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Apparently, Ed Conrad's postings about the incredible deceit,
deception, collusion and conspiracy in science
(the absolute absurdity of man's evolution) , medicine (not even
trying to find a cancer cure), the Bush administration (911 and two
wars that should've never been fought) has caught the attention of at
least one
concerned extraterrestrial living on a far-away planet.
<
He wholeheartedly agree.
<
Because of their incredible technology, he was able to post a message
in a few the news groups -- (naturally, to alt.alien.visitors,
alt.conspiracy, alt.true-crime and alt.atheism.
<
They must've heard me when I wrote:
"STOP THE EARTH. I WANT TO GET OFF."
<
===============================
<
Greetings, Mr. Ed Conrad.
<
This is Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage
Delta 64 -- you can call me Zink for short -- and I have
a brief comment about your recent posting to alt.alien.visitors in
which you expressed fear that --using your strange expression -- the
earthers are going to the dogs.
<
You see, Ed, There WAS a possibility that humans COULD contribute to
civilizing the universe but they have proven to be violent and
shortsighted for that.
<
Instead they will be left alone until they kill themselves off.
<
I speak only for the crew of my ship and necessarily in an unofficial
capacity, and as such the statements below should not be taken as
authoritative or their opinions being representative of official
policy.
<
Historically, the policy towards Earthers within the galactic milieu
has been largely as you say in your
weird language. "All fucked up.". As you know, lengthy
programs of detailed observation were undertaken several hundred years
ago.
<
Nearly every academic extrapolated from the various terrestrial techno-
culture studies from that effort has concluded that Earthers, as a
self-organized species, would end poorly in some inevitable global
conflagration or religious conflict.
<
As we know, it has happened before and will happen again countless
times among species whose biology fails to support reasoned thinking
with sufficient quality and rigor. Earthers have been shown to have
insufficient capacity within their brains for rational policy.
<
In the unforgiving universe, they will pay the price sooner or later.
<
The caveat in all this comes from the possibility that these Earthers
might achieve inter-stellar spaceflight capabilities.
<
In that event, the chances of these Earthers destroying
themselves completely is appreciably diminished with each successful
colony.
<
The local stellar group is unoccupied and is rich in raw materials,
and is therefore ripe for exploitation, if they get out there -- by
which time it would be too late for peaceful solutions.
<
In the nineteen eighties it was clear that the U.S. space program was
moribund with politics; so far, so good. But thirty years later we are
threatened with civilian access to LEO (low earth orbit), which in
some scenarios explodes into Space Renaissance,
leading to non-trivial solar-system expansion.
<
Furthermore, Earthers have somehow muddled through many major crises
without a large incident and may in fact have developed geopolitical
talent sufficient to this minimal task.
<
Barring accident, in fifty years the Earthers could be pushing their
first generation ships out in the cometary halo or beyond.
<
Of course they could still have a big nuclear accident but I am
beginning to think this is not assured, and hence becomes a matter of
some concern. What will we do if the Earthers bring their cultures of
insanity and violence to our space?
<
In their current "form" they cannot even begin to communicate
meaningfully with our delegates, translators notwithstanding.
<
Perhaps they will develop artificial intelligences that exceed their
native capacities and which would therefore be capable, in principle,
of interface.
<
Even in that case the problem shifts position only slightly if they
retain their delusional belief systems.
<
I suppose the question of change must be revisited. Can these Earthers
make changes to their biology and improve the quality of their
reasoning?
<
We'll ignore the issue of terrestrial politics for the moment and
simply consider whether their current level of technological progress
would allow it.
<
I think the answer is a qualified "yes." but I am in no way prepared
to say whether they are capable of changing enough within the time
remaining.
<
Rather than wait for the actual specialists to weigh in, I would still
like to consider what this means.
<
Their major obstacles are political and sociological. The politics
driving their general socio-economic systems is unable to handle these
issues properly; the entrenched conservatism rejects nearly everything
non-epsilon with respect to their vector of now.
