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Sir Gilligan Horry

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Dec 20, 2009, 4:41:08 AM12/20/09
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Here I am posting to Usenet Newsgroups again.

In the most important area on the internet.

Umm,. in the craziest area on the internet.

It just looks like I am the Ruler of Usenet Newsgroups
because other people are not really posting here much.

And why would I want to be
Ruler of Usenet Newsgroups
when I am Ruler of "Free UFO Videos" !!!

Oh, and I am Ruler of "Aliens UFOs Free Videos"

And "Project MotherShip"

And "EBE UFOS PROOF AND EVIDENCE"

Well, probably Ruler of NGC1257 too !!!

http://www.skyfactory.org/deepskycatalogue/NGC1257.html


_________________________

Haha :) LOL Merry Christmas !!!


=========================


P.S.
Newsgroups is better than 'ATS'.
(I won't post their website)
Owned stinky website noted!
All they did was ban me,
(three times)
bunch of chicken craps!

You aint seen nothing yet !!!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Aliens_UFOs_Free_Videos/summary

Sir Gilligan Horry

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:18:29 AM12/20/09
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Do I sound a bit sno0oty ?

Haha !

I'm supposed to be an Angel !

Well, for the Queen
I would be an Angel.

And for Rolf Harris
I would be an Angel.

But not for David Icke
and not for zombies,
and not for ATS moderators.

I Love The Queen
I Love Rolf Harris
I Love HVAC
I Love UFOs
I Love Freezing Weather
I Love Snow
I Love The Moon
I Love Documentaries


"Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - sang by Rolf Harris"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D-LmRNdQiQ


_____________________

http://aliens.ufos.videos.googlepages.com/alien-ufo-postcards.html

=====================

TROY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buPRU02T0fU


=====================


Sir Gilligan Horry

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:27:11 AM12/20/09
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"That was obviously a weather balloon filled with swamp gas. I think
the real story is why the media doesn't pay more attention to the fact
that millions of people all around the world who have never met are
telling the same "lies" about seeing UFO's and being abducted. Either
there are aliens or there aren't. Regardless of the conclusion you
come to, the fact that so many people claim to have had this
experience and it is for some reason being publicly ignored by
governments and scientists, is the biggest story that never broke.
They wont even give you a "we aren't sure but we are working on it"
will they? but then who wants to have the neighbors calling them crazy
because they aren't afraid to point out things that make them
uncomfortable (and they most certainly will call you crazy). or worse
yet, they may accuse you of being unpatriotic for questioning the
latest speech. Its part of the program. Don't blame them. Once you
lose your blissful ignorance you can't get it back. Just enjoy the
ride. And try to keep your intent virtuous. - Tim Stark."

And ...

"There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the
experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organised
structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is
based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of
this hierarchy that we turn to you."

And ...

"The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping
mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool
and human emotional energy."

"The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause
of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this
disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to
representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand
on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision."


The third way was ...
The fourth way !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lofgud4wLLo


LOL :) Haha!

__________

I Love Intelligence


I Love HVAC
I Love UFOs
I Love Freezing Weather
I Love Snow
I Love The Moon
I Love Documentaries


_____________________

http://aliens.ufos.videos.googlepages.com/alien-ufo-postcards.html

=====================

TROY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buPRU02T0fU


=====================

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:05:39 AM12/20/09
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Quit screwing around, these groups are here for 2 reasons. #1 -
Printing the FACTS in regards to ETs and UFOs and #2) the elimination
of the truth-terror threat known as debunkers and their ilk: their
supporters, sympathizers, and enablers.

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:35:59 AM12/20/09
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
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> Quit screwing around, these groups are here for 2 reasons. #1 -
> Printing the FACTS in regards to ETs and UFOs and #2) the elimination
> of the truth-terror threat known as debunkers and their ilk: their
> supporters, sympathizers, and enablers.

The groups are here to make fun of the Artie/Gary sockpuppet and document
the many lies and failures of the saucerheads. HTH!

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Have you people gone for counseling for your addiction to both
stupidity and the newsgroups?" - Ed vaporizes another Irony Meter.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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Dec 20, 2009, 10:18:53 AM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 5:35 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:0cb87ad5-c3cb-4c74...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Quit screwing around, these groups are here for 2 reasons.  #1 -
> > Printing the FACTS in regards to ETs and UFOs and #2) the elimination
> > of the truth-terror threat known as debunkers and their ilk: their
> > supporters, sympathizers, and enablers.
>
> The groups are here to make fun of the Artie/Gary sockpuppet and document
> the many lies and failures of the saucerheads. HTH!

WRONG! If you want your own group, start one. I would suggest
alt.debunker as a possible group. You are infiltrating and causing
unnecessary disruption on this group, which is against multiple
jurisdictions and codes. These groups are for honest researchers, not
some washed-up flunkies, useful idiots or truth-terrorsts. There will
be no more warnings if you leave right now.
And take the rest of your cult with you.

Sir ArtiØ

Nightcrawler

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Dec 20, 2009, 10:44:07 AM12/20/09
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On 12/20/2009 9:18 AM, Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:

> WRONG! If you want your own group, start one. I would suggest
> alt.debunker as a possible group. You are infiltrating and causing
> unnecessary disruption on this group, which is against multiple
> jurisdictions and codes. These groups are for honest researchers, not
> some washed-up flunkies, useful idiots or truth-terrorsts. There will
> be no more warnings if you leave right now.
> And take the rest of your cult with you.
>

> Sir Arti�


http://www.confidentialresource.com/Images/TinFoilHatAreaSMALL.jpg

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Dec 20, 2009, 11:18:00 AM12/20/09
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
news:63c1ba2c-3666-4b4d...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 20, 5:35�am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:0
> cb87ad5-c3cb-4c74...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Quit screwing around, these groups are here for 2 reasons. �#1 -
>> > Printing the FACTS in regards to ETs and UFOs and #2) the
>> > elimination of the truth-terror threat known as debunkers and their
>> > ilk: their supporters, sympathizers, and enablers.
>>
>> The groups are here to make fun of the Artie/Gary sockpuppet and
>> document the many lies and failures of the saucerheads. HTH!
>
> WRONG! If you want your own group, start one.

Why? I already own this one.

> I would suggest alt.debunker as a possible group.

I would suggest you stop your pathetic sockpuppet act, Artie/Gary.

> You are infiltrating and causing
> unnecessary disruption on this group, which is against multiple
> jurisdictions and codes.

Prove it.

> These groups are for honest researchers, not
> some washed-up flunkies, useful idiots or truth-terrorsts. There will
> be no more warnings if you leave right now.
> And take the rest of your cult with you.

