More formal (mathematical) proof of prehistorical transatlantic contacts
Jiri Mruzek
make for a nice Boxing day bonus.
http://www.geocities.com/JiriMruzek/compare.htm
Those familiar with my discovery of advanced mathematics in
prehistoric art will be glad to hear that my report on it
now uses a 600 by 600 scan of the copy of the involved
prehistoric engraving from La Marche, France 14,000 years old.
This scan totals 90 MBs, when imported into CAD, and far
surpasses the quality of the previous image used in my geo-
metric analysis. This is important, because exact geometric
designs need to laid over the image to show the mutual harmony,
clearly introduced there by the ancient creator.
Thus, in the above urled article we show how the head of
the girl from the engraving fits a Golden Rectangle.
That is the modicum I can absolutely guarantee you.
I can also promise you much more, though - a fascinating and
convincing case for Prehistoric Science.
Obviously, I now face the major task of reworking my report.
It will be done, but the above link leads to a new part of
the report.
For an overview of my report start from:
http://www.geocities.com/JiriMruzek/index.htm
Have a Prosperous Boxing Day,
Jiri Mruzek
Matt Giwer
--
It is an uncompromising world that will not behave
according to one's beliefs.
-- The Iron Webmaster. 248
tim gueguen
"Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
news:3A4976C2...@ij.net...
> Whacko Alert! All hands man puke stations!
>
mass murder.
tim gueguen 101867
Matt Giwe
Poor analogy. I apply the same rules in all matters. I give special
exceptions to none.
--
Palm Beach Democrats are Gorons.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 340
ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Matt Giwe <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
> tim gueguen wrote:
> >
> > "Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
> > news:3A4976C2...@ij.net...
> > > Whacko Alert! All hands man puke stations!
> > >
> > You calling anyone a whacko Matty is like Pol Pot being upset at
someone for
> > mass murder.
>
> Poor analogy.
No, its an entirely apt one. You're a major league perveyor of
Holocaust denial nonsense, making you a major league kook. For you to
accuse some else of being a kook is just not credible.
tim gueguen 101867
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Dominion
>tim gueguen wrote:
>>
>> "Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
>> news:3A4976C2...@ij.net...
>> > Whacko Alert! All hands man puke stations!
>> >
>> You calling anyone a whacko Matty is like Pol Pot being upset at someone for
>> mass murder.
>
> Poor analogy. I apply the same rules in all matters. I give special
>exceptions to none.
What is it with you Matty? Do you like being spanked from sci.skeptic
every year?
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Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
By doubting we come to the truth
Lisa Gardner
[...]
>Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
>By doubting we come to the truth
Only if your doubting is a part of some kind
of dialectic-type process, IMHO.
Lisa
Matt Giwe
>
> In article <3A4BDA4A...@ij.net>,
> Matt Giwe <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
> > tim gueguen wrote:
> > >
> > > "Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3A4976C2...@ij.net...
> > > > Whacko Alert! All hands man puke stations!
> > > >
> > > You calling anyone a whacko Matty is like Pol Pot being upset at
> someone for
> > > mass murder.
> >
> > Poor analogy.
>
> No, its an entirely apt one. You're a major league perveyor of
> Holocaust denial nonsense, making you a major league kook. For you to
> accuse some else of being a kook is just not credible.
I hold everyone and all parties to the same rules.
In you mere assertion of "nonsense" you have said nothing. Neither you
nor anyone participating here (which is not skeptic and I have no idea
who added it) has even defined "holocaust."
You folks aren't even up to bible thumpers in rational exposition of
what you claim is being denied.
As I said, same rules to everyone. ADR has a few words here and there
and you holocaust believers have a few words here and there for you gas
chamber beliefs. I apply the same rules to him and you.
--
Billie Jeff feels our pain. And if we are women
much more.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 164
Matt Giwe
>
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:26:50 GMT, Matt Giwe <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>
> >tim gueguen wrote:
> >>
> >> "Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3A4976C2...@ij.net...
> >> > Whacko Alert! All hands man puke stations!
> >> >
> >> You calling anyone a whacko Matty is like Pol Pot being upset at someone for
> >> mass murder.
> >
> > Poor analogy. I apply the same rules in all matters. I give special
> >exceptions to none.
>
> What is it with you Matty? Do you like being spanked from sci.skeptic
> every year?
Who was the asshole who added skeptic? They have only excuses for
excepting nazi gas chambers from the same rules they apply to others.
Like Shermer http://www.codoh.com/bt/ The man who flatly declares UFOs
are impossible.
--
Nothing is politically good which is morally wrong.
-- The Iron Webmaster,381
Matt Giwe
> Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
> By doubting we come to the truth
Then doubt nazi gas chambers.
If there are things to sacred to doubt then there can be no truth
regarding them.
Apply IDENTICAL rules to Alien Abductions and Gas Chambers. Make no
exceptions.
--
Even the Boy Scouts are politically incorrect.
What a world, what a world.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 123
Lou Minatti™
SHITHEAD'S back!
--
Watching You Dot Com
http://www.watchingyou.com
Ugly Bob
"Matt Giwe" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message news:3A4D83B...@ij.net...
> Dominion wrote:
>
> > Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
> > By doubting we come to the truth
>
> Then doubt nazi gas chambers.
>
> If there are things to sacred to doubt then there can be no truth
> regarding them.
There is an excellent book on the subject. It's called The Arms of Krupp:
1587-1968, William Manchester. You should give it a read.
-Ugly Bob
Matt Giwer
>
> Matt Giwe wrote:
>
> SHITHEAD'S back!
There is a comment which is much more intelligent than your usual
contribution. But I did not add sci.skeptic as I discovered so long ago
that group was only selectively skeptical.
--
People who work themselves up to be offended over trivia
are fun to offend. Something like pulling wings off of
flies.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 191
Matt Giwer
>
> "Matt Giwe" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message news:3A4D83B...@ij.net...
> > Dominion wrote:
> >
> > > Dubitando ad veritatem venimus.
> > > By doubting we come to the truth
> >
> > Then doubt nazi gas chambers.
> >
> > If there are things to sacred to doubt then there can be no truth
> > regarding them.
>
> There is an excellent book on the subject. It's called The Arms of Krupp:
> 1587-1968, William Manchester. You should give it a read.
>
> -Ugly Bob
I let your handle speak for you.
> > Apply IDENTICAL rules to Alien Abductions and Gas Chambers. Make no
> > exceptions.
> >
> > --
> > Even the Boy Scouts are politically incorrect.
> > What a world, what a world.
> > -- The Iron Webmaster, 123
--
Israel is a foreign nation. Anyone supporting it is like
the Irish supporting the IRA.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 250
Lou Minatti™
>
> "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> >
> > Matt Giwe wrote:
> >
> > SHITHEAD'S back!
>
> There is a comment which
accurately describes Matt Giwer, supreme shithead, avowed racist and
holocaust denier.
Lou Minatti™
<bullshit snipped>
Check it out:
http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
Ugly Bob
"Lou MinattiT" <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3A50B4...@yahoo.com...
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> <bullshit snipped>
>
> Check it out:
> http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
>
> Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
Sterno drinkers, huh? That explains it!
-Ugly Bob
Matt Giwer
>
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > >
> > > Matt Giwe wrote:
> > >
> > > SHITHEAD'S back!
> >
> > There is a comment which
>
> accurately describes Matt Giwer, supreme shithead, avowed racist and
> holocaust denier.
I have no idea who invited you illiterate scumbags from the s.s
newgroup but you are clearly violating the rules of soc.history.ancient
by leading with personal attack.
While I agree that is about all the plateheads in s.s are capable of as
you folks are really true believers unscientific absurdities, I do have
to request you keep your teenage posts in the s.s ghetto where is it
cherished.
--
Only Israelis think murder is trivial as long as it it not Jews.
Palestinian deaths do no count for them as they do not consider
Palestinians to be human.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 277
Matt Giwer
>
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> <bullshit snipped>
>
> Check it out:
> http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
>
> Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
Why would you promote that lie?
--
The internet was designed to survive nuclear war.
What can mere laws do to stop it?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 14
Matt Giwer
>
> "Lou MinattiT" <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3A50B4...@yahoo.com...
> > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > <bullshit snipped>
> >
> > Check it out:
> > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> >
> > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
>
> Sterno drinkers, huh? That explains it!
>
> -Ugly Bob
While your handle has described you, why do you polute s.h.a with your
teenage macho gibberish?
--
The Holocaust Industry by Prof. Norman Finkelstein, #2 in Switzerland,
#5 in Austria, #14 in Germany. That is the english language edition.
Wait for the translations.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 101
Scott Nudds
: Poor analogy. I apply the same rules in all matters. I give special
: exceptions to none.