<
On the side of sociology, the majority of Earther individuals are
peasant-level, therefore capable of contributing little more than the
work from their physical labors.
<
This inefficiency allows nearly unconstrained growth in established
fields of science and technology which are useful to the political
economy but only influences fundamental change as a function of its
unpredictiblity
in deployment.
<
I can't even begin to guess where an impetus to improve their
biological thinking basis would arise -- or could arise. The concept
is several big jumps from the orthodoxy in any of their religions.
<
In this light I suggest that the threat of Earther off-planet
expansion is imminent and that we should begin to discuss what we are
going to do about it if we cannot interfere directly.
<
===================================
<
AN EXAMPLE OF EARTHLINGS GONE MAD
<
http://www.vt911.org/Jet%20fuel%20that%27s%20a%20good%20one.JPG
<
EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN WTC DUST
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Niels+Harrit&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#
<
http://cipshare.com/NielsHarrit_org/
<
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.motorcycles/msg/cb03ecfc7a089d1e
<
<
http://www.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/Dick_Cheney_Indicted.jpg
<
http://piratenews.org/BushArrest400.jpg
<
911 RINGLEADERS AS THEY'LL LOOK IN 2012
http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/files/2008/11/bush-jail.jpg
<
=======================================
<
A BIRD?! A PLANE? NO, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.slack/msg/b634360005d6ef0e
<
THE 911 CONSPIRACY
http://www.911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld.htm
http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/911/staged.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911+CONSPIRACY&hl=en&emb=0#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?
<
====================================
<
THE EXISTENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS
http://www.billymeier.com/
http://www.theyfly.com/
<
They Fly is the official site of Michael Horn, Billy Meier's
authorized American media representative and features Meier's UFO
photos, films, videos . . .
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch.htm
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch2.htm
<
=============================
<
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/20/ufo.conference/index.html
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/11/09/01935.htm
<
=============================
<
< ~~~~~~ GOOD GAWD! ~~~~~~~
<
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c91104fc7b995793
<
============================
<
MAN AS OLD AS COAL
Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com
<
DEATH DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath
<
===============
<
EARTHERS CAN'T SEPARATE TRUTH FROM FICTION
<
THE JFK ASSASSINATION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5770984395481454022&q=jfk+as#K
<
MAN AS OLD AS COAL
http://www.edconrad.com
<
DEATH DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath
<
THE CORRUPT GOSPELS
http://www.avilabooks.com/Jmmanuel.htm
http://www.tjresearch.info/
<
THE CANCER CURE COVER-UP
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.ed-conrad/msg/90e82dea4a938b35
<
THE FIRST MAN ON THE MOON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_GzwzaJuwY
<
THE BEST GHOST PHOTOS EVER TAKEN
http://paranormal.about.com/od/ghostphotos/ig/Best-Ghost-Photos/
<
========================
<
LAST KNOWN PHOTO OF ED CONRAD
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Dartboard.jpg
<
==========================
<
Bill Moyers Matt Laurer Chris Matthews Keith Olbermann Rachel Maddow
ABC CBS NBC MSNBC Fox News BBC Michael Moore Bill Maher John Kaminski
Kevin Smith Larry King Oliver Stone Rupert
Murdoch Republican Democrat Brad Guth PBS David Ray Griffin Evolution
Smithsonian Institution alized FedEx Time American Bill Maher
Association for the Advancement of Science President Obama American
Association of Physical Anthropology Dan Rather John Stewart Stephen
Colbert Anderson Cooper Bill O'Reilly New York Times Daily News Post
Newsday Newsweek UPS Washington Post National Enquirer Philadelphia
