Now that the UfO cover-up is over, what do we do about the "debunker problem?"
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
now readily admit ETs are real and are in contact with various
extraterrestrial races, there remains one thorny problem. As the
President of HACA (The Human-Alien Contact Agenda) Sir Arthur C.B.E.
Wholelfaffers A.S.A. recently asked at a forum for the Honest
Researchers and Physicists forum, "what exactly are we going to do
with this horrible truth-terror threat known as UFO debunkers?."
Continuing on, Wholeaffers recommended, "I guess there is no easy way
out of this, we have to find a solution and quick. That means, of
course, the FINAL solution to the debunker problem. They will simply
have to be FORCED into FEMA camps and guarded so they can never again
walk amongst us civil, decent humans. After that, who knows, perhaps
we can have them work in the plutonium mines or something."
The conference ended on the upbeat note!!!
Hagar
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
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So, you held a circle-jerk at the end .....
Sir Gilligan Horry
Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote:
>Now that the UFO cover-up is now officially over, and all countries
>now readily admit ETs are real and are in contact with various
>extraterrestrial races, there remains one thorny problem. As the
>President of HACA (The Human-Alien Contact Agenda) Sir Arthur C.B.E.
>Wholelfaffers A.S.A. recently asked at a forum for the Honest
>Researchers and Physicists forum, "what exactly are we going to do
>with this horrible truth-terror threat known as UFO debunkers?."
We pass them all on to kind Miss "Mary Poppins"
(real name Mary Jones) ... (the owner of a bar in Panama)
(USA owned of course)
Or those that want to live with their wife, can do.
Besides, I was this close... >>> /
to becoming General Commander UFO Debunker
for the good of all Humanity !!!
So do unto others as you would do unto others!
P.S.
UFOs are real, thanks to America, England, Ireland, Australia, New
Zealand, Germany, Japan, and other special countries.
Keep in Contact Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA !
H.
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
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Now tell me this is not the ranting of an insane idiot.
H.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:26:21 -0800 (PST), "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
>
Okay, we still have a MAJOR, MAJOR problem on our hands. The public
would just like to do away with these truth-terrorists, and I am not
totally against that idea. Although I am really a friend of the
debunkers and truly feel that we can keep them under lock and key at
the FEMA facilities. It is true that there is always the possibility
that a debunker can escape and contaminate our civil society, but it
is a risk that I am willing to take. But if the public votes to fry
them, than I will follow what the majority wants, that is known as
democracy!! SO know we need to get cracking. All the world's
military's are joining up to fight the War Against Truth-Terrorism,
and not a second too soon. Now that the UFO cover-up has ended, the
debunkers are planning to destroy THIS ISLAND EARTH, we simply cannot
and WILL NOT allow this to happen. Even "H"eroin is planning evil
acts against honest researchers and concerned citizens. Debunkers are
EVIL and get their orders from the DEVIL. This has been proven!!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message
Not at all, it makes perfect sense. These truth-terrorists have one
simple goal: the elimination of ALL MANKIND. We cannot allow these
bums to achieve their twisted aims!! Hopefully very soon, the Top
General will use atomics to flush out the debunker strongholds and
eliminate this horrible twisted threat once and for all. There is
only one group stopping all peoples from living in peace: the debunker
(and their ilk). OPEL-REDU: Operation Eliminate Remaining Debunkers
will start up once again and THIS ISLAND EARTH will be free once and
for all. A glorious day is approaching, a day of victory, a day of
liberty, a day of freedom and a day without the threat of debunkers!
Hallelujah!!
H.
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
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Goofier than a whorehouse cat.
H.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
Indeed, debunkers ARE, this is why we must not waver or be indecisive
in our fight against the debunkers and their ilk. spOOks are
obviously infiltrating these groups, their usual mission of
disinformation will NOT succeed.
We are winning the war against truth-terror. OPEL-REDU is continuing
on, and we will eventually win. Debunkes are wily and crafty but
ultimately dogmatic and stupid, the proof are spOOks like you,
"H"eroin, and your friends: Borsch, Adams, Sagan, of course are all
dead. They were killed from "within."