: --
: Palm Beach Democrats are Gorons.
: -- The Iron Webmaster, 340
"America is now a puppet of the Jew. A race of cowards who attain for
themselves only what they can coerce from others. I will never forgive
them for what they have done to this country." - Matt Giwer - Sept 19,
1995, Fidonet - Law.
Scott Nudds
: While I agree that is about all the plateheads in s.s are capable of as
: you folks are really true believers unscientific absurdities, I do have
: to request you keep your teenage posts in the s.s ghetto where is it
: cherished.
"The Japanese killed prisoners to eat them. They only ate organs like the
spleen and pancreas and threw the rest of the body away." - Matt Giwer -
Sci.Environment 1998
Matt Giwer
This is soc.history.ancient. Should we all complain to your ISP for
your spamming?
--
I'm from Florida. If I wanted a lake I'd dig one.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 53
Matt Giwer
Amazing!!!
You have actually remembered and saved the findings of the Pacific War
Crimes Tribunals finding Japanese guilty of that.
--
Talk about establishment of religion it is by case law a fact
that only the US government can speak for god. Religion has
been established by political persuasion.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 168
Lou Minatti™
>
> "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> >
> > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > <bullshit snipped>
> >
> > Check it out:
> > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> >
> > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
>
> Why would you promote that lie?
Exsqueeze me?
Robert J. Kolker
Matt Giwer wrote:
>
> --
> Only Israelis think murder is trivial as long as it it not Jews.
> Palestinian deaths do no count for them as they do not consider
> Palestinians to be human.
> -- The Iron Webmaster, 277
The only good indian is a dead indian. -- Phillip Sheridan, American General.
Matt Giwer
>
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > >
> > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > <bullshit snipped>
> > >
> > > Check it out:
> > > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> > >
> > > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
> >
> > Why would you promote that lie?
>
> Exsqueeze me?
no
--
Facts about peoples can not be racist.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 331
Matt Giwer
I got mine from the headline of an article in Haaretz.
--
Yes, Virginia, Freud really was a fraud.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 238
Lou Minatti™
>
> "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> >
> > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > >
> > > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Matt Giwe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > SHITHEAD'S back!
> > >
> > > There is a comment which
> >
> > accurately describes Matt Giwer, supreme shithead, avowed racist and
> > holocaust denier.
>
> I have no idea who invited you illiterate scumbags from the s.s
> newgroup but you are clearly violating the rules of soc.history.ancient
> by leading with personal attack.
You cross-posted it, racist kookboy.
Lou Minatti™
>
> "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> >
> > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > >
> > > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > > <bullshit snipped>
> > > >
> > > > Check it out:
> > > > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> > > >
> > > > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
> > >
> > > Why would you promote that lie?
> >
> > Exsqueeze me?
>
> no
Are you no longer proud of being "Artiq", kookboy? You've hidden under
MANY aliases in the past, just to escape people's killfiles.
Matt Giwer
>
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > >
> > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > > > <bullshit snipped>
> > > > >
> > > > > Check it out:
> > > > > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
> > > >
> > > > Why would you promote that lie?
> > >
> > > Exsqueeze me?
> >
> > no
>
> Are you no longer proud of being "Artiq", kookboy? You've hidden under
> MANY aliases in the past, just to escape people's killfiles.
Dear Dummy,
You holohugging holowhackos even accused a Jewish housefrau or being
me.
I never claimed to be that Artiq person.
Your paranoia is your business.
--
Goreflash, 79 year old woman picks up returnable bottles
to support her Winnebago.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 179
Matt Giwer
>
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > >
> > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Giwe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > SHITHEAD'S back!
> > > >
> > > > There is a comment which
> > >
> > > accurately describes Matt Giwer, supreme shithead, avowed racist and
> > > holocaust denier.
> >
> > I have no idea who invited you illiterate scumbags from the s.s
> > newgroup but you are clearly violating the rules of soc.history.ancient
> > by leading with personal attack.
>
> You cross-posted it, racist kookboy.
It may satisfy you to lie but I did not.
--
If Palestinian attacks are child sacrifice they
are sacrifices to the Israeli Gods.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 313
Orac
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> > no
>
> Are you no longer proud of being "Artiq", kookboy? You've hidden under
> MANY aliases in the past, just to escape people's killfiles.
Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the past, not just
sci.skeptic. :-)
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"
Lou Minatti™
>
> "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> >
> > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > >
> > > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matt Giwe wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SHITHEAD'S back!
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a comment which
> > > >
> > > > accurately describes Matt Giwer, supreme shithead, avowed racist and
> > > > holocaust denier.
> > >
> > > I have no idea who invited you illiterate scumbags from the s.s
> > > newgroup but you are clearly violating the rules of soc.history.ancient
> > > by leading with personal attack.
> >
> > You cross-posted it, racist kookboy.
>
> It may satisfy you to lie but I did not.
You just did it again.
Dominion
>In article <3A530F...@yahoo.com>, loumi...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Matt Giwer wrote:
>
>> > no
>>
>> Are you no longer proud of being "Artiq", kookboy? You've hidden under
>> MANY aliases in the past, just to escape people's killfiles.
>
>Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the past, not just
>sci.skeptic. :-)
Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy people.
I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
---
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Orac
dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <3A530F...@yahoo.com>, loumi...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >> Matt Giwer wrote:
> >> > no
> >>
> >> Are you no longer proud of being "Artiq", kookboy? You've hidden under
> >> MANY aliases in the past, just to escape people's killfiles.
> >
> >Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the past, not just
> >sci.skeptic. :-)
>
> Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy people.
> I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
Indeed. Matty hasn't shown his face around alt.revisionism for quite some time,
probably because he gets royally spanked every time he does and is forced to
retreat in embarrassment. :-)
Chuck Stewart
<60C45E4F946CD276.56C7423E...@lp.airnews.net
>:
>On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>>Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the
>>past, not just sci.skeptic. :-)
>Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy
>people. I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
Mattzi has only half a brain?
Then am I to understand that he couldn't afford a full one from the
deli?
Still... half a sheep's brain is better than none...
>---
>Dominion
--
Chuck Stewart
"Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?"
Orac
(Chuck Stewart) wrote:
> dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net (Dominion) wrote in
> <60C45E4F946CD276.56C7423E...@lp.airnews.net
> >:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >>Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the
> >>past, not just sci.skeptic. :-)
>
> >Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy
> >people. I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
>
> Mattzi has only half a brain?
>
> Then am I to understand that he couldn't afford a full one from the
> deli?
>
> Still... half a sheep's brain is better than none...
Actually, I think that giving Matty credit for having half a brain is giving him
way more credit than his intellectual capacity deserves!
Dominion
>In article <60C45E4F946CD276.56C7423E...@lp.airnews.net>,
>dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <3A530F...@yahoo.com>, loumi...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Matt Giwer wrote:
>
>> >> > no
>> >>
>> >> Are you no longer proud of being "Artiq", kookboy? You've hidden under
>> >> MANY aliases in the past, just to escape people's killfiles.
>> >
>> >Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the past, not just
>> >sci.skeptic. :-)
>>
>> Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy people.
>> I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
>
>Indeed. Matty hasn't shown his face around alt.revisionism for quite some time,
>probably because he gets royally spanked every time he does and is forced to
>retreat in embarrassment. :-)
Same here in sci.skeptic. It seems to be a yearly thing for him, I
suspect because he can't keep a memory in his head for more time than
that. He wonders in, berates us for not being skeptical of the
holocaust, as if being skeptical means denying evidence. He tries to
compare belief in UFOs with the holocaust, showing vast amounts of
ignorance in how history works, then after everyone has used him as
their sissy boy, he slinks out again, looking as stupid as he did the
year before. It is amazing to me that he tries this same thing year
after year, tho I suppose it should not. Revisionist scumbags have
consistently shown a decided lack of ability to learn.
Last year he was run out after tying to defend David "I must be a
bigot, an English court ruled it so" Irving. Sadly for him I followed
that case with a great deal of interest, actually cheering when I read
the courts ruling on Mr. Irving's failed libel suit against Deborah
Lipstadt. You had to love it, the court slapped Irving so hard I hear
his head is still spinning. I mean, how often can you say that you
have been proven a bigot, a distorter of history, and a holocaust
denier that pals around with Neo-Nazi dickheads BY A COURT OF LAW. It
is to laugh till tears run down your cheek.
I imagine that Matty will post here till the sterno runs out, then
once the haze clears from his brain, he will once again realize that
he has been roundly used. He will then slime away once again wondering
why his manhood just won't WORK anymore. He just don't get that this
is what happens when people stomp on your balls so constantly and
consistently.
