for the sake of the flonk
little toad
outing is rarely the act of someone with a generous spirit
or a kind heart.
before whoever was posting as "jack webb/text medium"
(either a single person or a group of people working
in concert) outed my real first name on usenet, it had
never before appeared on usenet in relationship to or
in conjunction with this nym. unfortunately, that's
no longer the case.
_i_ have never revealed my name on usenet, and for a
reason. i have been stalked on usenet before this
incident, and i am currently being stalked in real life.
i have posted about both of those incidents before this
latest occurrence.
i have only shared my real name via email to a scant
handful of people (either on purpose or inadvertently)
or to my service providers. i have absolutely no doubt
that caputo or gielda would not reveal my name or any
information about me without my knowledge. i will not
speculate in public about how my name appeared in a post.
whoever is helping to do the outing and whoever is actually
doing the outing by posting about it may or may not chose
to complete the outing. i have no control over what outing
fuckheads do, and i have no control over what those who
support the outing or knew about the outing but did nothing
to stop it will or will or will not do.
i _do_, however, have control over to whom and to what posts
i do and will reply.
i know to whom i will _never_ reply again.
everyone has a choice to make. i know what mine will be.
i would very much like to express my public thanks and
appreciation to those who have not fed the outing and
i appreciate those of you who felt as though you were
defending me.
as you probably know, much like rape, outing is about
power and about hurting others, and sometimes about
revenge or a needing a feeling of superiority over others.
most outers need to feel powerful. i'm not interested
in feeding those needs. now, every time someone replies
to those threads with my name in them, i see it over and
over and over again and it's in google forever. that's
not a good feeling for me, but i will survive it.
i still love the flonk and i still love usenet.
love,
little toad
Affinity
I'm so terribly, terribly sorry for handling it so clumsily. I take full
responsibility for that. I've certainly learned something, be it the
hard way. Fucking thick head I do have. In support, I will also not
reply to said people.
--
__
/\ \
/ \ \
/ /\ \ \
/ / /\ \ \
/ / /__\_\ \
/ / /________\
\/______ffinity
Tubby Chubbs
<littl...@this.is.invalid> added to the entropy with:
{{{little toad}}}
--
Tubby Chubbs, mhm i x i
sh0ck the m0nkey
Julia Roberts' Teeth
<littl...@this.is.invalid> wrote:
> please allow me to preface my remarks with this thought:
> outing is rarely the act of someone with a generous spirit
> or a kind heart.
>
>
> before whoever was posting as "jack webb/text medium"
> (either a single person or a group of people working
> in concert) outed my real first name on usenet, it had
> never before appeared on usenet in relationship to or
> in conjunction with this nym. unfortunately, that's
> no longer the case.
Don't take this the wrong way, but if Webb did reveal your first name,
so what? You aren't the only person in the world with that name. If
someone is trying to stalk you, having only your first name isn't going
to tip them off that it's you.
--
This message is encrypted with ROT-26 technology.
±
There were other hints of more to come.
Followed by Jet waiting for someone silly enough to engage her so she
could rattle off some more.
Don't forget: at first, Jet played dumb, but then when provoked let
loose with enough to make certain that she knew what she was up to the
whole time.
>
> --
> This message is encrypted with ROT-26 technology.
--
Ready to create a new newsgroup? It's easier than ever.
Download control message program and maybe find out
what Snuh means at spiffy new Snuh site.
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From: en_mog <en_...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Goodbye :-)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:05:45 -0500
If I have any integrity at all, I must leave.
I welcome others to do so as well if they refuse to be led by a group
of unthinking drones that are stuck in such a mindnumbingly predictable
pattern of snuh/attack/snuh/attack/penises/attack/snuh/rectum/attack/.
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From: TGOS <tg...@spamcop.net>
Newsgroups: alt.hentai.sailor-moon
Subject: Re: Great Newsgroup!
Date: 27 Nov 2000 02:23:19 -0600
Nobody can control the snuh.
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Smee
"little toad" <littl...@this.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:aib8ib$em6$0...@pita.alt.net...
We love you too, little toad. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the barrel
for you.
Smee
Dr. Flonkenstein
in an ultimate attempt to be funny
and witty at once, that summum of the evolution
I can't understand why somebody wants to do you wrong.
this is the lowest thing one can do, even worse than
netcopping. But let this not disctract your mood.
Chin up !!
***
Flonky
--
Dr Flonkenstein
Alcatroll Labs Inc. Flame, troll and
antispaem bots
development.
mhm 27x12 MEOW MEOW ARMY
ICQ 146303664
Highpriest of the
Romath Religion
Professor Kookology at
BUNGMUNCH Univ.
Flonk leader #19
Wereldsman's hate lits #7
Political Compass :Economic Left/Right: -3.25,
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.13
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when they pry the keyboard from my cold, dead fingers."
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Sjoerd Bakker <sba...@home.nl> had this well argumented reply :
"Flonkenstein is een onbenul. Killfile."
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"Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net> after having made
the cohabitants of the trailerpark clean up the place,
now tries the same on usenet, Message-ID: <a56kh3$51tv6$1...@ID-41291.news.dfncis.de>
"You ought to trim your sig file....
that's a common complaint here"
candle
away from?:
easier said than done. once the bad taste sets in, it takes a while
to get it washed out, believe me, it took me a couple months.
--
candle
ICQ#34579920 AIM:zantetsuken76
http://www.intheblacklight.tk
http://www.livejournal.com/users/zantetsuken76/
candle
he get away from?:
> please allow me to preface my remarks with this thought:
sweetheart, you know I know my shit on this subject, so let me just
say this: I'm sorry that someone tried to drag you around like that.
*hugs*
candle
> In article <aib8ib$em6$0...@pita.alt.net>, "little toad"
everything begins somewhere, question being, where does it stop...
jet
>i have only shared my real name via email to a scant
>handful of people (either on purpose or inadvertently)
>or to my service providers. i have absolutely no doubt
>that caputo or gielda would not reveal my name or any
>information about me without my knowledge. i will not
>speculate in public about how my name appeared in a post.
>
Medium couldn't have known, unless one of your close friends, who jumped
in to confirm it was your name, told her. I think that's highly unlikely,
don't you? She picked one of the most common names in the English language
and, if your "defenders" had kept their mouths shut, it *never would have
been an issue*.
They were successful at polarizing the flonk, though. It's a pity the
attempt to dogpile, flood and out a flonk newbie rebounded so badly.
--
jet mhm 32x30 |
wee saul disciple #32 |
BBH7 |
Cohort #18 |
ich bin ein meower |
jet
>Julia Roberts' Teeth wrote:
>>
>> In article <aib8ib$em6$0...@pita.alt.net>, "little toad"
>> <littl...@this.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > please allow me to preface my remarks with this thought:
>> > outing is rarely the act of someone with a generous spirit
>> > or a kind heart.
>> >
>> >
>> > before whoever was posting as "jack webb/text medium"
>> > (either a single person or a group of people working
>> > in concert) outed my real first name on usenet, it had
>> > never before appeared on usenet in relationship to or
>> > in conjunction with this nym. unfortunately, that's
>> > no longer the case.
>>
>> Don't take this the wrong way, but if Webb did reveal your first name,
>> so what? You aren't the only person in the world with that name. If
>> someone is trying to stalk you, having only your first name isn't going
>> to tip them off that it's you.
>
>There were other hints of more to come.
>
>Followed by Jet waiting for someone silly enough to engage her so she
>could rattle off some more.
>
This is interesting. Why are you trying to blame me for outing little
toad? You didn't tell me her name, Dean, and you're the **only one**
who could have.
>Don't forget: at first, Jet played dumb, but then when provoked let
>loose with enough to make certain that she knew what she was up to the
>whole time.
>
Uh huh. How did I do that, Dean. The timing of these accusations is
a bit odd, coming right after a month of you and your pals doing
everything you could to discredit TM.
--
jet mhm 32x30 |
wee saul disciple #32 |
fluffy ate my meow |
Steve Leyland
: please allow me to preface my remarks with this thought:
((((little toad))))
--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#35
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
=^MEOW^=
Do you I am an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition. - Woody Allen
"please find below with full headers several posts apparently from your
user who is extensively trolling, extensively cross-posting, posting
off-topic, abusing and generally doing everything wrong on USENET."
Julia Roberts' Teeth
<cand...@charter.net> wrote:
> I thought Julia Roberts' Teeth said he was a getaway driver. what the
> fuck can he get away from?:
>
> > In article <aib8ib$em6$0...@pita.alt.net>, "little toad"
> > <littl...@this.is.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> please allow me to preface my remarks with this thought:
> >> outing is rarely the act of someone with a generous spirit
> >> or a kind heart.
> >>
> >>
> >> before whoever was posting as "jack webb/text medium"
> >> (either a single person or a group of people working
> >> in concert) outed my real first name on usenet, it had
> >> never before appeared on usenet in relationship to or
> >> in conjunction with this nym. unfortunately, that's
> >> no longer the case.
> >
> > Don't take this the wrong way, but if Webb did reveal your first
> name,
> > so what? You aren't the only person in the world with that name. If
> > someone is trying to stalk you, having only your first name isn't
> going
> > to tip them off that it's you.
>
> everything begins somewhere, question being, where does it stop...
The way I see it, calling her by her first name isn't going to hurt
her, unless her stalker already knows who she is. And if that's the
case, then it really doesn't matter if Jack Webb outed her.
Now if Webb had posted her full name/address/SSN/credit card numbers,
etc, I could understand her being upset.
To little toad: Start thinking of people who dislike you enough that
they're willing to disclose your personal info without your consent,
and that'll lead to Jack Webb's identity.
jet
>I thought Smee said he was a getaway driver. what the fuck can he get
>away from?:
>easier said than done. once the bad taste sets in, it takes a while
>to get it washed out, believe me, it took me a couple months.
>
"It's been about a year since I was really into usenet. It's had it's
flashes, but it's also had it's thorns and daggers, and it's just tme
to go. I haven't been back to the flonk, and I don't have any desire
to, and my desire to do any of the groups is at a bare minimum. I just
don't have much to say anymore, so I'm saying goodbye. Catch me on ICQ
or AIM if you care....."
Candle-June 2002
--
jet mhm 32x30 |
wee saul disciple #32 |
trippy
said the following tripped out things....