National Emergency -Executive Orders!
From: John_...@ccm.jf.intel.com (John Kirby)
EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL EXPOSURE LAW--(Already Passed by Congress)
On October 5, 1982, Dr. Brain T. Clifford of the Pentagon announced at
a press
conference ("The Star", New York, Oct. 5, 1982) that contact between
U.S. citizens and extra-terrestrials or their vehicles is strictly
illegal. According to a law already on the books: (Title 14, Section
1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations, adopted on July 16, 1969,
before the Apollo moon shots), anyone guilty of such contact
automatically becomes a wanted criminal to be jailed for one year and
fined $5,000.
Jim Keith and Art Wholeflaffer carefully explain:
The Constitution of the United States is meant to provide a bulwark
against tyrannical assaults on the American public by its own
government, but the Constitution has over the years been repeatedly
violated and sidestepped to provide the controllers almost all the
power they crave. One matter in which the continual state of
emergency in this country be succeeding presidents, a condition which
has been in force without exception for over 40 years.
The "Special committee on the Termination of the National Emergency"
in 1973 provided two studies to Congress detailing this "continuing
emergency." They stated that "...the people of the U.S. have lived
all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, freedoms and
governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have been
abridged by laws brought into force by states of national
emergency."
Senator Church of Idaho commented on this incredible state of affairs,
saying that "since 1933 it has been Congress' habit to delegate
extensive emergency authority and not to set a terminating date.
Consequently, the U.S. now has on the book at least 470 significant
emergency powers statutes without time limitations. These statutes
delegate to the President extensive discretionary powers which affect
the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing ways.
This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to
rule this country without reference to normal constitutional
processes. These emergency powers statutes are invoked by a
presidential declaration of a state of national emergency. The U.S.
has been in such a state of declared national emergency since March 9,
1933. In addition to the national emergency, there is also the
national emergency proclaimed by Truman on December 16, 1950, plus
Nixon's declarations on March 23, 1970 and August 15, 1971.
The Special Committee's report additionally noted that: "At the end
of the Korean war the official state of emergency was not terminated.
It has not yet been terminated. This is, for all practical purposes,
a permanent state of emergency. Over the course of at least 40 years,
Presidents have had available an enormous, seemingly, expanding and
never-ending range of emergency powers. These prerogative powers
appear to be virtually unlimited. Because Congress and the public are
unaware of the extent of these emergency powers, these has never been
any notable congressional or public objection made to this state of
affairs. Nor has the courts imposed significant limitations.
Congress should therefore act in the near future to terminate
officially the states of national emergency now in effect"
Such were the recommendations of the committee, although congressional
representatives did not fall all over themselves to act on them.
Indeed, since the issuing of that report, American presidents have
continued to enact additional Emergency Orders, providing themselves
and their successors with virtually unlimited emergency powers.
The Executive Orders and Presidential directives are scrawled by
Presidents of the United States without benefit of review of the
people or Congress. This allows Presidents to unlawfully delegate to
themselves powers which the Constitution rightfully denies, on the
pretext that there is an "emergency" taking place which they need to
respond to. Here are the Executive Orders which the President can
proclaim under any ***undeclared emergency*** What is an "undeclared
emergency"? How about an ALIEN INVASION??
EO 10995, authorizing the suspension of the freedom of speech and the
commandeering of all communication media. (Like this one)
EO 10997, authorizing the takeover of electrical systems and other
fuel sources.
EO 10998, providing for the government control of food sources,
including farms.
EO 10999, which authorizes the control or confiscation of the nation's
transportation sources, public and private. (Keep a good pair of
running shoes around)
EO 11000, which gives the government the right to form work brigades
of citizens. (Does this sound like fun, sheeple?)
EO 1100, providing for the takeover of all health, education, and
welfare functions and facilities.
EO 11002, authorizing a national registering of the populace. (Sounds
like the ol' U.S.S.of A.)
EO 11003, authorizing the takeover of all airplanes and airports.
EO 11004, which gives government the mandate to relocate populations
from one area to another. (Like after World War Three-coming soon to
a planet near you!)