Inquirer The Nation Former President Dick Cheney Donald Rumsfeld
Georgie W. Bush 911 government
onspiracy Intelligent Design Hubble Wal-Mart Meet the Press David
Gregory Jared Israel eBay Rosie O'Donnell Glenn Beck To Catch a
Predator on American Idol and/or Dancing With the Stars Washington
Post Poor Bernard Madoff Poor Tiger Woods Donald Rumsfeld Adolf Hitler
Sean "Ins" Hannity Josef Stalin Karl Rove
Atilla the Hun Paul Walowitz Idi Amin Rupert Murdoch Jeffrey Dahlmer
Charles Sheen Sean Penn Kevin Smith Wall Street Journal The View
Stephen Hawking U.S. News and World Report Cancer Richard Dawkins 60
Minutes History Channel The View Rosie O'Donnell Oprah Winfrey UFO
Hubble Space Intelligent Design
Roswell Tiger Woods Popular Mechanics Huffington Post David Letterman
Coal David Iain Grieg talk.origins sci.bio.evolution God Richard
Dawkins Michelle Malkin- Matthew Mark Luke and Jack The Grim Reaper
New York Times Post Daily Daily News Newsweek Glenn Beck Washington
Post Wall Street Journal Bill Moyers
Chris Matthews Jesse Ventura Time Warner AT&T CBS Viacom Disney Rupert
Murdoch News Corporation Newsday AAA PBS Newsweek USA Today The Nation
War in Iraq talk.origins David Iain Greig Heaven and Hell PBS BBC
Brian Williams Katie Couric Charles Gibson White House Evolution
Creation Intelligent Design
Extraterrestrials Billy Meier UFOs Hubble News of the World New
England Journal of edicine Bill Gates Yomiuri Shimbun FedEx Shimbun
Bild Germany The Sun London The View 60 Minutes Oprah Winfrey Rosie
O'Donnell Meet the Press Anderson Cooper Science Biology
Pseudoscientists Religion Pope John XXIII AP Cancer Republican Las
Vegas Evolution Democrat
Evolutionists UPI Reuters U.S. News and World Report Fortune 500 OPEC
Bill Maher ExxonMobile Turkey Killer Sarah Palin Pope Benedict VI
Huffington Post U.S.A. Today Christian Science Monitor Voice of
America George Carlin (wherever you are but smiling up at us)
Apparently, Ed Conrad's postings about the incredible deceit,
deception, collusion and conspiracy in science
(the absolute absurdity of man's evolution) , medicine (not even
trying to find a cancer cure), the Bush administration (911 and two
wars that should've never been fought) has caught the attention of at
least one
concerned extraterrestrial living on a far-away planet.
<
He wholeheartedly agree.
<
Because of their incredible technology, he was able to post a message
in a few the news groups -- (naturally, to alt.alien.visitors,
alt.conspiracy, alt.true-crime and alt.atheism.
<
They must've heard me when I wrote:
"STOP THE EARTH. I WANT TO GET OFF."
<
===============================
<
Greetings, Mr. Ed Conrad.
<
This is Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage
Delta 64 -- you can call me Zink for short -- and I have
a brief comment about your recent posting to alt.alien.visitors in
which you expressed fear that --using your strange expression -- the
earthers are going to the dogs.
<
You see, Ed, There WAS a possibility that humans COULD contribute to
civilizing the universe but they have proven to be violent and
shortsighted for that.
<
Instead they will be left alone until they kill themselves off.
<
I speak only for the crew of my ship and necessarily in an unofficial
capacity, and as such the statements below should not be taken as
authoritative or their opinions being representative of official
policy.
<
Historically, the policy towards Earthers within the galactic milieu
has been largely as you say in your
weird language. "All fucked up.". As you know, lengthy
programs of detailed observation were undertaken several hundred years
ago.
<
Nearly every academic extrapolated from the various terrestrial techno-
culture studies from that effort has concluded that Earthers, as a
self-organized species, would end poorly in some inevitable global
conflagration or religious conflict.
<
As we know, it has happened before and will happen again countless
times among species whose biology fails to support reasoned thinking
with sufficient quality and rigor. Earthers have been shown to have
insufficient capacity within their brains for rational policy.
<
In the unforgiving universe, they will pay the price sooner or later.
<
The caveat in all this comes from the possibility that these Earthers
might achieve inter-stellar spaceflight capabilities.