Dominion
Stewart) wrote:
>dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net (Dominion) wrote in
><60C45E4F946CD276.56C7423E...@lp.airnews.net
>>:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the
>>>past, not just sci.skeptic. :-)
>
>>Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy
>>people. I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
>
>Mattzi has only half a brain?
>
>Then am I to understand that he couldn't afford a full one from the
>deli?
>
>Still... half a sheep's brain is better than none...
One day Matty was picking his nose and he managed to dig out half his
brain. He put it in an empty can of sterno which he placed on a shelf
in the bathroom, so he could play with it when he took a crap. If you
ask real nice he will show you the amazing "sticking your head up your
own ass" trick. He is the only guy I know that can't even get laid by
a hooker. And these are his GOOD points!
Dominion
>In article <3a547...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com>, zapk...@lemmings.hotmail.com
>(Chuck Stewart) wrote:
>
>> dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net (Dominion) wrote in
>> <60C45E4F946CD276.56C7423E...@lp.airnews.net
>> >:
>>
>> >On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the
>> >>past, not just sci.skeptic. :-)
>>
>> >Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy
>> >people. I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
>>
>> Mattzi has only half a brain?
>>
>> Then am I to understand that he couldn't afford a full one from the
>> deli?
>>
>> Still... half a sheep's brain is better than none...
>
>Actually, I think that giving Matty credit for having half a brain is giving him
>way more credit than his intellectual capacity deserves!
This is only if you assume that the half that is left is a healthy
full half, instead of the twisted, inch long piece of tissue it really
is. Remember...sterno...brain...brain damage...Matty!
Ugly Bob
"Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
news:3A5181C4...@ij.net...
> Ugly Bob wrote:
> >
> > "Lou MinattiT" <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3A50B4...@yahoo.com...
> > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > <bullshit snipped>
> > >
> > > Check it out:
> > > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> > >
> > > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
> >
> > Sterno drinkers, huh? That explains it!
> >
> > -Ugly Bob
>
> While your handle has described you, why do you polute s.h.a with your
> teenage macho gibberish?
>
What gibberish would that be?
-Ugly Bob
Ugly Bob
"Dominion" <dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net> wrote in message
news:6AD9C95952A31F4C.A44D455B...@lp.airnews.net...
> On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:01:04 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <3a547...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com>,
zapk...@lemmings.hotmail.com
> >(Chuck Stewart) wrote:
> >
> >> dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net (Dominion) wrote in
> >> <60C45E4F946CD276.56C7423E...@lp.airnews.net
> >> >:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>Indeed, and he has annoyed people in many newsgroups in the
> >> >>past, not just sci.skeptic. :-)
> >>
> >> >Oh I imagine that anywhere Matty posts he would tend to annoy
> >> >people. I have found that people with half a brain usually do!
> >>
> >> Mattzi has only half a brain?
> >>
> >> Then am I to understand that he couldn't afford a full one from the
> >> deli?
> >>
> >> Still... half a sheep's brain is better than none...
> >
> >Actually, I think that giving Matty credit for having half a brain is
giving him
> >way more credit than his intellectual capacity deserves!
>
> This is only if you assume that the half that is left is a healthy
> full half, instead of the twisted, inch long piece of tissue it really
> is. Remember...sterno...brain...brain damage...Matty!
That sounds about right, considering his previous ramblings.
What, if anything, is he out to prove? I can't make any sense
out of his babbling.
-Ugly Bob
Ugly Bob
And he started the thread that way. Not only an idiot, but
a liar to boot.
-Ugly Bob
Matt Giwer
>
> "Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
> news:3A5181C4...@ij.net...
> > Ugly Bob wrote:
> > >
> > > "Lou MinattiT" <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3A50B4...@yahoo.com...
> > > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > > <bullshit snipped>
> > > >
> > > > Check it out:
> > > > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> > > >
> > > > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
> > >
> > > Sterno drinkers, huh? That explains it!
> > >
> > > -Ugly Bob
> >
> > While your handle has described you, why do you polute s.h.a with your
> > teenage macho gibberish?
> >
>
> What gibberish would that be?
>
> -Ugly Bob
Your posts, dummy.
--
No one should by deprived of the right to vote
by accident of being a Goron.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 343
Lou Minatti™
>
> Ugly Bob wrote:
> >
> > "Matt Giwer" <jul...@ij.net> wrote in message
> > news:3A5181C4...@ij.net...
> > > Ugly Bob wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Lou MinattiT" <loumi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3A50B4...@yahoo.com...
> > > > > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > > > > <bullshit snipped>
> > > > >
> > > > > Check it out:
> > > > > http://internettrash.com/users/satireworld/tartindex.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Artiq is one of Giwer's many aliases.
> > > >
> > > > Sterno drinkers, huh? That explains it!
> > > >
> > > > -Ugly Bob
> > >
> > > While your handle has described you, why do you polute s.h.a with your
> > > teenage macho gibberish?
> > >
> >
> > What gibberish would that be?
> >
> > -Ugly Bob
>
> Your posts, dummy.
But precisely what in his posts is gibberish, felch-face?
Dominion
wrote:
>"Dominion" <dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net> wrote in message
>news:6AD9C95952A31F4C.A44D455B...@lp.airnews.net...
>> This is only if you assume that the half that is left is a healthy
>> full half, instead of the twisted, inch long piece of tissue it really
>> is. Remember...sterno...brain...brain damage...Matty!
>
> That sounds about right, considering his previous ramblings.
>What, if anything, is he out to prove? I can't make any sense
>out of his babbling.
Not to worry, no one else can either.
Matty is a neo-Nazi, holocaust denier. About once a year he makes an
appearence in sci.skeptic berating us all for not being skeptical of
the holocaust, which he likes to compare to belief in U.F.O.s for some
reason. Once the ass kicking starts, he will devolve into a series of
sock puppets of which he can't keep track of. He soon starts fighting
with his own puppets! (I'm not joking. One of the more humorous things
on usenet is seeing Matty calling himself an asshole). Once enough
people are laughing he will slink back to alt.revisionism where the
regulars will pat him on the head, kick him in the ass, and remind him
it is not good to play in the real world.
Orac
dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:01:04 -0800, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Dominion" <dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net> wrote in message
> >news:6AD9C95952A31F4C.A44D455B...@lp.airnews.net...
>
> >> This is only if you assume that the half that is left is a healthy
> >> full half, instead of the twisted, inch long piece of tissue it really
> >> is. Remember...sterno...brain...brain damage...Matty!
> >
> > That sounds about right, considering his previous ramblings.
> >What, if anything, is he out to prove? I can't make any sense
> >out of his babbling.
>
> Not to worry, no one else can either.
>
> Matty is a neo-Nazi, holocaust denier. About once a year he makes an
> appearence in sci.skeptic berating us all for not being skeptical of
> the holocaust, which he likes to compare to belief in U.F.O.s for some
> reason. Once the ass kicking starts, he will devolve into a series of
> sock puppets of which he can't keep track of. He soon starts fighting
> with his own puppets! (I'm not joking. One of the more humorous things
> on usenet is seeing Matty calling himself an asshole). Once enough
> people are laughing he will slink back to alt.revisionism where the
> regulars will pat him on the head, kick him in the ass, and remind him
> it is not good to play in the real world.
Actually, as a regular in alt.revisionism, I can tell you that Matty has rarely
been seen in that newsgroup during the past year. In fact, I can only remember
seeing him once there in the last few months. I think he's been so thoroughly
spanked there so many times that it finally sank into his Sterno-soaked brain
that it's not smart to post his crap in newsgroups where there are a lot of
people who are quite knowledgeable about Holocaust history.
I suspect he retreats to the safety of the white power ranger newsgroups or
moderated discussion boards on Holocaust denial websites such as the CODOH and
IHR websites after having been spanked on sci.skeptic or alt.revisionism.
Chuck Stewart
<3a583020$1...@news.nwlink.com>:
> That sounds about right, considering his previous ramblings.
>What, if anything, is he out to prove?
Matt is attemptong to prove that racism is good, that Hitler was an
OK guy, that the Holocaust didn't happen, and that the Evil Jewish
Conspiracy had it coming to them anyway.
Oh yeah, Matt is also trying to prove that he's not a neo-nutzi...
>I can't make any sense out of his babbling.
If you want to take the plunge the sterno can be found in the
Sporting Goods department.
> -Ugly Bob
Matt Giwer
A phrase you picked up in the schoolyard?
Care to address the total mythological nature of Abraham, Moses,
Solomon (and temple), David and most all the rest while you are posting
to a newsgroup which knows the facts? All the present day military
repression in the mideast because of things that are well known to be
myths.
Of course if you want to make a fool of yourself by professing belief
in any of the above do not let me discourage you.