Request DENIED, kook.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I am the same intelligent, articulate, amiable, and humble
person anywhere I go:-))" - Ed, proving he's always a dickhead.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:40:49 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 20, 8:18 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:63c1ba2c-3666-4b4d...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Dec 20, 5:35 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:0
> > cb87ad5-c3cb-4c74-8a5c-a42211a5a...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

>
> >> > Quit screwing around, these groups are here for 2 reasons.  #1 -
> >> > Printing the FACTS in regards to ETs and UFOs and #2) the
> >> > elimination of the truth-terror threat known as debunkers and their
> >> > ilk: their supporters, sympathizers, and enablers.
>
> >> The groups are here to make fun of the Artie/Gary sockpuppet and
> >> document the many lies and failures of the saucerheads. HTH!
>
> > WRONG!  If you want your own group, start one.
>
> Why? I already own this one.
>
> > I would suggest alt.debunker as a possible group.
>
> I would suggest you stop your pathetic sockpuppet act, Artie/Gary.
>
> > You are infiltrating and causing
> > unnecessary disruption on this group, which is against multiple
> > jurisdictions and codes.
>
> Prove it.
>
> > These groups are for honest researchers, not
> > some washed-up flunkies, useful idiots or truth-terrorsts.  There will
> > be no more warnings if you leave right now.
> > And take the rest of your cult with you.
>
> Request DENIED, kook.

It was NOT a request, it was a direct order from the General himself.
I think you understand now why you MUST comply!!

Sir ArtiØ

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:37:32 PM12/21/09
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
news:5da212bb-534a-416c...@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 20, 8:18�am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:6
> 3c1ba2c-3666-4b4d...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Dec 20, 5:35�am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> innews:0
>> > cb87ad5-c3cb-4c74-8a5c-a42211a5a...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > Quit screwing around, these groups are here for 2 reasons. �#1 -
>> >> > Printing the FACTS in regards to ETs and UFOs and #2) the
>> >> > elimination of the truth-terror threat known as debunkers and
>> >> > their ilk: their supporters, sympathizers, and enablers.
>>
>> >> The groups are here to make fun of the Artie/Gary sockpuppet and
>> >> document the many lies and failures of the saucerheads. HTH!
>>
>> > WRONG! �If you want your own group, start one.
>>
>> Why? I already own this one.
>>
>> > I would suggest alt.debunker as a possible group.
>>
>> I would suggest you stop your pathetic sockpuppet act, Artie/Gary.
>>
>> > You are infiltrating and causing
>> > unnecessary disruption on this group, which is against multiple
>> > jurisdictions and codes.
>>
>> Prove it.

Lack of proof noted.

>> > These groups are for honest researchers, not
>> > some washed-up flunkies, useful idiots or truth-terrorsts. �There
>> > will
>> > be no more warnings if you leave right now.
>> > And take the rest of your cult with you.
>>
>> Request DENIED, kook.
>
> It was NOT a request, it was a direct order from the General himself.
> I think you understand now why you MUST comply!!

Methinks the "General" is another Artie/Gary sockpuppet.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"And again, anyone who believes they have THE answers, is suffering
from delusions of granduer, a liar, a fool, and lacking in mature
perspectives." - Edmo in self-diagnosis mode.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 21, 2:37 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:5da212bb-534a-416c...@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 8:18 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:6
> > 3c1ba2c-3666-4b4d-9131-c3e102354...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

Two mistakes, first off debunkers do NOT think, secondly, I assure you
that the General is real, as is the Octagon®, the Pentagon WITHIN the
Pentagon. There is even something withIN the Octagon, but I do not
have access to the information. But whatever it is, I sure do NOT
want to mess with it, or even find out. Now leave here as soon as
possible. That is all!!

sir artiØ

BradGuth

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:41:33 AM12/22/09
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On Dec 20, 5:05 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."

You must be worth all the official trouble, as these brown-nosed
clowns of the kosher mainstream status quo have no intentions of
leaving any truth exposed for the general public to review.

~ BG

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
news:2e7ac1c5-62c4-4e4b...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

> Two mistakes [slap!]

You have a twin?

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"It's obvious to anyone with a bit of insight that you need to get
laid, get a hobby, get off usenet for a bit, and have some real
interaction with humanoids. - Edmo screams at his mirror again.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:44:34 AM12/24/09
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On Dec 23, 2:18 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:2e7ac1c5-62c4-4e4b...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Two mistakes [slap!]
>
> You have a twin?

You are restricted to one post a week. Since you've posted twice
today, you will have to wait 2 more weeks.

Sir ArtiØ

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:39:10 AM12/24/09
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
news:8524ae01-f1c6-4c0f...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

No. Tough shit.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I have violated NO ISPs AUP."- Ed the Liar.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 24, 6:39 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:8524ae01-f1c6-4c0f...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Dec 23, 2:18 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:2
> > e7ac1c5-62c4-4e4b-a6bc-cf8dd87c2...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

>
> >> > Two mistakes [slap!]
>
> >> You have a twin?
>
> > You are restricted to one post a week.  Since you've posted twice
> > today, you will have to wait 2 more weeks.
>
> No. Tough shit.

I did NOT ask you what you had for lunch, I merely informed you of
the new regulations. This applies to ALL debunkers and their cult,
plus suspected debunkers and debunker sympathizers, supporters and
enablers. There are limited to one post a year. Even that is very
very generous!!

Sir ArtiØ

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Dec 26, 2009, 8:38:15 AM12/26/09
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
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Gee, I just posted three responses today. I bet nothing happens!

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 25, 1:27 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."

The debunkers are suicidal around the holidays, but they are too
chickenshit to follow through!!

BENTWATERS SOLDIER SAW INSIDE SUPER-SECRET VAULT
Base Was Site of Famous UFO Events in 1980

The military base known as RAF Bentwaters in England is associated
with one of the most impressive yet controversial UFO cases of all
time. Almost no one disputes that something strange occurred near the
base during late December of 1980, but what it was remains shrouded in
mystery. Odd moving lights were reported in the sky and in the
Rendlesham Forest that separates Bentwaters from its nearby sister
base (now closed) called RAF Woodbridge. Soldiers were dispatched into
the woods, led by Lt. Colonel Charles Halt, USAF. (Though on British
soil, both bases were manned by American forces).

On January 13, 1981, Halt sent a classified memo regarding the events
to the British Ministry of Defence. That memo, released to U.S. UFO
researcher Robert Todd in June of 1983 through the Freedom of
Information Act, says that several witnesses reported a triangular,
metallic, highly luminous object either hovering or standing on legs,
and then maneuvering through the forest, on the night of December 27.
Though not a witness to this object himself, Halt said that the next
morning he did witness three depressions in the ground, arranged in a
triangular pattern, that apparently marked where the object had stood.
Halt further stated that on the following night he and others
witnessed an astounding display of moving lights in the sky.

