to get over
your unnatural fascination with perceived geometric shapes on the
ever so hot surface of Venus ... do you see what I see ... ding-dong
ding-dong ...
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
There you go again with blowing those kosher approved brain-farts of
obfuscation and denial. You know that didn't work for Hitler, so why
bother to push your luck?
~ BG
Hagar
*******************************
Say, GuthBall ... wanna pull my finger ... bwahahahahahahahahhhhhh
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Hagar by his own admission is a "simplistic, spastic and sickening
shithole of a person who is not worthy of a dogs turd." This time I
have to agree with this debunker, but this time ONLY!!
Sir Å
Brad Guth
> On Feb 16, 7:28 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Do you mean PORPIISHIT, LIAR B?
>
> > Darla's NEVER BEEN OFF THE EARTH, FOOL!
>
> > Saul Levy
>
> > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:37:30 -0800 (PST), bert
>
> > <herbertglazie...@msn.com> wrote:
> > >On Feb 15, 7:05 am, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> We really DON'T CARE, FLUFFY!
>
> > >> SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!
>
> > >> Saul Levy
>
> > >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:23:53 -0800 (PST), "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
>
> > >> Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > >> >Hagar by his own admission is a "simplistic, spastic and sickening
> > >> >shithole of a person who is not worthy of a dogs turd." This time I
> > >> >have to agree with this debunker, but this time ONLY!!
>
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >What if aliens have taken over the ISS? Would NASA let us know? By
> > >this time next year it would make no difference who is going round and
> > >round 220 miles up. TreBert- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Cacus Saul Your head has never been out of the desert sand. Only your
> ass is in the wind and sun. Your thoughts are just big stinky farts.
> You have no life,and curse the lives of others. My advice Get a
> life TreBert
ZNRs like rabbi Saul Levy that speaks on behalf of all Jews, isn't
required to have a life of his own.
~ BG
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
This IS a great post!!!! Even if it was written by Yours Truly!!
[SMF]
> This IS a great post!!!! Even if it was written by Yours Truly!!
1) Idiot.
2) Fucking idiot.
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
3) Mars.
4) Solar System.
5) MIBs.
6) Galactic Fooleration.
7) Billions of Stars.
8) Bananas.
9) Yes.
dmaster
> On Feb 5, 7:30 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."...
> So lets get on the same page.
Great. I always like to be on the same page.
>
> 1. The "U" in UFO stands for "unidentified". To say what they "are" is
> pure speculation at this point.
Excellent. So to say that they are interstellar visitors is as much
pure speculation as to say that they are hot air balloons. I'm glad
we agree on that.
>
> 2. UFOs are REAL. They are seen all the time. With a little effort
> ANYONE can see them. Anyone who says they are imaginary is a liar.
I don't think anyone says that UFOs as per your agreed upon definition
above are imaginary. There are certainly many who think that
interstellar visitors are imaginary, but you would have to agree with
that, based on your apt "pure speculation" comment.
>
> 3. "Explanations" that a pilot was chasing "Venus" are ludicrous and
> insulting in the extreme.
Given that identification is "pure speculation", such explanations are
no less or more ludicrous than any others. I'm sure you'll agree that
we do know that Venus *does* appear visibly in the sky at least. I'm
sure you are also aware that human perception is remarkably poor at
determining the distance, size, or motion of objects when no frame of
reference exists. Go ask 20 aquaintances what the size of the Moon on
the horizon is and what the size of the Moon high in the night sky
is. A pea? A golf ball? A tennis ball? A softball? A basketball?
A beach ball? Smaller than a pea? Larger than a beach ball? Note
how many get the answer correct based on their human perceptions.
(Check it yourself: about the size of a pencil eraser held at arms
length in both cases.) Also, I'm sure you are aware that our human
perceptions cannot tell us how big the Moon is nor how far away it
is. There is no way we can see the difference between a house sized
Moon a mile up or a planetoid sized moon 100,000 miles away. Based on
that, I'm not sure I'd go calling "chasing Venus" ludicrous at all.
>
> 4. "Mass hallucination" as far as anyone knows only exists in the
> media and official UFO explanations. As far as I know it is not
> recognized by psychiatry.
I don't know anything about "Mass hallucination", but I'm aware of the
power of suggestion and how it can affect our perceptions.
>
> 5. Real UFOs are NOT explained. (see 1. above) Note things like signs
> of intelligent control (turns, flying in formation) rule out natural
> phenomena.