--
Even paranoids have enemies.
Only paranoids create them.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 119
Matt Giwer
>
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:01:04 -0800, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Dominion" <dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net> wrote in message
> >news:6AD9C95952A31F4C.A44D455B...@lp.airnews.net...
>
> >> This is only if you assume that the half that is left is a healthy
> >> full half, instead of the twisted, inch long piece of tissue it really
> >> is. Remember...sterno...brain...brain damage...Matty!
> >
> > That sounds about right, considering his previous ramblings.
> >What, if anything, is he out to prove? I can't make any sense
> >out of his babbling.
>
> Not to worry, no one else can either.
>
> Matty is a neo-Nazi, holocaust denier. About once a year he makes an
> appearence in sci.skeptic berating us all for not being skeptical of
> the holocaust, which he likes to compare to belief in U.F.O.s for some
> reason.
UFO abductions.
You are the folks who believe testimony without physical evidence. The
same issue is raised here in soc.history.ancient where rational people
dismiss dismiss the OT prior to Exra for lack of physical evidence. I
guess you folks believe it though. Totally irrational of you but then it
is another aspect of your religion.
> Once the ass kicking starts, he will devolve into a series of
> sock puppets of which he can't keep track of. He soon starts fighting
> with his own puppets! (I'm not joking. One of the more humorous things
> on usenet is seeing Matty calling himself an asshole). Once enough
> people are laughing he will slink back to alt.revisionism where the
> regulars will pat him on the head, kick him in the ass, and remind him
> it is not good to play in the real world.
http://www.codoh.com/bt/ to see Schermer get his ass kicked as a true
believer. Read him declare UFO abductions are impossible UFOs are
impossible.
Yes, you folks are true believers when your religion is involved.
--
Rocks were non-lethal at Kent State. The are lethal in the
occupied territories. Who increased the lethality of rocks
and what is the patent number?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 258
Lou Minatti™
"For example there is the in"famous" picture of people at Birkenau
labeled Jews
being selected. Any asshole can create that caption. Of course there
is no
indication where they are, who they are or what their religion is but
Jews will
pay good money for a creative caption as long as it supports their
beliefs."
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/1996/adam-smith-persecution
Matt Giwer
>
> Giwer on the Holocaust:
> "For example there is the in"famous" picture of people at Birkenau
> labeled Jews
> being selected. Any asshole can create that caption. Of course there
> is no
> indication where they are, who they are or what their religion is but
> Jews will
> pay good money for a creative caption as long as it supports their
> beliefs."
People who believe captions are the same who buy autographed pictures
of Moses and other mythical people.
--
Remember, if you don't smoke you will live forever.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 234
Matt Giwer
Since you are posting to soc.history.ancient and have remained silent I
presume you know and agree there was never any jewish temple on what the
jewish fundies call the Temple Mount.
I also presume you know and agree there is no evidence Solomon existed
much less that he built a temple.
As everyone knows in s.h.a, the entire Moses - Egypt thing is a very
poorly created fable as is Abraham.
--
Always eat anything that does not eat you first.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 428
Ugly Bob
> "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> >
> > Giwer on the Holocaust:
> > "For example there is the in"famous" picture of people at Birkenau
> > labeled Jews
> > being selected. Any asshole can create that caption. Of course there
> > is no
> > indication where they are, who they are or what their religion is but
> > Jews will
> > pay good money for a creative caption as long as it supports their
> > beliefs."
>
> People who believe captions are the same who buy autographed pictures
> of Moses and other mythical people.
Lou asked:
But precisely what in his posts is gibberish, felch-face?
Matt Giwer answered:
-Ugly Bob
Orac
> Since you are posting to soc.history.ancient and have remained silent I
> presume you know and agree there was never any jewish temple on what the
> jewish fundies call the Temple Mount.
You can presume no such thing. Actually, I happened to contribute to a
crossposted thread from sci.skeptic. I'm not a regular in soc.history.ancient
amd have never checked in alt.alien.visitors (although to me such a newsgroup
would appear to be a perfect fit for you). For having been around Usenet a
while, your understanding of Usenet basics appears rather lacking.
>
> I also presume you know and agree there is no evidence Solomon existed
> much less that he built a temple.
Again, you can presume no such thing.
> As everyone knows in s.h.a, the entire Moses - Egypt thing is a very
> poorly created fable as is Abraham.
What's wrong, Matt, bad Sterno?
Dominion
>I suspect he retreats to the safety of the white power ranger newsgroups or
>moderated discussion boards on Holocaust denial websites such as the CODOH and
>IHR websites after having been spanked on sci.skeptic or alt.revisionism.
Heh, it is nice to be among friends. Especially friends that engage in
the same Sterno habits. A thread of commonality. ;)
---
Dominion
The Rabbitphile Cookbook
http://freeweb.pdq.net/dominion
Answering the age old question:
What is the best way to serve rabbit?
Dominion
>Dominion wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:01:04 -0800, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Dominion" <dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net> wrote in message
>> >news:6AD9C95952A31F4C.A44D455B...@lp.airnews.net...
>>
>> >> This is only if you assume that the half that is left is a healthy
>> >> full half, instead of the twisted, inch long piece of tissue it really
>> >> is. Remember...sterno...brain...brain damage...Matty!
>> >
>> > That sounds about right, considering his previous ramblings.
>> >What, if anything, is he out to prove? I can't make any sense
>> >out of his babbling.
>>
>> Not to worry, no one else can either.
>>
>> Matty is a neo-Nazi, holocaust denier. About once a year he makes an
>> appearence in sci.skeptic berating us all for not being skeptical of
>> the holocaust, which he likes to compare to belief in U.F.O.s for some
>> reason.
>
> UFO abductions.
>
> You are the folks who believe testimony without physical evidence. The
>same issue is raised here in soc.history.ancient where rational people
>dismiss dismiss the OT prior to Exra for lack of physical evidence. I
>guess you folks believe it though. Totally irrational of you but then it
>is another aspect of your religion.
The dangers of soaking your brain in Sterno Matty. I post from
sci.skeptic, I am hardly a person to take "testimony without physical
evidence". Nor do I much care what people in soc.history.ancient know
or not know, tho I do feel sympathy that they have to put up with your
xposting.
Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
the bottom line Matty.
>> Once the ass kicking starts, he will devolve into a series of
>> sock puppets of which he can't keep track of. He soon starts fighting
>> with his own puppets! (I'm not joking. One of the more humorous things
>> on usenet is seeing Matty calling himself an asshole). Once enough
>> people are laughing he will slink back to alt.revisionism where the
>> regulars will pat him on the head, kick him in the ass, and remind him
>> it is not good to play in the real world.
>
>http://www.codoh.com/bt/ to see Schermer get his ass kicked as a true
>believer. Read him declare UFO abductions are impossible UFOs are
>impossible.
>
> Yes, you folks are true believers when your religion is involved.
http://www.codoh.com/bt/shermer/mg-ms1.htm
Just to see the quality of Matty's debating style. Personally I busted
a gut.
Matt Giwer
>
> In article <3A592A74...@ij.net>, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>
> > Since you are posting to soc.history.ancient and have remained silent I
> > presume you know and agree there was never any jewish temple on what the
> > jewish fundies call the Temple Mount.
>
> You can presume no such thing.
They are you a fundie true believer. I knew it but it is good to see
you make it public.
> Actually, I happened to contribute to a
> crossposted thread from sci.skeptic. I'm not a regular in soc.history.ancient
> amd have never checked in alt.alien.visitors (although to me such a newsgroup
> would appear to be a perfect fit for you). For having been around Usenet a
> while, your understanding of Usenet basics appears rather lacking.
> > I also presume you know and agree there is no evidence Solomon existed
> > much less that he built a temple.
>
> Again, you can presume no such thing.
Again, fundamentalist believer in myth and gibberish are you.
> > As everyone knows in s.h.a, the entire Moses - Egypt thing is a very
> > poorly created fable as is Abraham.
>
> What's wrong, Matt, bad Sterno?
Those are absolute facts, beliver boy.
If you would spend some time in soc.history.ancient you would learn
much of what you believe is not different from creationism.
You can't claim to know much without know all the foundations of
Christianity including all of Judaism are fairy tales for children.
--
Live fast, love well, and have a glorious website.
<a href="http://www.giwersworld.org/mgiwer/">
The rest of Matt Giwer's World</a>
-- The Iron Webmaster, 61
Matt Giwer
Then I suggest you search deja.com and discover the entire sci.skeptic
support of gas chambers is based upon believing eyewitness testimony in
the absense of physical evidence.
> Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
> the bottom line Matty.