> In article <Xns925D921CB94C3c...@216.168.3.40>, candle <cand...@charter.net> wrote:
> >I thought Smee said he was a getaway driver. what the fuck can he get
> >away from?:
> [...]
> >easier said than done. once the bad taste sets in, it takes a while
> >to get it washed out, believe me, it took me a couple months.
> >
> FFS, don't you ever stay gone?
>
> "It's been about a year since I was really into usenet. It's had it's
> flashes, but it's also had it's thorns and daggers, and it's just tme
> to go. I haven't been back to the flonk, and I don't have any desire
> to, and my desire to do any of the groups is at a bare minimum. I just
> don't have much to say anymore, so I'm saying goodbye. Catch me on ICQ
> or AIM if you care....."
And now he's back. Good. It'll be a refreshing change of pace from the
dipshits parading around like well......dipshits.
--
Trippy
tri...@XspamblockXthetrippy.com
Jesus loves you, but he won't give you bail money.
Doobie Doobie Doo
trippy
<aib8ib$em6$0...@pita.alt.net>, said the following tripped out things....
Well, I speak for myself when I say that I'm glad you haven't booked
out, though I'd understand if you did so. Anyway, I hope you're ok, and
that all of this bullshit blows over real soon.
little toad
"Affinity" <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:3D492D3D...@bigpond.com...
all any of us can expect to do with our lives is to learn and grow.
love,
little toad
little toad
"Tubby Chubbs" <smoke...@doublejoint.edu> wrote in message
news:3d49324c...@news.alt.net...
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:11:10 -0500, "little toad"
> <littl...@this.is.invalid> added to the entropy with:
>
>
>
> {{{little toad}}}
thank you, tubby chubbs.
little toad
"Smee" <psci...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:aiborl$508$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net...
> We love you too, little toad. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the barrel
> for you.
thank you, dear smee. your children have a good mother.
love,
little toad
little toad
"ryannosaurus" <killing...@icqmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d4d6872...@west.usenetserver.com...
> Only in a place like alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk would
> smoke...@doublejoint.edu (Tubby Chubbs) have the audacity to post:
>
> >On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:11:10 -0500, "little toad"
> ><littl...@this.is.invalid> added to the entropy with:
> >
> >
> >
> >{{{little toad}}}
>
thanks, ry.
love,
lt
little toad
"Dr. Flonkenstein " <gregoriy_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d497da9....@news.alt.net...
> I can't understand why somebody wants to do you wrong.
<shrug>
some peeps are just fuckheads.
some peeps think outing is funny.
> this is the lowest thing one can do, even worse than
> netcopping. But let this not disctract your mood.
> Chin up !!
>
> ***
> Flonky
you are adorable and i thank you.
love,
little toad
little toad
news:Xns925D925771691c...@216.168.3.40...
> sweetheart, you know I know my shit on this subject, so let me just
> say this: I'm sorry that someone tried to drag you around like that.
>
> *hugs*
thanks. i very much appreciate that, candle.
love,
little toad
little toad
"Steve Leyland" <stevel...@snuhbuhguh.zzn.com.removethisbit> wrote in
message news:aics89$74u$0...@pita.alt.net...
> ((((little toad))))
thank you for everything, steve.
you have been very kind, very
helpful.
love,
little toad
little toad
news:MPG.17b3d4be...@news.alt.net...
> Well, I speak for myself when I say that I'm glad you haven't booked
> out, though I'd understand if you did so. Anyway, I hope you're ok, and
> that all of this bullshit blows over real soon.
thanks, trippy. things have a way of
working themselves out.
love,
little toad
candle
successfully capture the ever allusive bearded clam frolicking
pre-breeding season on film:
> In article <Xns925D921CB94C3c...@216.168.3.40>,
candle
> <cand...@charter.net> wrote:
>>I thought Smee said he was a getaway driver. what the fuck can he
get
>>away from?:
> [...]
>>easier said than done. once the bad taste sets in, it takes a while
>>to get it washed out, believe me, it took me a couple months.
>>
> FFS, don't you ever stay gone?
you only wish.
> "It's been about a year since I was really into usenet. It's had
it's
> flashes, but it's also had it's thorns and daggers, and it's just
tme
> to go. I haven't been back to the flonk, and I don't have any
desire
> to, and my desire to do any of the groups is at a bare minimum. I
just
> don't have much to say anymore, so I'm saying goodbye. Catch me on
ICQ
> or AIM if you care....."
>
> Candle-June 2002
yep, and I changed my mind, and IIRC I haven't said shit to you, so
question on my mind is: what exactly is your god damned point?
candle
successfully capture the ever allusive bearded clam frolicking
pre-breeding season on film:
> This dude, "jet" j...@untool.net, in message
it's actually entertaining on a level to where you can see humanity
shifting evolution into reverse and degenerating into toddlers (then
again, most toddlers have better sense than these fuckwits) and or
cavemen/women.
candle
frolicking pre-breeding season on film:
> "candle" <cand...@charter.net> wrote in message
ain't no thing. I know how it feels to get played.
little toad
news:aiejgr$ugq$p...@pita.alt.net...
[.]
ask fred. take care.
jet
know the old line: how can I miss you, if you won't go away.
jet
>After years of searching the scientist at the trippy research lab has
>successfully capture the ever allusive bearded clam frolicking
>pre-breeding season on film:
>it's actually entertaining on a level to where you can see humanity
>shifting evolution into reverse and degenerating into toddlers (then
>again, most toddlers have better sense than these fuckwits) and or
>cavemen/women.
>
the flonk forever, again, or just not posting your poetry to usenet
anymore, again?
Jules
<aiesfi$688$3...@pita.alt.net>
>In article <Xns925E90999E1C4c...@216.168.3.40>, candle <cand...@charter.net> wrote:
>>After years of searching the scientist at the trippy research lab has
>>successfully capture the ever allusive bearded clam frolicking
>>pre-breeding season on film:
>[...]
>>it's actually entertaining on a level to where you can see humanity
>>shifting evolution into reverse and degenerating into toddlers (then
>>again, most toddlers have better sense than these fuckwits) and or
>>cavemen/women.
>>
>Cool. Does that mean you'll be leaving forever, again, or just leaving
>the flonk forever, again, or just not posting your poetry to usenet
>anymore, again?
Poetry's cool. Sure beats the hell out of everyone shouting at each
other all the time. Y'all should make a rota, poems Monday, Wednesday
and Friday, flames Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday with Sunday taken as
a day off to recharge those mental batteries.
Heh, either that or alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-flame needs
creating for those who fell the need...
--
Jules
jet
> jet
><aiesfi$688$3...@pita.alt.net>
>
>>In article <Xns925E90999E1C4c...@216.168.3.40>, candle
> <cand...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>After years of searching the scientist at the trippy research lab has
>>>successfully capture the ever allusive bearded clam frolicking
>>>pre-breeding season on film:
>>[...]
>>>it's actually entertaining on a level to where you can see humanity
>>>shifting evolution into reverse and degenerating into toddlers (then
>>>again, most toddlers have better sense than these fuckwits) and or
>>>cavemen/women.
>>>
>>Cool. Does that mean you'll be leaving forever, again, or just leaving
>>the flonk forever, again, or just not posting your poetry to usenet
>>anymore, again?
>
>Poetry's cool.
>
> Sure beats the hell out of everyone shouting at each
>other all the time.
>
I wouldn't go that far.
>Heh, either that or alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-flame needs
>creating for those who fell the need...
>
I think alt.alien.vampire.flood.floood.flood would fix a lot of problems.
Jules
<aif16g$lhv$2...@pita.alt.net>
>In article <290mku4fcv0s1koa3...@beguile.org>, Jules <Ju...@beguile.org> wrote:
>> jet
>><aiesfi$688$3...@pita.alt.net>
>>
>>>In article <Xns925E90999E1C4c...@216.168.3.40>, candle
>> <cand...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>After years of searching the scientist at the trippy research lab has
>>>>successfully capture the ever allusive bearded clam frolicking
>>>>pre-breeding season on film:
>>>[...]
>>>>it's actually entertaining on a level to where you can see humanity
>>>>shifting evolution into reverse and degenerating into toddlers (then
>>>>again, most toddlers have better sense than these fuckwits) and or
>>>>cavemen/women.
>>>>
>>>Cool. Does that mean you'll be leaving forever, again, or just leaving
>>>the flonk forever, again, or just not posting your poetry to usenet
>>>anymore, again?
>>
>>Poetry's cool.
>>
>I guess it's better than a sharp stick in the eye.
Yeah, and its art, Jet. Creating something that entertains the
readers. Constructive, informative, innovative or just plain
humourous. Jabbing some poor sap in the eye with a sharp stick could
never, ever be construed as art could it now?
>> Sure beats the hell out of everyone shouting at each
>>other all the time.
>>
>I wouldn't go that far.
That's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to air it. Now I
personally find the Jet of a couple of years ago much more
entertaining. Read into that what you will, oh noisy one.
>>Heh, either that or alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-flame needs
>>creating for those who fell the need...
>>
>I think alt.alien.vampire.flood.floood.flood would fix a lot of problems.
Its all about opinions. I've never seen the need to worry about
floods, real or imagined though. After all, we managed to read Usenet
pretty well when Hipcrime was at s/he/its/their noisiest, didn't we?
--
Jules
candle
because, despite idiots like you, there are some people here I do
enjoy reading and interacting with, and when I miss them, and the
general insanity, I wander back around.
HatchetMama
Jules <Ju...@beguile.org> wrote in message
news:it3mku08r5d8i94dj...@beguile.org...
Not unless it was done with a dead fish...
jet
> jet
><aif16g$lhv$2...@pita.alt.net>
>
>>In article <290mku4fcv0s1koa3...@beguile.org>, Jules
> <Ju...@beguile.org> wrote:
>>>Poetry's cool.
>>>
Your wish is my command.
>>I guess it's better than a sharp stick in the eye.
>
>Yeah, and its art, Jet.
>
So is Ayn Rand, but I don't particularly want to read her on usenet.
> Creating something that entertains the
>readers. Constructive, informative, innovative or just plain
>humourous. Jabbing some poor sap in the eye with a sharp stick could
>never, ever be construed as art could it now?
