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rem8...@aol.com

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A COMPLETELY NEW Economic System COMING SOON WORLDWIDE

Update from The REAL Galactic Federation and The Spiritual Hierarchy
August 3, 2004 8 Ahau, 8 Pop, 13 Eb
Communicated thru Sheldan Nidle of The Planetary Activation Organization
http://www.paoweb.com/updates.htm

Selamat Jarin! We come, dear Hearts with more to discuss with you.
As we move the present difficulties toward solution, it is important
not to lose sight of the enormous implications of what is being
accomplished. Our Earth allies have set up various financial programs
containing vast funds. These monies are intended not only to
redistribute the wealth of your world, but also to change the direction
in which your global society is headed. The economic 'squeezing' of
your underdeveloped nations by the predatory financial policies of the
developed countries has burdened them with an ever-increasing debt.
This debt causes political instability and increasing corruption in
these nations. This encourages the spread of chronic diseases which are
approaching pandemic proportions in parts of Africa, the Americas,
Europe, and Asia. Starvation and violence are, as a result, on the
increase throughout these regions. Something needs to be done to stop
these conditions from growing at exponential rates.

The accepted solution is to 'turn off' the debt squeeze in these
developing countries. This debt-forgiveness program also needs to be
tied into the releasing of funds for education, housing, and the
development of sanitation, drainage, and irrigation to modern levels.
Moreover, the diversity of cultures and languages necessitates local
administration, and these programs are therefore designed to stimulate
the thriving of indigenous agriculture and trade, to contain and cure
disease, and to promote the well-being and prosperity of all. The
citizens of this globe are no longer to suffer nightmare-like
existences. Your global community urgently needs to forge a cooperative
web of support to enhance human life everywhere and to restore Mother
Earth and her eco system. This 'safety net' is what the redistribution
of wealth and the new world economic and financial systems are all
about. These massive debt-forgiveness programs are set up to enrich the
quality of life for everyone.

The intention is to establish a world in which each person
receives education, sufficient income, and the opportunity to be
employed in the promotion of their natural talents and creativity in a
way that truly brings them great inner joy. This proposal is not as
overwhelming as it may at first appear to many of you. A number of task
forces set up by our Earth allies and us have created a detailed
program for surmounting the logistics involved and for marshalling the
required resources. The organization for expediting all this is now in
place. All that remains is to announce publicly what has been decided
upon. We intend to have the global life net and its immense resources
in place shortly after our presence is formally announced. Prior to
that, initial funding to designated individuals around the globe will
start these proceedings off, accompanied by an operation by our Earth
allies to change the leadership of a number of major political regimes.
This move is essential to making your world more receptive to these
plans and to what lies ahead.

As these plans take effect, the world as you know it will be
turned upside down (or more properly, the right way up!). The extent of
what is planned is prodigious, yet it can indeed be accomplished quite
swiftly. What has been preventing this up until now has been the
policies of the 'powers-that-be'. Now these individuals and groups are
to no longer obstruct the welfare of this planet and her peoples. The
'quiet revolution' will end their interference and transform how
government operates. Moreover, your Ascended Masters will introduce you
to more mature moral precepts that expand upon what is at present known
to you. This will enable you to come together as one planetary people
and to end the many divisions instigated long ago by your former off-
world masters, the Anunnaki. Your Ascended Masters' messages of hope,
Love, and unity can now be widely broadcast to you. They can then make
profound revisions to your major theological texts, which will then be
able to uplift and inspire with their messages of Love and joy, as was
their original intent.

As all this takes effect, you will enjoy a great, mutually shared
abundance. Sharing the initial distribution of wealth will confer a
large moral responsibility upon those few that first receive it. All of
you need to perceive these great sums of money as a blessing to your
world. Use this wealth to set up humanitarian trusts and foundations
and for funding other philanthropic endeavors. Your purpose is to
circulate this money as quickly as possible among those who have the
welfare of their fellow man at heart. But do not set the qualifying
criteria too high; it is crucial that you be guided by your heart in
these matters and that you never forget the spiritual opportunities
available to one who has at his disposal such great wealth. You are
each to be enriched by these gifts, but so also are your fellows. Your
gifting programs are the initial steps in a drive to end the poverty,
ignorance, and strife that has dominated your world for eons. The time
has come for a new reality, and you are to play a part in this sacred
process.

A completely new economic system is to be instituted, which will
begin by canceling all individual and national debt. Such an 'unlikely'
measure is essential if this new system is to start off with a clean
slate. Much of the old system is predicated on fiat (valueless) money
and fraudulent paper contracts intended to enrich the few. This is why
no vestige of the old system is to be carried over into the new. Credit
will be strictly regulated and will be based upon a currency that has a
stable and non-inflatable value. Precious metals will therefore become
the origin of all wealth. However, this financial abundance is in fact
only a stepping-stone toward overhauling your monetary system. The goal
is of course, ultimately, the true abundance of human potential.

As this abundance takes hold, the creativity and potential of the
growing planetary life web will become the source of real wealth.
Developing new ideas and technology and nurturing all forms of life
will take on profound implications. The welfare of Mother Earth and the
global web of life will replace the concept of barter and exchange, and
the use of money will quickly fade. Spiritual concepts and their
related technology will flood through this global web, providing each
individual with all her/his needs and wants. Your creative potential
and your natural nurturing abilities will at last begin to blossom.
Unfettered by the limitations of your present cognitive and material
impediments, your angelic capabilities will be able to fully manifest.
The new economic system will act as a catalyst for this flowering of
human potential, and you can then truly prepare yourselves for full
consciousness.
[ I believe that the need for money will soon be REPLACED with
Star-Trek-type REPLICATORS, FREE-ENERGY Technologies, etc.. R.E.M.]

In short, great shifts in your reality are coming at you from many
directions at once. The work of our Earth allies has prepared the stage
upon which your new world will take form. Our part is simply to support
their magnificent efforts and to offer advice when needed. Now we have
reached the point where a number of these epoch-making projects are
ready to see the light of day. This continuously excites us, and we
feel that the impetus provided by our new action committee is working
miracles. Their recent activities are shortly to deliver some amazing
results, as ever, in the fullness of divine right time. As you look
forward to these adventures, never lose sight of the divine objective
in all this: the coming, in full force, of the Light to your world and
your return to full consciousness. This is the essential reason for
your first contact. Remember, Together, We are Victorious!

Today, we have updated you on what is happening on your world. As
you can see, the time for celebration draws closer with each passing
day. We are likewise greatly encouraged by what is occurring. Very
soon, some incredible events are to manifest. We ask that you continue
to be committed to and focused upon your inevitable victory. We now
take our leave. Blessings, dear Ones! Know in your Heart of Hearts that
the perpetual Supply and infinite Abundance of Heaven is indeed Yours!
Selamat Gajun! Selamat Kasijaram! (Sirian for Be One! and Be Blessed in
Love and Joy!)

Planetary Activation Organization
http://www.paoweb.com

This copy was reposted by Robert E. McElwaine
PAO Member
Eckankar Initiate
B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
http://members.aol.com/rem460
Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS

See also http://members.aol.com/rem547/economic.htm ,
http://members.aol.com/rem547/energy.htm ,
http://members.aol.com/rem547/federatn.htm ,
http://members.aol.com/rem460/galacfed.txt ,
http://www.disclosureproject.org .

P.S.: PASS IT ON !
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Dorothy

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Aug 17, 2004, 8:47:03 PM8/17/04
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On 17 Aug 2004 14:03:44 -0700, rem8...@aol.com wrote:

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> A COMPLETELY NEW Economic System COMING SOON WORLDWIDE

Yeah right. Here the deal on the world economic system:

1. One world govt with countries as states. World council representative of
all states. World government provides all health care, insurance, public
assistance and free education to everyone.

2. One world currency and one world bank with no owners.

3. Cap on personal income.

4. International law forbidding aggression among states.

5. International science and technology center responsible for making sure
all knowledge is dispersed to everyone.


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"Who does Not Know the Truth, is simply a Fool...
Yet who Knows the Truth and Calls it a Lie, is a Criminal."
- In "Galileo Galilei" by Berthold Brecht (1898-1956)
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Robert J. Kolker

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Aug 17, 2004, 9:26:39 PM8/17/04
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Dorothy wrote:
>
> Yeah right. Here the deal on the world economic system:
>
> 1. One world govt with countries as states. World council representative of
> all states. World government provides all health care, insurance, public
> assistance and free education to everyone.
>
> 2. One world currency and one world bank with no owners.

No owners but managers who become the de fact owners. Someone has to be
driving the bus.


>
> 3. Cap on personal income.
>
> 4. International law forbidding aggression among states.

Any central government strong enough to keep the peace is strong enough
to enslave the weak. Be prepared for disappointment.


>
> 5. International science and technology center responsible for making sure
> all knowledge is dispersed to everyone.

Who shall pay for all this goodness if income is capped?

Bob Kolker

Courageous

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Aug 17, 2004, 11:20:30 PM8/17/04
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>3. Cap on personal income.

Except in nations that aren't interested, which will
decimate all the others economically. You'd think the
communists would have learned their lesson by now.
Take one Germany, same people, same culture, history,
language, and eductation. Divide it down the middle.

On one side, put the free market. The other side,
communism. On one side, prosperity, happiness, and
freedom. The other misery, despair, tyranny, and a
people so desperately desiring to escape one has to
put up a wall with machine guns and razor wire to
keep them from doing so.

In the real world, you'll never get any closer to a
controlled scientific experiment.

C//

Dorothy

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Aug 18, 2004, 12:06:48 AM8/18/04
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Sorry I don't buy any of the above. For example -- I lived in a foreign
country (20 years ago) where there were still aborigines in the mountains --
they were isolated. There were thousands of them, all living in peace
without war -- in commune style. I was able to visit their society before
it became 'cultured'. They were the most joyous, happy people -- caring and
sharing with each other. They had no problems until money was introduced to
their society by the Catholic missionaries.

I'm a true believer in REAL communism -- living together for the common good
and survival of each other -- in joy and peace and equality for everyone.

I will maintain forever that the real problem on this planet is economics
and those who have trying to get more than they need while taking from those
who are needy.

Sorry, but if you look at the world, that is PRECISELY what is happening.

Besides, if one has everything they need to survive and be happy, why do
they need MORE?

Dorothy

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Aug 18, 2004, 12:10:22 AM8/18/04
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 03:20:30 GMT, Courageous <dont...@spam.com> wrote:

>
>>3. Cap on personal income.

I also forgot to mention one point: if the sum of all the world's money was
added together and equally divided among each man, woman and child, each of
us would have an annual income of over a million dollars. So a family of 4
would have an annual income of 4 million.

This is how FAR OUT OF WACK the distribution of wealth is on this planet --
and it IS the main problem.

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Dorothy

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Aug 18, 2004, 1:31:32 AM8/18/04
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:26:39 GMT, "Robert J. Kolker"
<robert...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Dorothy wrote:
>>
>> Yeah right. Here the deal on the world economic system:
>>
>> 1. One world govt with countries as states. World council representative of
>> all states. World government provides all health care, insurance, public
>> assistance and free education to everyone.
>>
>> 2. One world currency and one world bank with no owners.
>
>No owners but managers who become the de fact owners. Someone has to be
>driving the bus.

There could be managers who are not allowed by law to become owners.

>> 3. Cap on personal income.
>>
>> 4. International law forbidding aggression among states.
>
>Any central government strong enough to keep the peace is strong enough
>to enslave the weak. Be prepared for disappointment.

That's not the case using the USA as an example, each state looks out for
their own interests in accordance with federal law.

>> 5. International science and technology center responsible for making sure
>> all knowledge is dispersed to everyone.
>
>Who shall pay for all this goodness if income is capped?

Everyone, by a percentage.
>
>Bob Kolker

Robert J. Kolker

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Aug 18, 2004, 8:48:05 AM8/18/04
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Dorothy wrote:

> Sorry I don't buy any of the above. For example -- I lived in a foreign
> country (20 years ago) where there were still aborigines in the mountains --
> they were isolated. There were thousands of them, all living in peace
> without war -- in commune style.

And they were all covered with shit. The counted funny too. One, Two,
Three, Many.

Bob Kolker

Robert J. Kolker

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Aug 18, 2004, 8:49:45 AM8/18/04
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Dorothy wrote:

>>>5. International science and technology center responsible for making sure
>>>all knowledge is dispersed to everyone.
>>
>>Who shall pay for all this goodness if income is capped?

>
>
> Everyone, by a percentage.

And suppose they don't want to pay. Aha! Now we see the violence
inherent in the system Oi! Oi! Help, I'm being repressed!

Bob Kolker


Albert

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Aug 18, 2004, 8:12:52 AM8/18/04
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Robert J. Kolker wrote:
<snip>

> And suppose they don't want to pay. Aha! Now we see the violence
> inherent in the system Oi! Oi! Help, I'm being repressed!

Bob, considers it immoral to put a limit on greed.


--
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the
range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally
impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
-- George Orwell as Syme in "1984"

Albert

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Aug 18, 2004, 8:22:30 AM8/18/04
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Courageous wrote:
<snip>

> On one side, put the free market. The other side,
> communism. On one side, prosperity, happiness, and
> freedom. The other misery, despair, tyranny, and a
> people so desperately desiring to escape one has to
> put up a wall with machine guns and razor wire to
> keep them from doing so.
>
> In the real world, you'll never get any closer to a
> controlled scientific experiment.

Odd use of 'controlled': "On one side, put a 'free market'
subsidized by the US. The other side, put Stalin and a fake
communism. On one side, the kind of prosperity, happiness and
freedom inherent in a few capitalists owning 90% supported by
wage-slaves. And the other a few commisars controlling 90%
supported by wage-slaves suffering misery, despair, tyranny..."

Yep, that's really scientific.

Albert

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Aug 18, 2004, 8:24:24 AM8/18/04
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Robert J. Kolker wrote:
<snip>
> And they were all covered with shit. The counted funny too. One, Two,
> Three, Many.

You're projecting again, Bob.

Ron Peterson

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Aug 18, 2004, 11:53:01 AM8/18/04
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In sci.econ Dorothy <n...@email.plz> wrote:

> I also forgot to mention one point: if the sum of all the world's money was
> added together and equally divided among each man, woman and child, each of
> us would have an annual income of over a million dollars. So a family of 4
> would have an annual income of 4 million.

The currency supply for the US was 569 billion in 1999. That is about
$2,000 per person.

--
Ron

Robert J. Kolker

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Aug 18, 2004, 12:28:01 PM8/18/04
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Ron Peterson wrote:

Don't confuse her with facts.

Bob Kolker

Message has been deleted

Dorothy

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Dorothy

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:49:45 GMT, "Robert J. Kolker"
<robert...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm being repressed!

To death. You've got less than 100 years, make the best of it.

No one gets out of there alive.

Courageous

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Aug 18, 2004, 11:18:22 PM8/18/04
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>> added together and equally divided among each man, woman and child, each of
>> us would have an annual income of over a million dollars.

<dumb blond>

"Let's just print it and give everyone ten million."

</dumb blond>

Courageous

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Aug 18, 2004, 11:36:00 PM8/18/04
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>The currency supply for the US was 569 billion in 1999. That is about
>$2,000 per person.

Misrepresentation is a six syllable word for "lie".

Or maybe I'm mistaken. Perhaps you're just uninformed
and don't actually understand how our monetary system
works. "Money" does not equal "hard currency".

The person you are responding to is an idiot, of course.
Neither here nor there.

For extra credit, try to explain the total market cap
of the NYSE.

C//

Dorothy

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Aug 19, 2004, 12:05:39 AM8/19/04
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You mean let's borrow 100 billion and give it to Bechtel and Lockheed!

Courageous

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Aug 19, 2004, 12:15:37 AM8/19/04
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>><dumb blond>
>>"Let's just print it and give everyone ten million."
>></dumb blond>

>You mean ...

No, I don't mean that! That's stupid, too. But not _nearly_
as stupid, of course.

C//

Dorothy

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Aug 19, 2004, 12:18:21 AM8/19/04
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ROFL. How about we just give Bechtel and Lockheed the pins numbers to our
ATM cards. If we start now, we'll have the debit ow4d to them paid off, in
say, a couple of thousand years!

<and no, I'm not a believer in trickle down economics, it's more like a
drool down>

Courageous

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Aug 19, 2004, 12:21:05 AM8/19/04
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>ROFL. How about we just give Bechtel and Lockheed the pins numbers to our
>ATM cards. If we start now, we'll have the debit ow4d to them paid off, in
>say, a couple of thousand years!

Redistribution just adds to monetary velocity. IOW, it's
_spent_, most often. That being the case, where's it go?
I could go on, but nevermind.

C//

Dorothy

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Aug 19, 2004, 12:46:26 AM8/19/04
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Hell cut out the middle man, and set up an express way directly into
Bechtel's bank accounts -- close the US treasury.

Mr. 4X

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rem8...@aol.com wrote in message
news:5525d892.04081...@posting.google.com:

>>
> A COMPLETELY NEW Economic System COMING SOON WORLDWIDE
>
> Update from The REAL Galactic Federation and The Spiritual Hierarchy
> August 3, 2004 8 Ahau, 8 Pop, 13 Eb
> Communicated thru Sheldan Nidle of The Planetary Activation Organization
> http://www.paoweb.com/updates.htm
>
> Selamat Jarin! We come, dear Hearts with more to discuss with you.

This usually means that you can ignore the rest of the message, since the
events predicted will NOT happen.

<FLUSH>

Freeza Frost

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Aug 21, 2004, 9:29:26 PM8/21/04
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hope the pay cap isn't under 100,000 a year or over 150,000

~Freeza Frost

Freeza Frost

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Aug 21, 2004, 9:34:25 PM8/21/04
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free market creates anarchy! on paper, communism is SUPPOSED to be a
sharing community with no need for money! sounds great? but power
ccorrupts! no matter what system u have, it's not as good as a
god-governed theocracy!

~Freeza Frost

Michael C De Vito

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Aug 23, 2004, 1:51:45 AM8/23/04
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Can't make a living on the highway, cause the cars go by to fast!
DUHHHYYY!

Michael C De Vito

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Aug 23, 2004, 1:53:16 AM8/23/04
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Will there be WELFARE?

Michael C De Vito

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Aug 23, 2004, 1:56:40 AM8/23/04
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The income that isn't capped DUHHYY!

Michael C De Vito

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Aug 23, 2004, 2:01:20 AM8/23/04
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Hope this new economic starts at my house!

The enemy bushite lies, cheats, and steals from sworn American values

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/ / Sergio was going to issue a statement criticizing
the killing by US soldiers of the Reuters cameraman
Mazen Dana as he filmed an incident outside Abu Ghraib
prison. \ \


Annan knows that the bushites refused to warn the UN
that they were made privy to the war crime before it
happened according to Chalabi. But Annan, as usual,
refuses to stand as a man representing our victimized
human species, or his so called friend. With a friend
like Anan, you don't need an enemy, for he'll watch you
robbed or murdered, and speak nothing for our lost
loves. Where is the world's outcry for the evil
anti-Christ disciples dropping cluster dud land mines
throughout residential districts? The raping and
torture of women and children by the bushite savages
deemed by the actual enemy of GOD anti-Christ demon
George W. Bush Jr. as, lawlessly "unaccountable"?
Where is Annan's outrage over the billions, like
humanitarian aid STOLEN from all Iraq by the bushite
enemies of humanity labeled by themselves as pro-Iraqi?
Who wouldn't kill George W. Bush Jr. on sight, for
spreading his lies on Art Bell of criminal propaganda to
sacrifice worthless American soldiers irrationally? A
reminder: the dumfuk bushite soldiers actually die as
traitors taking down the sparse but true, American
Patriot soldiers stuck in the wrong place warring the
innocent without the available time to get a good shot
at bush, rumsfeld, negroponte, buford blount, steven
russell, mattis, bremer, or evil thomas foley.


I am,

Johnny Wizard


--

<<http://wsws.org/articles/2004/may2004/wedd-21m.shtml>>

/ / "If they killed foreign fighters, why don't they show us
the bodies? If they suspected foreign fighters were here,
why didn't they come to arrest them, instead of using
this huge force?" \ \

http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=24182

/ / The US military said a number of 230 kilogram
(500-pound) bombs had been dropped on "known enemy
locations" near the city. \ \

I hate the evil ungodly bushite like any real man would.