It is exactly the same with UFO abductions which ALSO exist solely upon
eyewitness testimony absent physical evidence.
> >> Once the ass kicking starts, he will devolve into a series of
> >> sock puppets of which he can't keep track of. He soon starts fighting
> >> with his own puppets! (I'm not joking. One of the more humorous things
> >> on usenet is seeing Matty calling himself an asshole). Once enough
> >> people are laughing he will slink back to alt.revisionism where the
> >> regulars will pat him on the head, kick him in the ass, and remind him
> >> it is not good to play in the real world.
> >
> >http://www.codoh.com/bt/ to see Schermer get his ass kicked as a true
> >believer. Read him declare UFO abductions are impossible UFOs are
> >impossible.
> >
> > Yes, you folks are true believers when your religion is involved.
>
> http://www.codoh.com/bt/shermer/mg-ms1.htm
>
> Just to see the quality of Matty's debating style. Personally I busted
> a gut.
You are clearly not very bright.
--
For recycling, should trash be separated by color,
religion, sexual orientation or ethnic origin?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 25
Matt Giwer
>
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:36:02 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >I suspect he retreats to the safety of the white power ranger newsgroups or
> >moderated discussion boards on Holocaust denial websites such as the CODOH and
> >IHR websites after having been spanked on sci.skeptic or alt.revisionism.
>
> Heh, it is nice to be among friends. Especially friends that engage in
> the same Sterno habits. A thread of commonality. ;)
And are you also one of those who believes there really was an Abraham
and a Moses and a Solomon and his temple? Such a believer.
--
Nothing is politically good which is morally wrong.
-- The Iron Webmaster,381
tim gueguen
> Orac wrote:
> >
> > In article <3A592A74...@ij.net>, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Since you are posting to soc.history.ancient and have remained
silent I
> > > presume you know and agree there was never any jewish temple on what
the
> > > jewish fundies call the Temple Mount.
> >
> > You can presume no such thing.
>
> They are you a fundie true believer. I knew it but it is good to see
> you make it public.
By your standards Matty 99% of the world fits that category.
tim gueguen 101867
tim gueguen
You can wave your hands all you want but it won't make the physical
evidence, records etc disappear.
> >
> > Just to see the quality of Matty's debating style. Personally I busted
> > a gut.
>
> You are clearly not very bright.
>
An amusing statement coming from someone who believes a massive conspiracy
by the EVIIIIIIIlL JOOOOOOS has duped everyone into believing that the
Nazis murdered millions, despite the utter impossibility of such a
conspiracy being workable.
tim gueguen 101867
Dominion
>Dominion wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:36:02 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I suspect he retreats to the safety of the white power ranger newsgroups or
>> >moderated discussion boards on Holocaust denial websites such as the CODOH and
>> >IHR websites after having been spanked on sci.skeptic or alt.revisionism.
>>
>> Heh, it is nice to be among friends. Especially friends that engage in
>> the same Sterno habits. A thread of commonality. ;)
>
> And are you also one of those who believes there really was an Abraham
>and a Moses and a Solomon and his temple? Such a believer.
What I do believe Matty, is that you have never said no to a drink in
your life. That and stupid lil' neo-Nazi jew hating scum like you
should be made fun of as often as possible.
Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
Robert J. Kolker
Dominion wrote:
>
> Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
If that funny little loudmouth Feldwebel with the
mustache had been laughed at, there never
would have been a second world war.
Bob Kolker
Dominion
Matty forgets that the position that there were "no gas chambers" have
had it's day in court. It lost Matty. There is more than enough
evidence aside from eyewitness testimony to conclude that gas chambers
were indeed one of the methods of extermination of jews in Nazi
Germany. That you don't want to accept that is your problem Matty, not
mine.
>> Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
>> the bottom line Matty.
>
> It is exactly the same with UFO abductions which ALSO exist solely upon
>eyewitness testimony absent physical evidence.
Matty show he don't know the difference between historical evidence
and physical evidence. If we held every historical event to the "Matty
Sterno on the Brain" theory of historical evidence, then we could
dispute the fact that George Washington was president of the US.
>> >> Once the ass kicking starts, he will devolve into a series of
>> >> sock puppets of which he can't keep track of. He soon starts fighting
>> >> with his own puppets! (I'm not joking. One of the more humorous things
>> >> on usenet is seeing Matty calling himself an asshole). Once enough
>> >> people are laughing he will slink back to alt.revisionism where the
>> >> regulars will pat him on the head, kick him in the ass, and remind him
>> >> it is not good to play in the real world.
>> >
>> >http://www.codoh.com/bt/ to see Schermer get his ass kicked as a true
>> >believer. Read him declare UFO abductions are impossible UFOs are
>> >impossible.
>> >
>> > Yes, you folks are true believers when your religion is involved.
>>
>> http://www.codoh.com/bt/shermer/mg-ms1.htm
>>
>> Just to see the quality of Matty's debating style. Personally I busted
>> a gut.
>
> You are clearly not very bright.
Hey Matty, it was YOUR posting. It was not my fault that you could not
debate with Shermer.
Orac
> Orac wrote:
> >
> > In article <3A592A74...@ij.net>, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Since you are posting to soc.history.ancient and have remained
> > > silent I
> > > presume you know and agree there was never any jewish temple on what the
> > > jewish fundies call the Temple Mount.
> >
> > You can presume no such thing.
>
> They are you a fundie true believer. I knew it but it is good to see you
> make it public.
LOL! A "fundie true believer" in what? I never said whether I agreed with you or
not. I merely said that you may not PRESUME that I agree with you. This is
especially true, since I've never posted on this particular topic before, as far
as I can recall. You jump to conclusions.
> > Actually, I happened to contribute to a crossposted thread from
> > sci.skeptic. I'm not a regular in soc.history.ancient amd have never
> > checked in alt.alien.visitors (although to me such a newsgroup would appear
> > to be a perfect fit for you). For having been around Usenet a while, your
> > understanding of Usenet basics appears rather lacking.
>
>
>
> > > I also presume you know and agree there is no evidence Solomon
> > > existed
> > > much less that he built a temple.
> >
> > Again, you can presume no such thing.
>
> Again, fundamentalist believer in myth and gibberish are you.
Again, I ask: "fundamentalist believe in WHAT myth and gibberish?
> > > As everyone knows in s.h.a, the entire Moses - Egypt thing is a
> > > very
> > > poorly created fable as is Abraham.
> >
> > What's wrong, Matt, bad Sterno?
>
> Those are absolute facts, beliver boy.
Hmmm. What's a "beliver" boy?
> If you would spend some time in soc.history.ancient you would learn
> much of what you believe is not different from creationism.
Again, you know little of what I believe. Certainly you don't know anything
based on my limited recent postings.
> You can't claim to know much without know all the foundations of
> Christianity including all of Judaism are fairy tales for children.
Yep, it looks like I was right. Matty got some bad Sterno.
Orac
<ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca> wrote:
Too true....
Orac
dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
>Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
The sad thing is, Matty doesn't appear to understand that...
Orac
wrote:
Well, to be accurate, he WAS laughed at for a long time. In the 1920's he was
viewed by most Germans as the strange leader of a wacko fringe movement. It was
in the depths of the Great Depression in couple of years leading up to Hitler's
ascension that people were so desperate for change that even Hitler started to
look good.
But all of that has little to do with Matty, as it's unlikely that he will ever
do anything to make people stop laughing at him and take him seriously.
Orac
>Dominion wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 02:04:57 GMT, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>> > You are the folks who believe testimony without physical evidence.
>> > The
>> >same issue is raised here in soc.history.ancient where rational people
>> >dismiss dismiss the OT prior to Exra for lack of physical evidence. I
>> >guess you folks believe it though. Totally irrational of you but then it
>> >is another aspect of your religion.
>>
>> The dangers of soaking your brain in Sterno Matty. I post from
>> sci.skeptic, I am hardly a person to take "testimony without physical
>> evidence". Nor do I much care what people in soc.history.ancient know
>> or not know, tho I do feel sympathy that they have to put up with your
>> xposting.
>
> Then I suggest you search deja.com and discover the entire sci.skeptic
>support of gas chambers is based upon believing eyewitness testimony in
>the absense of physical evidence.
Oh, please. In addition to the eyewitness testimony of soldiers who operated the
gas chambers, Jewish prisoners who went in and got the bodies, etc., there's
plenty of physical evidence for gas chambers, including remains of gas chambers,
plans for gas chambers, discussions of gas chambers in various Nazi documents,
records of delivery of huge quantities of Zyklon-B gas to the death camps (far
more than would be necessary if it was used for fumigation), and photos of gas
chambers, not to mention the same for the crematoria used to burn the bodies of
people killed in the gas chambers. It's just that you, in your Holocaust-denying
way, refuse to acknowledge it.
>> Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
>> the bottom line Matty.
>
> It is exactly the same with UFO abductions which ALSO exist solely upon
>eyewitness testimony absent physical evidence.
No, it is not. (See above.)
[Snip]
Orac
dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 06:28:18 GMT, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>
>>Dominion wrote:
>>> The dangers of soaking your brain in Sterno Matty. I post from
>>> sci.skeptic, I am hardly a person to take "testimony without physical
>>> evidence". Nor do I much care what people in soc.history.ancient know
>>> or not know, tho I do feel sympathy that they have to put up with your
>>> xposting.
>>
>> Then I suggest you search deja.com and discover the entire sci.skeptic
>>support of gas chambers is based upon believing eyewitness testimony in
>>the absense of physical evidence.
>
>Matty forgets that the position that there were "no gas chambers" have
>had it's day in court. It lost Matty. There is more than enough
>evidence aside from eyewitness testimony to conclude that gas chambers
>were indeed one of the methods of extermination of jews in Nazi
>Germany. That you don't want to accept that is your problem Matty, not
>mine.
Indeed. Now look for Matty to resurrect the old denier straw man claim that "six
million" Jews were killed in gas chambers. HINT: No one ever said all six
million Jews were killed in gas chambers. Gas chambers were but one means the
Nazis used to kill Jews (the most famous means, certainly, but still just one of
many). The Einsatzgruppen killed around a million Jews using mainly bullets.
>>> Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
>>> the bottom line Matty.
>>
>> It is exactly the same with UFO abductions which ALSO exist solely upon
>>eyewitness testimony absent physical evidence.
>
>Matty show he don't know the difference between historical evidence
>and physical evidence. If we held every historical event to the "Matty
>Sterno on the Brain" theory of historical evidence, then we could
>dispute the fact that George Washington was president of the US.
Very true. I trust you've seen the Mad Revisionist's website, in which he uses
"revisionist" methodology to prove that the moon does not exist, among other
things. :-)
Lou Minatti™
> > Those are absolute facts, beliver boy.
>
> Hmmm. What's a "beliver" boy?
Hehe... look at who you're asking!
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http://www.watchingyou.com
Matt Giwer
It is good to have high standards and infinitely preferable to having
no standards at all. Standards apply to all matters equally without
exceptions.
You fake skeptics are all exceptions and no standards.
--
Just who the hell do you you think you are just because you
claim your ancestors were dead before you were born?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 170
Robert J. Kolker
Matt Giwer wrote: It is good to have high standards and infinitely
preferable to having
> no standards at all. Standards apply to all matters equally without
> exceptions.
If you really believed that, you would not single out Jews for
opprobrium. You are a hypocrite.
Bob Kolker
Matt Giwer
>
> In article <3A5AAE77...@ij.net>, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>
> > Orac wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3A592A74...@ij.net>, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Since you are posting to soc.history.ancient and have remained
> > > > silent I
> > > > presume you know and agree there was never any jewish temple on what the
> > > > jewish fundies call the Temple Mount.
> > >
> > > You can presume no such thing.
> >
> > They are you a fundie true believer. I knew it but it is good to see you
> > make it public.
>
> LOL! A "fundie true believer" in what? I never said whether I agreed with you or
> not. I merely said that you may not PRESUME that I agree with you. This is
> especially true, since I've never posted on this particular topic before, as far
> as I can recall. You jump to conclusions.
So here is your opportunity to post openly that Solomon, Moses, Abram
and the Temple of the first do not pass the first test of a true
skeptic. Why not take the opportunity to ridicule Judaism in the same
manner sci.skeptic ridicules Christianity? After all, they are both
idiot religions suitable only for redneck book thumpers. There is no
difference between them save Judaism recounts mass murder and genocide
and the god of it advocates genocide.
> > > Actually, I happened to contribute to a crossposted thread from
> > > sci.skeptic. I'm not a regular in soc.history.ancient amd have never
> > > checked in alt.alien.visitors (although to me such a newsgroup would appear
> > > to be a perfect fit for you). For having been around Usenet a while, your
> > > understanding of Usenet basics appears rather lacking.
> > > > I also presume you know and agree there is no evidence Solomon
> > > > existed
> > > > much less that he built a temple.
> > >
> > > Again, you can presume no such thing.
> >
> > Again, fundamentalist believer in myth and gibberish are you.
>
> Again, I ask: "fundamentalist believe in WHAT myth and gibberish?
Which myth? I thought I spelled that out. Abraham, Moses, Solomon and
of course the mythical Temple of Solomon which is presently justifying
Israelies to murder. You do know only redneck fundies believe in those
four items do you not?
> > > > As everyone knows in s.h.a, the entire Moses - Egypt thing is a
> > > > very
> > > > poorly created fable as is Abraham.
> > >
> > > What's wrong, Matt, bad Sterno?
> >
> > Those are absolute facts, beliver boy.
>
> Hmmm. What's a "beliver" boy?
You redneck fundie believer in the myths of Judaism.
Or perhaps it is coward boy who is afraid to ridicule such
superstitious beliefs.
> > If you would spend some time in soc.history.ancient you would learn
> > much of what you believe is not different from creationism.
>
> Again, you know little of what I believe. Certainly you don't know anything
> based on my limited recent postings.
So ridicule the fundamental ideas of Judaism and demonstrate it.
> > You can't claim to know much without know all the foundations of
> > Christianity including all of Judaism are fairy tales for children.
>
> Yep, it looks like I was right. Matty got some bad Sterno.
You know there is no reason for any rational person to believe a
Solomon ever existed or that there was ever a "temple" on the Israeli
myth of "Temple Mount." So why not say so?
What are you afraid of? No rational person believes such idiocies.
--
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available
for public inspection.</a> It is not open source. Two years ago ABC
published correct election results on the web a day in advance.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 213
Matt Giwer
>
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 06:25:03 GMT, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>
> >Dominion wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:36:02 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I suspect he retreats to the safety of the white power ranger newsgroups or
> >> >moderated discussion boards on Holocaust denial websites such as the CODOH and
> >> >IHR websites after having been spanked on sci.skeptic or alt.revisionism.
> >>
> >> Heh, it is nice to be among friends. Especially friends that engage in
> >> the same Sterno habits. A thread of commonality. ;)
> >
> > And are you also one of those who believes there really was an Abraham
> >and a Moses and a Solomon and his temple? Such a believer.
>
> What I do believe Matty, is that you have never said no to a drink in
> your life. That and stupid lil' neo-Nazi jew hating scum like you
> should be made fun of as often as possible.
>
> Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
Spoken like a true anti-intellectual redneck. The stupidest people in
the world are those using the myth of Solomon to justify murder.
The people to hate are living murderers particularly those murdering
solely because they are rednecked fundies. At the moment there are
several million rednecked murderers clustered in Israel. Live with it.
--
Totalitarian governments do largely the same things as
free governments save for the wrong reasons.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 227
Matt Giwer
My standards are much higher than yours. When there is no physical
evidence testimonly is garbage. It is the same with every rational
person and with real skeptics.
You folks are not bright enough to be skeptics.
> > > Just to see the quality of Matty's debating style. Personally I busted
> > > a gut.
> >
> > You are clearly not very bright.
> >
> An amusing statement coming from someone who believes a massive conspiracy
> by the EVIIIIIIIlL JOOOOOOS has duped everyone into believing that the
> Nazis murdered millions, despite the utter impossibility of such a
> conspiracy being workable.
As I have said many times, it was the IMT which created the myth. Jews
are clearly not bright enough nor organized enough to have done it on
their own.
--
Which is worse? Not believing in Jesus or not
believing in gas chambers?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 216
Matt Giwer
If there had never been a Theodor Herzl the Middle East would have
continued its 400 years of peace. It is best that sputum had never been
born.
--
If I am the One, who is the Two?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 88
Matt Giwer
If in the future I should ever have a need to demonstrate you are an
idiot I need only refer to your assertion that court establish fact.
When you get out of High School and into the real world you will learn
that the hard way.
> There is more than enough
> evidence aside from eyewitness testimony to conclude that gas chambers
> were indeed one of the methods of extermination of jews in Nazi
> Germany. That you don't want to accept that is your problem Matty, not
> mine.
Right. Which court was that which did not require physical evidence?
Sounds like a communist court to me. It was certainly not a court of
justice.
> >> Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
> >> the bottom line Matty.
> >
> > It is exactly the same with UFO abductions which ALSO exist solely upon
> >eyewitness testimony absent physical evidence.
>
> Matty show he don't know the difference between historical evidence
> and physical evidence. If we held every historical event to the "Matty
> Sterno on the Brain" theory of historical evidence, then we could
> dispute the fact that George Washington was president of the US.