>
All Nature is but art, unknown to thee,
All chance direction which thou can'st not see;
All discord harmony, not understood,
All partial evil universal good,
And in spite of pride in erring Reason's spite,
One Truth is clear, whatever is is right.
>>> Sure beats the hell out of everyone shouting at each
>>>other all the time.
>>>
>>I wouldn't go that far.
>
>That's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to air it. Now I
>personally find the Jet of a couple of years ago much more
>entertaining. Read into that what you will, oh noisy one.
>
Ah, but I was insane and trusting, then.
Sir, I am vex'd;
Bear with my weaknesses; my old brain is troubled.
Be not disturbed with my infirmity.
. . . a turn or two I'll take
To still my beating mind.
>>>Heh, either that or alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-flame needs
>>>creating for those who fell the need...
>>>
>>I think alt.alien.vampire.flood.floood.flood would fix a lot of problems.
>
>Its all about opinions. I've never seen the need to worry about
>floods, real or imagined though.
>
Even now, we heard a hollow burst of bellowing
Like bulls, or rather lions; did't not wake you?
It struck mine ear most terribly.
> After all, we managed to read Usenet
>pretty well when Hipcrime was at s/he/its/their noisiest, didn't we?
>
I was behind Cleanfeed.
Steve Leyland
: "Steve Leyland" <stevel...@snuhbuhguh.zzn.com.removethisbit> wrote
I always do what little I can to help nice folks.
its just a damn shame the flonk has come to this.
<sigh>
--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#35
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
=^MEOW^=
And the only thing the Borg left was this Macintosh...
Soapy
<3d4c904d...@west.usenetserver.com>:
>Only in a place like alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk would
>j...@untool.net (jet) have the audacity to post:
>
>> In article <it3mku08r5d8i94dj...@beguile.org>, Jules
>> <Ju...@beguile.org> wrote:
>>> jet
>>> <aif16g$lhv$2...@pita.alt.net>
>>>
>>>> In article <290mku4fcv0s1koa3...@beguile.org>,
>>>> Jules
>>> <Ju...@beguile.org> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>>> Poetry's cool.
>>>>>
>> Your wish is my command.
>>
>>
>>>> I guess it's better than a sharp stick in the eye.
>>>
>>> Yeah, and its art, Jet.
>>>
>> So is Ayn Rand, but I don't particularly want to read her on
>> usenet.
>>
>>
>>> Creating something that entertains the
>>> readers. Constructive, informative, innovative or just plain
>>> humourous. Jabbing some poor sap in the eye with a sharp stick
>>> could never, ever be construed as art could it now?
>>>
>> All Nature is but art, unknown to thee,
>> All chance direction which thou can'st not see;
>> All discord harmony, not understood,
>> All partial evil universal good,
>> And in spite of pride in erring Reason's spite,
>> One Truth is clear, whatever is is right.
>
>It may not be pootery, but I came up with the following description
>of usenet just this night in a hot steaming AIM chat:
>
>
>
>
>
>Usenet is like an attractive basket of fruit...
>
>only most of it turns out to be wax
>
>but someone slipped in some nice brandy-soaked cherries
>
>and every other grape was stuck up some guy's ass while he
>masturbated to pictures of Gillian Anderson's head on other womens'
>bodies.
The moral of this story:
Don't eat the grapes.
Tubby Chubbs
entropy with:
>killing...@icqmail.com (ryannosaurus) wrote in
If only it hadn't been Gillian Anderson.
--
Tbby Chubbs, mhm ix i
sh0ck them0ney
anonyme
<littl...@this.is.invalid> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
Personally, I'm not trying to defend anyone -- I'm sure you can take
care of yourself -- I'm expressing my disgust for the outing scumbag.
>as you probably know, much like rape, outing is about
>power and about hurting others, and sometimes about
>revenge or a needing a feeling of superiority over others.
>most outers need to feel powerful. i'm not interested
>in feeding those needs. now, every time someone replies
>to those threads with my name in them, i see it over and
>over and over again and it's in google forever. that's
>not a good feeling for me, but i will survive it.
>
>i still love the flonk and i still love usenet.
>
>love,
>little toad
>
Good on ya.
--
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meow!
anonyme
<Ju...@beguile.org> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
What was she like a couple years ago?
>
>>>Heh, either that or alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-flame needs
>>>creating for those who fell the need...
>>>
>>I think alt.alien.vampire.flood.floood.flood would fix a lot of problems.
>
>Its all about opinions. I've never seen the need to worry about
>floods, real or imagined though. After all, we managed to read Usenet
>pretty well when Hipcrime was at s/he/its/their noisiest, didn't we?
--
anonyme
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
>In article <aib8ib$em6$0...@pita.alt.net>, "little toad"
><littl...@this.is.invalid> wrote:
>[...]
>>i have only shared my real name via email to a scant
>>handful of people (either on purpose or inadvertently)
>>or to my service providers. i have absolutely no doubt
>>that caputo or gielda would not reveal my name or any
>>information about me without my knowledge. i will not
>>
>That should be obvious, shouldn't it? Unfortunately for your theory, Text
>Medium couldn't have known, unless one of your close friends, who jumped
>in to confirm it was your name, told her. I think that's highly unlikely,
>don't you? She picked one of the most common names in the English language
>and, if your "defenders" had kept their mouths shut, it *never would have
>been an issue*.
>
>They were successful at polarizing the flonk, though. It's a pity the
>attempt to dogpile, flood and out a flonk newbie rebounded so badly.
Where?
Jelliebun
>
>"little toad" <littl...@this.is.invalid> wrote in message
>news:aib8ib$em6$0...@pita.alt.net...
>> please allow me to preface my remarks with this thought:
>> outing is rarely the act of someone with a generous spirit
>> or a kind heart.
>>
>>
>> before whoever was posting as "jack webb/text medium"
>> (either a single person or a group of people working
>> in concert) outed my real first name on usenet, it had
>> never before appeared on usenet in relationship to or
>> in conjunction with this nym. unfortunately, that's
>> no longer the case.
>>
>> _i_ have never revealed my name on usenet, and for a
>> reason. i have been stalked on usenet before this
>> incident, and i am currently being stalked in real life.
>> i have posted about both of those incidents before this
>> latest occurrence.
>>
>> i have only shared my real name via email to a scant
>> handful of people (either on purpose or inadvertently)
>> or to my service providers. i have absolutely no doubt
>> that caputo or gielda would not reveal my name or any
>> information about me without my knowledge. i will not
>> speculate in public about how my name appeared in a post.
>>
>> whoever is helping to do the outing and whoever is actually
>> doing the outing by posting about it may or may not chose
>> to complete the outing. i have no control over what outing
>> fuckheads do, and i have no control over what those who
>> support the outing or knew about the outing but did nothing
>> to stop it will or will or will not do.
>>
>>
>> i _do_, however, have control over to whom and to what posts
>> i do and will reply.
>>
>> i know to whom i will _never_ reply again.
>>
>> everyone has a choice to make. i know what mine will be.
>>
>>
>> i would very much like to express my public thanks and
>> appreciation to those who have not fed the outing and
>> i appreciate those of you who felt as though you were
>> defending me.
>>
>>
>> as you probably know, much like rape, outing is about
>> power and about hurting others, and sometimes about
>> revenge or a needing a feeling of superiority over others.
>> most outers need to feel powerful. i'm not interested
>> in feeding those needs. now, every time someone replies
>> to those threads with my name in them, i see it over and
>> over and over again and it's in google forever. that's
>> not a good feeling for me, but i will survive it.
>>
>> i still love the flonk and i still love usenet.
>>
>>
>> love,
>> little toad
>>
>>
>
>We love you too, little toad. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the barrel
>for you.
>
>Smee
>
"We" don't all love little toad -- some of us find her insidious,
smarmy, unpleasant and manipulative, as well as a generally boring
read.
Posting RL information, however, is just pathetic, without the active
enthusiastic participation of the 'outee', as it were.
Jelliebun
mhm20x20
--
Try not to let your mind wander. It's too small to be out by itself.
jet
Jelliebun
You are a tit, jet. I'm not particularly interested in your input.
Jelliebun
mhm20x20
unconcerned
little toad
news:jg0okuoog8ljpbvg9...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:11:10 -0500 I answered "little toad"
> <littl...@this.is.invalid> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
> Personally, I'm not trying to defend anyone --
no problem. i've never asked anyone to do so.
in fact, i asked for the opposite to happen, but
that is all i can do -- ask. i have no control
over anyone's actions but my own. i own my own
posts but i don't own anyone else's.
this is not a troll on _my_ part; somebody outed
my first name. i have a very good idea how it
all went down and who all was involved and how it
has all snowballed into the even uglier mess that
it is now. i meant what i said in my post: i'll
not be speculating about the chain of events in
public.
other than the scant few posts about this i've
already made, i'll not be posting much of anything
about it and i have NOT asked anyone else to post
ANYTHING about it either.
ANYONE who is using ME to advanced ANY agenda is
doing it on their own. i am not involved in any
of that and i am not going to get involved in any
of it either.
if i want to say anything more than i already have,
i will. i simply want it to go the fuck away.
ALL of it.
the things i read in here this morning DISGUSTED me.
using people's children against them is despicable.
> I'm sure you can take
> care of yourself
this IS me taking care of myself. just because people
don't see me being upset in RL and stuff does not mean
that it is not happening.
i speak for myself. ANYONE who thinks they are speaking
for me or who is making it look like they are speaking
for me is sadly mistaken and they need to STOP DOING IT!
if people believe otherwise, i have no control over that.
> I'm expressing my disgust for the outing scumbag.
i very much appreciate that.
although i have said this privately to several people,
i'll say it in public: outing outers does no one any
favors.
i named this thread for a reason. too bad some people
didn't get that, but i don't have any control over any
of that.
> >as you probably know, much like rape, outing is about
> >power and about hurting others, and sometimes about
> >revenge or a needing a feeling of superiority over others.
> >most outers need to feel powerful. i'm not interested
> >in feeding those needs. now, every time someone replies
> >to those threads with my name in them, i see it over and
> >over and over again and it's in google forever. that's
> >not a good feeling for me, but i will survive it.
now the same thing has happened to others, and whether
they choose to believe it or not, my heart goes out
to them for their loss and for having that loss used
against them.
shame on those who did it.