--

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2004/190804militarydoctors.htm

/ / A military police officer reported a medic inserted
an intravenous tube into the corpse of a detainee who
died while being tortured to create evidence that he was
alive at the hospital, Miles said. \ \

--


/ / Wherever possible, the administration cloaks its
attack on the environment in soothing words like
"healthy forests initiative" and "clear skies
initiative," while delivering the opposite. \ \


/ / "the EPA added reassuring language and deleted words
of caution" after it was urged to do so by the White
House Council on Environmental Quality. \ \


/ / "Much of
the exposure that caused these illnesses, sadly, could
have been avoided if our federal government had
responded to the crisis…with proper concern for the
people exposed." \ \


--

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0819-06.htm

/ / Protecting the identities of confidential sources is
a journalistic right that should be recognized by the
courts, but only when it protects genuine
whistle-blowers, not when it shields government
wrongdoing. \ \

/ / Just like Johnny would proudly serving for the
innocent as God is my sworn witness and testifier,
killing lawless evil bushite is a true freedom fighter's
pleasure! \ \


/ / While acknowledging that Doe's contract allows the
military to retain him in the event of war, the filing
notes that "Congress has not declared a war in Iraq or
elsewhere", which makes involuntary retentions illegal. \ \

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/17/nyregion/17speech.html?pagewanted=print&position=

/ / Coincidentally, his remarks followed a protest by a
small group of police officers who were told to move
away from the doorway of John Jay College of Criminal
Justice in Manhattan or risk arrest. \ \

--

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5724143/

/ / "John the Baptist, who was just a figure from the
Gospels, now comes to life," \ \

--

/ / Linda Theis told The Washington Post Wednesday, that
there's "insufficient staff" in the government or at
Halliburton to review the numerous bills. \ \

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


--


/ / US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld swears
Washington has nothing to do with the arrest warrant
against Muqtada: this is "Iraqi justice" in action.
Wrong. The Iraqi Jurists Association published a
statement on Wednesday saying that the arrest warrant is
"illegal and based on a lie ... [...] \ \

--

From Johnny's "the Real Deal"

/ / America is still a work in progress, alive, willing,
and almost able to defend by rule of individual rights by
wHoly miGht. It makes absolutely no difference on what
you think of me personally, (if you've finalized an
estimation), I mean it, no difference. There are ideas
as this Universe living would concur upon, timelessly,
and see?, I know this as the Son of Man of anyone
already, always have. (I don't need people to tell me
I'm great as the Wisdom of Ages, I just need a few
dollars to tide me over until I can get a steady
paycheck.) I have no intentions of ever forcing the
world against our ability, or getting elected as King
for being just myself as a none-partisan, soft-spoken
well mannered businessman. I am the actual make believe
Lord and Creator of the bushite cesspool labeled
America, and thanks for nothing is not what I'm
demanding. / /

--


http://www.sptimesrussia.com/archive/times/995/opinion/o_13281.htm

/ / Yet the incident was buried by American brass, who
repudiated their own soldiers - and backed the Iraqi
torturers. \ \

--

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html

/ / That upon returning to Fort Bragg from Tora Bora,
the same Special Operations troops who had been stood
down from capturing bin Laden, suffered a unusual spree
of murder/suicides, is nothing more than a series of
senseless tragedies. \ \

--

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2004%20opinions/August/15%20o/The%20Sor
rows%20Of%20Florida,%20Najaf%20and%20Iraq%20By%20Sam%20Hamod.htm

/ / Also, American TV does not tell you that the Polish
and Sadr had worked out a security agreement and peace
in Najaf, until the American troops came in to "wipe
Sadr and his Medhdi army out", under the command of GW
Bush, Rumsfeld, Negroponte and their puppet, Allawi.
Instead of telling us the truth, our TV [...] \ \

--

The Ultimate Stupidity
The Attack on Najaf
http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp08162004.html

/ / Oppose the oppressor and support the oppressed.
Imam Ali, Last Will and Testament (39 AH; 661 CE) \ \


--

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=552289

/ / As journalists protested, the lieutenant said above
the hubbub: "We are going to open fire on this hotel.
We are going to smash it up. I will kill you all. You
did this all to yourselves." In a threat that did not
immediately appear to have been carried out, he said
four snipers would be positioned on the roof of the
police station to fire at any journalists who left the
hotel. \ \


/ / Scuffling broke out as a hotel employee angrily
remonstrated with the policemen saying "Are you Iraqis?
You are police but you have no right to do this." The
police then drove off, stopping 300 metres down the road
and fired warning shots in the direction of the hotel. \ \


--

http://context.themoscowtimes.com/story/135424/

/ / Having stopped the torture, the Oregon soldiers
asked for further orders: What should they do now? The
request was relayed far up the chain of command, and the
answer came back from on high: Go away - and give the
prisoners back to the men who were torturing them. Give
back the weapons, give back the torture tools, stop
helping the prisoners, mind your own business.

And that was it. The American troops, outraged but
obedient, withdrew. The prisoners - the wounded men,
the bleeding children - were bound up again and shoved
back into the stinking pits. Why? It's simple.
Because the Iraqi security goons were doing exactly what
George W. Bush wanted them to do. \ \

/ / Harkin said. "Those of us who served and those of
us who went in the military don't like it when someone
like a Dick Cheney comes out and he wants to be tough.
Yeah, he'll be tough. He'll be tough with somebody
else's blood, somebody else's kids. But not when it was
his turn to go." \ \


--

http://rense.com/general56/plan.htm

/ / Of course, for the average Iraqi or Palestinian, the
assertion that the Bushcons are "on the side" of the
Arab people-as they kill them in the tens of
thousands-is nothing less than absurd. \ \


--

Don't just show 'em the door – let's get the booty back!
http://whereisthemoney.org/

--

/ / The correspondent for Abu Dhabi TV reported that US
F-16 fighter bombers dropped 1,000-pound high-explosive
bombs on the area. Local eyewitnesses reported enormous
damage to the whole area as a result of the air raids.
Tongues of flame and clouds of thick smoke rose into the
air covering a vast area of the city as a result of the
American attacks. \ \

/ / The fact remains that Bush hasn't a damn thing to
run on except the war on terrorism. One week he's
ranting about how much safer we all are, and then a week
later that al Qaeda boogeyman is coming to get us. \ \

Traitor evil lawless bushite enemy, die for us instead
of our good families of innocent men women and children.

/ / Except [bushite] Iraq will execute not only those
convicted of murder but anyone found guilty of either
distributing drugs or the handily catch-all crime of
"endangering national security". \ \

Allawi most definitely qualifies, like so those bushites
who rape torture and steal from Iraq would also for sure
be counted, but how about the general ignorant ungodly
bushite like American censor Art Bell, who support
through intentional deceitful censorship, sacrificing
America's sons and daughters for global lawless criminal
impropriety against Humanity's interest as Iraq's
National Security?, Infinite Justice, and the God from
the books on practically everything? Do the ungodly
evil disciples of the enemy anti-Christ, Hebrew's "666",
George Bush Jrs, think their gonna get away to deceive
true American will power, with their wicked evil lies to
steal life from US as the innocent, and bring suffering
against God as our enemies?, falling our poor dead
bodies without any remediate retribution from ourselves
as God's true to Word believers? I don't think so.

Read carefully:


US warns Iraqis to get out of central Najaf

/ / Colonel Anthony Haslam, commanding officer of the
11th Marine Expeditionary Unit. "There will be no
sanctuary for thugs and criminals in Najaf." \ \


/ / One Pentagon memorandum, for example, asserted that
the president, in his role as commander-in-chief, may
choose to ignore laws, treaties or even the Constitution
itself if they interfered with his ability to prosecute
the war as he saw fit. [...]

[traitor] David Rivkin, Jr., a former Justice Department
lawyer associated with the right-wing Washington Legal
Foundation, charged that the resolution was vague and
amounted to "grandstanding" by the ABA, whose membership
includes some 400,000 attorneys nationwide. [...]

"They have counseled individuals to ignore the law and
offered arguments to minimize their exposure to sanction
or liability for doing so," \ \


/ / In effect, one former top U.S. intelligence community
official told NEWSWEEK, the language in the Goss bill would
enable the president to issue secret findings allowing the
CIA to conduct covert operations inside the United States
without even any notification to Congress. \ \


So it is written, so it shall be done.

Traitor evil lawless bushite enemy, die for us instead
of our good families of innocent men women and children.

True American blood brother, why don't you, get your
guns loaded and kill un-arrested bush and rumsfeld for
9/11 proudly. Then, offer autographs at the
preliminary! Or, die a traitor rightly sacrificed as
enemy, fighting with the lawless godless enemies of
Creation who will ultimately fail to enslave these
Universal values. Trust Yourself, Life'll kill the evil
enemy lawless bushite before we can't help defend
ourselves as Humanity. When the truly evil bushite is
arrested or dies rightly as traitors to all our
Humanity, do not be afraid of our higher intelligence,
but be joyous in ACTUALLY knowing the spirit of the Lord
is great and mighty in You, and to know through Justice,
we shall prevail in our Holy names to a freedom granted
unto Heaven, where even the Atheist dreams of as truly
liberated. Justice for Iraq means we firstly arrest or
shoot to kill the escaping bush and rumsfeld for 9/11,
and for the bushite bomber Allawi, who speaks nothing
for the rape and torture of women and children,
emergency medical treatment nor the demand for safe
drinking water, we arrest for the charge of first degree
murders he publicly has confessed fully responsible for.
Or, we just kill him where he stands as a willful enemy
of peace and our godly commitment to communicate wisely.

Hunt to kill the lawless un-arrested bushite hiding in
our America why don't you God's true to life Patriot?

US atrocity in Najaf

/ / Describing the conduct of the US forces, a Marine
spokesman told the Associated Press on August 11 that
they had ``pretty much just been patrolling and flying
helicopters all over the place, and when we see
something bad, we blow it up.''

Earlier this week, the US military told tens of
thousands of Najaf residents their homes were a
``military zone'' and ordered them to evacuate. [...]

Against the attempts of the Democrats and the media to
drown out the mass opposition to the crimes being
committed in the name of the American people, the demand
must be raised for the immediate withdrawal of all US
and allied forces, the payment of reparations for the
immense suffering inflicted on the Iraqi people, and the
prosecution of the organizers, planners and propagators
of the invasion of Iraq for war crimes. \ \

--

/ / So, with all of that going on, one it imagine how
Shiites and non-Shiites are reacting to the scenes of
bloodshed and to the destruction occurring to the
historic areas as well as the killing of innocent
civilians. I mean, the United States two days ago
bragged that 300 were killed in one night or two. Of
course, it leads one to ask, how does the United States
know they were all terrorists? \ \

--

/ / Planes bombed a district of the city associated with
Shia gunmen, but the city's hospital director said many
of the casualties were women and children.

However, most of the victims reported by the Iraqi
health ministry in this city of about 400,000 were
apparently caught in the air strikes, security sources
told Reuters news agency. \ \

--


/ / Reese, a staunch conservative and formerly a
columnist with the Orlando Sentinel, writes, ``It's no
wonder the president avoids press conferences like the
plague. Take away his cue cards and he can barely talk.
Americans should be embarrassed that an Arab king
(Abdullah of Jordan) spoke more fluently and
articulately in English than our own president at their
joint press conference recently.'' \ \

--

/ / The fact is, John is being persecuted by the Bush
regime for his courage in reporting the "Bush-Nazi
story" in the New Hampshire Gazette last fall and then
taking Bush on earlier this year based on the ugly truth
about 9/11. We the people of the 9/11 and
anti-war/anti-corporatism movements can not sit by and
watch this happen. We must all help John in any way we
can -- NOW. \ \


--

/ / But this time their attacks are more vicious, their
lies cut deep and are directed not just at John Kerry,
but at me and each of his crewmates as well. This
hate-filled ad asserts that I was not under fire; it
questions my words and Navy records. This smear
campaign has been launched by people without decency,
people who don't understand the bond of those who serve
in combat. \ \


/ / Kostunica had to know these promises to save
Yugoslavia were false. Donors Conferences may promise
some credits, but they are always followed by the theft
of the industrial wealth of the target country. This is
clearly explained in the SPS statement, 'We Accuse:
Washington's Aid Promises Are A Traitorous Lie!'
<..\docs\fools.htm> (3) \ \


/ / The last time ChoicePoint sold voter files to our
government it was to help Governor Jeb Bush locate and
purge felons on Florida voter rolls. Turns out
ChoicePoint's felons were merely Democrats guilty only
of V.W.B., Voting While Black. That little 'error' cost
Al Gore the White House. \ \


--


/ / To recap: The Bush administration issues a string
of suspiciously timed terror warnings. It finally gets
called out after raising the threat level without being
fully honest about why it is doing so. Then, in
defending itself from charges of politicizing the
alerts, it commits the biggest bonehead move in the
fight against al Qaeda since allowing bin Laden to cut
through the Khyber Pass.

Until they make some high-level personnel changes, maybe
it's time for the Dept. of Homeland Security to stop
trying to help out so much. \ \


This "mole" was there since when again? And let US
guess, he is un-willing to have a public court case, or
speak to a criminal lawyer about his God given rights to
bitch? Where are the Humans in America when you need
US? In a fix such as this predicament dictates I would
suggest a call to bushite pusher Art Bell the traitor
immediately. You know, the bushite that supports
sacrificing America's sons and daughters to steal the
human rights of all our humanity with their intentional
lies to silently except on Your behalf, US PUBLIC, that
evidence no longer WILL be a requirement to convince YOU
who is truly criminal. [, or evil thug backed through
corporately advertised God pronouncements excepting of
blind servitude for furthering bushite tyranny against
OUR interests.] Wrong bushite wrong.

Love ya.

/ / Anyone who tunes in to the cable news channels these
days would hardly realize our Commander-in-Chief is
presiding over a new campaign of aerial terror against
the Iraqi people in the holy city of Najaf. In his
nightly prayers, George W. Bush should remember those
prosecuting Scott Peterson's murder trial, which is
wall-to-wall fare on television this week. \ \


--

/ / The sentry radioed his battalion headquarters to
report the abuse. According to the statements of one
anonymous soldier, the distressed sentry threatened to
begin shooting the torturers if something wasn't done. \ \

Now, somebody's waking up.


/ / The June 29 episode was first reported on August 8
by the Oregonian newspaper, which published an extensive
account based largely on testimonials from Guardsmen who
were directly involved. The US soldiers, who had acted
out of revulsion over the treatment of the prisoners and
an instinctive impulse of human decency, were bewildered
and angered by the order from above to hand the
prisoners back to those who were savagely abusing them.

(See original at:
http://www.oregonlive.com/special/oregonian/iraq/index.ssf?/base/frontpage/109196614530740.x
ml) \ \


--

Police State USA
by Rep. Ron Paul

/ / Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is
defined by the ability of citizens to live without
government interference. Government cannot create a
world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in
such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society
would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal,
because it would require total state control over its
citizens' lives. \ \


With the words scribed by Ron Paul gives me new hope
that the America I remember hasn't been completely
forgotten. Kidding. Corporately mindful of Ron Paul's
candor, CNN and CBC would claim opinionated on where
civilized Humanity stands on the freedom issues. All so
to remove financial responsibility of investing in
investigation, they would, if they could, forbid such
principled, high priority goal setting on behalf of our
outside interests. Freedom is irrelevant when
leveraging "The People", as TV broadcast to be now
impossibly ignorant for richly reaping the maximum
monetary gains through their dwindling trance of
fabulous news cult celebrity status. Happy happy, joy
joy, bushite bushite, die die die die. How can CNN's
Hemmmer, or CBC's Mansbridge publicly claim they haven't
heard of bush's General Ahmad, along with the top secret
bush, condi, rumsfeld 9/9 war crimes plan after we
phoned, e-mailed, and faxed there over and over like
that since first learning of the still breaking news?
[fluorosis is a potentially fatal medical condition
caused by consuming fluoride] Who's side are those that
offer no International news worthy story on the rape,
torture, and murder of innocent People in this new
starving bushworld? Only maybe your brother or sister
they'll cheaply broadcast falling truly dead as
unworthy. So, go ahead soldier, you too die for traitor
bush by not standing up for yourself, your family, or
country, or, decide freely to side instead taking
decisive deliberate action to destroy the enemy of
America, that demon liar known the world over as, Our
truly evil, Mr. bush Jr.. By doing so, you'll be
saving the lives and happiness of the Godly as US
innocent. Including of those in America that falsely
comfort believing death only comes knocking expectantly,
and, oh yeah, is a real charmer..

'cause I'm,

Johnny Wizard

--

/ / Anyone still harboring the illusion that opposition
to the war can be advanced through the election of
Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry is obliged to
give careful consideration to the candidate's
extraordinary statements this week. \ \


--

/ / NEW YORK (Reuters) - Pentagon auditors have
concluded that Halliburton Co. failed to adequately
account for more than $1.8 billion of work in Iraq and
Kuwait, said a newspaper citing a Pentagon report. \ \


--


Contracts will be signed, and bushites will die.

This Capt Carrie Batson, what a little nazi fuck eh?
Lying to the dying American soldier, that, evil bush
whore traitors there are sacrificing their pirated lives
to benefit those that rob from their own family back
home as undefended, are the best that America can muster
as sinister self betrayers to our human causes.

No respect for the American flag, nor the Constitution,
while acquiescing to the, oh well, unaddressed rapes and
torture of those evidenced innocent, while PUBLICLY
claiming the rights to steal most everything, as the
official definition of being lawwlessly "pro-Iraqi",
while attacking any or all those demanding fair
representation, or who honorably hold truces. Just
imagine what the bushite's pro-Amerka will be like, if
You don't stand up and shout, "For God sakes, somebody
kill that demon nazi tyrant George Bush Jr. for the
benefit of all our Humanity" I HATE bushite. How about
You?

ENEMY lying fascist nazi whores they are the bushite eh?
Who wouldn't gladly kill a bushite soldier for the love
of their family and country? Ha ha ha.. die bushite
die. Any bushite who supports the sacrifice of their
lives to support the further victimizing of Humanity for
Mr. bush Jr., is the ungodly enemy to all people.
There is no joy greater than killing a mortal enemy of
the innocent, God, of which the bushite is as
purposefully ignorant, weak, slow, and as parasite,
believes dropping bombs on cities, towns and villages,
makes them fearful to all slaves, but godly men to
bushite, I kill them quicker than the time it takes.
Well... We'll just have to wait for the pay-for-view
spectacular. Contracts will be signed, and bushites
will die. Cowards are the bushite, whom target the
innocent women and children of our families with cluster
dud land mines, toxic waste they even feed to
themselves, while allowing without grief the stealing of
humanitarian aid from the desperately poor, all to give
to the board of directors of Halliburton, billionaires
who live in off shore cruise ships on the sea, with
slave servants too, feeding them self serving praises
everyday. Why should they pay taxes the ACTUALLY dying
bushite sputters almost incoherently. That is what a
demon bushite is. A dumfuk. They know now bush and
rumsfeld murdered thousands of Americans in New York
City, then got sacrificed thousands of American soldiers
for nothing but to reap the stolen profits off the loss
of their given as worthless lives. Cowardly refusing to
stand as true Patriots with the principles that the
American flag symbolize: Universal freedom and justice
comprised through Power of the highest order. Holy
Johnny, God's serious business! Who wouldn't kill
un-arrested bushite as the enemy to America, Humanity,
and God speaking frankly? I sure would.

HEY BUSHITE, change your evil ways by learning some
Human skills man, or, we'll hunt you down with the
weapons of our will to win the fight for Liberty against
all mindless unthinking tyranny a bushite professes
publicly as our intention to murder some "unseen"
innocent persons to rob from, hidden now practically
from no one. A bushite who makes a capital allegation,
while providing no evidence, and ignoring what has being
so far, publicly established, Hammurabi recommends you
just immediately publicly openly execute as false
accuser, for everyone to timelessly acknowledge
knowledge, as truth, justice, peace and understanding.
See?, by bush not offering evidence against those
"Arabs", he therefore, (the bushite contends), should
not allow America to follow the crimes leads from the
real murder scene for "themselves". To stupid for my
liking as universally freedom bound, how about you
my friendly stranger significant others?


/ / "We estimate we've killed 300 anti-Iraqi forces in
the past two days of fighting," Capt Carrie Batson, of
the US Marines, said. \ \

You tell me, isn't Carrie the enemy? Bald face Lying to
dying American soldiers that way? Or, is kimmitt and
bremer, along with bush and rumsfeld included in the
total? How can un-arrested child rapists, and self
confessed murdering thieves be the "good guys" to the
traitor bushite?

--

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=548809

/ / "Najaf is being subjected to . . . total destruction.
We call on the Islamic world and the civilised world to
save the city." \ \


--

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/mcgovern.php?articleid=3272

/ / Adding to its woes,
last week over a hundred lawyers, including seven past
presidents of the American Bar Association and former
FBI Director William Sessions, issued a statement
strongly condemning the legal opinions of government
attorneys holding that torture might be legally
defensible. The lawyers called for an investigation
regarding whether there is a connection between those
legal opinions and the abuses at Abu Graib and
elsewhere. \ \


--

/ / It's a Mr. Death or something.. he's come about
the "reaping"?,. I don't think we need any at the moment." \ \


Hello


/ / "All those who don't do this, we call them
terrorists, criminals and they are against the law.
Therefore, we will take all (necessary) steps," said
government spokesman Gurgis Sada. \ \

So, according to rich corporate news america, bush's
amerka, those bushite enemies that confess freely to
murdering Iraq's innocent children and elderly, while
openly stealing billions with kimmitt, bremer, and
thomas foley, are not a target for retribution solely
because of bush's satanic lawless decrees like 13303?
And, tell US again that the racist nazi bushite
soldiers, (Apartheid's death squad goons) that primarily
target our black brothers, can not ever be arrested or
made dead because bush and rumsfeld say they are their
disciples as enemies of every religion? The anointed
lawless bushite savages intend to take on every fine and
outstanding police officer of the force? Paid for by
the American tax payer? Yeah, but like, what about all
my literate American acquaintances, who like US, hate
such blatant evil lawlessness perpetrated in our names
sacrilegiously?