Fish swim in formations in the ocean. Flocks of birds fly in
formation all the time. You certainly cannot rule out "signs of
intelligent control (turns, flying in formation)" as natural
phenomena, if you think about it at all.
>
> 6. Remember the "official" investigators. That means that any really
> credible artifacts will be taken never to be seen again. (And of
> course the same people will then start demanding for you to show them
> the artifacts you used to have as "proof" for them to believe you! )
Here you are making a lot of assumptions. The first is that
"official" investigators that arrive at *all* occurances and
confiscate *all* evidence even exist. But the bigger problem is that
you use this as an arguement for why there is no proof for a
supposition that you yourself described in 1. as "pure speculation".
Do you see? This arguement assumes that (some) UFOs are
extraterrestrial visitors (the pure speculation) without any evidence,
and then concocts a theory to explain the lack of evidence. Doesn't
if make a whole lot more sense to accept the lack of "proof" as
evidence *against* a theory that is "pure speculation", rather
creating yet another theory unproven theory?
>
> 7. How STOOOPID do you have to be to either believe the likes of
> Adamski and his "venusian" aliens OR the likes of HVAC and his
> constant ridicule and disruptions? Are you really THAT ignorant that
> you can't see through either of these? If you want to test your own
> stooopidity, I strongly urge you to read the book "UFO's, JFK, and
> Elvis" by Richard Belzer and see just where you stand on the
> evolootionary scale.
I'm not sure I'd use "stupid" in my arguement, unless I noted the
significant difference between the like of Adamski and the like of
HVAC. Adamski and his ilk *are* asking you to believe in something
that you have rightfully noted is "pure speculation", with little
credible evidence, while profiting from the speculation. HVAC and his
ilk ridicule you for accepting "pure speculation" without credible
evidence. He doesn't appear to ask you to believe anything. I'll
admit that he is suggesting that you would be foolish to accept "pure
speculation" without credible evidence, but then I suppose, would most
people. I don't see he profits from it in any way (other than by
personal enjoyment). So, what am I too ignorant to see through? Are
you suggesting that there are really people paid to do nothing more
than hang out in this tiny, inconsequential corner of the internet and
to ridicule what are mostly "Adamski believer types"? Once again,
pure speculation, and apparently pretty poor speculation as well. Do
you really think any of us who happen to read or write here are of any
concern to any agency (imagined or real)?
...
Dan (Woj...)
Benj
> On Feb 6, 3:00 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
<snip a buncha crap I wrote with wordy "answers" of little merit>
So, what am I too ignorant to see through? Are
> you suggesting that there are really people paid to do nothing more
> than hang out in this tiny, inconsequential corner of the internet and
> to ridicule what are mostly "Adamski believer types"? Once again,
> pure speculation, and apparently pretty poor speculation as well. Do
> you really think any of us who happen to read or write here are of any
> concern to any agency (imagined or real)?
You are obviously too ignorant to see through the cover that those of
us reading and writing here ARE of concern to a number of agencies
both real and hidden.
Pure speculation: CIA exists. ONI exists. Area 51 exists. CFR, TC and
other groups exist. FBI exists. Government agencies concerned with
'"security" exist. Classified documents and reports exist. Government
secrets exist. That you actual exist.
Not speculation: UFOs exist.
dmaster
> On Mar 3, 2:15 pm, dmaster <dan....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 6, 3:00 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>
> <snip a buncha crap I wrote with wordy "answers" of little merit>
Does that refer to my answers? In what way are my words of any less
merit than yours?
>
> So, what am I too ignorant to see through? Are
>
> > you suggesting that there are really people paid to do nothing more
> > than hang out in this tiny, inconsequential corner of the internet and
> > to ridicule what are mostly "Adamski believer types"? Once again,
> > pure speculation, and apparently pretty poor speculation as well. Do
> > you really think any of us who happen to read or write here are of any
> > concern to any agency (imagined or real)?
>
> You are obviously too ignorant to see through the cover that those of
> us reading and writing here ARE of concern to a number of agencies
> both real and hidden.
And just as validly (or perhaps much more so), I could suggest that
*you* are too ignorant to see through a smoke screen of imagination,
paranoia, and delusions.
>
> Pure speculation: CIA exists. ONI exists. Area 51 exists. CFR, TC and
> other groups exist. FBI exists. Government agencies concerned with
> '"security" exist. Classified documents and reports exist. Government
> secrets exist. That you actual exist.