Halt's memo left little doubt that whatever happened was out of the
ordinary, but continuing efforts by independent researchers have not
resolved the Bentwaters mystery, and current opinions vary widely.
Some now believe the strange events were all staged as part of a very
elaborate psychological warfare test, possibly involving mind-control
techniques. Others say craft of unknown origin were seen at close
range, and that extensive photo and physical evidence was gathered at
the site -- all of which was then locked away in government vaults.
Still others say not only craft but "aliens" were seen and contacted.
Finally, there are the hard-line skeptics who say nothing at all
remarkable happened, except that airmen who should know better mistook
the light of a nearby lighthouse in the fog for
something otherworldly.

Now CNI News has learned of a U.S. soldier who was stationed at
Bentwaters some years after the famous 1980 events, but who saw
several things that lend strong credence to the strange claims
associated with the base. This soldier prefers that his name not be
used in this story, but he has communicated under his own name with
CNI News editor Michael Lindemann.

Concerning his military background, the soldier says: "I entered the
service in 1983 and was assigned to RAF Bentwaters in 1984. I was
involved in nuclear weapons and because of our extensive background
investigations, members of our section were often called upon to do
other high-security details. Since even the Security Police didn't
have as high a clearence, a lot of these details were simply being our
own guards -- hence my access to the vault (see below). I volunteered
for as many of these details as I could because it was supposed to
create an impressive military record. However, when I arrived at my
next base (I left Bentwaters late in '86) no records of my special
duties followed me. I called my immediate supervisor when I discovered
this and he said, 'What happens at Bentwaters stays at Bentwaters.' I
think this had more to do with security than UFOs. I was an enlisted
man and I was an E-4 Sgt when I entered the vault. I left the service
in 1988. I was still angry that none of my record followed me. I
simply didn't re-enlist and had an honorable discharge. I was still an
E-4."

Here is the soldier's account of his extraordinary experience in "the
vault" at Bentwaters, where apparently something very interesting and
very secret is hidden.

"On RAF Bentwaters there is a secured area around the flightline. This
is normal and many people have access, but not all. Inside this area
is another secured area containing the munitions dump. Again, this is
normal; fewer people have access to this. On this particular base
there is another weapons storage area that only a few people can get
in. You are searched and must travel around in pairs inside this area.
It is heavily guarded. The bunkers in this area require an elaborate
key and password sequence to get in. One particular bunker is
different.

"Inside this bunker is a vault with two combinations and two locks.
Because of regulations, no one person can have access to more than one
[combination or lock]. Hence, if you can get a key you won't get the
combo, or vice-versa. It takes four people to open the door --plus the
security team verifying passwords, etc. This is the most secure area I
have ever seen in the Air Force.

"I was picked to be a key holder, which meant that I was armed, and
told to escort the individual who needed [access to] the vault, along
with the three others needed to open the door. I don't know who the
individual was; he was American and a civilian. We opened the door and
I at first couldn't believe it. It contained a roughly-made shelf made
out of two-by-fours holding two old wooden crates. The individual
opened one of the crates, which was only sealed with a lead seal, and
inside was a green styrofoam container in two halves. He opened it up
and inside was a rod about a quarter inch in diameter and bent about
three times along its length. It looked solid and if it were straight
it would be
about a foot long. It was dull but corrosion free from what I could
tell. The man looked at it for about a minute, then put it away and
resealed the box with a new lead seal.

“For his minute we spent about four hours preparing to open the vault.
It is that secure.

“That was when I started asking questions about why a small rod would
require so much security. The underlings such as me hadn’t a clue, but
when I started asking others I was told not to worry about it. One
officer that I knew personally once said under his breath that it was
‘proof,’ but when I pressed him he denied saying it. The only other
response I got, from people who obviously didn’t know, [was] that it
probably had something to do with all the UFOs that supposedly visit
the base.”

This soldier has no doubt that he saw something very extraordinary in
that vault, but he was highly skeptical of a UFO connection until he
had his own amazing sighting at Bentwaters some time later. Here is
his account.

“I was working nights and for once the sky above the base was clear. I
took an astronomy class in college and was testing my knowledge of the
constellations when I saw what looked like an equilateral triangle. Of
all the constellations, none I could think of formed a triangle with
such bright stars. I had been looking and thinking for about five or
ten minutes when, right when I was looking directly at them, the stars
turned a full circle, each ending up where they started, and then shot
out at 90 degree angles from the direction they were moving, and
within a second were gone over the horizon, each going a different
direction. Because they were just points of light I figured they were
far away and that would make their speed something incredible. I was
so shook up I took the rest of the night off and for weeks had this
nightmare that all the stars in the sky were spinning, and thus the
end of the universe was near. That may sound strange, but it was that
disturbing.”

It is interesting to compare this soldier’s sighting with Colonel
Halt’s eyewitness description of events on December 28, 1980. Halt
wrote in his memo: “Three star-like objects were noticed in the sky,
two objects to the north and one to the south, all of which were about
10 degrees off the horizon. The objects moved rapidly in sharp angular
movements and displayed red, green and blue lights. The objects to the
north appeared to be elliptical through an 8-12 power lens. They then
turned to full circles. The objects to the north remained in the sky
for an hour or more. The object to the south was visible for two or
three hours and beamed down a stream of light from time to time.”
By Michael Lindemann

H.

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> Sir Arti�

The debunkers are suicidal around the holidays, but
they are too
chickenshit to follow through!!

==================================================
Damn chicken shit Pop Sucket quit posting old out-dated
UFO
stories. I deleted this one.
H.


Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message

"H"eroin - this is your last warning, hopefully you will follow the
Generals DIRECT order! You and your cult are not to post here ever
again. These groups are for civilized people and honest researchers,
you fail on both counts.

Sir Arthur

H.

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Sir Arthur
===================================================
Holeflapper you dumb ass, the General works for me.
Get that stupid he works for me, I'm his boss.
You are in for a great fall thinking the General is
going to do any of your bidding.
You are nothing more than tiny bit of fat greasing the
gear.
So get smart, it is time for you to retire.
Go home.
Get out.
Drop dead.
H.


Cujo DeSockpuppet

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>
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
> news:c9683aeb-adee-41df...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com.

> .. On Dec 27, 7:55 am, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers
>> A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:282a4df7-d0d8-4609...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.com.

>> .. On Dec 25, 1:27 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers

This post is APPROVED!!!!1!!!!

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award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

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them." - Rebecca "Machiaveli" Ore on her trolling ways.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote innews:_v7_m.14125$ft1....@newsfe10.iad:

>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."

Wrong on both accounts. I will have to become the defaco moderator of
these alien newsgroups, both you and Heroin are now officially BANNED
from these groups. Now, no more posts from you two truth-
terrorists!!!!