Instead, how about treating all people equally, to fight
for true freedom with law principled indivisible? Like
with Hammurabi? NO, the evil treasonous bushite says,
otherwise we'd have to arrest or immediately execute
bush and rumsfeld for 9/11, and Allawi for the crimes of
murder, that he publicly swears he's completely
responsible for. Allawi is a true enemy of The People,
and We, as the godly, are for sure coming to "address"
him. You can count on it.


http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=10h4s743m16vdb6%40corp.supernews.com&output=gplai
n

/ / $1.9 billion in contracts for Halliburton and other
American contractors that were supposed to be financed
with money approved by the U.S. have been paid for with
Iraqi money. Why? According to The Washington Post,
the Iraqi funds "were governed by fewer restrictions and
less rigorous oversight."

"American firms charging 10 times as much as
Iraqi firms for construction work." [?] \ \


These bushite war criminals will be hunted down to the
ends of this World by US REAL Patriots, and made to give
back every last cent that was criminally STOLEN in
bush's evil name from the United States Working Class,
and from the victimized Iraqi nation.

A Violation:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37822-2004Aug3_2.html

/ / ..meaning, the inspector general said, that the CPA
was not able to ensure that the assets "would be
available for the use and benefit of the Iraqi people." \ \


All bushite disciples will have an opportunity to
publicly disavow to their "lawless" legal status, if
they refuse as soullessly committed disciples of the
demon anti-Christ, and they are found guilty for capital
crimes such as murder or the torture of US innocent, we
shall kill them where they foolishly hide behind MY flag
as enemies to God and Humanity. Go and get Your Self a
loyal bushite enemy, for Thee America will stand strong
united against the truely Satanic bushite evil, or, will
die.

TELL EVERYONE: A dime Johnny Wizard is paying for
every bushite tagged and bagged.


Where's the Promised Accountability...

"Watch America. Watch how we deal with this. Watch how
America will do the right thing."

--

12 former judges join call for probe of torture memos
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/9321940.htm?1c

/ / ''The most senior lawyers in the Department of
Justice, the White House, Department of Defense, and the
vice president's office have sought to justify actions
that violate the most basic rights of all human beings,"
said the group's statement, signed by 130 officials and
lawyers, including former FBI chief William Sessions. \ \


--

http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df08092004.html

/ /
The story wholly refutes assertions by the White House
and Republicans that it was the intelligence community
to blame. In fact, as the data shows, the White House
deliberately ignored intelligence to mislead America.

Read the full article, with direct links to all source
material, at www.inthesetimes.com. \ \

See? Art Bell doesn't want America to know though, so
he and his "demon master" can rape torture and murder as
evil enemies to all living things. Imagine: Art Bell
censors his call-ins, while nationally broadcasting he
doesn't. Wicked jumbuck evil if we've ever known it, a
traitor to America's dying soul through and through is
Art Bell's foolish misgivings on who rules these free to
be me airwaves.


--

The Case Against George W. Bush
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6577.htm

/ / On top of the usual massaging of public perception,
they traffic in big lies, indulge in any number of
symptomatic small lies, and, ultimately, have come to
embody dishonesty itself. They are a lie. And people,
finally, have started catching on. \ \

--

Republicans cheer child rape and torture
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=HBfQc.33391%24DZ.3664996%40twister.tampabay.rr.co
m&output=gplain


/ / Iraq's Child Prisoners A Sunday Herald investigation
has discovered that coalition forces are holding more
than 100 children in jails such as Abu Ghraib.
Witnesses claim that the detainees - some as young as 10
- are also being subjected to rape and torture \ \


--

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=257194&messageid=1091821508&lp=10918
21508

/ / ``It is a very sad day for the United States, and
humanity in general, to learn the details of what has
been happening at Guantánamo Bay,'' said Clive Stafford
Smith, founder of Reprieve and a lawyer for many of the
detainees. ``It is torture pure and simple. It is
cruel, and it is pointless. We have known since the
Middle Ages that no useful information can come out of
coerced confessions.'' \ \


Do you believe the "unaccountable" lawless bushite
rapists think their true American freedom fighters? Do
you think the board of directors at Halliburton believe
they're truly doing Humanity a favor by STEALING
humanitarian aid, to pay themselves "uncompetitively"
billions for doing nothing?

I refer you to these exhibits:

/ / <<http://www.cair-net.org/images/lcpl11.jpg>>

The picture of the bushite soldier gleeing in the
horrors of secretly committing rapes and murders in
America's name, is the same illusion when the demon bush
liar spews "his" America is bringing freedom to the
Iraqi oil-rich nation by murdering, raping, and OPENLY
pillaging as the godless evil war mongering anti-Christ. \ \


/ / What did any of them ever do to us? There's a word
for needless killing: it's murder, and that's what Bush
plunged us into. \ \


Or perhaps demon bush has US all convinced bombing and
robbing innocent Godly good people anywhere, is a fight
for his ultimate escape from the fury of America as
empowered? Eh? Destroy the lawless demon anti-Christ
won't you? as a big favor to Yourself and country?

[bushite enemy] TROOPS ADMIT SHOOTING IRAQI CIVILIANS
<<http://www.veteransforpeace.org/us_roops_admit_061903.htm>>

/ / American troops today admitted they routinely gun
down Iraqi civilians - some of whom are entirely
innocent.

And in an admission that directly contrasts with the
line coming out from the Pentagon's spin doctors
Specialist Corporal Michael Richardson added: "There
was no dilemma when it came to shooting people who were
not in uniform, I just pulled the trigger. \ \


Now, who's gonna kill un-arrested bushite Michael
Richardson for payback? His mother? father? or right
next door neighbor, for bringing such a diseased mind
into this God forsaken world without shame or apology?
Okay, say, your a black man, no, an Iraqi, or better
yet, a Christian, aren't you now gunning, for any and
all bushite vermins before they steal another innocent
life in your stead?


/ / He also wrote that the president, as commander in
chief in the war against terrorism, was not constrained
by ant torture laws. \ \


/ / Given the fact that it was shown that the US
President had launched an extremely grave accusation
based on a sentence found in a paper written by an
American student, who himself refuted the deliberate way
Bush misconstrued it, it's hard to imagine a more
bizarre response than that given by a White House
spokesperson when told about this refutation. \ \

--

http://www.1061rdu.com/script/headline_newsmanager.php?id=336593&pagecontent=nationalne
ws&feed_id=59

/ / But the officer in charge of the hearing, Col.
Denise Arn, in rejecting that request, made it clear
that she wasn't going to allow the hearing to become a
trial of whether top U.S. officials had encouraged
abuse. \ \

Treason.


http://indybay.org/news/2004/08/1691021.php

/ / All this information went to the same place: FBI
Headquarters in Washington, DC, and the FBI Washington
Field Office, in Washington DC. Yet, your report claims
that not having a central place where all intelligence
could be gathered as one of the main factors in our
intelligence failure. \ \

--

/ / Blitzer seemed shocked by this. "Well, how is that
possible in this day and age you don't have a backup?"
Graham's answer was stunning: "Because I'll say
(Florida) Governor (Jeb) Bush and his administration
have stonewalled the efforts to get a paper trail behind
these electronic machines." \ \

--

/ / Provance, however, did talk to the German TV crew
about the treatment of children at Abu Ghraib. He
alleges that children were sometimes abused in order to
force their parents to give information to coalition
authorities. \ \


--


<<http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/9316830p-10241546c.html>>

/ / The order to shoot the demonstrators, I believe,
came from senior government officials, including
intelligence communities within the military and the
U.S. government. \ \


--


<<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25177-2004Mar25.html>>

/ / Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage
contradicted Rice's claim that the White House had a
strategy before Sept. 11 for military operations
against al Qaeda and the Taliban. \ \

Jesus, I had missed that! Wow! Armitage too, along
with Tenent, and Richard Clarke, none of the three were
made aware, or consulted (!) of the confessed, no
evidence bin Laden-Afghanistan-? WORLD WARS strategy,
existing two days prior to 9/11 as MSNBC informed Us of,
at Condoleezza's office; Presidential plans signed by
the soulless demon himself, Our enemy the world over Mr.
Bush Jr..

--

DIE BUSHITE DIE

There is nothing so in this entire history that more
makes me feel sadness for our great love stolen, than
the American public's silent contempt expressed for the
lives of those innocent People fallen murdered by their
cowardly unjust indecision on foregoing the immediate
arrest or execution of the "escaping" demon bush and
rumsfeld for the crimes of 9/11. Leaving like most
everyone else left pressed to down play the innocent
victims to more than thousands of cluster dud land mines
throughout residential districts, (like the far more
than 25,000 left in Afghanistan to murder women and
children for generations) rich "sexy" rummy's more than
nine thousand missiles and bombs targeting primarily
essential public institutions housing the Iraqi working
class, or the war crimes of randomly targeting more than
50 other large civilian gatherings like shopping markets
with rumsfeld's okayed "guesswork", and so on as
thousands of tons of radio-active depleted uranium,
during those early first four days of bush's war against
God and Humanity in Mesopotamia, never mind the later

pronouncements of the sniper bushites who admit to
targeting only the innocent as children and the elderly,
..but NO, instead we tell ourselves, the evil sadistic
bushite Satanic disciples murdered only less than 50,000
innocent People irrationally actually more than a year
after enemy buford blount's gang of un-American evil
enemies, confessed to murdering completely innocent
defenseless THOUSANDS of women, men, and children in one
single April afternoon in Baghdad. Getting rightly
killed the courage of really not so bright teen bush
bitched new recruits as consequence, culted into the
wrong place at the wrong time by a criminal force that
ungodly lies cheats and steals to rob from all America,
the principles enshrined within the Constitution, and
the rights inherent of every free life standing.

DIE BUSHITE DIE

The left broadcasted cowardly American soldier, who
stead fast refuse to stand for God's America today, as
any real Atheist Patriot soldier would, we watch instead
as self betrayers sided with as the ungodly bushite
enemies. Enemies who targeted entire towns or cities of
ourselves for first degree murder. The bushite cancer
is a traitor to the American cause of liberty and
Justice for all. Enemies of God are the bushite
corporate news agenda that refuses US to voice our
truths on evidence being the only requirement to
convince ourselves of something so important as a
freedom stand to die for. Patriots need to demand the
arrest, or rightly shoot dead steven russell, mattis,
kimmitt, bremer, nergroponte, or anyone else who serves
treasonously as loyal enemy bushite slaves, by doing so,
eventually earning respect of this Universe over as true
freedom fighters committed to liberty and justice for
all. Wow!, what a privilege. [Wanna wager who'll
likely be the one to kill bush and rumsfeld if you don't
wise up in time to do it for yourself instead my
friend? Hello?]


<<http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/08/1049567660897.html>>

/ / "I think they thought we wouldn't shoot kids, But we
showed them we don't care. I did what I had to do. I
don't have a big problem with it" - U.S. Army Pvt.
Nick Boggs \ \


/ / ..commander of the 1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry
Regimen, Lt. Col. Steven Russell, "This is to remind
the town that we have teeth and claws and we will use
them.'' \ \


/ / "Soon American soldiers came [after the aerial
rocketing and bombing that killed most people]. One of
them kicked her to see if she was alive, she said. "I
pretended I was dead so he wouldn't kill me,' said
Shihab. \ \


http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsnews/071nd6.htm

/ / ``He was shouting `Marwan, save me,' and I yelled
back `Try to swim, try to swim,' but he went under again
and that was it. I could hear them [buford blount's
bush bitch soldiers] laughing. \ \


snpd

DIE BUSHITE DIE! A hunting we shall go as one for the
army of Justice and Freedom, true love and sweet
understanding. Destined to destroy the unarrested
godless demon bushite disciples. I shall never end
until every bushite war mongering enemy is laid to rest
in their early graves, as a testament to God's great
love held dear in the hearts of every real brave warrior
this entire Universe over. Join the battle to save you
soul! Or don't. DIE BUSHITE DIE!

Surviving true blooded Americans will hunt each bush
mobster down un-mercilessly and kill them rightly,
before they're allowed to walk the streets of God's
America free of our wrath. I'll kill them all myself as
a real patriot soldier of courage only would, determined
to defend freedom to the last enemy bushite spewing.
Spewing to leave the undefended poisoned American tax
victims to dole out a few hundred billion to the
bushite's "humane" corporate war profitizing fraudsters
backed by celebrating rumsfeld's rapists and south
African racists, who overcharge deliriously as the
deemed by bush, lawlessly "unaccountable"., while also
robbing our Humanity further of the simplest of
services, like access to potable drinking water needed
immediately, like in a dire emergency. I DEMAND water
be shipped in today paid for by the private wealths of
the evil bushites remaining hidden in my America,
[armitage especially] to save the innocent life of any
in Iraq from further suffering as our God wounded.
Wouldn't you demand the same in Christ's name? Or,
would you rather die?

Allawi must be tried, and executed in Baghdad for the
mass murders he has accepted full responsibility for as
self confessed enemy of Allah.

Bushites that object, should be tried, then executed
joyously also, publicly for American TV entertainment
purposes in New York City or perhaps Washington, just so
they get our serious TRUE nature of my godly mission
when it comes to fighting to free America from dying US
as their ungodly cowardly innocent victims.

My days are almost entirely committed to hunting down
demon bushite to the ends of this earth, that I love as
never abandoned to be victimized further if I can help
it as Father to Creation. To preserve, protect and
defend the Constitution of the United States, we shall
destroy enemy bushite freely by the score to reap some
rewards. THINK! I ask you again: Who wouldn't kill
the threatening to re-commit lawless bushite nazi savage
rapists and torturers deemed "unaccountable" by bush the
ungodly anti-Christ?. Bushites are enemies of Freedom
and Justice, enemies of life in Nature, enemies of You,
me, God, and everyone else that includes themselves to
act their self destruction, but in my stolen name lying.
DIE BUSHITE DIE!


/ / - the official panel appointed by the president to
investigate this catastrophic caper decided that finding
out who really did it was unimportant, and devoted no
time to pursuing the matter.

Hello? \ \


/ / This puzzles me, knowing the detailed information I
myself provided to the commission during a three and a
half hour tape-recorded briefing, yet finding only one
footnote (footnote 25) briefly stating insufficient
translation capability within the FBI. \ \

All members of the 9/11 commission will be arrested and
tried for treason. Their failures in intelligently
measuring God's will to hunt them down as traitors will
not be abated ever. We'll hunt them all down as
escaping bushite accomplices with their misgivings and
contempt for our true state of religion and politics in
friendly America.

Johnny Wizard asks again and again: "What real man
wouldn't kill a threatening to re-commit murdering nazi
bushite savage?"


Art Bell burn in Hell

Evil Art Bell "there are allot of conspiratorialists of
course about 9/11, as there probably will be beyond our
life times, you know it's going to be conspiracy
material from now until doomsday probably."

Art Bell figures the truth with not win God's day in
America, at least not while he's broadcasting stupidly
as censoring our random call ins as dumdum evil dumb.
If Art Bell personally never allows America to know
bush's partner in crime, General Ahmad funded Atta,
while openly deceiving Americans so foolishly it shows
Eventually Americans will learn Art Bell censors
American concerns while broadcasting he doesn't, is all
done to protect bushite rapists, and the continuing
defrauding of the American soldier's left already robbed
grand parents. What will then Art Bell truly look like
to ALL of US lying to no one any more? Evil enemy of
American freedom perhaps?, sending sacrificed teen
soldiers out to die for the demon anti-Christ? I rest
my case. Art Bell, the true enemy bushite, is a traitor
to the cause of liberty and Justice for all. Art Bell
shouldn't be censoring our calls like he does as a dumb
LYING evil TRAIITOR! Eh? Hey Art! How about inviting
me publicly on to defend yourself? Thousands of good
people have been murdered irrationally in America's
name, and Johnny is really ticked off about it, let me
tell you all honestly. God is the best there is at just
about everything, it's a handicap I know, but we manage
to live with it by principled reason and righteous
respect for this timeless indivisible universe of
intelligence comprehending. God is quite amazing in
truth to witness, but vulnerable if we fail to stand up
for ourselves committed to freedom for ALL. Be thankful
to know you could give all you could, to bring true
happiness and earned respect to this wise old clunker of
a universe who'll never be lonely with a kook like You
to ponder the imponderable question riddled in the
answer.

Hint: The Son of Man commands with respect, I suggest
we support his power base of common cause.

I DEMAND bush, condi, and rumsfeld to be immediately
arrested or executed for the crimes of 9/11. And to
bring about an open inter-National public discussion on
where the remaining crimes scene leads go as ultimately
back to others through the evidenced certainty of our
convictions.

A god I'm like as the actual Son of Man... no fiction..
a true common sense kinda a fellow, Cool eh? I am
amazing when you're all alone here to contemplate
unbridled potential as ever new horizons of heavenly
discovery through true enlightenment. A paradise on
earth is not an impossibility, if You can pull together,
and help defeat the enemy lawless bushite nazi savages
from taking broadcast America as conned any further as

the censored to not give a damn about the nature of
Johnny Wizard. An ordinary guy with a word to say.

What do you think?


Johnny Wizard


--

www.rense.com/general53/marin.htm

/ / Half of his foot had been cut off. He went
away dragging his foot. We were all laughing and
cheering. "Then an 18-wheeler [truck] came speeding
around. We shot at it. One of the guys jumped out. He
was on fire. The driver was dead. Then a Toyota
Corolla came. We killed the driver, the other guy came
out with his hands up. We shot him too. \ \

--

/ / We need a national call on our national airwaves to
have General Ahmad arrested for being an accessory to
the crimes of mass murder on 9/11.

George W. Bush, Condi, and Rumsfeld, need to be
immediately arrested or executed for near escaping the
crime scenes of 9/11. Warnings came, they, (during
bush's vacation), "TOP SECRETLY" tweaked a, ready to go
planned world war strategy that would start off in
Afghanistan, premised, on not following the crime scene
leads of terrorist offenses that had yet to materialize,
while closing judicial investigations through the lead
up, the follow through, now... they're cooked. The
bushmob didn't want to get arrested those, who in his
name would soon, murder thousands of Americans in New
York City, for that event was saved to put into action
his "top secret" planned invasion. A world war plan
kept secret from those in American government until the
dated documents showed up at MSNBC. Confessed without
choice to MSNBC as "fully implemented" by the White
House, the bushite war crimes plan went underway almost
without hitch. By offering no rational reason that
factually establishes bin Laden's guilt, would GUARANTEE
the invasion of Afghanistan. Again, a planned false
allegation for a terrorist crime that had yet to be
committed. But See?, for, without evidence bush's
america would not be following the crimes scene leads
from the actual real murder scene, and the real culprits
are left to continue un-abated as the un-arrested
enemies of The People in God's trust.

The last thing the demon liar bush secretly wanted, was
to have halted Laden with evidence for the countless
crimes he's left his fingerprints at. For in this
history, we remember, the Taliban ended surrendering
Laden freely without any further answers. BUSH k-n-e-w
BEFORE HAND, if he were to offer any shred of evidence
to the World implicating Laden, the Taliban would
fundamentally fight for Allah like they were going to do
freely under Clinton, and rightly send the suspect away
for trial and sentencing on the commission of crimes
against God in America. But, hell, offering Laden up to
the world stage for a crime he wasn't committed to,
would sure ruin evil bush's war against our freedoms as
justice in this world. For, after following the
evidence, George W. Bush and his partners in crime
would now be behind bars for treason, or publicly
executed after a fair public trial regarding the facts
as they stand uncontended. MSNBC reported that bush had
actually signed the top secret Presidential plans in
their possession to rob and kill God's Great America.
For Bush, Rumsfeld, and Condi, garnered no insight from
"out of the loop" Richard Clarke on the subject of
Laden's terrorist behavior, (last minute not
withstanding) nor conversed the details on waging world
wars on intelligence with Tenet. Nor even,
surprisingly, talked with Armitage. \ \

--

/ / BUSH STILL, lowered his and his ilk's ability over
the threat as so alleged, then excitedly sacrificed no
less than three times 800, easy. making both claimed
tasks far more difficult[..] \ \

--

/ / My prayers are with the oppressed, never the
oppressor. My prayers are for the innocent, never those
who defile and destroy innocence. My prayers are for
those who are persecuted, never for the persecutors. \ \


--

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/notices.htm

/ / "That the next U.S. president announce, within 10
days of taking office, that he will withdraw all U.S.
troops from Iraq within 60 days, and that if this 10-day
period following the inauguration passes without a
publicly-announced decision to withdraw all troops from
Iraq within 60 days, Veterans for Peace chapters around
the nation will begin a campaign including, but not
limited to, petitions calling for the impeachment of the
president." \ \


--


God's Great America

SNPD

See?, it was on this experience that the bushmob "top
secretly" strategized their guaranteed criminal invasion
for hundreds of billions in stolen profits and worldly
acclaim for being oh so crafty as deserving; enemies to
every religion. A form of self deception that looks an
awful lot like Satan's work. Figuring, the demon
antichrist, George W. Bush will offer no evidence
whatsoever AS PLANNED, then surely, the Taliban will
stand up corporately censored in support of real freedom
everywhere, and suggest America's America, private bank
debtor's America, the forgotten America, should instead,
track the actual criminals by following the ample crime
scene leads at the real murder scene; all so to nab the
true criminals. The Nature of good and evil, is
unbelievably super simple.

snpd

That was the true end of the lying evil
bushite neo-con private banker cabal, and they feared
it, Clinton feared truth too. After all, this bin Laden
was the same wealthy man who fought in the trenches for
women's rights and against the commies, and whom Reagan
called, one of America's greatest freedom fighters.