No. Some of these are facts. The CIA exists. The FBI exists.
Government agencies concerned with "security" exist. Classified
documents and reports exist. Government secrets exist. And I exist.
>
> Not speculation: UFOs exist.
As per your first point, *Unidentified* Flying Objects exist. Pretty
much everything after that is pure speculation. I'm always interested
in credible stories of sightings or evidence. I would be quite
excited to find real proof that we have had contact with alien
visitors. On the other hand, I'm not interested in drivel about
"channeling the Galactic Brotherhood", or "I'm being visited daily by
aliens who want to impregnate me" or any other patently false
nonsense. I was hoping your "same page" rhetoric meant that you might
actually want to intelligently explore the possiblities, but I seem to
be mistaken. Instead, it appears that "same page" to you means
swallowing whatever woohoo nonsense any "true believer" feeds you.
*blech*
Dan (Woj...)
HVAC
news:974e43f5-ac40-4cba...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
As per your first point, *Unidentified* Flying Objects exist. Pretty
much everything after that is pure speculation. I'm always interested
in credible stories of sightings or evidence. I would be quite
excited to find real proof that we have had contact with alien
visitors. On the other hand, I'm not interested in drivel about
"channeling the Galactic Brotherhood", or "I'm being visited daily by
aliens who want to impregnate me" or any other patently false
nonsense. I was hoping your "same page" rhetoric meant that you might
actually want to intelligently explore the possiblities, but I seem to
be mistaken. Instead, it appears that "same page" to you means
swallowing whatever woohoo nonsense any "true believer" feeds you.
*blech*
Oh, it's worse than that... Far worse.
BJ believes that if you question his bullshit
kook ideas about kooky shit, then you MUST
be a government agent here to disrupt all the
ongoing investigations they have going on.
The fact is, no aliens are or ever have visited
the Earth. Anyone that thinks they did is gay.
--
Faith is believing what you know ain't so" -Mark Twain
dmaster
> "dmaster" <dan....@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:974e43f5-ac40-4cba...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> As per your first point, *Unidentified* Flying Objects exist. Pretty
> much everything after that is pure speculation. I'm always interested
> in credible stories of sightings or evidence. I would be quite
> excited to find real proof that we have had contact with alien
> visitors. On the other hand, I'm not interested in drivel about
> "channeling the Galactic Brotherhood", or "I'm being visited daily by
> aliens who want to impregnate me" or any other patently false
> nonsense. I was hoping your "same page" rhetoric meant that you might
> actually want to intelligently explore the possiblities, but I seem to
> be mistaken. Instead, it appears that "same page" to you means
> swallowing whatever woohoo nonsense any "true believer" feeds you.
> *blech*
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Oh, it's worse than that... Far worse.
>
> BJ believes that if you question his bullshit
> kook ideas about kooky shit, then you MUST
> be a government agent here to disrupt all the
> ongoing investigations they have going on.
Great. Another one of *those*. You'd think once in a great while,
one of them would realize just how ridiculous the "anyone who
disagrees with MUST be a government disinformation agent" is.
Dan (Woj...)
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "dmaster" <dan....@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:974e43f5-ac40-4cba...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> As per your first point, *Unidentified* Flying Objects exist. Pretty
> much everything after that is pure speculation. I'm always interested
> in credible stories of sightings or evidence. I would be quite
> excited to find real proof that we have had contact with alien
> visitors.
Been there, done that. Next!!
What is a UFO?--The definition!
For confirmed skeptics, UFO sightings are no problem. In their opinion
Cujo DeSockpuppet
in
news:4a959de3-1e53-41ca...@k24g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
> On Mar 8, 10:57 am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "dmaster" <dan....@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:974e43f5-ac40-4cba...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com
>> ... As per your first point, *Unidentified* Flying Objects exist.
>> Pretty much everything after that is pure speculation. I'm always
>> interested in credible stories of sightings or evidence. I would be
>> quite excited to find real proof that we have had contact with alien
>> visitors.
>
> Been there
You sure have!
Let's return to your familiar territory:
DENIED.
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about 6 years old or so." - Edmo shocks the scientific world with another
fascinating delusion from his childhood.
HVAC
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <garyma...@gmail.com> wrote in
message
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> Been there, done that.
Request to go there and do that is denied.
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