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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> On Dec 28, 3:12�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote
>> innews:_v7_m.14125$ft1....@newsfe10.iad:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>> > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message
>> >news:c9683aeb-adee-41df...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.co
>> >m.
>> > .. On Dec 27, 7:55 am, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers
>> >> A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:282a4df7-d0d8-4609...@g4g2000pri.googlegroups.co
>> >>m.
>> >> .. On Dec 25, 1:27 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers
>> >> A.S.A."
>>
>> >> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Dec 24, 6:39 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet
>> >> > <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>> >> > > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> > > innews:8524ae01-f1c6-4c0f...@y32g2000prd.googleg

>> >> > > rou ps.com:

> ==========================> >> Damn chicken shit Pop Sucket quit


> posting old
>> >> out-dated
>> >> UFO
>> >> stories. I deleted this one.
>> >> H.
>>
>> > "H"eroin - this is your last warning, hopefully you
>> > will follow the
>> > Generals DIRECT order! �You and your cult are not to
>> > post here ever
>> > again. �These groups are for civilized people and
>> > honest researchers,
>> > you fail on both counts.
>>
>> > Sir Arthur
>> > =======================

> ===========================> > Holeflapper you dumb ass, the General


> works for me.
>> > Get that stupid he works for me, I'm his boss.
>> > You are in for a great fall thinking the General is
>> > going to do any of your bidding.
>> > You are nothing more than tiny bit of fat greasing the
>> > gear.
>> > So get smart, it is time for you to retire.
>> > Go home.
>> > Get out.
>> > Drop dead.
>>
>> This post is APPROVED!!!!1!!!!
>
> Wrong on both accounts. I will have to become the defaco moderator of
> these alien newsgroups, both you and Heroin are now officially BANNED
> from these groups.

If you were truly a moderator you'd know that you can't ban an Official
Overseer. So your request is DENIED.

> Now, no more posts from you two truth-terrorists!!!!

Fuck off, powerless sockboi.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I was an astrologer 1000 times in Babylon." - Edmo the loon.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 29, 2:55 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

Notice to all debunkers A.K.A. Truth-terrorists, there is no doubt
that your cult will be eliminated in the year 2010! I am 100%
positive the General will approve the use of debunker-busting bombs,
not to mention the 10,000 hydrogen bombs at our disposal.

It would be much wiser for all you to give up and march to the FEMA
camps, but debunkers were never known to be wise.

I will be in the front row cheering when the last debunker is safely
secured in these camps!

Aliens Are Alien Even to Themselves/Multi-Galactic Battle-Zone!//ETs
vs. ETs!!!

An abductee once pointed out that, "There are so many different types
of extraterrestrials, that it is not possible to make statements that
are valid for all of them. Many types are as alien to each other as
they are to us."

By establishing reliable profiles of the different types most
persistently reported, we would at least know what we are dealing with
and be in a far better position to communicate meaningfully.

If there was a war in the cosmos that is still going on, the group in
which we give our allegiance to is a matter of utmost importance.
Though Earth may be no more than a single sector of a multi-galactic
BATTLE ZONE, at least we would be able to make an informed choice
concerning which ET race we enter an alliance with. That would
certainly be preferable to making a decision of such importance in our
present state of blind ignorance.

If peace and harmony reign supreme over the inhabitants of outer
space, and it is we humans who must learn to transcend our aggressive
war-like behavior in order to become eligible for galactic
citizenship; we still need to know who we are dealing with, and be
able to communicate with them.

Those who are debunkers will remain debunkers until obliged to face
the FACTS with their own eyes. For those of us who are already aware
that UFOs are real, the question becomes: What types of beings are
there, and what is their motivation for keeping us under constant
surveillance and clandestinely interacting with us. Plus, what is the
true nature of the USA's and NATO's military response?

It is a matter of extreme urgency that an all out effort be made to
find out as soon as possible about the different types of non-human
intelligent life-forms at present hovering above us and amongst us.

Wendelle Stevens recently confirmed this hypothesis about aliens in a
Val Valerian interview. Said Stevens "In a couple of cases I was
working on, one extraterrestrial race was unaware of the existence of
another race until they ran into them here. That was very interesting,
because it means that the common idea that all extraterrestrials are
in contact with each other is not true."

We can no longer continue to pretend that we are dealing with
misidentifications of weather balloons, the planet Venus, swamp gas or
time-compressed crash-test dummies.

We must establish open alliance with the groups we can work out
mutually beneficial relationships with, and take appropriate measure
to defend ourselves against the predatory activities of the groups who
have come here to exploit us. What is at stake is our survival, not
only as individuals, but also as a human-race.

Thanks to Ida Kannenberg, Val Valerian, Wendelle Stevens and George
Andrews,
a true "visionary."
=========
Perhaps an ET Inter-Galactic War is indeed being waged RIGHT HERE,
RIGHT NOW on this planet Earth!

You don't believe that you say, it couldn't happen here you say; well
guess what--here is the irrefutable and undeniable proof. Please take
a very hard look at this most convincing evidence, that without
question confirms that time is indeed extremely short for ALL
humankind (That includes YOU, Bubba!)

KooKy/spOOky Usenet "truth terrorists" and official "State" UFO
debunkers such as Jimmy O-Borg , Lou “Echelon” Spin-etti and Harry
Borsch-Belt along with their Cult of Useful Idiots are always
screaming for PROOF. Well if it's proof you want, it's proof you
GOT!! Read it and weep, and then let's get organized-before we lose
this most precious planet.

E.T. vs. E.T. in Inter-Galactic War-Zone!

Jeff Miller (jmill...@yahoo.com) writes:

In response to the CAUSupdate of dogfights over Puerto Rico, Several
months ago
I was talking to an informed acquaintance about latest activities with
the various alien groups, and he said to me that we are having an
alien war right now. He confirmed a visual of an actual battle off
the coast of Laguna Beach, CA. He observed a craft being destroyed by
some sort of ray or pulsed energy coming from the direction of outside
our atmosphere in where the craft was completely destroyed and as he
described it was a beautiful green explosion or flash of light that
spread out over the whole horizon and then
disappeared. He gave me the impression he has seen this more than
once and they usually happen around dusk or that is when he has
observed them. If you would like more information I could call him to
see if he would give to you his own actual eye witness account of what
he has seen.

Sir Arthur Wholeflaffer A.S.A. responds:

Now there can be NO question that mankind's future must be measured in
days, if not hours (or even minutes!) unless 100% FULL Disclosure by
the Pentagon//NSA//Northrop-Lockheed faction is forthcoming. Yesterday
would've been too soon. ALL Mankind MUST coordinate our efforts
collectively if there is to be a human race WITHOUT the human//alien
hybrids and the Reptilian Over-Lords!