--
little toad
Rebecca Ore
>
> this is not a troll on _my_ part; somebody outed
> my first name.
A number of people just don't believe this.
Tim Thorne's outed my last name. I've had a couple of other people
threaten to netstalk me over dissing them; now, I've had someone one
threaten to out me for the flimsiest of excuses. One, I don't know your
real life details. As long as you're not actively doing something like
running NewsAgent, I have utterly no interest in outing you. And, in
fact, had you been running NewsAgent and had quit, I would protect you
from being outed to the best of my ability (which is a bit less
considerable than I'd want but probably more considerable than you
realize).
If I was going to nail you to the wall, I'd do it in my own name and I'd
have a *damn* better reason to do it than you flamed and dissed me.
> i have a very good idea how it
> all went down and who all was involved and how it
> has all snowballed into the even uglier mess that
> it is now.
Nothing like Dean spilling details about what he said happened to you,
really, if it really happened.
> i meant what i said in my post: i'll
> not be speculating about the chain of events in
> public.
Funny thing about all this is that I had my domain listed at my real
address all the time I was running a despamming cancel bot, while I was
trolling HipCrime into revealing his source code, while I was fighting
the net stalkers *I've* had to deal with, and so forth, I've never been
outed or even gotten harrassing phone calls I could distinguish from the
usual random silly calls. Even while running a server that had IRS
Agent as a user, I wasn't harrassed. Now that I'm hardly posting and
don't run a cancelbot or a news server, Jason and Dean are looking for
some excuse to threaten me over something I had nothing to do with in
the first place. Just because I am jet's friend and was her news admin.
>
> other than the scant few posts about this i've
> already made, i'll not be posting much of anything
> about it and i have NOT asked anyone else to post
> ANYTHING about it either.
>
> ANYONE who is using ME to advanced ANY agenda is
> doing it on their own. i am not involved in any
> of that and i am not going to get involved in any
> of it either.
People who've picked major fights with friends over trifles have a bad
habit of using all their friends in this week's fight. I've had someone
call me to bitch about a guy and then try to get the same guy to attack
me -- in RL. The guy and I finally had a chat about her and realized
just how completely off the frigging wall she was.
>
> if i want to say anything more than i already have,
> i will. i simply want it to go the fuck away.
>
> ALL of it.
>
> the things i read in here this morning DISGUSTED me.
> using people's children against them is despicable.
Jet was hours away from a warning from me about her inadvertant hit on
Spooge's RL history when she apologized of her own accord. I'm glad to
see that you do stop at some things, even if you set this ball in motion
by telling folks that TM had hit on your real name. Funny, some emails
behind the scenes might have reassured you that nobody knew more.
Posting anonymously, while not remotely in the same league as rape, is
about having anonymous power to hurt others, too. You have tried to use
that power yourself, whatever happened to you. Various people have
threatened me with netstalking, loons have tried to smear my books under
the names of other people, and when I was younger, I had a physical
anonymous phone threat over bicycle time trialing. The local murderer
one place wanted to get to know me better. If you've really been
stalked and abused, I can sympathize with you, but you had to have seen
Jason and Dean turn first on Belinda, then on Queenie and Tiernan, then
on jet over something as trivial as her defense of someone issuing
rmgroups (anyone can newgroup in alt.*; anyone can rmgroup). And you
surely knew what they were capable of throwing out in a flame. And you
have to know that just asking them to stop could have them turning on
you. You're curbing their freedom of speech by that request, they could
say.
>
> now the same thing has happened to others, and whether
> they choose to believe it or not, my heart goes out
> to them for their loss and for having that loss used
> against them.
>
> shame on those who did it.
Indeed. The other shame is that they are claiming to have protected you
against further outing by bringing throwing that in jet's face and by
threatening to out people who are friends of jet's, without evidence
that any of us knew any of your RL details, or were socking up, or
anything.
With somethings, it's better to be trolled and behave decently than to
suspect a troll and behave badly. While I still don't believe your
first name was really outed, I do believe that this all has become much
uglier than you wanted it to be. And that you are sorry for that.
--
Rebecca Ore
mhm 29x7
Dean of Subversive Arts and Foreign Affairs
Bungmunch Unversity
Former *'ed despammer
Former admin of the best little partial feed usenet server in the world
±
>
> little toad wrote:
First off, Becca, LT publicly plonked you and you know it.
Every thing you have wrote is pure conjecture, hearsay and
intellectually dishonest - and you know it.
> AI wasn't harrassed. Now that I'm hardly posting and
> don't run a cancelbot or a news server, Jason and Dean are looking for
> some excuse to threaten me over something I had nothing to do with in
> the first place.
Where do you see me even mention you, other than one reply I made to a
post of yours?
Why are you so paranoid?
> Just because I am jet's friend and was her news admin.
You think that I have it in for you because of Jet?
Take your meds, Becca.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=m3r8n0ocmp.fsf%40pyrophore.ogoense.net&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
===
From: Rebecca Ore <reb...@pyrophore.ogoense.net>
Newsgroups: alt.hackers.malicious,alt.flame
Subject: Re: ISP's and forwarding spam complaints?
Date: 04 Mar 2002 05:23:10 -0500
Message-ID: <m3r8n0o...@pyrophore.ogoense.net>
> Just wait until she does it from your server. Until that happens you'll
> never understand. If she found the place so damned objectionable, the
> honorable thing would have been to close the account. That's what I would
> do in that circumstance. If you think what she did was honorable, then I
> think your version of honor and mine are highways headed in opposite
> directions.
The people who were going after her were not exactly honorable people.
I have had a person ask me for an account one week and then flame jet
the next (and not that long ago, either, this year).
===
I had always thought it was funny that people who flamed Jet couldn't
get an account with you.
> I can sympathize with you, but you had to have seen
> Jason and Dean turn first on Belinda, then on Queenie and Tiernan,
Proof of this, please.
All those you've mentioned made a truly unwise choice to try and run me.
It was *their* decision to attack me, they all threw the first blows.
All this is further proof of what a old biddy you have become, you speak
about others without any qualified knowledge of what happened.
> then
> on jet over something as trivial as her defense of someone issuing
> rmgroups (anyone can newgroup in alt.*; anyone can rmgroup).
No.
I had mentioned Jet's name in a not so positive light and she took a
swing at me.
She got her ass handed to her - too bad, she's the Flame Queen with
charts to prove it.
Hey, Becca - what do you make of this post from Jet:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=aepdvf%243js%241%40paradoxa.ogoense.net&output=gplain
"WTF do I care about your choice of what public posts I reference? I
don't need your permission. BTW".
>
> --
> Rebecca Ore
> mhm 29x7
> Dean of Subversive Arts and Foreign Affairs
> Bungmunch Unversity
> Former *'ed despammer
> Former admin of the best little partial feed usenet server in the world
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From: en_mog <en_...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Goodbye :-)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:05:45 -0500
If I have any integrity at all, I must leave.
I welcome others to do so as well if they refuse to be led by a group
of unthinking drones that are stuck in such a mindnumbingly predictable
pattern of snuh/attack/snuh/attack/penises/attack/snuh/rectum/attack/.
-
From: TGOS <tg...@spamcop.net>
Newsgroups: alt.hentai.sailor-moon
Subject: Re: Great Newsgroup!
Date: 27 Nov 2000 02:23:19 -0600
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Rebecca Ore
>
> Rebecca Ore wrote:
> >
> > little toad wrote:
>
> First off, Becca, LT publicly plonked you and you know it.
How would I? I had her scored down in Gnus several months ago and
didn't much pay attention to her. Not all plonks are public. And I'd
got adaptive scoring turned on in Gnus, it does plonks of anything I
mark read, even me sometimes.
>
> Every thing you have wrote is pure conjecture, hearsay and
> intellectually dishonest - and you know it.
Funny to see you going against little toad's wishes between the time I
wrote that and the time. Yah, Dean, way to go.
You prove me so right, and I thought it would take longer, like a few
weeks, before you were willing to hurt little toad to further your own
agenda.
> The people who were going after her were not exactly honorable people.
> I have had a person ask me for an account one week and then flame jet
> the next (and not that long ago, either, this year).
> ===
>
> I had always thought it was funny that people who flamed Jet couldn't
> get an account with you.
Most of them attacked jet after I turned them down. Funny about that.
>
> > I can sympathize with you, but you had to have seen
> > Jason and Dean turn first on Belinda, then on Queenie and Tiernan,
>
> Proof of this, please.
Belinda and Gary have a server on a DSL connection. They were told by
me that certain admins were speaking out against them in a semi-private
place. I suggested to Belinda that she take a look at it (she had
access). Next thing, I know uu.net told them to stop you (and frankly,
they don't really have a wide range of peers to chose from) and you were
having all sorts of trouble over that.
You still seem to have trouble over that. Gary can put whatever face he
wants on it and so can you, but knowing what I know, he had no choice
other than to shut the server down or be depeered. So, while I'm sure
you would like to have seen the server shut down, there are people who
use DataBasix for something other than trolling and newsgroup invasions.
(Snips)
And I know you're been getting cancelled now for trying to fuck with
restricted European hieararchies. You can throw all the little temper
tantrums you want and all, but there's already a change in how even the
big providers handle usenet. Little toad and you have both tried
posting to places where either Caputo isn't putting your posts into
transit or several providers (supernews or newsguy, news.verison.net,
and sol.net) are just dropping them.
My bet's on Caputo just quietly letting something fall on the floor, but
I really don't know. I just think it's neat that some of these attempts
to fuck with other people's communications and freedom of association
are finally being curbed.
Not that you should lose any accounts over it or anything.
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
@verizon.net:
>
> Belinda and Gary have a server on a DSL connection. They were told by
> me that certain admins were speaking out against them in a semi-
private
> place. I suggested to Belinda that she take a look at it (she had
> access). Next thing, I know uu.net told them to stop you (and frankly,
> they don't really have a wide range of peers to chose from) and you
were
> having all sorts of trouble over that.
>
> You still seem to have trouble over that. Gary can put whatever face
he
> wants on it and so can you, but knowing what I know, he had no choice
> other than to shut the server down or be depeered. So, while I'm sure
> you would like to have seen the server shut down, there are people who
> use DataBasix for something other than trolling and newsgroup
invasions.