What could the bushite liars do about the true People
living in our world committed religiously to liberty and
justice for everyone as included?, an equal? Where
Justice would prevail, and life celebrated as something
truly magnificent as magical, but as such, also truly
vulnerable?

Hell bound, the demon bush tries to take all of
America down counting for with his lying and cheating.
Don't let him my American friend, and help the innocence
of God kill him rightly instead.

During bush's PLANNED to be wrong, false, untrue 9/11
accusations, the Taliban were last heard stating, Ladens
your's, take him freely as the innocent without any
evidence. Wealthy Laden was freely prepared to wager
his LIFE to save the countless lives of others, while
enemy evil bushite target innocent women and children
with land mine cluster duds to steal the pensions and
life savings of their very own grandparents they leave
undefended. While eating harmless plutonium. Dying for
lawless cop killers, and south African death squad
runners who target my black brothers. Cowards and
betrayers to the American flag are the bushite, and on
which everyone stands: freedom as Justice for all.
Especially Humanity. Anyway, Laden's surrender without
further answered questions, almost ended the demon
bushite plans to sacrifice American GIs for heroin
pushers and Enron there, but to no avail, bushites
content our corporate news channels, and CBC or CNN
"Journalists", aren't taking any calls for comment from
our National investigating officers, or recognized
scientific bodies, never mind US, as the general public.
And elementary mathematics? Forget it, we're all too
stupid to know how to add or divide whole numbers
they'll not tell you instead. The private banker's 2%
return on Social Security is a commie concoction fraught
with irregularities of elementary logic they'll leave
you hanging to die as the misunderstood basic un-erring
calculator, and VLTs pay out 96% if you don't count our
monetary losses stupid.., and heavy metal toxic waste as
dangerous?, well that all depends on who you ask to read
the Geiger counter dimly,.. now don't call us back with
your "minutia", we got important guests coming over, and
much for entertaining to do. Watch US wine and dine on
your dime in luxury through your magic TV screen again
and again and again, and maybe some day you'll reap the
benefits with the financing of military dictatorships
through ungodly global tyranny, all to further sacrifice
Your stupid place here as our servant today, now!, back
to slaving to steal from even others as bushite
disciple, for, God is dead, and Johnny, well, he's just
a figment of imagination, a quantum spark of energy in
an unbound sea of infinite dimensions. A timeless
wonder of unmatched character, whom is forever, really
really angry with war mongers, and the neo-con cabal of
ungodly terrorists, terrorists, who are continuing to
sponsor the murder of so many good and Godly People in
My name too, left forsaken as unworthy. Your Great
America.

Your King,

Johnny Wizard


P.S. And you call yourself Christian?


--

Last thought


See? we all can agree, "A Freeman shall not be
imprisoned", but an evil ungodly bushite as an enemy to
our Humanity, publicly disagrees as the unchallenged by
our professional corporate news standard, broadcasting
our national interests like nobodies business while
advocating our silence regarding the persecution of
those known only to be innocent. Why spend investment
for the profit of the victimized public when nobody
cares to mention the price paid by the now dead victims,
or still left robbed without retribution American grand
parents? How many innocent families were needlessly
murdered in Iraq by godless enemy bushite nazi savages
that dropped thousands of land mines into residential
districts, sent thousands of missiles and bombs
targeting civilian gatherings, while killing themselves
too for no good reason or known purpose but for to
soullessly praise rumsfeld and bush with their last
fading breath, for making such a great killing at
deceiving the undefended nation of bushite's evil empire
as stolen sworn to American principles? Tell me, would
you shoot to kill the un-arrested bushite enemies who
were proudly filmed raping or torturing women and
children, whom still are claiming to foolishly be above
all the law, so therefor "unaccountable" of these
worldly words of man and machine?, Or so according to
their false deity's Satanic theory, the demon
anti-Christ George W. Bush as God's enemy? Or, would
you side with Rush, Art Bell, or Bill, in stating all
deemed lawless bush bitches, Americans should be proud
of for waring against the betterment of ourselves by
robbing our Humanity's great achievements through law
principled indivisable?


/ / Just like Johnny would proudly serving for the
innocent as God is my sworn witness and testifier,
killing lawless evil bushite is a true freedom fighter's
pleasure! \ \


--


/ / "The officers asked Mr. Siler to sign a consent to
search form, waiving his constitutional rights to not
search his home," Farley explains. Farley says when
Siler refused to let officers search his home, the five
men beat him for nearly two hours. \ \


Reality meet Reality

David Webber and Samuel Franklin, along with the three
deputies, William Carroll, Shayne Green and Joshua
Monday, need to be arrested immediately as traitors to
the American way we do things in Johnny town. No
bushite savage will be allowed to adopt bushite
lawlessness in God's America, for US American men will
not cower as slaves to suffer for it further if we can
truly help one another without feeling all gay, warm and
fuzzy. (That's for later.) Bill O'Really may wish to
DIE America's sons and daughters out, to pillage and
rape humanity of our decency and respect for human life,
but I'd, like any of Nature would, will arrest lawless
evil perpetrating bushite without rest, kill them even
if need be, for my love for God respects all those
innocent. Innocence, that an evil bushite openly target
for plunder..

/ / United States [...] "precision attack" [...]
guerillas outside a house [...] wounded five civilians,
including three children, \ \


We witness Kimmitt, and now Allawi targeting the murder
of hundreds of innocent people, threatening true
American soldiers not be brave enough to kill either
rightly for it, and instead die as traitors, for
primarily, not demanding the demand for pursuit of those
in the Berg film with intelligence. Those who are in a
yellow painted cement building of some dimension,
wearing military fatigues, and as enemy bushite,
advocate the murder not of Bremer, Kimmitt, Thomas
Foley, or happily American doomful bush whore nazi
godless soldiers, but a Koran caring student of God,
just released from under arrest by someone pretending to
be the "FBI", or so the demon anti-Christ administration
claims publicly to American corporate news coverage
without room for questions. Too embarrassing CBC and
CNN would tell US. Dying Patriot soldiers still haven't
killed bush, as instead, as bushite, committed to
furthering the evil continuation of the lawless bushite
racist disciples, deemed lawless and unaccountable by
George W. Bush [13303] along with his private banker
friends, so too then left un-abated, who would freely
admit to the robbing and murder of darker pigmented
soldiers, to divide and plunder, because they are
rumsfeld's pleasure in America's name left truly
pirated. If I were a man where Powell is in America
today, I shoot dead rumsfeld proudly, as an act of mercy
to God, who's suffered enough of oppression at the order
of the evil bushite nazi vermins. Ever since the very
first slave trades began, a bushite bayed, "let's cheat
others as LYING war criminals, and SIMPLY call it
charitable godly work for Christ's mission. Christ,
headlining as the all powerful God and Creator of our
living universe as a simple poor man on the brink of a
really super cool idea We came up with quite some time
ago. Evidence must be a requirement to convince anyone
truly on who is an actual criminal, or manifested evil
incarnate disguised to no one. Bush, as anti-Christ, as
the American dream's most hated enemy, don't like the
idea of Freedom for everyone including Christ even, for
then, he'd definitely be dead, or imprisoned
indefinitely for murdering so many falsely accused in
God's name as a blessing. What?, do you take me for
your fool maybe? How stupid does a bushite think I am?
Truly?

Bushites shall be punished by the full extent of where
law is King. Bushites are trying to infest America,
with a corporate acceptance of demon lawlessness in Your
America. Bushites are the enemies of every Human being
committed to freedom through justice for all. Call the
cops, bush rumsfeld and Condi did 9/11! Get them
soldier!!!


/ / Congressional officials said that notes taken by
Senate staffers who were permitted to review the
document show that it eliminated references to dissent
within the government about the National Intelligence
Estimate's conclusions. \ \


/ / First there is the context. If bin Laden had
decided to say he had no involvement then allowing a
video to be filmed where he says the opposite makes no
sense. \ \


/ / and claimed that "some of the WMD could be ready for
use within 45 minutes of an order to use them". All of
these statements by Tony Blair were in direct
contradiction to the most recent JIC intelligence
reports sent to him, which he must surely have read.
What more evidence does Mr. Docherty need? \ \


Blair has betrayed God and Britain with his lies to
murder innocent families, so to profit off our suffering
as the undefended. Blair told US, he would take
responsibility for his deceit, such as falsely alleging
["sexing up"], that because old Russian Intel felt
Saddam could get small caliber weaponry to any where
along Iraq's border in 45 minutes, he could then,
therefore, falsely claim, it secretly meant a delivered
nuke to anywhere in the world almost immediately. Why
mad man Saddam would do this to jeopardize his
stewardship, the national corporate nazi whores, like
Art Bell, would never let US freely discuss to gain
insight or pursue godly enlightenment through humbling
ourselves in the presence of true greatness. Noam
Chomsky has sold many books, but rarely if never called
upon for clarity, and this is no corporate oversight or
accident to keep Americans in the dark on what they're
paying their real lives with.


http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=470

/ / Some of the relatives are keen to find out why, at
the peak of this struggle, the tape suddenly stops
recording voices and all that is heard in the last 60
seconds or so is engine noise. \ \

How can that possibly be? It can't. If true, the "FBI"
involved in this particular matter, are enemy spies.
Write that one for US, then demand some arrests to be
made in Your name.


Art Bell demands America stay ignorant as censored of
our rightly claim to the pursuit of happiness by
guaranteeing ourselves freedom of expression through
Justice for all as is fair all around. Ask anyone.
Police agencies, like our National Security branches,
are also not being allowed to communicate our findings,
while corporate news america has so far gotten away
broadcasting simply, Laden did it, but without the
clarifiers of evidence being the only backed story board
we could ever accept as our impartial news coverage.
The bush administration has made no advancement in
obtaining the arrest and conviction of the funder to the
mastermind ring-leader Mohamed Atta. Why? Because
General Ahmad is part of a vacation plan [absent Tenent]
put in place by Rumsfeld, Condi, and Bush signed into
being, 9/9, 2001. To criminally invade Afghanistan to
primarily benefit floundering Enron. All in writing,
and publicly reported on by MSNBC News. When the story
first broke, I was talking to every person "national
news" responsible at CBC, they mumbled richly, it wasn't
their responsibility and refused to touch it as relevant
on where they are taking US all for. Now, who's
interest does CBC serve, when they take such a
deliberate tyrannical step against our democracies
interest, freedom's interest, in not publicly supporting
the arrest of the true perpetrators to the continuing
9/11 news line? Who? Not our really dead and dying
brothers and sisters that's who, while stealing billions
upon billions paid for by the blood sweat and tears of
the honest hard working people of our two great nations.
Taxed to death. I say, "let's kill un-arrested American
cop killing evil bushite instead my fine feathered
friends, and be thanked by God in persons"

/ / Earlier this week, a new Israeli intelligence
estimate predicted that Iran would have a nuclear bomb
by 2007 and said international scrutiny of the program
had delayed development. \ \

What?, and kill the innocent Jews held hostage by that
enemy of the Jewish faith, Mr. Ariel Sharon?, while
pretty much guaranteeing destruction for God enslaved to
die ever never more? Ariel Sharon, [whom insists
publicly he is our intended enemy unapologetically.
[See "Old Testament"] is a holocaust denier because he
commands the murder of the innocent, branded in his
image as Hitler did, a nation of persons, [Palestinian
cross caring Christians for example:} [ALL holy of God
as magnificent], guilty of some capital accusation
without substantiating any actual evidence. Stealing
the possessions of those claimed innocent without charge
for. Denying the God loving, their equal rights to
pray. Satanists unjustly stealing the wisdom of God
from the soul of every Jew, Ariel Sharon tells them like
bush and rumsfeld do, robbing, raping, and torturing the
innocence of God symbolizes true darkness and hate for
our love and light, and is disguised to know one, even
the Atheists would be bound to concur, Son of Man,
saying no further, states, stop that un-arrested Jew
hating God killer Ariel Sharon for me will you my true
Jewish blood brother? and be loved by this entire World
for saving the lives innocent in God's love, stolen by
that demon Ariel Sharon fooling Humanity into letting
him go further in a real Jew's name with his ungodly
criminal infractions against G's interests. Ariel
Sharon was caught personally involved in the attempted
terrorist strike in Mexico, where he and his two buddies
were going to blow up Jewish Mexican parliamentarians,
and blame it on... Laden maybe. Doh! Get Ariel Sharon
Just for that my lovers of Justice and Freedom for all
as God's greatness can not be made second class by a Jew
killer as is such, Ariel Sharon. Israel's war criminal
Ariel Sharon is not Jewish even anyway. Hillel is
Jewish. Would you want your life stolen Hillel asks
every Jew to believe there is but only one honest answer
when you truly consider this matter. Ariel Sharon is an
enemy of Jews whom he has targeted for murder, so he and
the enemy bushite, can financially profit off the
illegal transaction in our forsaken godly names.

Blair? Hard to kill or have arrested? Hardly, but it
is the, firmly established as treasonous mad man demon
bush, of corporate news reality censored more ignorant
than these fates will allow, we must isolate for remedy
through judicial action, or destroy as humanity's dire
evil enemy. For, all listeners know, traitor Art Bell
would rather see American teen soldiers DIE sacrificed
to profit pension thieves and commi Halliburton, who rob
from the cowardly soldier's own forsaken grand parents,
than allow freedom of expression within God's dying
America. Defending America by killing 9/11's
un-arrested bushite, is a good deed done on behalf of
the American family a bushite only holds true self
contempt for as the cowardly unjustly dying.

May the Lord of Love, Peace, and Understanding always be
upon you as sworn defender. Or, Johnny'll hunt you down
religiously to save the real America, the real America
where Justice is King, and Freedom rules forever
supreme. Ideally, without me present, but man, I sure
do so desperately need some financial help right about
now.


Get Condi, Rumsfeld, and George W. Bush for 9/11, and
I'll pay you a shiny dime for each great achievement.

Thanks in advance.

Johnny Wizard


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/ / Iraq 's horribly overburdened hospitals need
electricity, water, and sewage to function. Hospitals
also need the medicines and medical supplies that are in
woefully inadequate supply. \ \

Where is traitor Allawi on these Iraqi People issues eh?

--

/ / One might think, therefore, that the American media
would feel obliged to at least inform the US public that
credible charges have been made that Washington's man in
Baghdad is a mass murderer--especially since the US
invasion and occupation have been justified on the
grounds that the toppled president, Saddam Hussein, was
a killer. \ \

--

/ / Despite this, in May the CPA reported that the two
contracts that had been issued to restore metering would
take 12 to 18 months to complete--that is, more than a
year after the CPA's rule had expired, and after
billions of dollars had been appropriated. \ \

Criminal.

/ / The truth is that the siphoning off of Iraq's oil is
indicative of the essentially criminal character of the
US-led war. The Bush administration issued a torrent of
fabricated allegations against Iraq, following which it
launched an illegal war of aggression against the
impoverished country. \ \

--

CIA DID NOT FAIL - THE U.S. WAS DECEIVED INTO THE IRAQ WAR
http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2004/07/cia_did_not_fai.php


--

Welcome to the Machine

War in Iraq violated law's conditions
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/19/editorial_virgil.html

The only trouble is the lawless evil bushite child
rapists, and repuglicon pension thieving war mongers,
have no respect for American law, American lives, nor
the God of any religion. I hate bushite, like any real
man or woman would; the bushite cancer is a traitor to
the American cause of liberty and Justice for all. Just
ask Art Bell! Art Bell, like his contemporaries,
constantly warn America, that Laden is going to get
them, maybe with a nuke, but forbids them to know what
the loyal FBI tells US: bush's business partner, the
freed to go General Ahmad, funded the mastermind ring
leader Atta, and is probably meeting with the bushites
in crime as you read this, perhaps in Washington, to
hatch a new bushite terrorist act of treason to secure
re-election by counting the result of only the old one,
with Art Bell's un-questioning full co-operation. Laden
will be responsible for bush remaining wealthy criminal
war mongering dictator they'll then tell US without
blushing. Then, surely, Americans will get their guns
and hunt bushite to the beginnings of Justice for
Everyone you'd think, or perhaps, you wouldn't. Art
Bell is an american who I know for a fact censors his
lined-up calls between breaks, while publicly
broadcasting that he doesn't, of the occasional call he
can't squeeze the schedule to meet the time requirement
between breaking. Barbara Simpson similarly drags the
same, while CBC National Radio in Canada makes no lie of
it whatsoever: All potentials have a prep-interview
pre-screen for the random call ins, could last five
minutes for a thirty second comment, then your told
after the paper work has been completed, as ALL ARE,
you'll be called back if the producers on the "public"
show allow Your state of affairs to be intelligently,
politely, matter of factly, broadcast on OUR radio waves
for discussion or debate. General Ahmad? Forbidden.
Depleted uranium containing plutonium? Forbidden. Girl
school children in Afghanistan under the Taliban?
Forbidden. The WMD was burned beyond recognition?
Forbidden. America's 2% Social Security? Forget it pal
it's only your very own family taken for granted sucking
on the big one, dry as a bone picked clean before hand.
Or, how about, Mr. bush, the grand illusionist, used
absolutely no evidence to substantiate his capital
allegations, while working diligently to close
outstanding critical 9/11 investigations regarding the
murder of thousands of American citizens? No chance...
How about... In a girly voice bushiting Saddam was a
mad man (running universal health care and education,
along with public banking?) [and so it's okay to tacitly
advocate rape and pillage of the innocent and God loving
by barbaric nazi bushite "unaccountable" lawless enemy
savages?] No problem!, (rarely, if never happens though
for lack of scholastic theatrical programs, and free
school dinners for anyone who needed while rising up
with this truly kind world of love, peace, and
understanding). Deceiver Art Bell is dumb like evil
always is, [ask him about his thought on American health
care paying Ross Perot billions! (Of whom is not even a
doctor!!!)] He could, Art Bell, in all possible
universes, desperately try to summon the courage to
speak up as a real man only would, in defense of God's
nation high jacked by the secretly all knowing self
deemed lawless crowned anti-Christ, or provide a voice,
any voice, for teen soldiers sold to eat plutonium while
warned it's officially harmless like MMT or MSG is, [and
can be eaten by the poundful don't you know Repacholi],
and not even worth further discussion it's so irrelevant
truly dying sacrificed in that manner under handedly.
Shh... just go there and actually die to please the
demon anti-Christ bush disciples, as an enemy to all
living things and coward as betrayer of America's
America, and on all freedom stands: Justice for all.
Especially for George W. Bush.

But Art won't allow such speech, and he won't allow any
real American to either. Bell sells a reflection of
what's on the mind of not counted listeners, he claims,
to have a completely free hand to phone in if they did,
but look!, they don't. See? YOUR SEEMINGLY ON YOUR OWN
FOREVER BUDDY. [Welcome.] Doubting yourself to stand as
one with this wondrous universe, the bushite tricks you
into fearing of, then chains you to REAL fascist tyranny
you would have on others like TRULY yourself made in his
corseting bondage. [2012 they say is when the last
bushite is timely hunted down by ourselves as the godly
Humans, I guess we'll see if Americans are American
enough to defend themselves with the Bill to Rightly
claim the heritage...] I have dominated alt.fan.art-bell
for years, without rare a word of disagreement with his
entire fan base, like similarly in us.military.army.
Yet, I'm sold as a wild outsider ignored because of as
much, and the bushite,. as fairer arbitrator on dying
You as innocent victim for nothing but to profit
further, the bushite's ultimate wealth and public
prestige. Lowest priority of Art's, is when it comes to
supporting the police work investigations surrounding
the murder scene evidence of the crimes of 9/11.
Instead he'll have on how, Johnny wants to target all of
America, when in truth, I just want American help
getting the bush bitch nazi whores before they advance
further, torture, rape, and murder in America's name, my
name, God's name, and ultimately Yours as bearing this
Constitution eternally, if you only too, had the courage
and faith to stand on your own for yourself in a
timeless, warrior attitude. Protecting Freedom to be
godly that includes all Humans an equal to the gifts of
wonder granted freely to any as ponder able. America
can/could do this freedom thing, with or without Art
Bell's support or willful ignorance he bays as the
Asinine fooling nobody. It's just going to take
courage for yourself to stand up [alone if need be]
proud, as one of the recognized righteous few, who
holds: all People are created equal, and have
inalienable rights given unto themselves as the heavens
do allow freedom to reign self evidently. So, take hold
of the game, Creation is sane. [Johnny is just a stand
in for the time being.]

Now, instead of Art Bell facing these allegations on his
treason to American dying soldiers, he'll ignore this
post, like he does all our rest, while trying to sell
the image, he is connected to the web of life as our
dead weight. A bushite tells America, Laden is the same
Laden in the video, but with a completely different
face, like with the nose bridge being easily twice as
longed per portion, as to the bushite's fake, we are
told is without question, you are still sleepy.
Bushites never elaborate, nor never will if one or two
American Patriots don't try to sneak on Talk radio
America, and nail nazi bushite to the wall for high
treason in MY America.

Killing George W. Bush and Rumsfeld for almost escaping
the 9/11 murder scene as the perpetrating instigators of
such terrible hardships brought against God, would do
our entire human race one great big favor. Then, maybe,
we'll be heard as the wanting to, and we can get the
remaining trials under way to ultimately win their favor
by earning a place called paradise.