Enough with the Chem-Trail Spraying; enough of the secret viral/
biological/chemical testing on our civilian population, enough with
the mind control/world control/stock market manipulation and enough of
the New World Odor and Order and enough of the nuclear and neutron
bombing of the planet. It is time for All Mankind to join up as one
HUMAN-civilized people and peacefully co-exist with the numerous off-
world races. We will gladly share our planet with the more
technologically and spiritually advanced races. It may not be too
late, with our off-world neighbors help, to save what is left of our
global environment and to help move Earthlings away from Terra Firma
when our Sun super-novas in 4 billion years.
- - - - - - - -
Jos X responded:

Relax :)
Why are we not obliterated yet ?
It is not allowed by those who have no limit to their power.

Is there a war going on ? I think so, yes, but `earth' is from us (the
good
guys) now, and we are protected by many aliens (and higher entities),
including those from Arctures (who are so much superior to any
`assholes'
/group/[1] the assholes shit in their pants if they see a ship from
them).

The actual threat is coming from looser-humans (!). As long as there
are
asshole-humans (like trolls) walking the earth, the asshole-groups
must be
allowed to be here above earth. This is so these humans can make their
choices for the worst (and be aided with these choices, just like the
good
guys are aided), because freedom to choose exists, even if you choose
eternal
bullshit.

[1]
No species is totally assholes, or totally good: every species has a
portion of
it going to the selfish-side, humans, Zeta, Reptiloid, all are no
different.
This portion is usually the minority. So saying "reptile", does say
nothing
other than a body-type, same for `Zeta', or `Nordic' etc. After all,
it is
the incarnating Soul that counts, not his body. `Gray' is even worse,
it only
means the color of the skin is beyond the human eye to see. I can
imagine many
imature species shudder when they hear the name `human', and fear our
conquest and enslavement, were we to leave this planet as ourselves.
We should be called `Solarii' or something according to standard alien
naming
conventions btw.

Jos
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"artwheeler" <dic...@prodigy.net> responded:

Excellent post and most accurate, and of course, an affiliation with
aliens
of the most common species discussed in our media and reported by
experiencers is already in place. Unfortunately, other species are
involved
who have been in place all the while, as well, who work contrary to
this
alliance, that have likewise been discussed in our media and by
reports of
experiencers.
Think upon our state of affairs of our world minus the Alien
dilemma,
and by microcosmic thinking, realize it is much the same here as it is
out
there. Only the reality is that 'out there' is very much, 'here.'
I remember quite well in being astonished upon asking one Alien
representative of a species about my other Alien contacts of different
species. He acted alarmed, as if that weren't possible. And, then
fumbled
for awhile with what to say, and said, well you best not have anything
to do
with them. I returned from that occasion with the distinct idea that
this
Alien, at least this representative, was not aware of any other kinds
of
Aliens, and thought my claims of contact with other species other than
his
own, were pure delusional. LOLs.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Washington has a love affair with terror by Robin Miller

Many questions remain unasked as the U.S. continues its war on
terrorism. One is whether Washington possesses the moral right to
condemn terrorism when its own hands are so bloody. Let's examine our
use of terror directed against civilians to achieve political or
military goals, beginning with the atomic devastation of Japan.
"Little Boy," exploded over Hiroshima on Aug. 6, 1945, killed 130,000
people immediately (including a dozen U.S. POWs) and 200,000 within
five years, all but some 20,000 of them civilians. Twenty-five square
miles of civilization were gutted. "Fat Man," detonated over Nagasaki
three days later, took another 70,000 lives immediately, and nearly
double that over five years. All but 150 were civilians. That's the
equivalent of 50 World Trade Centers of people vaporized.

When the Korean War erupted in 1950, the U.S. worked on perfecting
this criminal way of waging war, the targeting of a country's civilian
population. Gen. Douglas MacArthur ordered that every "installation,
factory, city and village" be destroyed in much of the north. Gen.
Curtis LeMay reported that "over a period of three years or so ... we
burned down every town in North Korea and South Korea, too." Three
million civilians died in that conflict, a large majority from
American bombing. That's the equivalent of another 750 World Trade
Centers full of the dead.

We employed the same murderous tactic ---- widespread, sustained
assaults on the civilian population---- in the Vietnam War and its
extensions in Cambodia and Laos. U.S. forces dropped 8 million tons of
bombs ---- four times the entire Allied total of World War II. Eighty
percent were dropped on areas rather than individual targets. The
region was immolated with 373,000 tons of napalm, dwarfing the 14,000
tons employed in World War II. We subjected the people of Indochina
to 15 million tons of munitions with the combined explosive power of
600 Hiroshima-type atomic bombs. The result was a decade-long crime
against humanity that killed 2 million to 3 million civilians.

In the same part of the world, we supported Indonesian generals who
presided over the slaughter of a million of their people after a
failed October 1965 coup attempt. The killings of alleged communists
and their families raged for months. The country's rivers became
clogged with bodies.

Washington, however, was euphoric. Time magazine described the
generals' ascension as "the West's best news for years in Asia," while
the Johnson administration, according to The New York Times, expressed
"delight." A decade later, we supported Indonesia's invasion of East
Timor. The attack began less than 24 hours after then-President Ford
concluded a visit to Jakarta. For years thereafter we blocked
international efforts to halt the bloodbath. Some 200,000 Timorese,
one-third of the population, died before Indonesia withdrew in 1999.
This was genocide.

Washington's most recent savageries, which are continuing, are the
suffocating sanctions imposed on Iraq. By 1998, malnutrition and
disease from lack of medicines and clean water had killed 500,000
children under the age of 5 , according to UNICEF. The total deaths
attributable to the sanctions may exceed 1 million. Chalk up 250 World
Trade Centers dead from U.S. sanctions.

Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark reported this year that the
number of deaths of children---- now running at 6,700 a month ----
continues to escalate. That's a World Trade Center full of Iraqi
children dead every month from sanctions.

Our government has known of these deadly conditions from the
beginning. A Jan. 22, 1991 report from the Defense Intelligence
Agency, "Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities," states: "With no
domestic sources of both water treatment replacement parts and some
essential chemicals, Iraq will continue attempts to circumvent United
Nations sanctions to import these vital commodities. Failing to secure
supplies will result in a shortage of pure drinking water for much of
the population. This could lead to increased incidences, if not
epidemics, of disease."

A DIA document dated one month later, "Disease Outbreaks in Iraq,"
reports: "Conditions are favorable for communicable disease outbreaks,
particularly in major urban areas affected by coalition bombing." We
have repeatedly allied ourselves with dictators willing to massacre
their own people. In Argentina, some 30,000 suspected "subversives"
were "disappeared" ---- abducted and murdered ---- during the military
government's "dirty war" from 1976 to 1983. By 1977 a junior official
in the U.S. embassy, "Tex" Harris, concluded that this was "a massive,
coherent, military effort to exterminate Argentine citizens."