>
Duuhhh. I was given an account expressly to invade and troll
alt.hackers.malicious...
But is ok when they do it, right? Just not when Dean does it?
> (Snips)
>
> And I know you're been getting cancelled now for trying to fuck with
> restricted European hieararchies. You can throw all the little temper
> tantrums you want and all, but there's already a change in how even the
> big providers handle usenet. Little toad and you have both tried
> posting to places where either Caputo isn't putting your posts into
> transit or several providers (supernews or newsguy, news.verison.net,
> and sol.net) are just dropping them.
>
> My bet's on Caputo just quietly letting something fall on the floor,
but
> I really don't know. I just think it's neat that some of these
attempts
> to fuck with other people's communications and freedom of association
> are finally being curbed.
>
> Not that you should lose any accounts over it or anything.
>
The best way to deal with speech that offends you is more speech, not
censorship.
And, by the way, why did Jet say you were Text Medium/Jack Webb?
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>
> ą wrote:
> >
> > Rebecca Ore wrote:
> > >
> > > little toad wrote:
> >
> > First off, Becca, LT publicly plonked you and you know it.
>
> How would I? I had her scored down in Gnus several months ago and
> didn't much pay attention to her. Not all plonks are public. And I'd
> got adaptive scoring turned on in Gnus, it does plonks of anything I
> mark read, even me sometimes.
Bullshit and evasion.
> > Every thing you have wrote is pure conjecture, hearsay and
> > intellectually dishonest - and you know it.
>
> Funny to see you going against little toad's wishes between the time I
> wrote that and the time. Yah, Dean, way to go.
What are you going on about now?
> You prove me so right, and I thought it would take longer, like a few
> weeks, before you were willing to hurt little toad to further your own
> agenda.
What the fuck are you going on about now?
What did I do to LT?
And what do you think my agenda is?
Snuh?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
> > The people who were going after her were not exactly honorable people.
> > I have had a person ask me for an account one week and then flame jet
> > the next (and not that long ago, either, this year).
> > ===
> >
> > I had always thought it was funny that people who flamed Jet couldn't
> > get an account with you.
>
> Most of them attacked jet after I turned them down. Funny about that.
Why are you so worried about her?
> > > I can sympathize with you, but you had to have seen
> > > Jason and Dean turn first on Belinda, then on Queenie and Tiernan,
> >
> > Proof of this, please.
>
> Belinda and Gary have a server on a DSL connection. They were told by
> me that certain admins were speaking out against them in a semi-private
> place. I suggested to Belinda that she take a look at it (she had
> access). Next thing, I know uu.net told them to stop you (and frankly,
> they don't really have a wide range of peers to chose from) and you were
> having all sorts of trouble over that.
Uh-uh.
Do you know that I made *one* single post via DB6 to AFU?
And that AFU's influence was so powerful that one post was enough to get
their panties in a wad.
Belinda made clear to me that there were other users that was part of
that complaint.
> You still seem to have trouble over that.
How is that?
> Gary can put whatever face he
> wants on it and so can you, but knowing what I know, he had no choice
> other than to shut the server down or be depeered. So, while I'm sure
> you would like to have seen the server shut down, there are people who
> use DataBasix for something other than trolling and newsgroup invasions.
He asked me to stop cascading outside of alt.snuh.
I did, I have others accounts I can do that with.
That wasn't why I lost my DB6 account.
> (Snips)
>
> And I know you're been getting cancelled now for trying to fuck with
> restricted European hieararchies.
You call posting "fucking"?
How?
> You can throw all the little temper
> tantrums you want and all,
Post proof.
You haven't backed up *any* of your assertions yet.
> but there's already a change in how even the
> big providers handle usenet.
What does this have to do with this conversation?
Are you trying to make like Sabu424 with Red Hot Insider News?
> Little toad and you have both tried
> posting to places where either Caputo isn't putting your posts into
> transit or several providers (supernews or newsguy, news.verison.net,
> and sol.net) are just dropping them.
Speak English, Becca.
> My bet's on Caputo just quietly letting something fall on the floor, but
> I really don't know.
I have been in contact with CC and he expressed no concerns about my
posting.
As far as I can see, all servers that don't accept cancels have all my
posts.
But we all know that you love to filter - maybe that's why you can't see
all my posts.
> I just think it's neat that some of these attempts
> to fuck with other people's communications and freedom of association
> are finally being curbed.
Speak English, Becca.
To me it sounds like you just said you're against free speech.
> Not that you should lose any accounts over it or anything.
I've not lost an account since AFU ended.
Sorry if that disappoints you.
>
> --
> Rebecca Ore
> mhm 29x7
Rebecca Ore
>
> Duuhhh. I was given an account expressly to invade and troll
> alt.hackers.malicious...
And to infiltrate one of the ahm inner circles (I think the guy has a
verizon account; I should check out his side of the story further some
day).
And Shiva and possibly one other person were given accounts to flame
me. I didn't go after them because of that. I went after them because
they were either running NewsAgent or supporting running it. Gary shit
a brick when he realized I was right and that my other abuse admin could
help him prove it.
And I've defended Gary when one of his putative friends said what he
*really* thought of flamers and Gary and stuff while flaming me. Oops
<giggle>
>
> But is ok when they do it, right? Just not when Dean does it?
Frankly, the alt.hackers.malicious regs didn't have the clout that the
folk who were getting pissed with snuh had.
The guy who aliased out paradoxa.ogoense.net in its last three days
because of IRS Agent had more clout than I did, only it sort of was
beside the point, and made for some amusement as he strutted and puffed
and I cut and pasted the shutdown command and mailed it to him, saying,
"well, all this has been interesting but as you can see, paradoxa, along
with IRS Agent, is off line now."
>
> The best way to deal with speech that offends you is more speech, not
> censorship.
If you have to be brief and striking and make a seriously good point
before the police come to talk to your employer, you'll write better,
and you'll only make statements you think are worth really risking stuff
for. We've always had the best literature in eras where the censorship
was just right, not too hot or too slack.
I'm not offended by Dean's 4,000ths repetition of his belief that Gary
hosed him -- it's just that when someone is a chronic liar, they also
tend to be boring. Lies and substatively the same repetitions can be
filtered without any loss of information.
Rebecca Ore
>
> That wasn't why I lost my DB6 account.
<Shrug>
>
> You call posting "fucking"?
Probably not a good word. Fucking is worth doing with the right
person. Posting to get cancelled is pretty dumb.
>
> How?
>
> > You can throw all the little temper
> > tantrums you want and all,
>
> Post proof.
You think they're big temper tantrums? I don't. Difference of opinion.
>
> I have been in contact with CC and he expressed no concerns about my
> posting.
<Shrug> Filters make it possible to be more tolerant these days.
>
> As far as I can see, all servers that don't accept cancels have all my
> posts.
Which means that Supernews or NewsGuy, news.verizon.net and Greco's
server farm all do accept cancels, only neither Supernews or NewsGuy do
accept cancels. Interesting. I don't see HC's fuckage on either of the
servers I have access to, either.
>
> But we all know that you love to filter - maybe that's why you can't see
> all my posts.
I'm not running a news server, Dean. This is a major DSL provider
that's fixing some things.
> I've not lost an account since AFU ended.
>
Good, Dean. And I've noticed you write more complete sentences these
days, too.
±
>
> ą wrote:
>
> >
> > That wasn't why I lost my DB6 account.
>
> <Shrug>
Then do the right thing and admit you're wrong.
Talk about trolled, if I did one percent of the things I've been accused
of I wouldn't have time to piss.
> > You call posting "fucking"?
>
> Probably not a good word. Fucking is worth doing with the right
> person. Posting to get cancelled is pretty dumb.
If our Dutch friends want to go through all the trouble to cancel all my
output at nl*, there's not much I can do about it.
There's a rule against *any* x-posting into nl*, but they've rarely
enforced it - until now.
> > How?
> >
> > > You can throw all the little temper
> > > tantrums you want and all,
> >
> > Post proof.
>
> You think they're big temper tantrums? I don't. Difference of opinion.
Where have I made a big fuss over those cancels?
There's this little Dutch man adim'ing his server that actually spends
the time each day to cancel my posts.
Looks like he's the one being trolled, 'eh? Why would that bother me?
> > I have been in contact with CC and he expressed no concerns about my
> > posting.
>
> <Shrug> Filters make it possible to be more tolerant these days.
Good.
What about your wild accusations?
> > As far as I can see, all servers that don't accept cancels have all my
> > posts.
>
> Which means that Supernews or NewsGuy, news.verizon.net and Greco's
> server farm all do accept cancels, only neither Supernews or NewsGuy do
> accept cancels. Interesting. I don't see HC's fuckage on either of the
> servers I have access to, either.
Which means that you were talking out your ass again.
> > But we all know that you love to filter - maybe that's why you can't see
> > all my posts.
>
> I'm not running a news server, Dean. This is a major DSL provider
> that's fixing some things.
Becca, I do not care that you can't read my posts.
> > I've not lost an account since AFU ended.
> >
>
> Good, Dean. And I've noticed you write more complete sentences these
> days, too.
Good.
I'm not the monster that you try to make me out to be.
In fact, I'm quite reasonable.
> --
> Rebecca Ore
> mhm 29x7
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
@verizon.net:
> hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
>
>>
>> Duuhhh. I was given an account expressly to invade and troll
>> alt.hackers.malicious...
>
> And to infiltrate one of the ahm inner circles (I think the guy has a
> verizon account; I should check out his side of the story further some
> day).
>
I was given a Databasix to infiltrate a.m.h.? Doesn't make any sense. Or
am I misundertanding you?
> And Shiva and possibly one other person were given accounts to flame
> me. I didn't go after them because of that. I went after them because
> they were either running NewsAgent or supporting running it. Gary
shit
> a brick when he realized I was right and that my other abuse admin
could
> help him prove it.
>
> And I've defended Gary when one of his putative friends said what he
> *really* thought of flamers and Gary and stuff while flaming me. Oops
> <giggle>
>
Gary: possibly the most inept flamer of all time.
>
>>
>> But is ok when they do it, right? Just not when Dean does it?
>
> Frankly, the alt.hackers.malicious regs didn't have the clout that the
> folk who were getting pissed with snuh had.
>
Aha. So it is not the actions, but the clout of the complainers.