Welcome to the machine,

Johnny Wizard

--

/ / Michigan's Senator Carl Levin asked the CIA
director: "Did the CIA agree with the contents of the
Feith document?" "Senator, we did not clear the
document. We did not agree with the way the data was
characterized in that document." \ \


--

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/trailofdisinformation.html

/ / So, this is the trail of the lies that started a
war, beginning at the White House, and via Dick Cheney
moving upstream to the Pentagon's Office of Special
Plans, under Wolfowitz and Feith, then from OSP to an
parallel group operating out of Ariel Sharon's office in
Israel. That's the trail. \ \


--

http://www.amics21.com/911/fasano.html

/ / We shall be able to learn why, according to the
conservative Wall Street Journal, immediately after
meeting in Washington with CIA director George Tenet,
the head of the Pakistani secret services arranged for
Islamabad to send one hundred thousand dollars to
Mohammed Atta in the US, the organiser of the New York
Twin Towers suicide attack. The suspension of civil
rights by the Patriot Act now prohibits the
investigation of this frightening piece of information. \ \


--

http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=U2kJc.44922%24_V4.32999%40re
ad1.cgocable.net&rnum=4

/ / Among other things Edmonds told her FBI superiors,
she had discovered that Melek Can Dickerson affixed
Edmonds's name to a printout of inaccurate translations.
Properly translated, she says, these wiretaps revealed a
Turkish intelligence operative in communication with his
spies in both the Pentagon and the State Department. \ \


--

http://www.rense.com/general54/mael.htm

/ / I tell them curtly, viciously. Switch to
Al-Jazeerah channel. Watch U.S. soldiers sexually
torturing children in front of naked Iraqi mothers,
weeping through the bars. My relatives adjust their
collars, and disdainfully retort: "John, how could you
be so inappropriately uncouth?" I see their eyes turn to
kaleidoscopes. \ \


--


What Secret Mystery?

/ / Undated-AP -- President Bush says a Senate report
critical of his administration's reasoning for going to
war in Iraq is "useful." \ \


Let's get something understood about the evil enemies of
God, the hated degenerate soulless disciples of the
demon anti-Christ, Our Mr. George bush Jr.. Both
stated goals: ridding Iraq of weapons of mass
destruction, and Liberating the people of tyranny, were
sabotaged by indiscriminately assaulting the country,
that had prior, under Saddam's leadership, granted full
unrestricted access to do whatever bush pleased. [ Did
bush complain about prisoners not granted due process?,
or demanding evidence as being an evident
pre-requisite for real Justice to work for our
Liberation?, or perhaps demanding right NOW where all
the charitable oil-for-food funds went missing in his
name? ] There was nowhere in Iraq closed to immediate
inspection, to illustrate as Kamel had proven with all
relevant documents, [that he brought with him in several
boxes],

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RAN302B.html

that yes, in deed, the WMDs, some like anthrax, was
burned beyond recognition back in 1992. But!!!, even if
there were WMD uncertainly hidden secretly from everyone
in Iraq, [along with Kamel claimed as highly reliable by
almost everyone in bush's secret inner circle,] BUSH
STILL, lowered his and his ilk's ability over the threat
as so alleged, then excitedly sacrificed no less than
three times 800, easy. making both claimed tasks far
more difficult by paying his buddies for "whatever" over
at commi, we're too dumb to know where American values
went regarding Your freedom sucker, while leaving more
Americans to die sacrificed to benefit the bushite
billionaire over billing backers. Left unaccountable by
corporate american news standards of public
accountability. It's only your direct family taken for
by CNN and CBC's un-challenged selling of the bushite
war crime spree my American friends. I've called
literally hundreds at CNN in Atlanta, and as so, at CBC
in Toronto regarding General Ahmad funding Atta, and
bush's 9/11 plan dated 9/9, but they say, sadistically,
it's not the story they've been presently still selling
You about murdering now more than two hundred thousand
innocent people as arguably, an acceptable alternative
to not allow the support of Freedom and Justice in your
real World dying.

Tommy Franks sabotaged the ORHA plan of gaining control
over the nuclear facilities, [and preventing anarchy,]
just so he and bush, [along with the clear collusion of
the World Bank and IMF,] could "get away" robbing the
Public central bank in Iraq of billions. Couldn't have
been done as planned, without letting in those they
begged by gun point to loot the Iraq Museum, so to
collude with the bushmob's secret intent with furthering
war crimes in America's name left forsaken. Bushdum
Amerka.


http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROT304A.html

/ / Do you mean to say that it was the US troops that
initiated the looting? \ \

[I perhaps, when time more so allots, will write further
of the conduct that permeates Frank's decision making as
blatant naked treason. Treason, that intentionally got
killed American soldiers needlessly for nothing, but to
assist the bushmob bankers in robbing US all of our
interest to defend ourselves as The dying People payers
praying.]

/ / At a campaign appearance in Pennsylvania, President
Bush acknowledged that the administration had acted on
flawed intelligence in going to war, but said he still
believed that toppling Saddam Hussein had justified the
[ONGOING] conflict. \ \

Secretly, all that no-interest banking, public health
care, and free schooling he just couldn't tolerate as an
illiterate enemy to US all as Humanity. Like America's
Bill O'Reilly, no humility or respect for this wise
universe of intelligence, like mathematics, or attempts
at listening for those whom communicate universal
understanding. Lawless demon bush figures it's more
profitable to sacrifice the worthless lives of America's
sons and daughters, so to steal further from the
unprotected nation of leaderless America, than to rely
on the principles of the American Bill of Rights to
defend the values of FREEdom to be America. The bushite
war to lower the chances of freedom reigning for the
People, is done so to steal as we are witnessing,
billions of humanitarian aid dollars left corporately
un-accounted to ourselves as the human bearers of
furthering this un-American lawless bush dictatorship of
tyranny's known misery; the history of slavery through
sponsoring capital criminality.

[Example: A bushite soldier fights dying to leave
rumsfeld's lawless South African death squad running

racists un-arrested to freely knock off African American
soldiers as they please, all left unaccosted so far, by
a true liberating military force comprised of true
Patriot Warrior(s).]

All because, there are so few real men in America
willing to publicly defend the American flag by hunting
down and killing un-arrested Condi, bush and rumsfeld
for the crimes of 9/11 back in New York City. Or at the
very least, getting on America's talk radio programs, to
support the officers of American Law regarding the real
crime scene leads evidence trail. America must speak of
lives lost for bushite soldiers further dying for unjust
causes, or will continue to reap the rewards of
cowardice and betrayal to their own country and forsaken
world as irrelevant. Ha. [ Not if I have anything to
say about living they won't.]


/ / The detailed, 511-page report, the result of a
yearlong review, found in particular that the stark
prewar judgment by American intelligence agencies that
Iraq possessed chemical and biological weapons had not
been substantiated by the agencies' own reporting at the
time. \ \


It would momentarily appear, America's pro-war corporate
news media, is playing the faults of bush's judgment
squarely on the CIA's intelligence, instead of
themselves not doing our jobs. The circled coverage of
this most recent report, says nothing of the accusations
made prior to the build up for war that bushites were
lying nationally unchallenged through CNN or CBC.
Maliciously they censor our calls for Justice and
Freedom by seeking truth for our accurate
representation. Crime scene leads? Nope. Take open
public commentary? Nope. Report on the Ladens flying
out of America? Nope, and now look at THEM!!! Pleading
ignorance, while ignoring facts on the bush war as
clearly unjustified. The CIA didn't think the
irrational Iraq war was justified. [Starting an unjust
un-needed war would only bring about the speculative
allegations of hatred worldwide for evil bushite hiding
behind our freedom flag while trying to rob everyone of
the American Dream.] Walla Allah, and here I am.


/ / ``After consultations between Iraqi government
officials and Multinational Forces-Iraq, Iraqi security
forces provided clear and compelling intelligence to
conduct a precision strike this evening on a known
Zarqawi safe house in southeastern Fallujah,'' Allawi
said in a statement. \ \


Allawi needs to be tried, then publicly executed for his
most recent terrorist offences against the Iraqi People.
Allawi knows that Iraq, as a nation, is angered like
anyone, for the needless mass murders committed by the
evil bushite nazi savages, but refuses to site his
actual reason [evidence] to placate suspicions he is a
bonafide bushite disciple of the evil demon anti-Christ,
Our Mr. bush Jr., nor does Allawi state why arrests
weren't attempted against what was found to be, yet
again, the godly as innocent. Has Allawi spoken on
America's silence regarding the torturing and rape of
women and children by the godless evil treasonous bush
bitches who laugh with rumsfeld, while claiming "legal"
immunity to the wrath of every person standing here with
John growing angry? Have we heard demands made by
Allawi, to have returned, the well in excess of 20
billion dollars STOLEN from a cowardly bushite nazi
PARASITIC soldier's [victimized] grandmother?, for
frauds now confessed by everyone but, CNN and CBC
censors, who refuse any freely open dialog on anything
of political significance regarding the sacrifice of
American lives lead leaderless to their barren graves in
true self contempt? General Ahmad? Not important to
the bushite savage criminals. Depleted uranium,
containing plutonium? Not relevant when you're waging
wars to free the bushite with crimes against Your being.
And like that monster, Allawi, he just magically states
murdering Iraqi women and children for terrorists is a
good thing, WILL, surely get killed more deservedly,
cowardly bushite who refuse to shoot him dead like
yesterday. LIKE ANY REAL GODLY SOLDIER WOULD regarding
Negroponte's foolishness to ponder we'd all just let him
play US dying so all completely un-informed on his
crime-ridden history as traitor spy for God criminal
Ariel Sharon's anti-Jewish lobby.

Just like Johnny would proudly serving for the innocent
as God is my sworn witness and testifier, killing
lawless evil bushite is a true freedom fighter's
pleasure! Sure America's Rush Limbaugh won't allow the
truth to be spoken for American interests being
sacrificed, but that never stopped a soldier from
attempting to sneak past him to air their absent
grievances, just as a Patriot soldier could have
executed bush and rumsfeld for 9/11, or WMD Bremer for
breaking the Army Code on stealing public assets of the
occupied nation, so thereby, guaranteeing their title of
bad guys to all, including themselves to fall cowardly
dying while foolishly only lying to themselves by not
speaking up for MY America. Cowards.


The Economic Colonization of Iraq: Illegal and Immoral

/ / the U.S. Army's own code of war, as stated in the
Army field manual "The Law of Land Warfare." [...]\ \

[Good laws stand strong for good reason, or, didn't you
know as a corporate American doomful, who silently
acquiesce under tyrannical bushite misrule, to getting
rid of American freedoms to better protect American
freedoms?, so to ungodly further whore for the attempted
escape of Condi, bush and rumsfeld from the real 9/11
mass murder crime scene leads?,

snpd

Kill bush and rumsfeld for 9/11, then un-arrested
terrorist demon Allawi as he is, a fully confessed first
degree murderer of innocent People, attempting to rob
our sworn to uphold, godly values of freedom for all,
with his, he'll just pretend murdering innocent folks
like does Kimmit can be done by laying blame wherever
without stating OUR evidence. A definate no-no where
Hammarabi is engrained, and where Johnny rulez supreme.

Get the traitor bush and you'll be thanked forever by US
who seek truth for Justice, and God for our lofty
ambitions.

Your servant and already eternal standing forever King,
The one and only,

Grim Reapahhh,

Johnny Wizard


--
snpd


http://www.antiwar.com/orig/mcgovern.php

/ / Again, it's the policy. \ \


But boy, the bushmob will sure make a killing at
sacrificing the worthless American dumfuk bush whores,
led by the, oh so patriot, professional crossed radio
circuit though, eh? Demon bush doesn't want peace,
because he has no real talent at earning a honest man's
wage, nor interest in trying to lead "his" nation away
from further plunder IF HE CAN HELP IT.


Get the enemy G. W. Bush for treason against mY Great
America!


Johnny Wizard


--
snpd

You

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Billions Swiped from Iraq.
Occupation Authorities Stash Oil Funds as Iraqi
Health Care Dies

from www.uruknet.info


/ / While $7.3 billion from the DFI money is invested in
U.S. Treasury Bills and another $1.3 in Overnight
Deposits at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the
citizens of that occupied nation are dying for want of
basic medical supplies. The U.S. occupation and
windfall profits from the oil sales have done nothing to
improve the miserable conditions at Iraqi hospitals. \ \


--


Billions Swiped from Iraq.
Occupation Authorities Stash Oil Funds as Iraqi
Health Care Dies

http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=9769&TagID=2

/ / According to CPA accounting, a total cash inflow of
more than $20.24 billion filled the DFI since it was
created on May 28, 2003. Although nearly all of the
``development'' funds came from Iraqi oil exports, the
Central Bank of Iraq had only $216 million in its DFI
account on June 20.

[...]

The largest Iraqi recipients of DFI money have been the
Ministry of Finance ($7.47 billion) and the Ministry of
Oil ($2 billion). There is, however, no recorded

disbursement of funds to the Ministry of Health.

[...]


The hospital's sewage system has largely collapsed and
is working at 10 to 20 percent of capacity. The
hospital also lacks air conditioning.

Most hospital deaths--between 15 and 20 a month--are
from secondary infection, mainly because of the
unsanitary hospital conditions. \ \


--

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jun2004/tort-j30_prn.shtml

/ / the Bush administration has sought to construct a
legal foundation for the arbitrary detention and torture
of anyone, in any part of the world. \ \

--


http://www.harktheherald.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=18696

/ / No weapons of mass destruction, and no connections
to al Qaeda.

o $151 billion of taxpayer money spent to enable this
mess in this fiscal year alone, money which came out of
the border patrol budget, the rail safety budget, the
Port Security budget, law enforcement agency budgets,
firefighter grants, the bioterrorism budget, the First
Responders budget, and more. Do you feel safer? \ \


--


http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/newyork/nyc-nybres293872872jun29,0,888963.story
?coll=nyc-nynews-print

/ / Knowing this case, and all the others like it, you
must think right away of some guy grabbed in a Baghdad
alley, who speaks an Arab language and is beaten for
answers to questions he can't understand shouted by
nitwits from Virginia who speak only hillbilly English. \ \


--

If this doesn't rank you a self made holy Patriot
warrior, committed to destroying the evil enemies of
America, the neocon nazi bush whores, nothing will.

<http://www.dawn.com/2004/06/27/int4.htm>

/ / The State Department has taken $184 million
earmarked for drinking water projects and moved it to
the budget for the lavish new US Embassy in Saddam's
former palace. Short $1 billion for the embassy, Deputy
Secretary of State Richard Armitage said he might have
to "rob from Peter in my fiefdom to pay Paul." In fact,
he is robbing Iraq's people, who, according to a recent
study by Public Citizen, are facing "massive outbreaks
of cholera, diarrhea, nausea and kidney stones" from
drinking contaminated water. \ \

--

<http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=befcde47.0406291005.3a83cbb8%40posting.google.com
&output=gplain>

/ / US occupation authority failed to account for
how it spent some $20 billion in Iraqi oil revenues,
raising suspicions of outright US theft. \ \


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Charity Says Billions Missing in Iraqi Oil Revenues
<http://www.oneworld.net/article/view/88946/1/>

/ / One says Iraq earned $10 billion, while another
cites $11.5 billion for the same period.

Christian Aid says it attempted its own calculation of
Iraq's oil revenues using publicly available figures and
came up with 13 billion dollars. \ \


--

<http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=befcde47.0406291005.3a83cbb8%40posting.google.com
&output=gplain>

/ / Thus the puppet regime that Bush proclaims a bulwark
of democracy and anti-terrorism is headed by a former
Iraqi secret police thug, who went on to organize
terrorist attacks at the behest of the CIA. \ \


--


/ / The US military says the total death toll from the
three raids is 59 to 64 people, warning that it would
not shrink from carrying out further such strikes. \ \

Kimmitt: "We will redouble our efforts to ensure that
the terrorists don't win here."


Kill Kimmitt for this. Kimmitt pushes American GIs to
die as thieving terrorists, who instead of arresting bad
guys, bomb homes of innocent families, while refusing to
go after those nazi bush bitches in the Berg film who
are whitey overweight slobs with towels on their heads.
American soldiers should be demanding by Johnny Wizard
decree, that all individuals between here, and the "FBI"
interrogation video tape of Nick Berg being questioned
prior to his execution, who stand in freedom's way, be
arrested, or executed as the enemy. Like those
terrorists too, responsible for robbing Iraq's Central
Bank, or the pilfering of public assets elsewhere by the
anti-Iraqis. KILL THE ENEMY THOMAS FOLEY.

<http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/after/2004/0120ambitions.htm>

/ / What's the upshot of the BearingPoint Plan? \ \


We must hunt down the bush bitches who are presently
departing with the billions of stolen American People
dollars that not so mysteriously went vanishing, or, the
bush bitches who as usual, freely admit being God's
enemies, to shooting innocent women and children while
eating plutonium for the richly pleasures of the demon
American cop killing antiChrist continuing, as cowards,
to let rob from their own un-defended families back home
they leave forsaken as the ungodly. A bushite nazi
soldier betrays his very own family with lies of
gallantry, while dying to leave un-arrested, those bush
has termed lawless, labeled by Kimmitt as pro-Iraqi.
Those who torture, steal, rape, and murder the
practically defenseless and innocent. Bush's new
America. Where bush bitch America is to be all left
leaderlessly for the bushite bounty of falling more
innocent gun shot victims. Kill George W. Bush, Condi,
and Donald Rumsfeld for the crimes of 9/11 as a true
American Patriot Soldier would, or die a traitor's death
by not defending your family as a coward just pretending
to be a real man or woman of honor and virtue.

As instead, the evil bushite soldier further stands by
associated to the Lawless traitors who steal to leave
remained, the humanitarian aid that was stolen and paid
through to commi Haliburton. To die warring for
rumsfeld, who while blowing up American GIs with cluster
dud, takes American tax dollars to hire deemed lawless
foreign fighting South African death squad runners, (at
a thousand dollars per each daily) who confess a history
to murdering people just because they were dark skinned
humans. Those racist murdering rumsfeld buddies, would
surely kill a American Negro soldier, as they would an
Iraqi one, no? (Where's Powell on this issue?)


/ / Private contractors covered by the blanket immunity
will also not be prosecuted under US military law. They
will, in effect, be granted a green light to commit
crimes in Iraq with total impunity. \ \


Instead of fighting for American principles, the bushite
lawless traitors murder the innocent to rifle through
the pockets of their fallen victims, true evil is the
bushite cancer. Parasites who, as enemies of God, let
the likes of rapists, or a Negroponte, a Bremer, a
Kimmitt, or a Buford Blount walk within firing range,
and refuse to take out those who intend to allow the
enemies of America, Bush, Condi, Ahmad and Rumsfeld,
escape the 9/11 murder scene back in New York City by
further sacrificing the dumfuk soldiers, dumfuks whom
are lead to be, too weak and stupid to be true blooded
Patriots committed to the cause of liberty and justice
for us all.


Get bushite.


King of America,

Johnny Wizard


--

<http://www.rense.com/general54/abandon.htm>

/ / The President and Commander in Chief has blatantly
violated all tenets of domestic and international law.
So that making an oath to "obey orders from President"
is tantamount to violating rather than defending the US
Constitution. \ \


--

<http://wsws.org/articles/2004/jun2004/iraq-j25.shtml>

/ / The move epitomizes the arrogance and criminality of
the Bush administration, which declares, in one breath,
that it is granting ``full sovereignty'' to occupied
Iraq, and in the next imposes conditions that deprive
the ``sovereign'' government of the most essential
prerequisites of sovereignty. \ \


--

<http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2004%20News%20archives/June/22o/Bombing%
20Falluja%20By%20Mike%20Whitney.htm>

/ / Twenty six people were killed when US aircraft fired
laser guided missiles at a home in Falluja. Witnesses say
that the bombing was timed so that the second missile would
hit while people were trying to excavate those still
trapped in the rubble. \ \


--

<http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FF25Ak07.html>

/ / This is exactly the point of view of a Shi'ite woman
we had met two days earlier - a former undercover
opposition militant against Saddam: "The biggest
mistake of the occupation forces was to despise our
traditions and our culture. They are not satisfied with
having bombed our infrastructure, they tried to destroy
our social system and our dignity. And this we cannot
allow. \ \


You and me sister. I'd kill evil bushite to save the
life of any, and so would any real man of honor and
dignity. The bushite liars are cowards who whore their
purpose to serve for the evil enemy of all humanity, Our
Mr. bush Jr..