In Guatemala, another American ally with a fondness for death squads,
the toll was much higher. The Guatemalan Historical Clarification
Commission has estimated that 200,000 people were killed in more than
30 years of brutal repression, 93 percent of them by government
forces. That's the equivalent of another 50 World Trade Centers.

In these and many other countries ---- Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile, El
Salvador, Iran, Zaire, the Philippines, Greece ---- our record of
support for savage military dictatorships is unconscionable, and
seemingly endless. Now, I do not make the obscene suggestion that "we
had it coming," or that U.S. foreign policy justifies the Sept. 11
attacks. There is no justification for those atrocities. But when
Washington condemns terrorism by others, where, precisely, does it
locate the moral ground on which it purports to stand? - Miller lives
in New Orleans.

H.

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============================================
You are pretty dense Holeflapper. It is not us that is
BANNED, it is you that is BANNED.
Your usefulness has ended you will retire and go home
or you might drop dead.
No more stupid posts. Get that through your thick
skull. Death threats are not usually needed
but in your case it may be advised as your stupid posts
are killing me.
I am boss here not you. Now shut the Fu** up.
--
Cap. Harry (H)
King Of The Usenet Spooks
CEO of:
Oregon Home Spaceship High Invisibility Technology
Room 12, Hanger 18, Area 52,
USAF, Nevada, USA, Planet Earth,
Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy,
More or less on the outer fringe of the Universe.


Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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Dear Mr. National Security Agency spOOk, Not only are you NOT funny,
you are NOT welcome here with civilized, democracy promoting people.
Your organization is the opposite of democracy. Truth-terrorists like
yourself are anti-American, and at its essence anti-human. Now move
along.

HVAC

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>
> > Wrong on both accounts. I will have to become the defaco moderator of
> > these alien newsgroups,


No. *I* am still the moderator of both AAR and AAV.

Please stay on topic or I will be forced to ban you.


Harlow Campbell
Moderator
alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research


Cujo DeSockpuppet

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"HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in
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ALL HAIL HARLOW!!!1!!!

--
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"Yes, I am wise, and its wisdom born from my superior brain!" - Edmond
"What Ego Problem?" Wollmann further deludes himself.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 29, 2:00 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote innews:hhdgvd$89e$1...@hvac.motzarella.org:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in

> > message
> >news:037febed-eeee-4105...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com..
> > .
>
> >> > Wrong on both accounts. I will have to become the defaco moderator
> >> > of these alien newsgroups,
>
> > No.  *I* am still the moderator of both AAR and AAV.
>
> > Please stay on topic or I will be forced to ban you.
>
> > Harlow Campbell
> > Moderator
> > alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research
>
> ALL HAIL HARLOW!!!1!!!

Wrong, whorelow is about as low as a whore can be. Although in most
respects, all debunkers are whores. They will finally be defeated in
the New Year, because I have it on the pipeline that the General may
use 1000 H-Bombs against all debunker strongholds. That would be the
greatest victory for ALL MANKIND (and beyond!)

HVAC

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>
> > No. *I* am still the moderator of both AAR and AAV.
>
> > Please stay on topic or I will be forced to ban you.
>
> > Harlow Campbell
> > Moderator
> > alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research
>
> ALL HAIL HARLOW!!!1!!!

Wrong, whorelow is about as low as a whore can be. Although in most
respects, all debunkers are whores. They will finally be defeated in
the New Year, because I have it on the pipeline that the General may
use 1000 H-Bombs against all debunker strongholds. That would be the
greatest victory for ALL MANKIND (and beyond!)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Sir Arthur~

It has recently come to my attention that you have
been making off-topic posts and generally have been
disruptive in these groups. In my official capacity as
moderator, I must ask that you cease and desist this
type of posting or I will be forced to take harsher steps
against you.

Thank you for you cooperation in this matter.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 30, 4:33 am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:42f9c47c-f3a9-40e5...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

Whorelow, you and all your sock-puppets are NOT welcome here. AS the
de-facto moderator and Fuehrer Escort in the War Against Truth-Terror
A.K.A. OPEL-REDU, I must insist that you and ALL of your sock-puppets
LEAVE forever.

This order can NOT and will NOT be rescinded.
This is your only warning, take heed!

Being a Debunker means never having to say you're sorry, or even
making a lick of sense!
Sage advice by John F. Schuessler

Debunkers: I have heard it said that the most frustrating and least
useful aspect of ufology is the machinations of the debunkers.
Debunkers are experts at the use of disinformation, misinformation,
and propaganda. They provide prosaic explanations for everything. If
the first story gets challenged, they simply generate another story
and do not even apologize for changing their position. No information
or data supplied by the ufologist is ever good enough for them. Truth,
honesty, ethics and things like that are foreign to their way of
operating because it might erode their position. They seldom do real
investigations.

Most of their explanations are canned and used over and over so that
they do not feel it necessary to do investigations. All this is very
frustrating to the ufologists that conduct extensive investigations,
record every little detail of a UFO incident, assemble statistics,
maintain vast databases, and probably most of all, respect the good
and honest witnesses who report their UFO incidents.

Perhaps it would help ufologists to deal with the debunkers if they
understood why the debunkers act in such a manner. This is best
described in The Argument Culture, a book by Georgetown University
professor Deborah Tannen. These machinations are an example of what
the cultural linguist Walter Ong calls "agonism" or "programmed
contentiousness." Agonism does not refer to disagreement, conflict, or
vigorous dispute. It refers to ritualized opposition.

Professor Tannen says: "The way we train our students, conduct our
classes and our research, and exchange ideas at meetings and in print
are all driven by our ideological assumption that intellectual inquiry
is a metaphorical battle. Following from that is a second assumption,
that the best way to demonstrate intellectual prowess is to criticize,
find fault, and attack." Further, she says: "Many aspects of our
academic lives can be described as agonistic. For example, in our
scholarly papers, most of us follow a conventional framework that
requires us to position our work in opposition to someone else's,
which we prove wrong.

The framework tempts, almost requires us to oversimplify or even
misrepresent others' positions; cite the weakest example to make a
generally reasonable work appear less so; and ignore facts that
support other's views, citing only evidence that supports our own
positions."

This approach "fosters a stance of arrogance and narrow-mindedness."
There is much more of value in The Argument Culture, but in these few
words, I believe Professor Tannen has clearly exposed the operating
technique used by most debunkers. With this information in mind, it is
fairly obvious that we are stuck with a continuing tirade by the
debunkers and it will continue until they all die off. They are unable
to change, they are
programmed to act as they do.