> The guy who aliased out paradoxa.ogoense.net in its last three days
> because of IRS Agent had more clout than I did, only it sort of was
> beside the point, and made for some amusement as he strutted and puffed
> and I cut and pasted the shutdown command and mailed it to him, saying,
> "well, all this has been interesting but as you can see, paradoxa,
along
> with IRS Agent, is off line now."
>
>>
>> The best way to deal with speech that offends you is more speech, not
>> censorship.
>
> If you have to be brief and striking and make a seriously good point
> before the police come to talk to your employer, you'll write better,
> and you'll only make statements you think are worth really risking
stuff
> for. We've always had the best literature in eras where the censorship
> was just right, not too hot or too slack.
>
A rather sad defense of the worst aspects of society.
> I'm not offended by Dean's 4,000ths repetition of his belief that Gary
> hosed him -- it's just that when someone is a chronic liar, they also
> tend to be boring. Lies and substatively the same repetitions can be
> filtered without any loss of information.
±
>
>
> I'm not offended by Dean's 4,000ths repetition of his belief that Gary
> hosed him -- it's just that when someone is a chronic liar, they also
> tend to be boring. Lies and substatively the same repetitions can be
> filtered without any loss of information.
Why, Jack... I mean, Becca - you sound just like a UseNet newbie that
just showed up at UPA.
Did you post as Jack Webb, Becca?
You call me a chronic liar, yet every allegation you've thrown my way
today was unfounded.
>
> --
> Rebecca Ore
> mhm 29x7
Rebecca Ore
> Aha. So it is not the actions, but the clout of the complainers.
Yes. So, this is news to you?
>
> And, by the way, why did Jet say you were Text Medium/Jack Webb?
Did she? I didn't see this. She thought Dean had decided I was Text
Medium/Jack Webb at some point. Did they confuse each other? Sheesh.
All this over the two of them being confused. Like Leona not
understanding that people who snipe other people anonymously get awfully
upset about having people guess at their first names.
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
@verizon.net:
> hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
>>
>> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D4D7E90.71E9446
>
>> Aha. So it is not the actions, but the clout of the complainers.
>
> Yes. So, this is news to you?
>
No. Just stunningly hypocritical.
>>
>> And, by the way, why did Jet say you were Text Medium/Jack Webb?
>
> Did she? I didn't see this.
Did you not see it when I asked you the first time?
> She thought Dean had decided I was Text
> Medium/Jack Webb at some point. Did they confuse each other? Sheesh.
> All this over the two of them being confused. Like Leona not
> understanding that people who snipe other people anonymously get
awfully
> upset about having people guess at their first names.
>
Erm, she wasn't confused. She said we had outed you and qocaj. Very
definitvely. Authoritatively. You might want to check with her on her
confusion.
Rebecca Ore
>
> Rebecca Ore wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm not offended by Dean's 4,000ths repetition of his belief that Gary
> > hosed him -- it's just that when someone is a chronic liar, they also
> > tend to be boring. Lies and substatively the same repetitions can be
> > filtered without any loss of information.
>
> Why, Jack... I mean, Becca - you sound just like a UseNet newbie that
> just showed up at UPA.
Circa 1997, Dean, I was a total Usenet newbie who couldn't tell the
difference between the Cabal and the Stan Kallisch the Third's UDP
targets. Really.
>
> Did you post as Jack Webb, Becca?
No, Dean, I didn't post as Jack Webb. All of you were too tedious to
read and so I didn't until someone told me my name had been dragged into
this.
How did this happen that you got this wild hair up your butt? Is this
you honestly getting confused or is this your attempt to get me for
something else?
>
> You call me a chronic liar, yet every allegation you've thrown my way
> today was unfounded.
I didn't go to any great trouble of proving them, either. Anyone who
can believe I was Jack Webb isn't necessarily a logic-using human being.
--
Rebecca Ore
mhm 29x7
Dean of Subversive Arts and Foreign Affairs
Bungmunch University
Rebecca Ore
>
> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D4D8A79.62F70236
> @verizon.net:
>
> > hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
> >>
> >> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D4D7E90.71E9446
> >
> >> Aha. So it is not the actions, but the clout of the complainers.
> >
> > Yes. So, this is news to you?
> >
>
> No. Just stunningly hypocritical.
Really. Where have I said that life and abuse complaints were fair?
>
> >>
> >> And, by the way, why did Jet say you were Text Medium/Jack Webb?
> >
> > Did she? I didn't see this.
>
> Did you not see it when I asked you the first time?
Nope, most of this just looked like another tremendously boring snark
fest, and I marked a lot of it read without reading it. I read
alt.flame and the flonk by looking for people I do find interesting and
following what they're talking about. If there are more than say, 100
posts, I read about 20 and mark the others read automatically. Or just
mark all read if I've been busy doing other things.
>
> Erm, she wasn't confused. She said we had outed you and qocaj. Very
> definitvely. Authoritatively. You might want to check with her on her
> confusion.
If she did this, you surely can post the message ID. Verizon's server
has good retention -- and I think sexzilla's does, too.
anonyme
<littl...@this.is.invalid> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
>"anonyme" <ano...@meow.org> wrote in message
>news:jg0okuoog8ljpbvg9...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:11:10 -0500 I answered "little toad"
>> <littl...@this.is.invalid> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
>[.]
>
>> Personally, I'm not trying to defend anyone --
>
>no problem. i've never asked anyone to do so.
>
>in fact, i asked for the opposite to happen, but
>that is all i can do -- ask. i have no control
>over anyone's actions but my own. i own my own
>posts but i don't own anyone else's.
I try to respect honest requests.
>this is not a troll on _my_ part; somebody outed
>my first name. i have a very good idea how it
>all went down and who all was involved and how it
>has all snowballed into the even uglier mess that
>it is now. i meant what i said in my post: i'll
>not be speculating about the chain of events in
>public.
On a completely superficial level it might be entertaining but over
the long haul I will be more than happy not to see that.
>other than the scant few posts about this i've
>already made, i'll not be posting much of anything
>about it and i have NOT asked anyone else to post
>ANYTHING about it either.
I don't doubt you.
>ANYONE who is using ME to advanced ANY agenda is
>doing it on their own. i am not involved in any
>of that and i am not going to get involved in any
>of it either.
>
>if i want to say anything more than i already have,
>i will. i simply want it to go the fuck away.
Understandable.
>ALL of it.
>
>the things i read in here this morning DISGUSTED me.
>using people's children against them is despicable.
I see no good reason to go to the same lengths as the people I don't
respect.
>> I'm sure you can take
>> care of yourself
>
>this IS me taking care of myself. just because people
>don't see me being upset in RL and stuff does not mean
>that it is not happening.
I sincerely hope you aren't taking this off UseNet too much.
>i speak for myself. ANYONE who thinks they are speaking
>for me or who is making it look like they are speaking
>for me is sadly mistaken and they need to STOP DOING IT!
Address it in email?
>if people believe otherwise, i have no control over that.
>
>> I'm expressing my disgust for the outing scumbag.
>
>i very much appreciate that.
I would not have added my name to Dean's list if 'Jack' had not done
so and then followed it up with a completely ludicrous backpedal and a
multitude of lies.
I've only run across one other person in here that was capable of that
kind of sneaky, slithery mentally ill crapola; how expected that this
person was the loudest defender of 'Jack'.
>although i have said this privately to several people,
>i'll say it in public: outing outers does no one any
>favors.
It makes one not much better than the other.
I don't believe in netcopping either. Nor do I believe in 'using'
painful facts about people in any situation even if it's something
that's been discussed publically in the past.
I have done so myself before with Tommy, Wuwu and prolly others but I
discovered that I was hurting myself by doing so.
But these are my standards and I don't expect or hope that anyone else
would live up to them.
>i named this thread for a reason. too bad some people
>didn't get that, but i don't have any control over any
>of that.
Nope. Not that what one person might feel is best is necessarily what
someone else might believe.
>> >as you probably know, much like rape, outing is about
>> >power and about hurting others, and sometimes about
>> >revenge or a needing a feeling of superiority over others.
>> >most outers need to feel powerful. i'm not interested
>> >in feeding those needs. now, every time someone replies
>> >to those threads with my name in them, i see it over and
>> >over and over again and it's in google forever. that's
>> >not a good feeling for me, but i will survive it.
>
>now the same thing has happened to others, and whether
>they choose to believe it or not, my heart goes out
>to them for their loss and for having that loss used
>against them.
You are more compassionate than I. I feel for the people who used the
information, if you can grok that.
>shame on those who did it.
Possibly you can grok that.
jet
>Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D4D8A79.62F70236
>@verizon.net:
>
>> hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
>>>
>>> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D4D7E90.71E9446
>>
>>> Aha. So it is not the actions, but the clout of the complainers.
>>
>> Yes. So, this is news to you?
>>
>
>No. Just stunningly hypocritical.
>
>>>
>>> And, by the way, why did Jet say you were Text Medium/Jack Webb?
>>
>> Did she? I didn't see this.
>
>Did you not see it when I asked you the first time?
>
>> She thought Dean had decided I was Text
>> Medium/Jack Webb at some point. Did they confuse each other? Sheesh.
>> All this over the two of them being confused. Like Leona not
>> understanding that people who snipe other people anonymously get
>awfully
>> upset about having people guess at their first names.
>>
>
>Erm, she wasn't confused. She said we had outed you and qocaj. Very
>definitvely. Authoritatively. You might want to check with her on her
>confusion.
>
Rebecca Ore
>
> Rebecca Ore wrote:
> >
> > ą wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > That wasn't why I lost my DB6 account.
> >
> > <Shrug>
>
> Then do the right thing and admit you're wrong.
I consider that the witnesses of both parties in who did what when that
I've heard are both too unreliable to really take the matter out of the
proverbial cat box.
>
> Talk about trolled, if I did one percent of the things I've been accused
> of I wouldn't have time to piss.
If I cared about all the things people I've known want me to care about,
I wouldn't have time to write. And didn't for a while.
>
> > > You call posting "fucking"?
> >
> > Probably not a good word. Fucking is worth doing with the right
> > person. Posting to get cancelled is pretty dumb.
>
> If our Dutch friends want to go through all the trouble to cancel all my
> output at nl*, there's not much I can do about it.