--


/ / "They brought us 22 corpses, children, women and
youth," Ahmed Hassan, a cemetery worker, said after the
blast. \ \


--

/ / This despite the fact that
the United States ratified the United Nations Convention
Against Torture which states categorically that "no
exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of
war or a threat of war, internal political instability,
or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a
justification of torture." \ \

--

<http://philosophy.thereitis.org/displayarticle444.html>

/ / o On April 25, 2004, Iraq's minister of public works
told The Independent that Iraq was considering
privatizing its water industry to "fund essential
works." While the U.S. government is obligated to
ensure that water is provided to the people of Iraq, it
is telling that the Minister did not discuss going to
the CPA to demand restoration of water services nor to
Bechtel to demand that it fulfill the requirements of
its contract. Rather, she speaks immediately of
privatization. \ \

-

/ / The general who pushed for more aggressive
interrogation tactics at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison
predicted better intelligence within a month if his
strategies were adopted, according to a copy of his
classified plan obtained by USA TODAY. \ \


--


/ / According to his attorney, Brian Simpson, the Army
has justified the intensity of the abuse by maintaining
that the training had to be as ``realistic'' as
possible. \ \


--


/ / Why it was necessary to deny the protections of the
Geneva Conventions to prisoners if there was an intent
to treat them humanely is never explained by any of the
released documents. \ \


--

/ / The answer, however, is graphically indicated in one
of the memos, issued in December 2002 by Rumsfeld. It
authorized the use of a series of ``aggressive
interrogation techniques'' by military intelligence at
Guantanamo. \ \


--

/ / But for that matter, nearly 60 years after the fall
of the Third Reich, no written orders for the
extermination of European Jews have surfaced with Adolf
Hitler's signature on them. Others who were prosecuted
for war crimes at Nuremberg were convicted without
written documents proving that they had ordered
underlings to carry out the atrocities of the Nazi
regime. \ \

--

/ / "If he saw a group of people standing and talking,
he would fire the tear gas just to see them run and
cough,'' the soldier added. "He got a big kick out of
it." \ \

--


<http://www.hollywoodbitchslap.com/feature.php?feature=1150>

/ / The Carlyle Group just yesterday purchased Loews
Theaters. Hmm... Wonder why... \ \


--


/ / 3) Do you honestly not find it interesting that Bush
and the Neocons were trying to negotiate with the
Taliban for a pipeline before they changed their minds
and decided to bury them in the previously mentioned
``carpet of bombs?'' \ \


--


<http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/posts/3668811.shtml>

/ / The March 6 memo[...]


What this means in understandable English is that if a
parent, in his anxiety to know where his son goes after
choir practice, does something that will cause severe
pain to his son, it is only "torture" if the causing of
that severe pain is his objective. If his objective is
something else - such as finding out where his son goes
after choir practice - then it is not torture. \ \

--


/ / "If Aristide's ouster was unconstitutional," he said
to The Associated Press on June 9, "how can you have a
government in place that is constitutional and legal?" \ \

--


/ / She adds that Bush "has warned the American people
that the so-called war on terrorism could last for
decades. That is a very long time to live without
fundamental rights." \ \

--


/ / As with any treaty ratified by the U.S., the
Convention against Torture carries the full force of
law. \ \

/ / Note well the import of that first paragraph from
the August 1 memo. The argument leaps blithely over the
definitions of torture as described in U.S.C 2340, and
proceeds directly to the import of 2340A, the section
which demands a 20 year prison term for any American who
tortures another human being. If the person being
tortured should die, U.S.C. 2340A demands the death
penalty for the American responsible. \ \


--
<<http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/06/20/1087669844496.html>>

/ / "This was an attack on a family in a house and it killed
all of them. There are no signs that people like
Zarqawi were in the house or in Falluja," he said.
"This attack was conducted without any coordination with
us." \ \

<<http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jun212004/f2.asp>>

/ / "We inspected the damage, we looked through the
bodies of the women and children and elderly. This was
a family," he said. \ \

No, no interest in arresting defenseless innocent women
and children. Kimmit, the fascist traitor, knows Berg
was murdered by overweight whiteys, and bremer's letter
to divide the Iraqi people from the Iraqi people, served
blindly only the evil enemies to God, the ungodly
bushite. The bushites who thieve from America, her sons
and daughters, while sacrificing the earned pensions of
America's own grand parents. All for the cowardice of
the GI rising as a man with a nation, to arrest or kill
the evil un-arrested bushite parasites, done in for, as
a gift to god from US all as Humanity.


<<http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0617-01.htm>>

/ / In a country that promotes the virtues of the free
market, he died for the benefit of the war profiteers
and for very little benefit to himself. \ \


--

<<http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/NLG406A.html>>

/ / New York, June 18, 2004--The National Lawyers Guild
calls for the prosecution of President George W. Bush \ \


--

/ / "I insisted many times I am not a member of
al-Qaida, I am not a member of a terrorist
organization," he recalls. \ \


--


<<http://www.nycny.com/columns/schiff/>>

/ / US killed hundreds of Iraqi civilians in "precision"
strikes

The June 13 New York Times carried admissions by unnamed
US military and intelligence officials that underscore
the utterly criminal and murderous character of these
strikes.

[...]

A senior military officer told the Times: ``It was all
just guesswork where they were.''

[...]

This, along with the planning of an unprovoked war of
aggression, is an indictable war crime. \ \


--

<<http://www.stopwarcoalition.org/>>

/ / "You haven't begun to see evil," he said, "horrible
things done to the children of women prisoners, as the
cameras run." Words like "Rape" and "Murder" have been
used to describe the evidence which remains as yet
unreleased. \ \


Again, the evil un-arrested bushites, figure they'll
advocate the pillage, rape and murder of more innocent
people, torturing children, and US men and women of this
world will all be too afraid to hunt them down and kill
them firstly. What real man and woman wouldn't proudly
kill bushite in honor of our holy families, and in
servitude to God's ultimate righteousness regarding the
defense of the innocent? Un-arrested bushite soldiers
who rape and murder women and children are not American
soldiers, and worthy of attack for everyone concerned.


<<http://www.lidiotduvillage.com/article.php3?id_article=1771>>

/ / There was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over
the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were
dancing. \ \


--

<<http://www.talkaboutabook.com/group/rec.arts.books.tolkien/messages/262788.html>>

/ / How can a human being, a citizen and soldier of a
supposedly civilized nation, have the crassness, the
sheer insensitivity, the moral blankness and lack of
compassion to casually shrug off the death of "a handful
of women" in such a fashion? \ \


<<http://www.tompaine.com/articles/consequential_lies.php>>

/ / What were his interrogators most interested in learning
from this 19-year-old? What he could tell them about
the weapons of mass destruction. And as we know,
Abdulazzaq's case is far from unusual. \ \


-

So Torture Is Legal?

<<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44874-2004Jun15.html>>

/ / To understand the
magnitude of what may have gone on in America's secret
prisons, you don't need special security clearance or
inside information. Anyone who wants to connect the
dots can do it. \ \


--

/ / A grave breach means
the "willful killing, torture or inhuman treatment" of
prisoners. If death results, the act imposes the death
penalty. \ \

As I said, kill bush and rumsfeld, and by thought worthy
the title America.


--

<<http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/16/eveningnews/main623569.shtml>>

/ / "This was not a smoking gun, this was an audio tape
of the bullet coming out of the chamber, hitting the
victim and the killer standing over the body and
laughing about it." Russ Campbell, Nevada Power Company \ \

--

<<http://keyetv.com/finance/finance_story_168205256.html>>

/ / But officials at the FERC, the very agency charged
with regulating energy companies, has not only known
about the tapes for two years, but fought attempts to
release them. \ \


--


<<http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0614-03.htm>>

/ / George Orwell... meet Franz Kafka \ \


--

/ / In other words, the act of torture is not, in fact,
torture if the intent to torture is not there -- and,
since it's a matter of "good faith," the only person who
could affirm that torture had taken place would, in
essence, be the torturer. \ \

--

/ / Of course, that wonderfully turned phrase
"exceptional interrogations" means "torture" (except
that, by this point in the document, torture itself no
longer means torture); and while I'm no lawyer, the
concept of "patently unlawful" seems a curious one to
me. I'd like to see that brought into an everyday court
of law. (The defendant throws himself on the mercy of
the court: "I did it, judge, and it was definitely
unlawful, but I plead innocent since it was not patently
so.") \ \

--

/ / The US Justice Department, which is supposed to
uphold the law, actually sent a memo worthy of the Nazi
legal system contending the Geneva Conventions and US
laws did not apply to `terrorism suspects.' \ \

/ / Lowry Mays, honcho of Clear Channel Inc. (which owns
more than 1,200 radio stations - a third of all the
stations in America), opines that: "We're not in the
business of providing news and information We're simply
in the business of selling our customers' products." \ \

--

<<http://www.ocnus.net/artman/publish/article_12476.shtml>>

/ / It's not so much that Bush is saying that he is above
the law or even that he - regally - is the law. He is
claiming that no law can infringe on his inherent power
to do whatever he wishes \ \


--

/ / Though administration lawyers have written legal
opinions asserting Bush's unfettered powers, the concept
of ``presidential power at its absolute apex'' isn't
really about law; it's about lawlessness. \ \


--


/ / In other words, Sanchez--who is stepping down at the
end of June--and the US military high command
specifically outlined and endorsed methods of torture
that the Bush administration and Pentagon officials are
now characterizing as the work of a few perverted
individuals. \ \

--

/ / Stafford-Smith yesterday pointed to what he called
its most outrageous argument -- namely, that domestic
law does not apply to actions inside the US. Torture
can be committed inside the US. \ \

--


/ / Should the contractors be tried in U.S. court, they
may still go free, if they can prove that they carried
out government instruction as specified -- what is known
as "government contractor defense'' -- and thus are not
liable for the consequences. \ \


--

/ / That means, according to the
report, that the president himself is not bound by U.S.
law, such as the federal Torture Statute or the
constitutional ban on "cruel and unusual" punishment. \ \


--

<<http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/06/09/the_torturers_a
mong_us/>>

/ / ..is part of a larger slide toward tyranny as the Bush
administration tries to exempt itself from the rule of law. \ \

--

Liberty and Justice for All

snpd

<<http://911review.org/Sept11Wiki/Armitage,Richard.shtml>>

/ / We can assume, that Armitage received the same
warning reports about an attack as many other persons
did: George Tenet (CIA), Richard Clarke (CSG), Thomas
Pickard (FBI), Dale Watson (FBIHQ) or Henry H. Shelton
(DOD). \ \

snpd

Think this God asks: What real man of any
nationality, or religion, wouldn't kill a cowardly
bushite who wars defenseless innocent children with
cluster bombs and depleted uranium?, all so the bushmob
can further get away from stealing from their very own
grand parents they leave back home as cowards
undefended?

--

Interlude

Nick Berg was murdered in a large building with yellow
walls and a cement floor, by overweight white bigots who
of none, don't know the first thing about wearing a
turban, nor, the wise teachings of the Koran. We need
to do an investigation to conclude how many buildings in
Iraq fit those same sized projections witnessed in the
film that match up like Abu Ghraib does, before

snpd
--

www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive2004/march/
<http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive2004/march/>
<<http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive2004/march/>>
senator_we_did_not_clear_the_document.htm

/ / Michigan's Senator Carl Levin asked the CIA
director: "Did the CIA agree with the contents of the
Feith document?" "Senator, we did not clear the
document. We did not agree with the way the data was
characterized in that document." \ \

Wow! The American CIA wasn't buying the bushite lies to
sacrifice the American Gi so to rob further from the
innocent censored either. All told, the death/cost
ratio really sucks for all concerned. Therefor, why
don't all nations of Earth call a temporary truce,
acknowledge our misgivings about each other, but then
openly realize, all people, good and bad, like the
forests and the sky lines, hate the evil war mongering
demon anti-Christ, George Walker Bush more than anything
ever.

The bushites, as thoughtless degenerates, are warring
our humanity's great achievements in universal law,
pretending like, we're not even present as interested
party. Great achievements like freedom through
representation, or demanding evidence to establish
someone's guilt, have been around since the dawn of
civilization; however, today, we instead under the
supreme command of the lawless evil bushite, are
willingly ignoring the actual criminals attempting
escape from the murder scene of 9/11, to greater parts
unknown without ourselves left still falling murdered
from Your inaction. By bush and cheney order, unfinished
criminal investigations were halted regarding the murder
of thousands in America.

snpd


Who wouldn't kill the thieving evil bushite to save the
lives of the innocent they victimize for stolen profit I
ask everyone to think for yourself?

snpd


I am, King and lord of Creation.

Johnny Wizard


snpd

--

<<http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/51/f6/200406042049.5f158db0.html>>

/ / Do you have a Citibank account? How about a JP
Morgan Chase credit card? Who do you think were the
banks that moved the $3.3 trillion "missing" from the
treasury? \ \


I'm with you buddy!!!

--

/ / ``By their fruits you will recognize them. Do people
pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad
tree bears bad fruit.''-- Matthew 7:16-17 (NIV)

I don't see any ``good fruits'' in George W. Bush's
first term as President. I don't even see the
much-touted ``growth'' that Bush supposedly underwent
after 9/11. All I see is a cruel person who has
progressed from blowing up frogs to blowing up people. \ \


--


/ / As villager Mohammed stated, "While still in the
village, men were gathered together and beaten severely.
A 70-year-old man suffocated and died when they put a
black plastic hood on him." Of those detained, there
were three boys (ages 14, 15 and 16), 10 school
teachers, three human rights lawyers and 67 farmers, 14
of whom were 60 to 80 years old. All of the men were
taken to Abu Ghraib. \ \


--

<<http://jameswagner.com/mt_archives/004125.html>>

/ / Let's be clear about what this means: Gonzales was
urging--and the President adopted as policy--an end run
around federal laws. \ \

--

I Need Funding

/ / The report, dated May 5, said interrogators from a
National Guard unit attached to the 3rd Infantry
Division had "forced into asphyxiation numerous
detainees in an attempt to obtain information" during
one 10-week period last year, the newspaper said. \ \

snpd

George W. Bush!! Evil
incarnate! The most despicable excuse for humans
suffering ever surmised by real understanding.


snpd

Ultimately, Justice
for You, means Justice for me, even if you don't
understand as much.

Johnny Wizard


--

<<http://www.brushtail.com.au/nick_berg_hypothesis.html>>

/ / Were tapes made at the three known interviews of
Nick Berg by the FBI? Who did the interviews? Where
are they? \ \

--

/ / "On one stretch of highway alone, there were more
than 50 civilian cars, each with four or five people
incinerated inside, that sat in the sun for 10 or 15
days before they were buried nearby by volunteers," \ \


/ / It was our job to look into the pockets of
dead Iraqis to gather intelligence. However, time and
time again, I saw Marines steal gold chains, watches and
wallets full of money." \ \


/ / The military stressed that Iraqi security forces
entered the mosque before any Americans. \ \

--

/ / When Ground Zero firefighters and cops began getting
sick, the White House tried to block $90 million in
funding(7) for medical treatment. \ \

--


<<http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1221658,00.html>>

/ / The celebration at Mukaradeeb was to be one of the
biggest events of the year for a small village of just
25 houses. Haji Rakat, the father, had finally arranged
a long-negotiated tribal union that would bring together
two halves of one large extended family, the Rakats and
the Sabahs. \ \


Where was an attempt to instead make arrests, or ask for
surrender of the rousing party goers? Imagine that: a
bushite murders 45 or so members of your family and
immediate friends, all because it thought you might be
suspicions living in a house. Oh, but later on, the
lucky geniuses on their own found boots, a telephone,
AK-47s, cannons and bazookas and maybe a missile silo...
Yeah, and.. so what.

"They didn't even spare one child, one elderly,"

Evil bushite mattis' faulty judgement is criminal. He
tells US that we musn't be naive, he can command
soulless enemy bushite soldiers to steal from the People
for G.W. Bush, through murdering US indiscriminately,
all for the reason he stated: he can't understand why
people live with the desert in the Middle East. He
suggests we're out as pansy god lovers to ask his men to
please "apologize", instead we ask his boys to be men,
and KILL HIM rightly. Otherwise, he says he'll attempt
get away towing more bush-whore teen bitches to
murdering any or all men and boys of military age,
(while excusing the rest of Humnaity as
inconsequencial), and figures the still surving men and
boys of this world, (included as of his attachment)
won't smarten up and target him and his instead.
Because remember as ungodly bushite, and true enemy of
America, "they" isn't accountable to any rules of our
law to be arrested, as so decrees the un-American evil
demon antiChrist, Our Mr. bush Jr.. I ask China, the
EU, and proud Russians, to recognize the contempt for
all human life expressed by the evil bushite nazi forces
with their use of cluster duds in residential districts,
along with radio-active toxic waste to indiscriminately
murder the innocent as enemies to all our Humanity.
Help US destroy bushite today, and you'll be protecting
your family tomorrow from the evil bushite to get away
murdering further more of US unjustly for.


<<http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/08/1049567660897.html>>

/ / "I think they thought we wouldn't shoot kids, But we
showed them we don't care. I did what I had to do. I
don't have a big problem with it" - U.S. Army Pvt.
Nick Boggs \ \

Liar George W. Bush dares all godly men of this planet
to hunt him down and kill him. I'm in. I'm coming to
kill you George W. Bush, all by myself, I need no back
up, for I am as real men of honor and courage who stand
alone in hate for all bushite savages as the enemies of
life as we know it. Killing un-arrested George W. Bush
is truly, a gift of love to God.


<<http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/21iraq.htm>>

/ / "I don't have to apologize for
the conduct of my men." \ \


It is not his men, but himself as our enemy we're
calling out now to re-dress or kill rightly.


--

<<http://www.veteransforpeace.org/US_roops_admit_061903.htm>>

/ / Specialist Corporal Michael Richardson said: "There
was no dilemma when it came to shooting people who were
not in uniform, I just pulled the trigger. \ \


--

<<http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2004-05/21/article03.shtml>>

/ / They were shooting low on the ground and targeting
us one by one," \ \


I beg and plead for God and mercy, destroy the unholy
bushite neo-con, to save the lives of the innocent they
with your silence, unjustly depeciate for victimization.


--

<<http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/ORR.htm>>

/ / Dr Alusi said 11 of the dead were women and 14 were
children. "I want to know why the Americans targeted
this small village," \ \


snpd


--

<<http://www.bahdja.com/cgi-bin/protection/dforum/forum.pl?msg=23598>>

/ / it
might be because the executive director of the
commission, Philip Zelikow, was on Bush's transition
team during the first months of his presidency,\ \


snpd


Kill George W. Bush when you see him please, and let's
for sure try to arrest the rest.


--

<<http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/AB4BB24B-AA65-4477-95F3-BF501255D368.htm>>

/ / "The fact that they don't even condemn these
atrocities suggests that the Bush Administration is a
culprit in these crimes." \ \


--

<<http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0522-07.htm>>

/ / ...that while seven US soldiers are already facing
court martials for their conduct at Abu Ghraib, no
contractors have yet been punished despite being
implicated in the abuses in a report filed by army Major
General Antonio Taguba in late February. \ \

--

<<http://www.joehilldispatch.org/warandpeace/archives/003192.php>>

/ / A total of four men -- Steven Stephanowicz, John
Israel, Torin Nelson and Adel Nakhla -- are named in the
report.