We have physical evidence of GW as a president. We only have stories
about gas chambers.
But as I am in soc.history.ancient your mythology has to stand the same
tests as the mythology of Moses, Soloman and Abraham. And you gas
chamber beliefs fail as miserably as the rest of the mythology.
Just submit to the same rules as all the rest in s.h.a to distinguish
fact from fiction and your gas chamber beliefs are instantly exposed as
fiction.
And in s.h.a the "temple mount" BS is well known as justifying murder
by the redneck fundies in Israel.
> >> >> Once the ass kicking starts, he will devolve into a series of
> >> >> sock puppets of which he can't keep track of. He soon starts fighting
> >> >> with his own puppets! (I'm not joking. One of the more humorous things
> >> >> on usenet is seeing Matty calling himself an asshole). Once enough
> >> >> people are laughing he will slink back to alt.revisionism where the
> >> >> regulars will pat him on the head, kick him in the ass, and remind him
> >> >> it is not good to play in the real world.
> >> >
> >> >http://www.codoh.com/bt/ to see Schermer get his ass kicked as a true
> >> >believer. Read him declare UFO abductions are impossible UFOs are
> >> >impossible.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, you folks are true believers when your religion is involved.
> >>
> >> http://www.codoh.com/bt/shermer/mg-ms1.htm
> >>
> >> Just to see the quality of Matty's debating style. Personally I busted
> >> a gut.
> >
> > You are clearly not very bright.
>
> Hey Matty, it was YOUR posting. It was not my fault that you could not
> debate with Shermer.
Shermer is the one who believes by exception, not me.
--
If you see a Mossad agent, shoot to kill. They are murderers.
You have no way to know you are not the target.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 388
Matt Giwer
> Indeed. Now look for Matty to resurrect the old denier straw man claim that "six
> million" Jews were killed in gas chambers. HINT: No one ever said all six
> million Jews were killed in gas chambers. Gas chambers were but one means the
> Nazis used to kill Jews (the most famous means, certainly, but still just one of
> many). The Einsatzgruppen killed around a million Jews using mainly bullets.
One of my sigs says to the effect, no holohugger is bright enough to
recite the statement to which he replies.
Now I have said many times and in many ways the obvious prima facia
requirement. That is worldwide pre and post war official census figures
of Jewish populations so that subtraction can be done to see how many
are missing. Without that, none are missing.
No one I know has ever accused a holohugger of being intelligent. You
are not on the road to changing that.
So far you have done a great job in s.h.a of imitating ADR.
--
Relax! It is only life. It will be over soon enough.
No need to take such a transient thing seriously.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 262
Matt Giwer
>
> In article <3A5AAF82...@ij.net>, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>
> >Dominion wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 02:04:57 GMT, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>
> >> > You are the folks who believe testimony without physical evidence.
> >> > The
> >> >same issue is raised here in soc.history.ancient where rational people
> >> >dismiss dismiss the OT prior to Exra for lack of physical evidence. I
> >> >guess you folks believe it though. Totally irrational of you but then it
> >> >is another aspect of your religion.
> >>
> >> The dangers of soaking your brain in Sterno Matty. I post from
> >> sci.skeptic, I am hardly a person to take "testimony without physical
> >> evidence". Nor do I much care what people in soc.history.ancient know
> >> or not know, tho I do feel sympathy that they have to put up with your
> >> xposting.
> >
> > Then I suggest you search deja.com and discover the entire sci.skeptic
> >support of gas chambers is based upon believing eyewitness testimony in
> >the absense of physical evidence.
> Oh, please. In addition to the eyewitness testimony of soldiers who operated the
> gas chambers, Jewish prisoners who went in and got the bodies, etc.,
You are not very bright are you?
Confessions produced by Communists? Who is so stupid as to believe
confessions produced by Communists? And if you do believe them you must
also believe the confessions of Jews to treason against communist
governments.
The Jewish prisoners? The Sonderkommandos? You mean as in the IMT,
Nuremberg Sonderkommando Adolf Eichmann? The SKs were members of the SS.
And you think they were really Jewish? Give me a break. P.T. Barnum
would have loved you.
> there's
> plenty of physical evidence for gas chambers, including remains of gas chambers,
> plans for gas chambers, discussions of gas chambers in various Nazi documents,
> records of delivery of huge quantities of Zyklon-B gas to the death camps (far
> more than would be necessary if it was used for fumigation), and photos of gas
> chambers, not to mention the same for the crematoria used to burn the bodies of
> people killed in the gas chambers. It's just that you, in your Holocaust-denying
> way, refuse to acknowledge it.
You obviously have never reviewed those claims skeptically as anyone
who claims to be rational must do. You first need to tell me what
convinced you when you rejected all the claims and started from scratch.
If you never did that, you never did anything but see things which
supported your preconceptions.
I have seen what is proferred as what you claim. I seen only the ruins
of buildings, plans for a single morgue and not yet one document
reference to a gas chamber.
You true believing rednecks never get your act together. You cannot at
the same time claim "more than needed for fumigation" and "taking so
little to kill humans as opposed to lice" while still appearing
rational. There were damned near a square mile of nothing but wall to
wall barracks to fumigate in the Auschwitz complex. You can not have it
both ways.
But BUT _BUT_ you must also have it on record. And all we had for 45
were communist records and communists proved everyone was guilty and
produced confessions, Cardinal Minzenty comes to mind.
You really are much too gullible to be considered a skeptic.
> >> Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
> >> the bottom line Matty.
> >
> > It is exactly the same with UFO abductions which ALSO exist solely upon
> >eyewitness testimony absent physical evidence.
>
> No, it is not. (See above.)
See, see your ignorance exposed above.
--
I have never had any plans to get out of this world alive.
Matt Giwer
I have not brought up Jews. Your ilk did.
Go away, Schwartze.
--
How dare you be anti-revisionist. Don't you know how
we have suffered?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 67
Matt Giwer
Expose the fantasy of Abraham, Moses, Solomon and his temple.
That can save thousands of lives in the areas occupied by Israel's
military.
Put your fake skepticism to good use in saving lives.
Explain to the redneck Israelis just how stupid they are to believe
such nonsense. In fact, explain to them there was never an Israel as
described in the OT. Everyone in soc.history.ancient knows there was
none.
Stop posting like fundies and expose the idiocy upon which Israel is
based and the redneck idea there was a Solomon. Do some good for a
change.
--
Sadistic computer users love drag and drop.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 433
Lou Minatti™
>
> You do not but here is a good one for you to start.
Hic!
Lou Minatti™
>
> "Robert J. Kolker" wrote:
> >
> > Dominion wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
> >
> > If that funny little loudmouth Feldwebel with the
> > mustache had been laughed at, there never
> > would have been a second world war.
>
> If there had never been a Theodor Herzl the Middle East would have
> continued its 400 years of peace. It is best that sputum had never been
> born.
Does Sterno come in a six-pack?
Matt Giwer
>
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> > You do not but here is a good one for you to start.
>
> Hic!
I agree you are both illeterate and drunk but that does not cut water
in soc.history.ancient. You idiots are ridicule fodder here.
You actually believe in Moses?! What an idiot!
--
The Gulf of Tonkin conspiracy involved hundreds of people
and lasted 6 years and only broke because of Ellsberg
sending 'the pentagon papers' to the New York Times.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 214
Matt Giwer
You should see how stupid you rednecks look in a newsgroup which knows
your Abraham and Moses never existed and you believers are redneck
fundiess. You are Falwells of the Jewish persuation. You folks are
totally off the wall believing what everyone in s.h.a knows is total
gibberish.
And you pretend to be skeptics. You folks are total idiots in your
beliefs.
--
The Florida vote shows just how stupid
Gore supporters really are.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 316
Dominion
>In article <0A686682A7F9878C.2384A804...@lp.airnews.net>,
>dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
>
>>Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
>
>The sad thing is, Matty doesn't appear to understand that...
He may not understand it, but I am willing to bet he is aware of it
and does not like it. Which is why I recomend that people keep it up.
Remember a laugh at Matty a day keeps the asshole at bay!
Dominion
>"Lou Minatti?" wrote:
>>
>> Matt Giwer wrote:
>> >
>> > "Robert J. Kolker" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dominion wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
>> > >
>> > > If that funny little loudmouth Feldwebel with the
>> > > mustache had been laughed at, there never
>> > > would have been a second world war.
>> >
>> > If there had never been a Theodor Herzl the Middle East would have
>> > continued its 400 years of peace. It is best that sputum had never been
>> > born.
>>
>> Does Sterno come in a six-pack?