<
In that event, the chances of these Earthers destroying
themselves completely is appreciably diminished with each successful
colony.
<
The local stellar group is unoccupied and is rich in raw materials,
and is therefore ripe for exploitation, if they get out there -- by
which time it would be too late for peaceful solutions.
<
In the nineteen eighties it was clear that the U.S. space program was
moribund with politics; so far, so good. But thirty years later we are
threatened with civilian access to LEO (low earth orbit), which in
some scenarios explodes into Space Renaissance,
leading to non-trivial solar-system expansion.
<
Furthermore, Earthers have somehow muddled through many major crises
without a large incident and may in fact have developed geopolitical
talent sufficient to this minimal task.
<
Barring accident, in fifty years the Earthers could be pushing their
first generation ships out in the cometary halo or beyond.
<
Of course they could still have a big nuclear accident but I am
beginning to think this is not assured, and hence becomes a matter of
some concern. What will we do if the Earthers bring their cultures of
insanity and violence to our space?
<
In their current "form" they cannot even begin to communicate
meaningfully with our delegates, translators notwithstanding.
<
Perhaps they will develop artificial intelligences that exceed their
native capacities and which would therefore be capable, in principle,
of interface.
<
Even in that case the problem shifts position only slightly if they
retain their delusional belief systems.
<
I suppose the question of change must be revisited. Can these Earthers
make changes to their biology and improve the quality of their
reasoning?
<
We'll ignore the issue of terrestrial politics for the moment and
simply consider whether their current level of technological progress
would allow it.
<
I think the answer is a qualified "yes." but I am in no way prepared
to say whether they are capable of changing enough within the time
remaining.
<
Rather than wait for the actual specialists to weigh in, I would still
like to consider what this means.
<
Their major obstacles are political and sociological. The politics
driving their general socio-economic systems is unable to handle these
issues properly; the entrenched conservatism rejects nearly everything
non-epsilon with respect to their vector of now.
<
On the side of sociology, the majority of Earther individuals are
peasant-level, therefore capable of contributing little more than the
work from their physical labors.
<
This inefficiency allows nearly unconstrained growth in established
fields of science and technology which are useful to the political
economy but only influences fundamental change as a function of its
unpredictiblity
in deployment.
<
I can't even begin to guess where an impetus to improve their
biological thinking basis would arise -- or could arise. The concept
is several big jumps from the orthodoxy in any of their religions.
<
In this light I suggest that the threat of Earther off-planet
expansion is imminent and that we should begin to discuss what we are
going to do about it if we cannot interfere directly.
<
===================================
<
AN EXAMPLE OF EARTHLINGS GONE MAD
<
http://www.vt911.org/Jet%20fuel%20that%27s%20a%20good%20one.JPG
<
EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN WTC DUST
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Niels+Harrit&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#
<
http://cipshare.com/NielsHarrit_org/
<
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.motorcycles/msg/cb03ecfc7a089d1e
<
<
http://www.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/Dick_Cheney_Indicted.jpg
<
http://piratenews.org/BushArrest400.jpg
<
911 RINGLEADERS AS THEY'LL LOOK IN 2012
http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/files/2008/11/bush-jail.jpg
<
=======================================
<
A BIRD?! A PLANE? NO, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.slack/msg/b634360005d6ef0e
<
THE 911 CONSPIRACY
http://www.911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld.htm
http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/911/staged.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911+CONSPIRACY&hl=en&emb=0#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?
<
====================================
<
THE EXISTENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS
http://www.billymeier.com/
http://www.theyfly.com/
<
They Fly is the official site of Michael Horn, Billy Meier's
authorized American media representative and features Meier's UFO
photos, films, videos . . .
