Is Laden Alive Or Not?
John Winston
Here is some information from a person who claims to
know something about Osama Bin Laden. It's very rough
language so you might not want to read it if you think
everything is going OK.
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Subject: Osama Bin Laden has been d-ad since shortly
after 9/11
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009
Only those who get their 'news' from the major towers
of d-ception and p-opaganda still beLIEve that Osama
Bin Laden is alive and well...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24157.htm
Years Of D-ceit: US Openly Accepts Bin Laden Long De-d
By Gordon D-ff
Senior Editor
December 10 2009 "Veterans Today" -- Conservative
commentator former M-rine Colonel Bob P-ppas has been
saying for years that bin Laden die- at Tora Bora and
that Senator K-rry's claim that bin Laden escaped with
Bush help was a l-e. Now we know that Pa-pas was
correct. The embarassment of having Secretary of State
C-inton talk about bin Laden in Pakistan was horrific.
He has been -ead since December 13 2001 and now
finally everyone O-ama M-Chrystal C-eney everyone who
isn't n-ts is finally saying what they have known for
years.
However since we lost a couple of hundred of our top
special operations forces hunting for bin Laden after
we knew he was d-ad is someone going to answer for this
with some j-il time? Since we spent 200 million dollars
on "special ops" looking for someone we knew was de-d
who is going to ja-l for that? Since B-sh R-msfeld and
Ch-ney continually talked about a man they knew was
de-d now known to be for reasons of P-LITICAL nature
[EXPEDIENCY!] who is going to jai- for that? Why were
tapes brought out now known to be forged as legitimate
intelligence to sway the disputed 2004 election in the
US? This is a c-iminal act if there ever was one.
In 66 pages General Stanley McC-rystal never mentions
Osama bin Laden. Everything is "Mullah Omar" now. In
his talk at West P-int P-esident Oba-a never mentioned
Osama bin Laden. Col. Pap-as makes it clear Vice
Pr-sident Che-ey let it "out of the bag" long ago. Bin
Laden was ki-led by American troops many many years
ago.
America knew Osama bin Laden di-d December 13 2001.
After that his use was hardly one to unite A-erica but
rather one to divide scam and play games. With bin
Laden gone we could have started legitimate nation
building in Afghanistan instead of the eternal
insurgency that we invented ourselves.
Without our ill informed po-icies we could have had a
brought diplomatic solution in 2002 in Afghanistan the
one we are ignoring now and spent money rebuilding the
country 5 cents on the dollar compared to what we are
spending fighting a wa- against an enemy we ourselves
recruited thru ignorance.
The bin Laden scam is one of the most shameful acts
ever perpetrated against the American people. We don't
even know if he really was an enemy certainly he was
never the person that Bus- and Chene- said. In fact the
B-sh and bin Laden families were always close friends
and had been for many years.
What kind of man was Osama bin Laden? This one time
American ally against Russia son of a wealthy Saudi
family went to Afghanistan to help them fight for their
freedom. Am-rica saw him as a great hero then.
Transcripts of the real bin Laden show him to be much
more moderate than we claim angry at Israel and the US
gov-rnment but showing no anger toward Americans and
never making the kind of theats claimed. All of this is
public record for any with the will to learn.
How much of Amer-ca's tragedy is tied with these two
children of the rich children of families long joined
thru money and friendship the B-sh and bin Laden clans.
One son died in remote mountains another lives in a
Dallas suburb hoping nobody is sent after him. One is a
combat veteran one never took a strong stand unless
done from safety and comfort. Islam once saw bin Laden
as a great leader. Now he is mostly forgotten.
What has Ame-ica decided about Bu-h?
We know this: Bin Laden always denied any ties to 9/11
and in fact has never been charged in relation to 9/11.
He not only denied involvement but had done so while
alive 4 times and had vigorously condemned those who
were involved in the attack.
This is on the public record public in every free
country except ours. We instead showed films made by
paid actors made up to look somewhat similar to bin
Laden actors who contradicted bin Ladens very public
statements actors pretending to be bin Laden long after
bin Laden's de-th.
These were done to help justify spending repressive
laws t-rture and simple t-ievery.
For years we attacked the gov-rnment of Pakistan for
not hunting down someone everyone knew was dea-. Bin
Laden's d-ath hit the newspapers in Pakistan on
December 15 2001. How do you think our ally felt when
they were continually berated for failing to hunt down
and turn over someone who didn't exist?
What do you think this did for Americ-n credibility in
Pakistan and thru the Islamic world? Were we seen as
crim-nals li-rs or simply f-ols? Which one is best?
This is also t-eason.
How does the de-th of bin Laden and the defeat and
dismemberment of Al Qaeda impact the intelligence
assessments partially based on not only bin Laden but
Al Qaeda activity in Iraq that not only never happened
but was now known to have been unable to happen?
How many "P-ntagon P-ndits" the retired officers who
sold their honor to send us to -ar for what is now
known to be domestic po-itical dirty tricks and not
national se-urity are culpable in these c-imes?
I don't always agree with Col. Pa-pas on things. I
believe his po-itics overrule his judgement at times.
However we totally agree on bin Laden simply disagree
with what it means. To me ly-ng and sending men to
their dea-hs based on l-es is tr-ason.
Falsifying m-litary i-telligence and spending billions
on unnecessary milit-ry operations for poli-ical
reasons is an a-omination. Consider this giving
billions in contracts to G-P friends who fill campaign
coffers and doing so based on falsified intelligence is
i-sane. This was done for years.
We spent 8 years chasing a d-ad man spending billions
sending F-I agents the C-A Navy Seals M-rine Force
Recon Special Forces many to their -eaths as part of a
pol-tical campaign to justify running Am-rican into
debt enriching a pack of pol-tical c-onies and -ar
profiteers and to puff up a pack of Pen-agon pea-ocks
and their Whitehouse draft dodging bosses.
How many laws were pushed thru because of a dea- man?
How many hundreds were t-rtured to find a de-d man?
How many hundreds d-ed looking for a dea- man?
How many billions were spent looking for a d-ad man?
Every time B-sh C-eney and R-msfeld stood before troops
and talked about hunting down the dea- bin Laden it was
a d-shonor. L-ing to men and women who put their lives
on the line is not a joke.
Who is going to answer to the families of those who
d-ed for the po-itics and profit tied to the Hunt for
Bin Laden?
Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Du-f is a Ma-ine
combat veteran and regular contributor on poli-ical and
social issues.
John Winston. joh...@mlode.com