>
> You should see how stupid you rednecks look in a newsgroup which knows
>your Abraham and Moses never existed and you believers are redneck
>fundiess. You are Falwells of the Jewish persuation. You folks are
>totally off the wall believing what everyone in s.h.a knows is total
>gibberish.
>
> And you pretend to be skeptics. You folks are total idiots in your
>beliefs.
Ah he is hitting the Sterno cans pretty hard now. He is getting into
rant mode.
I understand why your so upset Matty, must be hell to be taken
seriously by no one of import!
Dominion
>Dominion wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 06:25:03 GMT, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Dominion wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:36:02 -0500, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I suspect he retreats to the safety of the white power ranger newsgroups or
>> >> >moderated discussion boards on Holocaust denial websites such as the CODOH and
>> >> >IHR websites after having been spanked on sci.skeptic or alt.revisionism.
>> >>
>> >> Heh, it is nice to be among friends. Especially friends that engage in
>> >> the same Sterno habits. A thread of commonality. ;)
>> >
>> > And are you also one of those who believes there really was an Abraham
>> >and a Moses and a Solomon and his temple? Such a believer.
>>
>> What I do believe Matty, is that you have never said no to a drink in
>> your life. That and stupid lil' neo-Nazi jew hating scum like you
>> should be made fun of as often as possible.
>>
>> Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
>
> Spoken like a true anti-intellectual redneck. The stupidest people in
>the world are those using the myth of Solomon to justify murder.
Actually Matty, the stupidest people in the world are bigots that hate
based on nothing more than an ethnic identity. Case in point...
> The people to hate are living murderers particularly those murdering
>solely because they are rednecked fundies. At the moment there are
>several million rednecked murderers clustered in Israel. Live with it.
Hey Matty, how IS the Sterno tonight? Is it a good vintage? Light on
the tongue, damaging to the brain? Have another sip then do that very
old song and dance that you just love to do when smashed. You have
always been good for a laugh.
Of course, that is all your good for...
Dominion
> My standards are much higher than yours. When there is no physical
>evidence testimonly is garbage. It is the same with every rational
>person and with real skeptics.
Translated: "My standards are SO high that I can deny ANY historical
fact with a wave of my hand. It does not matter that every rational
person and real skeptic laugh at me. I promise not to cry".
> You folks are not bright enough to be skeptics.
LOL, sez the guy that is famous for fighting his own sock puppet! Damn
Mattress if you are an example of bright, thank god I am dim!
>> > > Just to see the quality of Matty's debating style. Personally I busted
>> > > a gut.
>> >
>> > You are clearly not very bright.
>> >
>> An amusing statement coming from someone who believes a massive conspiracy
>> by the EVIIIIIIIlL JOOOOOOS has duped everyone into believing that the
>> Nazis murdered millions, despite the utter impossibility of such a
>> conspiracy being workable.
>
> As I have said many times, it was the IMT which created the myth. Jews
>are clearly not bright enough nor organized enough to have done it on
>their own.
Oh look. Matty tied to make a joke. Go Matty Go. Oh no. Look, look. No
one laughs. No one laughs at Matty's joke. Matty is so sad.
But wait. Is that laughter? Yes, it is. People are laughing AT Matty,
not with him. Matty can't tell the difference...no no he can't. He
laughs with everyone else. Look at Matty laugh at Matty. Ain't it
cute?
Dominion
>In article <9E0EC2684ACA4C38.18685F87...@lp.airnews.net>,
>dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 06:28:18 GMT, Matt Giwer <jul...@ij.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Dominion wrote:
>
>>>> The dangers of soaking your brain in Sterno Matty. I post from
>>>> sci.skeptic, I am hardly a person to take "testimony without physical
>>>> evidence". Nor do I much care what people in soc.history.ancient know
>>>> or not know, tho I do feel sympathy that they have to put up with your
>>>> xposting.
>>>
>>> Then I suggest you search deja.com and discover the entire sci.skeptic
>>>support of gas chambers is based upon believing eyewitness testimony in
>>>the absense of physical evidence.
>>
>>Matty forgets that the position that there were "no gas chambers" have
>>had it's day in court. It lost Matty. There is more than enough
>>evidence aside from eyewitness testimony to conclude that gas chambers
>>were indeed one of the methods of extermination of jews in Nazi
>>Germany. That you don't want to accept that is your problem Matty, not
>>mine.
>
>Indeed. Now look for Matty to resurrect the old denier straw man claim that "six
>million" Jews were killed in gas chambers. HINT: No one ever said all six
>million Jews were killed in gas chambers. Gas chambers were but one means the
>Nazis used to kill Jews (the most famous means, certainly, but still just one of
>many). The Einsatzgruppen killed around a million Jews using mainly bullets.
That's our Matty. As predictable as a full diper on a baby's butt! And
about as full of it too!
>>>> Of course, UFOs have nothing to do with the holocaust, that really is
>>>> the bottom line Matty.
>>>
>>> It is exactly the same with UFO abductions which ALSO exist solely upon
>>>eyewitness testimony absent physical evidence.
>>
>>Matty show he don't know the difference between historical evidence
>>and physical evidence. If we held every historical event to the "Matty
>>Sterno on the Brain" theory of historical evidence, then we could
>>dispute the fact that George Washington was president of the US.
>
>Very true. I trust you've seen the Mad Revisionist's website, in which he uses
>"revisionist" methodology to prove that the moon does not exist, among other
>things. :-)
I have been there many times and in fact recomend it to my neo-Nazi
friends that write me private email to try to explain to me how wrong
I am to believe in the holocaust (as if one could "believe" in a
historical fact. Might as well believe the sun is a big hot ball of
glowing gas <G>). I love to tell them how right they are and how they
should check out one of the most brilliant thinkers of the revisionist
movement. Why if everyone thought like the Mad Revisionist, we would
never have to argue the reality of reality ever again! ;)
pz
wrote:
> "Lou Minatti?" wrote:
> >
> > Matt Giwer wrote:
> > >
> > > You do not but here is a good one for you to start.
> >
> > Hic!
>
> I agree you are both illeterate and drunk but that does not cut water
Heh. He accused someone else of "illeteracy[sic]". That's pretty funny.
> in soc.history.ancient. You idiots are ridicule fodder here.
>
> You actually believe in Moses?! What an idiot!
--
pz
Matt Giwer
Posts liket that, while the norm in the pseudo-intellectual s.s are
ridiculed in s.h.a.
--
So what would Brian Boytano do?
We never did learn.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 341
Matt Giwer
>
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 19:45:52 GMT, Orac <Or...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <0A686682A7F9878C.2384A804...@lp.airnews.net>,
> >dominion@take_this_out.pdq.net wrote:
> >
> >>Remember we don't debate you Matty. We make fun of you.
> >
> >The sad thing is, Matty doesn't appear to understand that...
>
> He may not understand it, but I am willing to bet he is aware of it
> and does not like it. Which is why I recomend that people keep it up.
>
> Remember a laugh at Matty a day keeps the asshole at bay!
Yes, you are spamming a rational newsgroup soc.history.ancient.
--
The only good communist is a dead communist.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 8
Dominion
>Orac wrote:
>
>> Indeed. Now look for Matty to resurrect the old denier straw man claim that "six
>> million" Jews were killed in gas chambers. HINT: No one ever said all six
>> million Jews were killed in gas chambers. Gas chambers were but one means the
>> Nazis used to kill Jews (the most famous means, certainly, but still just one of
>> many). The Einsatzgruppen killed around a million Jews using mainly bullets.
>
> One of my sigs says to the effect, no holohugger is bright enough to
>recite the statement to which he replies.
Gee one of my sigs warn of the danger of unrestricted Sterno use...and
points to http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/ as an
example of what such a habit can do.
<snip>
Matt Giwer
> I have been there many times and in fact recomend it to my neo-Nazi
> friends
You must remember that neo-nazi is the same as the redneck Israeli
murderers with their "Lebensraum" policy started in 1956 when they were
found in Egypt.
You have to keep in mind you are supporting military occupation.
Palestinians can kill any Israeli they find and it is approved under
international law. All kills by Israelis are murders under international
law.
Israelis are murderers, QED. ]
--
It most of Europe it is a felony to say anything different
from the victor's version of WWII. No matter how things change
they always remain the same.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 221
Matt Giwer
Yes, dummy, Abraham and all that follows is a joke.
And your ilk who believes it are rednecks.
--
Mother Theresa may have been great but who has
paid attention to Father Theresa?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 303
Matt Giwer
Are you claiming Moses believers are not idiots?
What a redneck you are.
--
Bomb, bomb, bomb, Bomb bomb Barak,
Barak is a fool, Make him give Gaza back.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 279