>
> There's a rule against *any* x-posting into nl*, but they've rarely
> enforced it - until now.
You're known in admin circles as a problem child.
> > > Post proof.
> >
> > You think they're big temper tantrums? I don't. Difference of opinion.
>
> Where have I made a big fuss over those cancels?
Fussing about them at all is kinda kinda silly.
>
> There's this little Dutch man adim'ing his server that actually spends
> the time each day to cancel my posts.
Nah, Dean, it's automatic. Chron job or a bash or perl script.
> > <Shrug> Filters make it possible to be more tolerant these days.
>
> Good.
>
> What about your wild accusations?
You first. What gave you the idea that I had posted as Jack Webb or
Text Medium?
He who cast forth the first wild accusation, etc.
>
> > > As far as I can see, all servers that don't accept cancels have all my
> > > posts.
> >
> > Which means that Supernews or NewsGuy, news.verizon.net and Greco's
> > server farm all do accept cancels, only neither Supernews or NewsGuy do
> > accept cancels. Interesting. I don't see HC's fuckage on either of the
> > servers I have access to, either.
>
> Which means that you were talking out your ass again.
Supernews and NewsGuy filter. Neither accepts cancels. You don't have
that finely tuned understanding of the system that Brother Agent has.
He's found out how to avoid me by putting groups in the line that
neither 'Zilla or news.verizon.net carry and which if included causes
them to get dropped, the dwark.
>
> I'm not the monster that you try to make me out to be.
Dean, I didn't care one way or another until someone dragged me into
this one. And I've got two spools to check to see who said what first.
If this is you and jet feeding each other bullshit and speculation and
doing a lot of conclusion jumping this week, we'll see who said what
first, unless it was in email.
>
> In fact, I'm quite reasonable.
I'm just just.
Rebecca Ore
Quoting cut and pasted from Google, affinity answering Dean's
>
> How's that book coming along?
>
> Fuckhead.
>
ORE
true or false dean
headkase
Okay, so *that* gave you, jet, the idea that Dean thought Leona was me.
Um, when did headkase get involved in this and what does she say this
was all about? Otherwise, I may find it worth it to get the Altopia
account everyone seems to think I had and really show you what I can do
as a troll.
--
Rebecca Ore
mhm 29x7
Dean of Subversive Arts and Foreign Affairs
Bungmunch University
**And I'm giving up reading the Sunday NY Times for this**
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
> hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
>>
>> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D4D8A79.62F70236
>> @verizon.net:
>>
>> > hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:3D4D7E90.71E9446
>> >
>> >> Aha. So it is not the actions, but the clout of the complainers.
>> >
>> > Yes. So, this is news to you?
>> >
>>
>> No. Just stunningly hypocritical.
>
> Really. Where have I said that life and abuse complaints were fair?
>
>>
>> >>
>> >> And, by the way, why did Jet say you were Text Medium/Jack Webb?
>> >
>> > Did she? I didn't see this.
>>
>> Did you not see it when I asked you the first time?
>
> Nope, most of this just looked like another tremendously boring snark
> fest, and I marked a lot of it read without reading it. I read
> alt.flame and the flonk by looking for people I do find interesting and
> following what they're talking about. If there are more than say, 100
> posts, I read about 20 and mark the others read automatically. Or just
> mark all read if I've been busy doing other things.
>
It was at the bottom of a message you replied to, klutzy. Rather hard to
miss by accident... Nice try, though.
>>
>> Erm, she wasn't confused. She said we had outed you and qocaj. Very
>> definitvely. Authoritatively. You might want to check with her on her
>> confusion.
>
> If she did this, you surely can post the message ID. Verizon's server
> has good retention -- and I think sexzilla's does, too.
>
I am no one's lackey.
She said "how does outing Rebecca as Jack Webb, and QOCAJ as Julia
Robert's". Not "claiming", not "thinking". She stated flatly that you
both had been outed. Perhaps she can direct you to her post?
Surely, a leet haxorette such as yourself can look it up?
James McNamara
> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:3D4D947F...@verizon.net:
[...]
>> If she did this, you surely can post the message ID. Verizon's server
>> has good retention -- and I think sexzilla's does, too.
>
> I am no one's lackey.
You could have fooled me, waterboy.
> She said "how does outing Rebecca as Jack Webb, and QOCAJ as Julia
> Robert's". Not "claiming", not "thinking". She stated flatly that you
> both had been outed. Perhaps she can direct you to her post?
Embrace sarcasm, Jason. It wants to be your friend.
--
James McNamara
anonyme
<ogoen...@verizon.net> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
>little toad wrote:
>>
>> this is not a troll on _my_ part; somebody outed
>> my first name.
>
>A number of people just don't believe this.
And now you believe that this is somehow important.
>Tim Thorne's outed my last name. I've had a couple of other people
>threaten to netstalk me over dissing them; now, I've had someone one
>threaten to out me for the flimsiest of excuses. One, I don't know your
>real life details. As long as you're not actively doing something like
>running NewsAgent, I have utterly no interest in outing you. And, in
>fact, had you been running NewsAgent and had quit, I would protect you
>from being outed to the best of my ability (which is a bit less
>considerable than I'd want but probably more considerable than you
>realize).
<a host of trumpets blare>
>If I was going to nail you to the wall, I'd do it in my own name and I'd
>have a *damn* better reason to do it than you flamed and dissed me.
>
>> i have a very good idea how it
>> all went down and who all was involved and how it
>> has all snowballed into the even uglier mess that
>> it is now.
>
>Nothing like Dean spilling details about what he said happened to you,
>really, if it really happened.
It really is no wonder that Jet is your very bestest fwend.
Possibly you have better fronting skills. Up to this point, anyway.
>> i meant what i said in my post: i'll
>> not be speculating about the chain of events in
>> public.
>
>Funny thing about all this is that I had my domain listed at my real
>address all the time I was running a despamming cancel bot, while I was
>trolling HipCrime into revealing his source code,
Care to share your embarrassment over this particular failed 'troll'?
[covers gleeful mirth with 'concerned' expression]
> while I was fighting
>the net stalkers *I've* had to deal with, and so forth, I've never been
>outed
And here I thought you just dropped Tim's name (yet again) for
'outing' your last name.
> or even gotten harrassing phone calls I could distinguish from the
>usual random silly calls.
Of which I'm guessing you get plenty.
>Even while running a server that had IRS
>Agent as a user, I wasn't harrassed.
Because something happens to you, had it been based in reality, is
hardly grounds to reasonably expect, on the pretense that you are
capable of cogent thought, that it will occur the same way for someone
else, you self-absorbed mutant humanoid.
>Now that I'm hardly posting and
>don't run a cancelbot or a news server, Jason and Dean are looking for
>some excuse to threaten me over something I had nothing to do with in
>the first place. Just because I am jet's friend and was her news admin.
This is you exhibiting a well-developed persecution complex.
>> other than the scant few posts about this i've
>> already made, i'll not be posting much of anything
>> about it and i have NOT asked anyone else to post
>> ANYTHING about it either.
>>
>> ANYONE who is using ME to advanced ANY agenda is
>> doing it on their own. i am not involved in any
>> of that and i am not going to get involved in any
>> of it either.
>
>People who've picked major fights with friends over trifles have a bad
>habit of using all their friends in this week's fight. I've had someone
>call me to bitch about a guy and then try to get the same guy to attack
>me -- in RL. The guy and I finally had a chat about her and realized
>just how completely off the frigging wall she was.
It's about time you wised up to Jet's slimy ways.
Lol.
> If you've really been
>stalked and abused, I can sympathize with you, but you had to have seen
>Jason and Dean turn first on Belinda, then on Queenie and Tiernan, then
>on jet over something as trivial as her defense of someone issuing
>rmgroups (anyone can newgroup in alt.*; anyone can rmgroup). And you
>surely knew what they were capable of throwing out in a flame. And you
>have to know that just asking them to stop could have them turning on
>you. You're curbing their freedom of speech by that request, they could
>say.
>
>> now the same thing has happened to others, and whether
>> they choose to believe it or not, my heart goes out
>> to them for their loss and for having that loss used
>> against them.
>>
>> shame on those who did it.
>
>Indeed. The other shame is that they are claiming to have protected you
>against further outing by bringing throwing that in jet's face and by
>threatening to out people who are friends of jet's, without evidence
>that any of us knew any of your RL details, or were socking up, or
>anything.
>
>With somethings, it's better to be trolled and behave decently than to
>suspect a troll and behave badly. While I still don't believe your
>first name was really outed, I do believe that this all has become much
>uglier than you wanted it to be. And that you are sorry for that.
And with that, the amazing ego bubble drifted away, ever searching for
new plots to interject itself, in an endless quest to issue
pseudo-regal and self-involved edicts.
Rebecca Ore
Just a disinterested fuckhead who likes manipulating his friends, right.
>
> She said "how does outing Rebecca as Jack Webb, and QOCAJ as Julia
> Robert's". Not "claiming", not "thinking". She stated flatly that you
> both had been outed. Perhaps she can direct you to her post?
>
> Surely, a leet haxorette such as yourself can look it up?
I saw the earlier one. You all have been using "outing lt" as though
this meant really outing her by her real first name though it's become
obvious that this never happened, so why can't jet use your language in
a similiar way?
The earlier post that I cut and pasted from google implies someone
thought I was Jack Webb before this post of jet's.
Text Medium
Rebecca, I'm going to piggyback off your post to state certain facts as
emphatically as I can, one more time, for Jason, Dean, and all other
parties who seem so incredibly interested in trying to determine my own
r/l identity, which I, like Toad, have chosen to keep private:
I am not Rebecca Ore
I am not the QoCaJ
I am not Julia Roberts Teeth
I am not Optional Identity
I am not jet
I am not any other person posting here under any other name, past or
present.
I am not some well-known UPA person socked up to troll everyone.
I am a woman (one person only) posting here with "Text Medium" as my
nic, and I formerly used the nic "Jack Webb" here very briefly. I've
been posting here less than 2 months.
This is the last time I'm going to state these facts here.
Enough.
--
Shon'ai
Text Medium
I think anyone looking at the times of the posts you've been posting
from Verizon and the posts I've been making from Altopia in various
threads at the same times as your posts are appearing should be able to
definitively lay any lingering doubts to rest that we are *not* one and
the same person.