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch.htm
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch2.htm
<
=============================
<
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/20/ufo.conference/index.html
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/11/09/01935.htm
<
=============================
<
< ~~~~~~ GOOD GAWD! ~~~~~~~
<
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c91104fc7b995793
<
============================
<
MAN AS OLD AS COAL
Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com
<
DEATH DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath
<
===============
<
EARTHERS CAN'T SEPARATE TRUTH FROM FICTION
<
THE JFK ASSASSINATION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5770984395481454022&q=jfk+as#K
<
MAN AS OLD AS COAL
http://www.edconrad.com
<
DEATH DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Miracle.jpg
http://edconrad.com/lifeafterdeath
<
THE CORRUPT GOSPELS
http://www.avilabooks.com/Jmmanuel.htm
http://www.tjresearch.info/
<
THE CANCER CURE COVER-UP
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.ed-conrad/msg/90e82dea4a938b35
<
THE FIRST MAN ON THE MOON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_GzwzaJuwY
<
THE BEST GHOST PHOTOS EVER TAKEN
http://paranormal.about.com/od/ghostphotos/ig/Best-Ghost-Photos/
<
========================
<
LAST KNOWN PHOTO OF ED CONRAD
http://www.edconrad.com/pics/Dartboard.jpg
<
==========================
<
Bill Moyers Matt Laurer Chris Matthews Keith Olbermann Rachel Maddow
ABC CBS NBC MSNBC Fox News BBC Michael Moore Bill Maher John Kaminski
Kevin Smith Larry King Oliver Stone Rupert
Murdoch Republican Democrat Brad Guth PBS David Ray Griffin Evolution
Smithsonian Institution alized FedEx Time American Bill Maher
Association for the Advancement of Science President Obama American
Association of Physical Anthropology Dan Rather John Stewart Stephen
Colbert Anderson Cooper Bill O'Reilly New York Times Daily News Post
Newsday Newsweek UPS Washington Post National Enquirer Philadelphia
Inquirer The Nation Former President Dick Cheney Donald Rumsfeld
Georgie W. Bush 911 government
onspiracy Intelligent Design Hubble Wal-Mart Meet the Press David
Gregory Jared Israel eBay Rosie O'Donnell Glenn Beck To Catch a
Predator on American Idol and/or Dancing With the Stars Washington
Post Poor Bernard Madoff Poor Tiger Woods Donald Rumsfeld Adolf Hitler
Sean "Ins" Hannity Josef Stalin Karl Rove
Atilla the Hun Paul Walowitz Idi Amin Rupert Murdoch Jeffrey Dahlmer
Charles Sheen Sean Penn Kevin Smith Wall Street Journal The View
Stephen Hawking U.S. News and World Report Cancer Richard Dawkins 60
Minutes History Channel The View Rosie O'Donnell Oprah Winfrey UFO
Hubble Space Intelligent Design
Roswell Tiger Woods Popular Mechanics Huffington Post David Letterman
Coal David Iain Grieg talk.origins sci.bio.evolution God Richard
Dawkins Michelle Malkin- Matthew Mark Luke and Jack The Grim Reaper
New York Times Post Daily Daily News Newsweek Glenn Beck Washington
Post Wall Street Journal Bill Moyers
Chris Matthews Jesse Ventura Time Warner AT&T CBS Viacom Disney Rupert
Murdoch News Corporation Newsday AAA PBS Newsweek USA Today The Nation
War in Iraq talk.origins David Iain Greig Heaven and Hell PBS BBC
Brian Williams Katie Couric Charles Gibson White House Evolution
Creation Intelligent Design
Extraterrestrials Billy Meier UFOs Hubble News of the World New
England Journal of edicine Bill Gates Yomiuri Shimbun FedEx Shimbun
Bild Germany The Sun London The View 60 Minutes Oprah Winfrey Rosie
O'Donnell Meet the Press Anderson Cooper Science Biology
Pseudoscientists Religion Pope John XXIII AP Cancer Republican Las
Vegas Evolution Democrat
Evolutionists UPI Reuters U.S. News and World Report Fortune 500 OPEC
Bill Maher ExxonMobile Turkey Killer Sarah Palin Pope Benedict VI
Huffington Post U.S.A. Today Christian Science Monitor Voice of
America George Carlin (wherever you are but smiling up at us)
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