Fortunately, most ufologists have no desire to play the debunkers
game. Programmed contentiousness is viewed as dishonest, unfair and
unethical. It puts an end to exploring ideas, uncovering nuances,
comparing and contrasting different interpretations of a particular
work, and gaining a deeper and more accurate understanding of the
material. It kills the quest for open-minded inquiry.

Even knowing all of this, ufologists still allow themselves to be
stressed by the actions of debunkers. A good investigator is likely to
be provoked by a debunker's announcement that a certain UFO was
actually Venus when everyone knows that Venus was not visible at the
time. A debunker's demand for "all of your investigative files so I
can identify the UFO," is another provoking ploy. They play on your
ego by saying "I have never seen any credible evidence of a UFO,"
hoping you will try to provide some evidence that will convince them.
Will it convince them? No! Their debunker's pre-subscribed dogma will
not allow it. If all else fails, they will claim it is your
responsibility as an investigator to respond to their demands. Don't
fall for that ploy. Only you and the organization you represent can
define your responsibilities.

A formula for avoiding stress caused by the actions of the debunkers
is to follow industry's lead in looking for "value added" in any
interchange or effort. If there is nothing to be gained from
responding to them, then don't do it. Apply your energies where they
will make a difference. Don't play their game. It takes two to make a
game and if you do not respond to their provocation, then they do not
have a game. They lose and you are not stressed.
+++===+++===+++===+++===+++===+++===+++===+++++===+++===+
"Science of Not Knowing" by John E. Mack, M.D.

Despite official skepticism and even cynicism in media, government,
and scientific circles, it must be evident to many Americans that
something extraordinary-at least from the standpoint of the Western
worldview-is going on. No conventional explanation for the thousands
of reported cases of encounters with alien beings has been sufficient,
and this remains true in spite of the fact that the experiencers
themselves would, with rare exceptions, welcome any explanation other
than that they are being visited without their permission by humanoid
creatures from another place.

Yet the debate that is devoted to the UFO abduction phenomenon remains
focused largely on the question of whether or not it is real in the
strictly physical sense. Some skeptics even claim or imply that,
insofar as the physical evidence for the reality of the phenomenon
does not meet standards of scientific proof, we can presume for
practical purposes that it does not exist at all.

But what if the phenomenon were subtle in the sense that it may
manifest in the physical world, but derive from a source which by its
very nature could not provide the kind of hard evidence that would
satisfy skeptics for whom reality is limited to the material? If so,
might we not be losing an opportunity to learn and grow as a species
by remaining so wedded to an epistemology of physical proof?

What if, instead, we were to acknowledge that the abduction phenomenon
is intrinsically mysterious and, ultimately, beyond our present
framework of knowledge? What if we were to admit our puzzlement before
this mystery?

Might not such an attitude of humility become, paradoxically, a way to
enlarge upon what could then be learned? Is it possible that adopting
an open attitude could result in greater knowledge not only about the
physical aspects of the phenomenon, but about numinous dimensions as
well?

And might not this opening of consciousness enable us to learn of
unseen realities now obscured by our too limited epistemology,
allowing us to rediscover the sacred and the divinity in nature and in
ourselves?

HVAC

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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
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>
> Dear Sir Arthur~
>
> It has recently come to my attention that you have
> been making off-topic posts and generally have been
> disruptive in these groups. In my official capacity as
> moderator, I must ask that you cease and desist this
> type of posting or I will be forced to take harsher steps
> against you.
>
> Thank you for you cooperation in this matter.
>
> Harlow Campbell
> Moderator
> alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research

Whorelow, you and all your sock-puppets are NOT welcome here. AS the
de-facto moderator and Fuehrer Escort in the War Against

<<<SNIP>>>


Dear Sir Arthur~

I now find it incumbent upon me to suspend your posting
to these groups for as much time as I deem necessary.

You will know when I have rescinded your suspension
when your posts are allowed back in.

H.

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"HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I concur with this order.
--
Cap. Harry

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:57:36 PM12/30/09
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
news:3786c1fe-d43c-4e7b...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com:

> de-facto moderator and Fuehrer Escort [slap!]

Godwin invoked. You lose, sockboi.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"But that's how it's going to be until until we get some admins killing
trolls. Yes, it's boring. Yes, it's stupid. And yes, I will persist
until the admins act effectively." - Fucknozzle Jr.

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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"H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in
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This poast hace been teh APPROVEDEST!!!1!!!

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I personally believe that all the ages of people prior
to the Flood of Noah are more correctly perceived when divided be 9 ...
that TIME as we know it only began to "gel" at the point of the flood."
- Georgann, making a mockery of Xtainity again.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 30, 9:13 am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:3786c1fe-d43c-4e7b...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...

VD/VAC-Whorelow - This is your LAST warning after the previous LAST
warning.

These groups for 2010 (and beyond) are declared a DEBUNKER-FREE zone.
Thus you and your kind ("H"eroin) are NOT allowed here. Go find some
other cyber-space to mess up. These groups are for civilized and
decent people, and since you are neither and never will be, your only
course of action is to leave and leave now. Good luck wherever you
go.

Sir Arthur
De-Facto Moderator!!

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
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This is your last chance to fuck off, Artie/Gary.

> These groups for 2010 (and beyond) are declared a DEBUNKER-FREE zone.
> Thus you and your kind ("H"eroin) are NOT allowed here. Go find some
> other cyber-space to mess up. These groups are for civilized and
> decent people, and since you are neither and never will be, your only
> course of action is to leave and leave now. Good luck wherever you
> go.

Fuck off, Artie/Gary.

The OOoKaT.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"I have always thought that the reason Dinosaurs were so big is because
of the dramatic difference in gravitational strength between that time
period and now" - Edmo the paleontologist.

Mark Probert

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On Dec 30, 12:13 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:3786c1fe-d43c-4e7b...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> > Dear Sir Arthur~
>
> > It has recently come to my attention that you have
> > been making off-topic posts and generally have been
> > disruptive in these groups. In my official capacity as
> > moderator, I must ask that you cease and desist this
> > type of posting or I will be forced to take harsher steps
> > against you.
>
> > Thank you for you cooperation in this matter.
>
> > Harlow Campbell
> > Moderator
> > alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research
>
> Whorelow,  you and all your sock-puppets are NOT welcome here.  AS the
> de-facto moderator and Fuehrer Escort in the War Against
>
> <<<SNIP>>>
>
> Dear Sir Arthur~
>
> I now find it incumbent upon me to suspend your posting
> to these groups for as much time as I deem necessary.

Your yard stick should be "to the end of time".

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 31, 8:48 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

Now you are beginning to sound like the late-ungreat debunker known as
phil BULLSHIT Klass.