I'm Text Medium ("Shon'ai"), fomerly posting here for less than 2 months
as Jack Webb, and I'm not, and never have been Rebecca Ore.
I'm not a group of people, I'm one woman posting on behalf of myself and
of my own opinions only.
--
Shon'ai
Optional Identity
<ano...@meow.org> attempted to break Usenet by posting this in
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk :
>On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:33:12 GMT I answered Rebecca Ore
><ogoen...@verizon.net> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
>>little toad wrote:
>>>
<snip toady's whining bullshit>
<snip rebecca's interesting revelations about dean's motives>
<snip katie's drivel>
>>
>>Funny thing about all this is that I had my domain listed at my real
>>address all the time I was running a despamming cancel bot, while I was
>>trolling HipCrime into revealing his source code,
>
>Care to share your embarrassment over this particular failed 'troll'?
>
>[covers gleeful mirth with 'concerned' expression]
>
Still trying to pretend you are a player in a game you don't have clue
one about kooky?
Does allen let you run NA from his home?
Rebecca Ore
> I'm not a group of people, I'm one woman posting on behalf of myself and
> of my own opinions only.
Yes, but do you believe little toad is really female?
Optional Identity
hubcapdiamondstarhalo <SPAMj...@yahoo.comSPAM> attempted to break
Usenet by posting this in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk :
>
>I am no one's lackey.
>
Oh yes you are you brain dead fuck stick.
anonyme
<troll4U...@meow.org> from alt.fan.kate.
>On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:35:41 -0700, the notorious netabuser anonyme
><ano...@meow.org> attempted to break Usenet by posting this in
>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk :
>
>>On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:33:12 GMT I answered Rebecca Ore
>><ogoen...@verizon.net> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
>>>little toad wrote:
>>>>
><snip toady's whining bullshit>
>
><snip rebecca's interesting revelations about dean's motives>
>
><snip katie's drivel>
It is absolutely hilarious that I have the power to completely dictate
who your 'friends' are.
If I attacked Dean, I have no doubt that you'd be slurping up to him
within minutes.
You just tickle my funny bone to no end, Opie.
>>>Funny thing about all this is that I had my domain listed at my real
>>>address all the time I was running a despamming cancel bot, while I was
>>>trolling HipCrime into revealing his source code,
>>
>>Care to share your embarrassment over this particular failed 'troll'?
>>
>>[covers gleeful mirth with 'concerned' expression]
>>
>Still trying to pretend you are a player in a game you don't have clue
>one about kooky?
>
>Does allen let you run NA from his home?
Nice rant.-ObSessO
James McNamara
hubcapdiamondstarhalo <SPAMj...@yahoo.comSPAM> wrote:
> "James McNamara" <colonel_...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:aik6ib$dui
> $0...@pita.alt.net:
>
>> hubcapdiamondstarhalo <SPAMj...@yahoo.comSPAM> wrote:
[...]
>>> I am no one's lackey.
>>
>> You could have fooled me, waterboy.
>
> You are easily fooled, Senor Droll. By the way, you seem a mite peeved.
> What ever is the matter?
Peeved? Moi? Not at all, waterboy. Disgusted? Yes. Most certainly.
--
James McNamara
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
<bitchslap>
>> >>
>> >> Erm, she wasn't confused. She said we had outed you and qocaj.
>> >> Very definitvely. Authoritatively. You might want to check with
>> >> her on her confusion.
>> >
>> > If she did this, you surely can post the message ID. Verizon's
>> > server has good retention -- and I think sexzilla's does, too.
>> >
>>
>> I am no one's lackey.
>
> Just a disinterested fuckhead who likes manipulating his friends,
> right.
>
1. What friends?
2. What manipulation?
>>
>> She said "how does outing Rebecca as Jack Webb, and QOCAJ as Julia
>> Robert's". Not "claiming", not "thinking". She stated flatly that you
>> both had been outed. Perhaps she can direct you to her post?
>>
>> Surely, a leet haxorette such as yourself can look it up?
>
> I saw the earlier one. You all have been using "outing lt" as though
> this meant really outing her by her real first name though it's become
> obvious that this never happened, so why can't jet use your language
> in a similiar way?
>
Jet fucked up. Admit it.
> The earlier post that I cut and pasted from google implies someone
> thought I was Jack Webb before this post of jet's.
She merely confirmed it.
DOH!
And, hey. Give the account to someone else, like another clumsy oaf did
yesterday. That might work. Yeah! Maybe if the two accounts follow each
other up...?
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
Are you...FAT BELINDA BURNWHORE?
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
> Text Medium wrote:
Scabs of creation...
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
news:jedrku0ven5brlp9b...@4ax.com:
My my my. Such hostility! Such bitterness!
Why is everyone so bloody upset? Quit whining!
; )
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
$0...@pita.alt.net:
Not as disgusted as I was when I heard some things about you. ; )
James McNamara
> "James McNamara" <colonel_...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:aike6r$uth
> $0...@pita.alt.net:
[...]
>> Peeved? Moi? Not at all, waterboy. Disgusted? Yes. Most certainly.
>
> Not as disgusted as I was when I heard some things about you. ; )
*yawn*
--
James McNamara
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
$0...@pita.alt.net:
I mean, that was really nasty of you. But, you learned your lesson. We
all do.
Rebecca Ore
>
> Are you...FAT BELINDA BURNWHORE?
No, you are FAT BELINDA BURNWHORE, remember?
Rebecca Ore
>
> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:3D4DAC2D...@verizon.net:
>
> > Text Medium wrote:
>
> Scabs of creation...
Two of them. Wow. You finally admit there *are* two of us.
Maybe you're not completely stupid after all.
Optional Identity
>On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 08:18:09 +1000 I answered Optional Identity
><troll4U...@meow.org> from alt.fan.kate.
>>On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:35:41 -0700, the notorious netabuser anonyme
>><ano...@meow.org> attempted to break Usenet by posting this in
>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk :
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:33:12 GMT I answered Rebecca Ore
>>><ogoen...@verizon.net> from alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk.
>>>>little toad wrote:
>>>>>
>><snip toady's whining bullshit>
>>
>><snip rebecca's interesting revelations about dean's motives>
>>
>><snip katie's drivel>
>
>It is absolutely hilarious that I have the power to completely dictate
>who your 'friends' are.
>
>If I attacked Dean, I have no doubt that you'd be slurping up to him
>within minutes.
Try it, skanky, and see. Deano is nearly as insane as you.
Optional Identity
hubcapdiamondstarhalo <SPAMj...@yahoo.comSPAM> attempted to break
Usenet by posting this in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk :
>Optional Identity <troll4U...@meow.org> wrote in
>news:jedrku0ven5brlp9b...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:12:56 GMT, the notorious netabuser
>> hubcapdiamondstarhalo <SPAMj...@yahoo.comSPAM> attempted to break
>> Usenet by posting this in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk :
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I am no one's lackey.
>>>
>> Oh yes you are you brain dead fuck stick.
>>
>>
>
>My my my. Such hostility! Such bitterness!
>Why is everyone so bloody upset? Quit whining!
>
>
>; )
"DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO I AM NO-ONES PUPPETT WAA WAA WAA"
-Jason "fuckhead" christie.
Text Medium
Actually, yes, I do.
She exhibits a certain behavior pattern I've seen before in group
situations.
Not at all pleasant to watch, and fortunately it hasn't been often, but
it does strike a chord of familiarity (and disgust). Once seen it's not
likely to be forgotten, rather like an encounter with certain types of
insects. (I'd say a venomous snake, but I have known a couple of rather
nice snakes.) At least with critters, there's usually no artifice
involved.
I'm very lucky in that I haven't encountered very many women like Toad.
I'm still open to sincerity.
If I'm wrong about Toad's gender, then IHBT. <shrug>
--
Shon'ai
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
> hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you...FAT BELINDA BURNWHORE?
>
> No, you are FAT BELINDA BURNWHORE, remember?
>
You are so clever!
Optional Identity
<ogoen...@verizon.net> attempted to break Usenet by posting this in
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk :
>Text Medium wrote:
>
>> I'm not a group of people, I'm one woman posting on behalf of myself and
>> of my own opinions only.
>
>Yes, but do you believe little toad is really female?
A boy named Sue?
Text Medium
> --
> Rebecca Ore
> mhm 29x7
I wouldn't bet the house on that.
--
Shon'ai
headkase
> Rebecca Ore wrote:
and i bet
that you are not spooge either
headkase
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
Never really expected a decent post from you, did I? But this is one of
the weaker ones, yet.
hubcapdiamondstarhalo
Said the eternal followup who got Jet all pissed on...
jet
>Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in news:3D4DD433.1BE352C5
>@verizon.net:
>
>> hubcapdiamondstarhalo wrote:
>>>
>>> Rebecca Ore <ogoen...@verizon.net> wrote in
>>> news:3D4DAC2D...@verizon.net:
>>>
>>> > Text Medium wrote:
>>>
>>> Scabs of creation...
>>
>> Two of them. Wow. You finally admit there *are* two of us.
>>
>> Maybe you're not completely stupid after all.
>>
>
>I admit nothing.
>
--
jet mhm 32x30 |
wee saul disciple #32 |
BBH7 |
Cohort #18 |
ich bin ein meower |
Text Medium
Dang, I forgot to mention him on the list of who I'm not!
Thanks for the reminder.
You win, I'm not.
--
Shon'ai
Text Medium
D'oh!
<grins>
--
Shon'ai
Julia Roberts' Teeth
wrote:
Of course, you're me. Think about it. You have a SuperNews account. I
have a SuperNews account. You have an Altopia account. I have an
Altopia account. I think it's pretty obvious. :)
> I am not Optional Identity
> I am not jet
> I am not any other person posting here under any other name, past or
> present.
> I am not some well-known UPA person socked up to troll everyone.
>
> I am a woman (one person only) posting here with "Text Medium" as my
> nic, and I formerly used the nic "Jack Webb" here very briefly. I've
> been posting here less than 2 months.
>
> This is the last time I'm going to state these facts here.
>
> Enough.
--
This message is encrypted with ROT-26 technology.
headkase
>
> A boy named Sue?
>
>
i love the *man in black*
he is like one of the coolest people alive today
if he still did tours
i would be there bells on
headkase