[...] Israel, apparently misled investigators, denying
that he witnessed any misconduct. The report says that
Israel should not even have been in the place because,
he "[d]id not have a security clearance." \ \


--


<<http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=80278>>

/ / The General Accounting Office ruled yesterday that
the Bush administration broke federal law by producing
and distributing to local television stations phony news
segments about its Medicare changes. \ \


--

<<http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/press/news.aspx?id=13373>>

/ / They were released without being charged.
A US military investigation found no evidence of
wrongdoing. US Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez,
commander of ground forces in Iraq, told Reuters in a
letter he was confident an investigation had been
"thorough and objective" and its findings were sound. \ \


/ / Two of the three Reuters staff said they had been
forced to insert a finger into their anus and then lick
it, and were forced to put shoes in their mouths,
particularly humiliating in Arab culture. \ \


--

<<http://p090.ezboard.com/fthecitygatefrm9.showMessage?topicID=1127.topic>>

/ / She [Kwiatkowski] would soon conclude that the OSP
-- a pet project of Vice President Dick Cheney and
Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld -- was more akin to a
nerve center for what she now calls a ``neoconservative
coup, a hijacking of the Pentagon.'' \ \


--

<<http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/16360.html>>

/ / So, there you have it: we are sending more troops
in to get the troops out. \ \


--

<<http://cbs2.com/california/CA--Pelosi-Bush-kn/resources_news_html>>

/ / "Not to get personal about it, but the president's
capacity to lead has never been there. \ \

--

<<http://context.themoscowtimes.com/index.php?aid=133187>>

/ / But what is law in this bold new Abu Ghraib era,
when Bush's own legal team pronounces the Geneva
Convention "obsolete?" \ \


--

<<http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0520-10.htm>>

/ / [...] produce excruciating, but non-lethal, pain.
This particular suggestion comes from Harvard Law
professor Alan Dershowitz. \ \

--


<<http://lists.gp-us.org/pipermail/texgreen/2004-April/004097.html>>

/ / We have heard Secretary Colin Powell and others say,
there's no military solution to this conflict. Well
some people over there haven't heard that. And the
people who manufacture cluster bombs and helicopter gun
ships and napalm and F16s that are sent over there, they
haven't heard that either. \ \

--

<<http://www.kathryncramer.com/wblog/archives/000579.html>>

/ / The arrogance and contempt of the US military toward
ordinary Iraqis was summed up in the remarks of Major
General James Mattis, commander of the US 1st Marine
Division, \ \


--


/ / As Provance is a member of Military Intelligence,
and as it was Military Intelligence that was put in
charge of Abu Ghraib, his perspective is noteworthy. \ \

--

/ / Newsweek says Bush, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft all
"signed off on a secret system of detention and
interrogation that opened the door to such methods." \ \

--

/ / But what really struck me was Gibsons use of the
most elementary trick in the demagogues handbook: the
logical fallacy called the "appeal to ignorance." What
you dont know proves what you want to believe. \ \


/ / The US Arms Export Control Act (AECA) strictly
forbids the government from giving military assistance
to any country that violates internationally recognized
human rights. The State Department's 2001 human rights
report states: "Israeli [...] \ \

/ / However one may feel about terrorists being provided
Geneva Convention protections, only a soulless fiend can
devise a defense for the torture, rape, molestation and
abuse absorbed by innocent people in Abu Ghraib. \ \


--

/ / That important point is obscured by all the
right-wing rhetoric about the few "rotten apples" whose
prosecution should close this episode. The honor,
decency and courage of the great majority who serve
don't excuse the failures of the Pentagon and the White
House. Vague and unlawful orders, inadequate or
nonexistent training, confusing command structures,
inadequate resources and incompetent leadership
intensify the probability of atrocities by occupiers in
wartime. \ \


/ / The J.A.G. officers told Scott Horton--a partner at
Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler who chaired the bar's
human-rights committee--that the Geneva standards had
been compromised by the highest-ranking civilians in the
Defense Department. \ \


/ / Upon his surrender to Army authorities on March 15,
he immediately applied for conscientious-objector
status. The statement he filed then includes telling
anecdotes about the treatment of Iraqi prisoners at the
Al Assad airbase northwest of Baghdad, where his unit
was stationed. His recollections confirm Mr. Hersh's
reporting. \ \


--


/ / A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving Systems
Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and
fled the country. He was in such a hurry to flee
America that some of Urban Moving Systems customers were
left with their furniture stuck in storage facilities. \ \


--


/ / Perhaps instead of reinforced concrete and rerouted
highways, we should just build a medieval moat around
the Pentagon. It would protect the building as well as
ever, Senator McCain would have his target contained,
and the rest of America would have a better
understanding of how it all really works. \ \


--


/ / It is the dumb war. The product of an
administration in the White House which is not only
ignorant of history but is unable or unwilling to
recognise the present. \ \


--


/ / "The best solution is to find a way to release these
people instead of building more and more detention
facilities," he said. \ \

/ / Cuba fights on the side of life in the world; you fight
on the side of death. Whereas you kill countless people
with your indiscriminate, [...] \ \


--

/ / As an article in the May 24 issue of Newsweek,
titled ``The Roots of Torture'', has revealed, Gonzales
wrote a January 25, 2002 memo to Bush, urging him to
disregard [...], leaving US officials open to prosecution
for war crimes. \ \


--

/ / By asserting that the Taliban fighters were
indistinguishable from civilians, Gonzales has
unwittingly admitted that the invasion of Afghanistan
was a war against the Afghan people, [...] \ \


--

/ / My friend insists that the scarves worn in the video
were donned and tied by people who have no clue. \ \


/ / Writers and editors who have spent years translating
essays, films, poems, scientific articles and books by
Iranian, North Korean and Sudanese authors have been
warned not to do so by the U.S. Treasury Department
under penalty of fine and imprisonment. \ \


--


/ / Salah al-Ani, a doctor at the hospital in Ramadi,
told AP the death toll was 45. He said the wedding
guests had been firing in the air. American troops had
come to investigate and then left. At about 3 am, they
returned in helicopters and destroyed two houses. \ \


--


/ / And if their answers are not satisfactory, Congress
should follow the dictates of the Constitution and take
the proper steps to remove every wrongdoer from
government. \ \


--

/ / Back in November of 2003, retired Special Forces
master sergeant Stan Goff played the role of prophet in
an open letter he wrote to American soldiers engaged in
the occupation of Iraq. In his letter, Goff wrote:
"Bushfeld and their cronies

are parasites,

and they are
the sole beneficiaries of the chaos you are learning to
live in. They get the money. You get the prosthetic
devices, the nightmares, and the mysterious illnesses.
So if your rage needs a target, there they are,
responsible for your being there, and responsible for
keeping you there. I can't tell you to disobey...But it
is perfectly legal for you to refuse illegal orders, and
orders to abuse or attack civilians are illegal.
Ordering you to keep silent about these crimes is also
illegal." \ \


/ / So this is the Bush administration-sponsored "free
Iraq" \ \

--


/ / Reprint permission Exclusive: Shocking Details on
Abuse of Reuters Staffers in Iraq \ \

--

/ / "The [unAmerican leadership of the US]
military's conclusion of its investigation without even
interviewing the alleged victims, along with other
inaccuracies and inconsistencies in the report, speaks
volumes about the seriousness with which the [thwarted]
U.S. government is taking this issue," he wrote. [...]
U.S. officials say the abuse was carried out by a small
number of soldiers and that all allegations of abuse are
promptly and thoroughly investigated. \ \


--


/ / Q: What does the public need to know about your
experiences as a Marine? A: The cause of the Iraqi revolt
against the American occupation. What they need to know
is we killed a lot of innocent people. I think at first
the Iraqis had the understanding that casualties are a
part of war. But over the course of time, the occupation
hurt the Iraqis. And I didn't see any humanitarian
support. \ \


--


/ / If this is not cause
for investigations, dismissals, and angry statements
from congressional leaders and administration officials,
then what is? \ \


--


Prison abuse resulted from a memo signed by Bush: Newsweek
<<http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IEL20040517033311&Title=B%20R%20E
%2>>
0A%20K%20I%20N%20G%20%20%20%20N%20E%20W%20S&Topic=301&

> Top brass 'picked man who ordered torture'
>
<<http://townsvillebulletin.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,9519057%255E401,00.html
>>
>
> / / The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard
> Myers, sent General Miller from Cuba to Baghdad in August last
> year to suggest changes to prisoner interrogations. \ \

PENTAGON NEOCON CABAL ORDERED IRAQ PRISON TORTURE
<<http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=15417&sid=e52aa3dcf20a33ab37e8c
d3>>
00883ec9a


--

Soldier details inmate abuses in Abu Ghraib prison
<<http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/05/15/wir_prison001.cfm>>

/ / "A couple of the detainees kind of made an 'ah'
sound as if this hurt them or caused them some type of
pain when Davis would land on them," he said. \ \


Of the People, by the People, for the People

Will America remain silent as represented by bushite
decree towards disciple lawless Davis surviving this
conflict as America's own tentacle? Will America
succumb to excepting censorship when it comes to the
screams of mercy from the innocent and god loving I ask
you as all family men considered, again, who wouldn't
proudly kill an evil bushite to save the life of one as
intended innocent victim?

snpd

--

<<http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1216438,00.html>>

/ / "The way we treated these men was hard even for the
soldiers, especially after realising that many of these
'combatants' were no more than shepherds," he writes. \ \

--

<<http://www.cair-net.org/images/lcpl11.jpg>>


snpd
--

E-mail indicates Berg was in U.S. military's custody
<<http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/05142004/world/15863.htm>>


snpd

"Why don't we find ourselves an enemy of Allah to do
this to instead friends?"


--

From Johnny's "The best evidence to kill bush quickly"

/ / Think this: demon bush makes no public mention of where
almost half of the monthly 4 billion dollar tax payer
bill is quietly disappearing while grandma loses her
cable television, or only grandson? Is that Leadership
I ask every American Soldier to be brave and forward
this letter on terrorism to your fellow comrads
secretly. Then, we'll see... \ \

snpd

--

<<http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1216438,00.html>>

/ / "That was the normal procedure for them when
they wanted to soften up a prisoner: stuff them in the
trunk for a while and drive them around," \ \

As God would so address, this
is our beginning at living on earth free of all forms of
tyranny over the mortal minds of any.

The too incredible to be true,

servant and savior,

your friendly stranger,

the one and only,

Johnny Wizard


--

Freedom fries
<<http://film.guardian.co.uk/patterson/story/0,12830,1216033,00.html>>


--

Syrian president refuses U.S. demands
<<http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/politics/8660221.htm>>

/ / "We always ask the United States to give one
passport, one name, some evidence of this happening. So
far we have not received this." \ \

--

<<http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=6228>>


/ / UNHEEDED ALARM BELLS: The alarm was sounded.
According to the WP, last year a total of 80 military
lawyers "appealed to a senior representative of the New
York State Bar Association to try to persuade the
[rummy's] Pentagon to revise its practices" regarding
interrogation rules in Iraq. \ \

--

<<http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=510435&section
=n>>
ews

/ / Rasul and Iqbal said they were driven to falsely
confess \ \

--

<<http://www.robertscheer.com/>>

/ / It would appear that the Pentagon still doesn't want
to admit the seriousness of the problem, having now
assigned Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller to run Abu Ghraib
despite the fact that it was Miller who last summer
officially reported on conditions in Abu Ghraib and
seems to have enabled, if not authorized, the torture
that ensued in the autumn. \ \

--

The Bush Regime - Satanic Degradation
<<<http://www.rense.com/general52/wdw.htm>>>

--

<<http://toomanyreasons.vermontblogs.com/>>

/ / In a "perfect timing", an unknown group tries to
distract from Torturegate. It is linked to Ahmad Fadeel
Nazal Al-Khalayleh, known as Abu Musa'ab Al-Zarqawi, who
didn't show his face in this video. In this video, Berg
is wearing an orange jumpsuit, as US prisoners wear \ \


--

By Robert H. Reid, Associated Press
<<http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=145562&page=1>>

/ / 3. The video was dated May 11th, typical
Judeo-Masonic (CIA/MOSSAD) signature and M.O., like
9/11, and the recent 3/11 in Spain. Sorry, there is an
M.O. to this "terrorism" that matches that of
government psy-ops! Funny how they never mention the
obvious pattern of dating isn't it? And the "terroists"
signed his name to the video, though they wore hoods and
masks! (Why?) \ \


/ / SE: [...] If this boat
or some section of it needs rocking, you bet we have the
right and we have the power to do it. And we have the
power to demand it. Otherwise we are making ourselves
powerless.

JH: And if we don't do it, we don't deserve it. \ \


--

Cover-Up of Abu Ghraib Torture Puts Troops at Risk
<<http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=68720&printmode=1>>

/ / When the photos were published everyone from
President Bush to General Myers appeared dumbfounded.
On May 2, 2004, three weeks after becoming aware that
CBS had the photos, General Myers amazingly claimed he
had not read the Taguba report, saying, "It's working
its way to me." \ \

--

<<http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_government&Number=146769
3&>>
t=-1

/ / Where to begin? First, I don't recall any of those
prisoners having been tried and convicted in any court,
civilian or military, of the crimes Inhofe has
apparently convicted them of.\ \

--

<<http://americanassembler.com/newsblog/index.php?m=20040512>>

/ / As I said earlier today, I don't think I can
remember a more shameful spectacle in the United States
Congress, in my living memory, than the comments today
of James Inhofe, [..] \ \


--

War Crimes Have Doomed the Occupation
<<http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0512-06.htm>>

/ / As long as we believe in
absurdities we will commit atrocities." \ \

--

Former FBI Translator Sibel Edmonds Calls Current 9/11 Investigation
Inadequate

<http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml>>

/ / JH: The trouble is: once you make this information
public, you mess up the plan. And if one of the
investigations from Phoenix, Chicago, New York, or
Minneapolis had been followed through, let alone all
four, it would have burst the bubble.

SE: Look, Jim, they had those four pieces you
mentioned, and far more than that, believe me, far more
than that. And that has not been made public. And for
them to say that we did not have any specific
information is just outrageous. Because what were they
waiting for? An affidavit signed by bin Laden? \ \


--
snpd


Huh? "at last been disarmed..." ? How does he figure?
The equation hasn't changed. Example: The same
unaccounted anthrax, (that was disintegrated into ash),
still is not able to be measured as completely accounted
for, (never could be), but this bushwhoring war crime
apologist, tells US, it was only though the lawless
murder of our good friends and family for countless
generations, that he now attests without reason, or
evidence, to find Iraq in "fact" disarmed of it's still
nowhere to be found, weapons of mass destruction. (An
irrational reason he pronounced previous in corporately
broacasted public support of instigating heinous war
crimes against our humanity under the leadership skills
of the evil lying demon antiChrist, our Mr. bush Jr..)
Only now, after the luxuriously wealthy bushites have
begun misappropriated hundreds of billions through a
needless war to continue sacrificing true American
values, while spreading toxic waste to kill US humans
for millennia, can he now turn around and say, the
missing, as unaccounted for WMD, is nothing to get
yourself loaded, and ready to kill the evil un-arrested
bushites to save some innocent lives for. No surprise,
for as the semi-literate, would surely know of bush and
rumsfeld's complicity into 9/11 with General Ahmad. A
blatant traitor to humanity, who knows the litany of
Kissinger, and surely therefor you'd think of wmd dealer
bremer, but sides to lie foolishly to our world's public
forum in blindness, attempting to leverage the ignorance
of the unread masses on hopes he'll secretly win demon
bush's favor as dedicated bushite slave whore nazi
dumfuk.

--


/ / BILL MOYERS: Let's start with the news of the day.
This morning we learn that President Bush has kept
thousands of pages of secret documents from the Clinton
years from being turned over to the commission
investigating the 9/11 attacks. What do you make of
that? \ \

Hi Mr. Moyers. Clinton, after reviewing the facts,
stated that American Intel actually had no evidence to
publicly establish Laden's guilt for anything when the
Taliban had him arrested awaiting extradition. Example:
Barbara Bodine is the principle terror suspect in the
Cole Bombing, according also to the serving Admiral(s)
of that episode. That's right, the very same Barbara
Bodine responsible for closing the Cole investigations.
Acting much like bush and cheney did when fighting the
American FBI on ending America's unfinished work
regarding bush's business partner General Ahmad, the
still un-arrested 9/11 financier to Mohamed Atta.

snpd


You see everyone?


snpd

Johnny Wizard

--

Mutiny in Iraq

<<http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0430-14.htm>>


--

Put George W. Bush in Prison

<<http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0505-11.htm>>

--

<<http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=5&article_id=3421>>

/ / It is very strange that the Iraqi resistance
would target their own people imprisoned there. \ \


--

Telecommuting to Baghdad: The Better Way to Run a War

<<http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0503-10.htm>>

--

The Divine Calm Of George W. Bush

<<http://www.disinfo.com/site/displayarticle3211.html>>

/ / For George W. Bush, August 6, 2001, [...] But a reporter
who saw him cavorting on his Crawford ranch not long
after said, "The president was probably at the most
relaxed I've ever seen him." \ \


--

<<http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23590>>

/ / In the small town Hilla, an hour's drive south of
Baghdad, blood stains a wall at the office of the
Babylon Human Rights Organisation. It was here that
U.S. soldiers raided a community meeting where they
killed the two sheikhs and arrested two other important
community leaders.


[...] The main goal of the meeting was to find ways of
dealing with U.S. occupation without resorting to
violence, members of the human rights group say. This
was a regular topic of discussion at meetings of this
organisation, and this was known to U.S. officials,
they say. \ \

--

DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2004®

/ / French cable television station Canal Plus on
Tuesday will broadcast images, stolen in Iraq, of a US
army helicopter killing three Iraqis who do not appear
to be posing any threat, one of whom was wounded. \ \

--

'I Saw Papers That Show US Knew al-Qa'ida Would Attack Cities With
Airplanes'

<<http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0402-01.htm>>

/ / "President Bush said they had no specific
information about 11 September and that is accurate but
only because he said 11 September," she said. There
was, however, general information about the use of
airplanes and that an attack was just months away. \ \


--

<<http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2004-daily/01-05-2004/oped/o2.htm>>

/ / Similarly it's fiendishly difficult to get people to
accept the label "rebels" for those Iraqis killed by
American snipers when - as in Falluja - they turn out to
be pregnant women, 13-year-old boys and old men standing
by their front gates.\ \

--

Bush demands total impunity on war crimes committed by
his enemies of Humanity

<<http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/oct2002/icc-o12.shtml>>


--

snpd

/ / Bush spewed, "And we've had some tough fighting
because there are people who hate the idea of a free
Iraq." \ \

Free of consuming plutonium as microscopic radio-active
toxic waste that will poison life for eons? Free to not
be robbed of all our Iraqi treasures? Free of lies that
rape, pillage, or murder the good in US all left
undefended through Law principled indivisible? Free to
never consider evidence as a requirement to convince US
who is evil?, a criminal? Free to not be shot at by
bushite snipers for slumming around your newly bombed
out neighborhood? Free to learn about the profits of a
public health care system, banking, or how specifically
a progressive tax system re-generates as a living
economy now that an estimated 1000 teachers were
disappeared by more than likely WMD dealer bathist
bremer? Free to never, ever, read the first line, of
the first paragraph in the truly ancient Code of
Hammurabi?

You and who's army?

Justice is true Freedom, and as we develop through
understanding, the power to benefit humanity by
communicating these easy lessons claimed lost by the
bushite, will usher in a new old world where people who
are guilty of criminal offences will be found only so by
some sort of evidence requirement. No your not crazy,
this madness is really happening where bush has US all
convinced apparently, that we are, all of US, terrified
bush might threaten to leave us without his leadership
skills if we dare stand up for humanity to throw him in
the clink with rumsfeld for the mass murders committed
on 9/11. Bush thinks he can hoodwink me for mute, while
demanding our blind faith in himself glorified without
establishing evidence to know actually, for lest we be
though then, with the evil terrorists by trying to think
for ourselves. Is bush only as evil terrorists would be
he claims, a hater of freedom that is committing
injustices in our names irrationally?, for his reasons
confessed are not established by actual evidence for
such measurement? President bush as evil incarnate
demands the People as individuals to rise up defending
our equal rights from the needless murder of countless
thousands in our names pirated. With bush in "power" as
tyrant ruler of the never considered to be worthy,
leaves only your single voice to trumpet with US
together proclaiming, Our Mr. bush Jr., as an enemy of
America, needs to be hunted down religiously by our
police services for committing high treason on September
11th, 2001.

--

<<http://rockland.villagesoup.com/Community/Story.cfm?StoryID=22231>>

/ / Finally, she raised several red flags at the government
for the following list, all stated in her open letter to
the president: \ \


--

<<http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FD57CF75-62E8-4C43-BF2D-2D0F0F89437B.htm>>

/ / Marines said the men fired on them. A senior officer
said they had no weapons, but that with shots coming in
the men were legitimate targets because they ran. \ \

--

<<http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=1872>>


/ / CAIR also wants the Pentagon to investigate a photograph
circulating the Internet of two Iraqi boys and a U.S. soldier.

(Link to photo: <<http://www.cair-net.org/images/lcpl11.jpg>>) \ \

--

US finds strange bedfellows in UN vote on [supporting] torture

<<http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0419/p07s01-wogi.html>>

--

Bush's Torturous Logic

<<http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff05012004.html>>


--

<<http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=4686973&tid=csco&sid=
46>>
86973&mid=2503792

/ / The American attack on al-Jawlan neighborhood killed a
large number of Iraqi women and children... \ \

--

<<http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1206725,00.html>>

/ / "It's insanity," said Robert Baer, a former CIA agent,
who has examined the case, and is concerned about the private
contractors' free-ranging role. \ \


--


"Don't judge your army based on the actions of a few."

snpd


--

thestatesman.net/ page.news.php?clid=4&theme=&usrsess=1&id=41833

/ / That means money dedicated to rebuilding schools and
hospitals will, instead, fill the coffers of private firms
that supply guards, analysts, security, convoy protection. \ \

--

<<http://www.humanshields.org/print.php?sid=107>>

/ / My friend Rana was at the scene, and told me of seeing
a candy bar that the boy, Mustafa was eating when his car
was riddled with bullets by the Americans. \ \

--

REUTERS
Amnesty: Iraqis Complain of Torture by U.S. Forces

<<http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0723-01.htm>>

--

Military [freely confess] ..Violating Falluja Ceasefire

www.rense.com/general52/erdw.htm

/ / "They are bombing civilians. \ \

snpd

www.globalresearch.ca
www.whatreallyhappened.com
www.globalpolicy.org

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kerry is a satanist!!!

~Freeza Frost

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Aratzio

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Aug 31, 2004, 10:47:56 AM8/31/04
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:48:57 +0200, Charles D. Bohne
<Sp...@PasoSchweiz.de> transparently proposed:

>On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:14:10 -0600, "C.R. Osterwald" <r...@dev.null>
>wrote:
>
>>When the fanatics start setting off bombs in Swiss cities, come back
>>and again try to explain about "wars of agression."
>
>What fanatics? You mean the Bush mob?

Seeing as how the Swiss are who sold the stolen plans for the Saab
Viggen fighter to the Israeli's so they could build the Kfir I would
think there would be a certain amount of animosity toward the Swiss.
The Swiss have also brokered many of the Israeli/South African arms
deals. They are also a prime finacier for world arms trade. So when
you Swiss stop assisting and subsidizing the world arms trade then you
may get on your soap box and expound your great social programs. Until
that time Chuckweasel (you lying hypocritical con man) shut the fuck
up about things you are clueless about.

THANKYOUVERYMUCHFORYOURTIME,
'Ratz


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Daedalus

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Aug 31, 2004, 12:48:36 PM8/31/04
to
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:43:11 +0200, Charles D. Bohne
<Sp...@PasoSchweiz.de>, wrote:

>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:47:56 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>wrote:

>DON'TMENTIONIT
>C.
>
>P.S.: Any "Swiss war" that you know anything about? Any Swiss fanatics?
>Swiss terrorists?