Yes, Folks, I DID predict this WOULD happen. When the UFO cover-up
officially ended, which it has, the debunkers would simply crack up
and spout off obscenities. Again I am proven 100% correct.

WE are trying to make these groups Debunker-free zones, but it MAY be
impossible to make them crack-pot and/or spOOk-free zones. But we
will try. Hopefully the Octagon® will finally use 20,000 hydrogen
bombs against ALL debunkers i.e. truth-terrorist strong-holds in
2010. We MUST get rid of the cancer of debukers or else ALL EARTH IS
DOOMED®!!

Happy new year (does NOT apply to debunkers!)

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
news:428035d0-459f-4dee...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 31, 8:48ïŋ―am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:c
> 657acab-d4b4-4345...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 30, 9:13ïŋ―am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> in messa
>> > genews:3786c1fe-d43c-4e7b...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.

>> > com ...


>>
>> >> > Dear Sir Arthur~
>>
>> >> > It has recently come to my attention that you have
>> >> > been making off-topic posts and generally have been
>> >> > disruptive in these groups. In my official capacity as
>> >> > moderator, I must ask that you cease and desist this
>> >> > type of posting or I will be forced to take harsher steps
>> >> > against you.
>>
>> >> > Thank you for you cooperation in this matter.
>>
>> >> > Harlow Campbell
>> >> > Moderator
>> >> > alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research
>>

>> >> Whorelow, ïŋ―you and all your sock-puppets are NOT welcome here. ïŋ―AS


> th
>> > e
>> >> de-facto moderator and Fuehrer Escort in the War Against
>>
>> >> <<<SNIP>>>
>>
>> >> Dear Sir Arthur~
>>
>> >> I now find it incumbent upon me to suspend your posting
>> >> to these groups for as much time as I deem necessary.
>>
>> >> You will know when I have rescinded your suspension
>> >> when your posts are allowed back in.
>>
>> >> Thank you for you cooperation in this matter.
>>

>> >> ïŋ―Harlow Campbell
>> >> ïŋ―Moderator
>> >> ïŋ―alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research


>>
>> > VD/VAC-Whorelow - This is your LAST warning after the previous LAST
>> > warning.
>>
>> This is your last chance to fuck off, Artie/Gary.
>>
>> > These groups for 2010 (and beyond) are declared a DEBUNKER-FREE

>> > zone. Thus you and your kind ("H"eroin) are NOT allowed here. ïŋ―Go
>> > find some other cyber-space to mess up. ïŋ―These groups are for


>> > civilized and decent people, and since you are neither and never
>> > will be, your only course of action is to leave and leave now.

>> > ïŋ―Good luck wherever you go.


>>
>> Fuck off, Artie/Gary.
>
> Now you are beginning to sound like the late-ungreat debunker known as
> phil BULLSHIT Klass.
>
> Yes, Folks, I DID predict this WOULD happen. When the UFO cover-up
> officially ended, which it has, the debunkers would simply crack up
> and spout off obscenities. Again I am proven 100% correct.
>
> WE are trying to make these groups Debunker-free zones, but it MAY be
> impossible to make them crack-pot and/or spOOk-free zones. But we

> will try. Hopefully the Octagonïŋ― will finally use 20,000 hydrogen


> bombs against ALL debunkers i.e. truth-terrorist strong-holds in
> 2010. We MUST get rid of the cancer of debukers or else ALL EARTH IS

> DOOMEDïŋ―!!


>
> Happy new year (does NOT apply to debunkers!)

Whine some more, sockboi. Just do it elsewhere.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.

"You will lose your ass when I sue you fraud. I have never plagiarized
anything." - Edmo, caught red-handed again, adds to the Lawsuit List.

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.

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On Dec 31, 5:25 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:428035d0-459f-4dee...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

>
>
>
> > On Dec 31, 8:48 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:c
> > 657acab-d4b4-4345-8670-2cfb55646...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

>
> >> > On Dec 30, 9:13 am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> >> in messa
> >> > genews:3786c1fe-d43c-4e7b...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.
> >> > com ...
>
> >> >> > Dear Sir Arthur~
>
> >> >> > It has recently come to my attention that you have
> >> >> > been making off-topic posts and generally have been
> >> >> > disruptive in these groups. In my official capacity as
> >> >> > moderator, I must ask that you cease and desist this
> >> >> > type of posting or I will be forced to take harsher steps
> >> >> > against you.
>
> >> >> > Thank you for you cooperation in this matter.
>
> >> >> > Harlow Campbell
> >> >> > Moderator
> >> >> > alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research
>
> >> >> Whorelow,  you and all your sock-puppets are NOT welcome here.  AS

> >  th
> >> > e
> >> >> de-facto moderator and Fuehrer Escort in the War Against
>
> >> >> <<<SNIP>>>
>
> >> >> Dear Sir Arthur~
>
> >> >> I now find it incumbent upon me to suspend your posting
> >> >> to these groups for as much time as I deem necessary.
>
> >> >> You will know when I have rescinded your suspension
> >> >> when your posts are allowed back in.
>
> >> >> Thank you for you cooperation in this matter.
>
> >> >>  Harlow Campbell
> >> >>  Moderator
> >> >>  alt.alien.visitors + alt.alien.research
>
> >> > VD/VAC-Whorelow - This is your LAST warning after the previous LAST
> >> > warning.
>
> >> This is your last chance to fuck off, Artie/Gary.
>
> >> > These groups for 2010 (and beyond) are declared a DEBUNKER-FREE
> >> > zone. Thus you and your kind ("H"eroin) are NOT allowed here.  Go
> >> > find some other cyber-space to mess up.  These groups are for

> >> > civilized and decent people, and since you are neither and never
> >> > will be, your only course of action is to leave and leave now.
> >> >  Good luck wherever you go.
>
> >> Fuck off, Artie/Gary.
>
> > Now you are beginning to sound like the late-ungreat debunker known as
> > phil BULLSHIT Klass.
>
> > Yes, Folks, I DID predict this WOULD happen.  When the UFO cover-up
> > officially ended, which it has, the debunkers would simply crack up
> > and spout off obscenities. Again I am proven 100% correct.
>
> > WE are trying to make these groups Debunker-free zones, but it MAY be
> > impossible to make them crack-pot and/or spOOk-free zones.  But we
> > will try.  Hopefully the Octagon® will finally use 20,000 hydrogen

> > bombs against ALL debunkers i.e. truth-terrorist strong-holds in
> > 2010.  We MUST get rid of the cancer of debukers or else ALL EARTH IS
> > DOOMED®!!

>
> > Happy new year (does NOT apply to debunkers!)
>
> Whine some more, sockboi. Just do it elsewhere.

AH-hemmm, this is a useful idiot-FREE zone, so split NOW!

'nuff said!!

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