There are Swiss Nazis of Pleaides ancestry with goat humping fetishes.
Some of them post to usenet.

Jade


Aratzio

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Aug 31, 2004, 1:12:43 PM8/31/04
to
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:43:11 +0200, Charles D. Bohne
<Sp...@PasoSchweiz.de> transparently proposed:

>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:47:56 -0700, Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>
>wrote:
>

>DON'TMENTIONIT
>C.
>
>P.S.: Any "Swiss war" that you know anything about? Any Swiss fanatics?
>Swiss terrorists?

Cowardice is your shield and you shall hide behind it, as long as you
get your 5% return on the money you loaned the combatants (both sides
usually) to buy the weapons they are using on each other. What a
hypocrite. The Swiss are as dirty as anyone and dirtier than most.

'Ratz


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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:07:31 +0200, Charles D. Bohne wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:48:36 GMT, Daedalus <ja...@net-kooks.org> wrote:
>
>>>P.S.: Any "Swiss war" that you know anything about? Any Swiss fanatics?
>>>Swiss terrorists?
>>
>>There are Swiss Nazis of Pleaides ancestry with goat humping fetishes.
>>Some of them post to usenet.
>>
>>Jade
>

> Any proof with your abstruse claim?
Any deportation to come still, coward?


> C.

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Freeza Frost

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frog is kerry's lost lovechild!

~Freeza Frost

Freeza Frost

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hey chuckwheat, can u prove yer human?

i'm better than u!

~Freeza Frost

Clarence

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"Dorothy" <n...@email.plz> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:26:39 GMT, "Robert J. Kolker"
> <robert...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Dorothy wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah right. Here the deal on the world economic system:
> >>
> >> 1. One world govt with countries as states. World council representative
of
> >> all states. World government provides all health care, insurance, public
> >> assistance and free education to everyone.
> >>
> >> 2. One world currency and one world bank with no owners.
> >
> >No owners but managers who become the de fact owners. Someone has to be
> >driving the bus.
>
> There could be managers who are not allowed by law to become owners.
>
> >> 3. Cap on personal income.
> >>
> >> 4. International law forbidding aggression among states.
> >
> >Any central government strong enough to keep the peace is strong enough
> >to enslave the weak. Be prepared for disappointment.
>
> That's not the case using the USA as an example, each state looks out for
> their own interests in accordance with federal law.
>
> >> 5. International science and technology center responsible for making
sure
> >> all knowledge is dispersed to everyone.
> >
> >Who shall pay for all this goodness if income is capped?
>
> Everyone, by a percentage.
> >
> >Bob Kolker


So you get $1,000 a month and pay $3,000 in taxes?

Who will maintain order?
You've described a dictatorial police state!

I know the UN wants to do this, but they don't have a clue!


Clarence

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"Robert J. Kolker" <robert...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dorothy wrote:
>
> >>>5. International science and technology center responsible for making
sure
> >>>all knowledge is dispersed to everyone.
> >>
> >>Who shall pay for all this goodness if income is capped?
>
> >
> >
> > Everyone, by a percentage.
>
> And suppose they don't want to pay. Aha! Now we see the violence
> inherent in the system Oi! Oi! Help, I'm being repressed!
>

And no one will work because the income is guaranteed no mater what you
contribute.


Clarence

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> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 03:20:30 GMT, Courageous <dont...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >>3. Cap on personal income.
>
> I also forgot to mention one point: if the sum of all the world's money was
> added together and equally divided among each man, woman and child, each of
> us would have an annual income of over a million dollars. So a family of 4
> would have an annual income of 4 million.
>
> This is how FAR OUT OF WACK the distribution of wealth is on this planet --
> and it IS the main problem.
> >
> >Except in nations that aren't interested, which will
> >decimate all the others economically. You'd think the
> >communists would have learned their lesson by now.
> >Take one Germany, same people, same culture, history,
> >language, and eductation. Divide it down the middle.
> >
> >On one side, put the free market. The other side,
> >communism. On one side, prosperity, happiness, and
> >freedom. The other misery, despair, tyranny, and a
> >people so desperately desiring to escape one has to
> >put up a wall with machine guns and razor wire to
> >keep them from doing so.
> >
> >In the real world, you'll never get any closer to a
> >controlled scientific experiment.
> >
> >C//


Flunked Economics too.
That number is a variable.
No production,No trade, no money!

Besides, if everyone had 4 million a year a loaf of Bread would coat $6,000


Albert

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Sep 6, 2004, 6:49:16 PM9/6/04
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Clarence wrote:
<snip>

> Flunked Economics too.
> That number is a variable.
> No production,No trade, no money!
>
> Besides, if everyone had 4 million a year a loaf of Bread would coat $6,000

If you are not already, then you should become a neo-classical
economist. Your inability to think outside the box makes you
eminently qualified.

--
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the
range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally
impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
-- George Orwell as Syme in "1984"

dtr

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>if everyone had 4 million a year a loaf of Bread would coat $6,

Not if corporations and businesses weren't allowed to maintain hidden
assets. I've been thinking about this and in order to prevent inflation and
have a permanently stable economy, it would also be requisite that the only
entities who could earn money are individual people -- corporations would be
forbidden from amassing hidden money -- corporations would have to
redistribute the wealth and their owners would earn the same 4 million that
everyone else does. New corporations would spring up -- rampantly -- in
science and technology, medicine, health all sorts of self-beneficial
corporations would suddenly find an open path. People would tend to open
corporations that interest them, and would no longer by law be able to own
corporations which exist in greed or in killing -- both would be illegal....


aaron moore

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> And that's why we need robots.
>


mike

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> > >
> > >Who shall pay for all this goodness if income is capped?
> >
> > Everyone, by a percentage.
> > >
> > >Bob Kolker
>
>
> So you get $1,000 a month and pay $3,000 in taxes?
>
> Who will maintain order?
> You've described a dictatorial police state!
>
> I know the UN wants to do this, but they don't have a clue!
>
> You already live in a 'police state', owned by multinational capital!
Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not everyone
is motivated by money, "man cannot live by bread alone" J.C.


Mike Combs

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"mike" <mike.c...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not
everyone
> is motivated by money,

No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology, and
the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist ideology.

--


Regards,
Mike Combs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Member of the National Non-sequitur Society. We may not make
much sense, but we do like pizza.


Albert

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Sep 16, 2004, 12:20:39 PM9/16/04
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Mike Combs wrote:
> "mike" <mike.c...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:cibo98$jrl$1...@titan.btinternet.com...
>
>>Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not
>> everyone is motivated by money,

> No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,

Dead wrong.

> and the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist ideology.

Dead wrong.

robert j. kolker

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Albert wrote:

>
>> No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>
>
> Dead wrong.

How many people would work if their paychecks stopped? Would they
continue working for the same employer that stiffed them?

Bob Kolker


rskiwi

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Sep 16, 2004, 2:48:35 PM9/16/04
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:20:39 -0500, Albert <alwa...@tcac.net> wrote:

>Mike Combs wrote:
>> "mike" <mike.c...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:cibo98$jrl$1...@titan.btinternet.com...
>>
>>>Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not
>>> everyone is motivated by money,
>
>> No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>
>Dead wrong.
>
>> and the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist ideology.
>
>Dead wrong.

You're right. People are motivated by their biology.

Daedalus

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No. People are motivated by the cattleprod crammed up their ass.

Jade


rskiwi

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Very true. The current world economic system is counterproductive to human
motivation, which is their biology.

Albert

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Very dishonest to snip the context (without notification) that
gave meaning to my statement.

Courageous

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>>>Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not
>>> everyone is motivated by money,

>> No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,

>Dead wrong.

Wrong? Not at all. Your average person doesn't have a belief system
so rigorous as to justify calling it an "ideology". Ideologies are
systematic beliefs, doctrines, well-thought-out things.

Anyway, money _per se_ only motivates some people, certinly not most.

At a guess, most people are motivated by what they believe money gets
or will get for them: A bigger house, a nicer plot of land, higher
quality *stuff*, nice vacations, various other luxuries, and a future
in which they do not have to toil in old age.

C//

rskiwi

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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:03:10 GMT, Courageous <dont...@spam.com> wrote:

>
>>>>Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not
>>>> everyone is motivated by money,
>
>>> No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>
>>Dead wrong.
>
>Wrong? Not at all. Your average person doesn't have a belief system
>so rigorous as to justify calling it an "ideology".

Yeah they do, every human being believes in human rights, and knows acutely
when they are being infringed upon and will fight to the death to keep their
human rights.

>Ideologies are
>systematic beliefs, doctrines, well-thought-out things.

Not always.

>Anyway, money _per se_ only motivates some people, certinly not most.

People have been brain washed by the industrial complex to believe that
money is their salvation and if they lack it they can not survive. Money
has become an idol in our world.

>At a guess, most people are motivated by what they believe money gets
>or will get for them: A bigger house, a nicer plot of land, higher
>quality *stuff*, nice vacations, various other luxuries, and a future
>in which they do not have to toil in old age.

Most people just want their own privacy of space without being forced to
work jobs they hate, pay outrageous amounts of money to governments to see
it ill spent, or being extorted by the insurance or medical industry.

rskiwi

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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:03:10 GMT, Courageous <dont...@spam.com> wrote:

>
>>>>Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not
>>>> everyone is motivated by money,
>
>>> No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>
>>Dead wrong.
>
>Wrong? Not at all. Your average person doesn't have a belief system
>so rigorous as to justify calling it an "ideology".

Yeah they do, every human being believes in human rights, and knows acutely


when they are being infringed upon and will fight to the death to keep their
human rights.

>Ideologies are


>systematic beliefs, doctrines, well-thought-out things.

Not always.

>Anyway, money _per se_ only motivates some people, certinly not most.

People have been brain washed by the industrial complex to believe that


money is their salvation and if they lack it they can not survive. Money
has become an idol in our world.

>At a guess, most people are motivated by what they believe money gets


>or will get for them: A bigger house, a nicer plot of land, higher
>quality *stuff*, nice vacations, various other luxuries, and a future
>in which they do not have to toil in old age.

Most people just want their own privacy of space without being forced to

robert j. kolker

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rskiwi wrote:

> Yeah they do, every human being believes in human rights, and knows acutely
> when they are being infringed upon and will fight to the death to keep their
> human rights.

Every human being believes in -his own human rights-. Most people do not
generalize this along the lines of the Categorical Imperitive.

Bob Kolker


rskiwi

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Sep 17, 2004, 3:30:37 AM9/17/04
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 03:23:52 -0400, "robert j. kolker" <now...@nowhere.net>
wrote:

You mean dictators don't give a flying fuck about human rights in a
repressive fascist dictatorship, such as the USA.

Albert

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No one has to read Kant to believe in the Golden Rule.

robert j. kolker

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rskiwi wrote:

> You mean dictators don't give a flying fuck about human rights in a
> repressive fascist dictatorship, such as the USA.

I have been living in this repressive fascist dictatorship for 69 years.
Why don't I feel repressed. And I make it a point to stick it to our
fearless leaders in public fora. I have never spent a day in jail, or
have I ever been arrested. Yet I have publically advocated terrorist
acts against the IRS and the families of IRS empolyees. I was only
questioned once about that. I told the Agent that I would rejoic in
seeing every tax collector dead and their childred dead of a flesh
eating disease.

Of late I have made a truce with the IRS. They are collecting the money
which someday, I hope, I hope will be used to wipe out the Moslem
population of planet Earth. The only thing I hate worse than tax
collectors is Moslems

Bob Kolker

Albert

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You're all mouth, Bob. None of your 'hatred' comes anywhere near
your love of self. Otherwise, you hypocritical coward, you would
have bombed a mosque or IRS office by now.

robert j. kolker

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Albert wrote:
> You're all mouth, Bob. None of your 'hatred' comes anywhere near your
> love of self. Otherwise, you hypocritical coward, you would have bombed
> a mosque or IRS office by now.

Love of Self is my true religion, bub. The most important thing to Me,
is Me and Mine. Anything I do for others, is a way of doing for Me. I am
physically over the hill so I leave it to the young and fit to do the
wetwork. Specialization of labor and all that. What I do is provide the
philosophical and moral basis for doing what must be done.

Like that guy William Pierce who wrote -The Turner Diaries-. He never
exploded a bomb but he inspired Tim McVeigh to blow up a building in
Oklahoma City. Before the deed comes the thought. I am in the thought
department.

Bob Kolker


Mike Combs

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"Albert" <alwa...@tcac.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Combs wrote:
>
> > No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>
> Dead wrong.
>
> > and the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist
ideology.
>
> Dead wrong.

But this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction! :)

Mike Combs

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"rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> You're right. People are motivated by their biology.

So? In our modern world, how do we obtain food, drink, shelter, and
clothing? We gots ta have money to meet our biological needs (as well as a
host of other needs above pure biology).

Mike Combs

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"rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> People have been brain washed by the industrial complex to believe that
> money is their salvation and if they lack it they can not survive.

I'd like to see you trying to make this point to a starving Third-Worlder.

Mike Combs

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"Courageous" <dont...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
> At a guess, most people are motivated by what they believe money gets
> or will get for them: A bigger house, a nicer plot of land, higher
> quality *stuff*, nice vacations, various other luxuries, and a future
> in which they do not have to toil in old age.

That's an important point. In fact, what we're discussing is actually what
we call "wealth". "Money" serves the same purpose in the real world that it
does in Monopoly: a way to keep score.

Richard

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Sep 17, 2004, 1:38:35 PM9/17/04
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mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti wrote...

> "rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>
> > People have been brain washed by the industrial complex to believe that
> > money is their salvation and if they lack it they can not survive.
>
> I'd like to see you trying to make this point to a starving Third-Worlder.

What a starving third-worlder needs is food, eh? All the money in
the world won't buy you food if there's none of it around.

--
Globalists want a world of China's labor rate and US retail prices.

Mike Combs

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"Richard" <rh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti wrote...
> > "rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >
> > > People have been brain washed by the industrial complex to believe
that
> > > money is their salvation and if they lack it they can not survive.
> >
> > I'd like to see you trying to make this point to a starving
Third-Worlder.
>
> What a starving third-worlder needs is food, eh? All the money in
> the world won't buy you food if there's none of it around.

OK, you're making a good point here. But I'm wondering if a starving
Third-Worlder handed some money couldn't find a way to get to a place where
there was food.

I think my main motivation for making the comment is that I've noticed it
tends to be the people who already have plenty of wealth who try to argue
that wealth isn't so important.

Richard

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mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti wrote...

> "Richard" <rh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti wrote...
> > > "rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > People have been brain washed by the industrial complex to believe
> > > > that money is their salvation and if they lack it they can not
> > > > survive.
> > >
> > > I'd like to see you trying to make this point to a starving
> > > Third-Worlder.
> >
> > What a starving third-worlder needs is food, eh? All the money in
> > the world won't buy you food if there's none of it around.
>
> OK, you're making a good point here. But I'm wondering if a starving
> Third-Worlder handed some money couldn't find a way to get to a place where
> there was food.
>
> I think my main motivation for making the comment is that I've noticed it
> tends to be the people who already have plenty of wealth who try to argue
> that wealth isn't so important.

And that's a good point. As Earl Nightingale said, "Money may not
buy happiness, but it provides more food, clothing, and nice places
to live than poverty ever will."

However, there is a way to structure your life so that money has a
very subordinate role. You might do a web search on consumerism if
you'd like to read more about that point of view.

KittyKat

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"rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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No one is forcing YOU to work if you hate it so much. But then if no one
worked for a living you would have no money to collect from in welfare
cheques, doctors or nurses most of the time don't LOVE doing what they do
for a living. As for insurance companies, who would you SUE if they ran over
you with the garbage truck????
There is NO free ride for anyone, why should YOU be the exception?


KittyKat

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"rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:03:10 GMT, Courageous <dont...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>>Having a universal income does not mean that no one would work, not
>>>>> everyone is motivated by money,
>>
>>>> No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>>
>>>Dead wrong.
>>
>>Wrong? Not at all. Your average person doesn't have a belief system
>>so rigorous as to justify calling it an "ideology".
>
> Yeah they do, every human being believes in human rights, and knows
> acutely
> when they are being infringed upon and will fight to the death to keep
> their
> human rights.
>
>>Ideologies are
>>systematic beliefs, doctrines, well-thought-out things.
>
> Not always.
>
>>Anyway, money _per se_ only motivates some people, certinly not most.
>
> People have been brain washed by the industrial complex to believe that
> money is their salvation and if they lack it they can not survive. Money
> has become an idol in our world.

Do you BUY your groceries and everyday necessities?? If so do you PAY for
them or expect it as a handout freebie??? Surely you are not suggesting
everyone should work for FREE? What if they all refuse to be slaves? Money
or some other form of barter for goods and services has been around for over
2000 years.

>>At a guess, most people are motivated by what they believe money gets
>>or will get for them: A bigger house, a nicer plot of land, higher
>>quality *stuff*, nice vacations, various other luxuries, and a future
>>in which they do not have to toil in old age.
>
> Most people just want their own privacy of space without being forced to
> work jobs they hate, pay outrageous amounts of money to governments to see
> it ill spent, or being extorted by the insurance or medical industry.

Once again if you hate your job quit and stay home in your house. I hope its
paid for and you do not need any necessities such as food, water, heat or
clothing.


KittyKat

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you talk as if the only country that does such things is the USA. Almost
EVERY country and society has their dictators, as they did for the past 2000
years.Did you just realize this recently????


Albert

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Sep 17, 2004, 9:38:50 PM9/17/04
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So, you hate your job also and think that you are heroic for
enduring it without complaint.

Albert

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Sep 17, 2004, 9:42:53 PM9/17/04
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KittyKat wrote:
<snip>

> Do you BUY your groceries and everyday necessities?? If so do you PAY for
> them or expect it as a handout freebie??? Surely you are not suggesting
> everyone should work for FREE? What if they all refuse to be slaves? Money
> or some other form of barter for goods and services has been around for over
> 2000 years.

You seem to be obsessed with the idea that someone might get
something for free.

<snip>


> Once again if you hate your job quit and stay home in your house. I hope its
> paid for and you do not need any necessities such as food, water, heat or
> clothing.

You seem to find it impossible to imagine a society where people
enjoy their chosen work.

Ugly Bob

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"Mike Combs" <mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti>
wrote in message news:cif5pj$1u8$1...@home.itg.ti.com...

> "Albert" <alwa...@tcac.net> wrote in message
> news:10kji7p...@corp.supernews.com...
>> Mike Combs wrote:
>>
>> > No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>>
>> Dead wrong.
>>
>> > and the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist
> ideology.
>>
>> Dead wrong.
>
> But this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction! :)

No, it isn't!

rskiwi

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Sep 18, 2004, 1:52:11 PM9/18/04
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:33:31 -0700, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Mike Combs" <mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti>
>wrote in message news:cif5pj$1u8$1...@home.itg.ti.com...
>> "Albert" <alwa...@tcac.net> wrote in message
>> news:10kji7p...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Mike Combs wrote:
>>>
>>> > No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>>>
>>> Dead wrong.
>>>
>>> > and the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist
>> ideology.
>>>
>>> Dead wrong.
>>
>> But this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction! :)
>
> No, it isn't!

Yeah it is, all social ideology is motivated by money.

No social ideology to date has been motivated by anything order than greed.

Ugly Bob

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Sep 18, 2004, 3:40:18 PM9/18/04
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"rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:33:31 -0700, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike Combs" <mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti>
>>wrote in message news:cif5pj$1u8$1...@home.itg.ti.com...
>>> "Albert" <alwa...@tcac.net> wrote in message
>>> news:10kji7p...@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> Mike Combs wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>>>>
>>>> Dead wrong.
>>>>
>>>> > and the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist
>>> ideology.
>>>>
>>>> Dead wrong.
>>>
>>> But this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction! :)
>>
>> No, it isn't!
>
> Yeah it is, all social ideology is motivated by money.
>
> No social ideology to date has been motivated by anything order than
> greed.

No, it isn't!

rskiwi

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Sep 18, 2004, 4:03:32 PM9/18/04
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:40:18 -0700, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"rskiwi" <yc...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:c9tok0ljfpa83hpbi...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:33:31 -0700, "Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Combs" <mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti>
>>>wrote in message news:cif5pj$1u8$1...@home.itg.ti.com...
>>>> "Albert" <alwa...@tcac.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:10kji7p...@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> Mike Combs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > No, but people are more motivated by money than they are by ideology,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dead wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> > and the failure to realize this is the major failing of socialist
>>>> ideology.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dead wrong.
>>>>
>>>> But this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction! :)
>>>
>>> No, it isn't!
>>
>> Yeah it is, all social ideology is motivated by money.
>>
>> No social ideology to date has been motivated by anything order than
>> greed.
>
>No, it isn't!

yeah it is.
>

Mike Combs

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Sep 20, 2004, 1:02:52 PM9/20/04
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"Ugly Bob" <ugly_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Combs" <mike...@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti>
> wrote in message news:cif5pj$1u8$1...@home.itg.ti.com...
> >
> > But this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction! :)
>
> No, it isn't!

Shortly after my daughter learned to talk, she learned the joys of
contradiction. At quite a young age, I could get through a fair part of the
Argument Clinic sketch with her.

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