EO 11005, which provides for the government to take over railways,
waterways, and public storage facilitates. (Do you still want to vote
Rebuplicrat or Demopublican?)
EO 12148, authorizing the Federal Emergency Management Agency to take
over the executive functions of the government. (I thought FEMA just
helped victims of hurricanes, floods and disasters like that.)
Ex-President Clinton has signed an executive order that subjects
"suspects" arrested for a federal offense to drug tests. If refused by
the suspect he is incarcerated based "solely" on his refusal of the
test. Now anyone who can implement this type of Nazism, is capable of
anything. Furthermore, there must be a " super-constitutional force of
law" behind these executive orders, or this would not be possible. If
nothing else the process and authority behind these executive orders
needs to be CAREFULLY investigated.
Current President Bush, who LOST the election but had the Supremely
Political Court install him as Dictator-For-Life, has implemented
these LAWS as part of the Un-Patriot Act #2:
Here is a quick thumbnail sketch of just some of the draconian
measures
encapsulated within this tyrannical legislation:
SECTION 501 (Expatriation of Terrorists) expands the Bush
administration's
"enemy combatant" definition to all American citizens who "may" have
violated any provision of Section 802 of the first Patriot Act.
(Section
802 is the new definition of domestic terrorism, and the definition is
"any
action that endangers human life that is a violation of any Federal or
State law.") Section 501 of the second Patriot Act directly connects
to
Section 125 of the same act. The Justice Department boldly claims that
the
incredibly broad Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act isn't broad
enough and that a new, unlimited definition of terrorism is needed.
Under Section 501 a US citizen engaging in lawful activities can be
grabbed
off the street and thrown into a van never to be seen again. The
Justice
Department states that they can do this because the person "had
inferred
from conduct" that they were not a US citizen. Remember Section 802 of
the
First USA Patriot Act states that any violation of Federal or State
law can
result in the "enemy combatant" terrorist designation.
SECTION 201 of the second Patriot Act makes it a criminal act for any
member of the government or any citizen to release any information
concerning the incarceration or whereabouts of detainees. It also
states
that law enforcement does not even have to tell the press who they
have
arrested and they never have to release the names.
SECTION 301 and 306 (Terrorist Identification Database) set up a
national
database of "suspected terrorists" and radically expand the database
to
include anyone associated with suspected terrorist groups and anyone
involved in crimes or having supported any group designated as
"terrorist."
These sections also set up a national DNA database for anyone on
probation
or who has been on probation for any crime, and orders State
governments to
collect the DNA for the Federal government.
SECTION 312 gives immunity to law enforcement engaging in spying
operations
against the American people and would place substantial restrictions
on
court injunctions against Federal violations of civil rights across
the
board.
SECTION 101 will designate individual terrorists as foreign powers and
again strip them of all rights under the "enemy combatant"
designation.
SECTION 102 states clearly that any information gathering, regardless
of
whether or not those activities are illegal, can be considered to be
clandestine intelligence activities for a foreign power. This makes
news
gathering illegal.
SECTION 103 allows the Federal government to use wartime martial law
powers
domestically and internationally without Congress declaring that a
state of
war exists.
SECTION 106 is bone-chilling in its straightforwardness. It states
that
broad general warrants by the secret FSIA court (a panel of secret
judges
set up in a star chamber system that convenes in an undisclosed
location)
granted under the first Patriot Act are not good enough. It states
that
government agents must be given immunity for carrying out searches
with no
prior court approval. This section throws out the entire Fourth
Amendment
against unreasonable searches and seizures.
SECTION 109 allows secret star chamber courts to issue contemp charges
against any individual or corporation who refuses to incriminate
themselves
or others. This sections annihilate the last vestiges of the Fifth
Amendment.
SECTION 110 restates that key police state clauses in the first
Patriot Act
were not sunsetted and removes the five year sunset clause from other
subsections of the first Patriot Act. After all, the media has told
us:
"this is the New America. Get used to it. This is forever."
SECTION 111 expands the definition of the "enemy combatant"
designation.
SECTION 122 restates the government's newly announced power of
"surveillance without a court order."
SECTION 123 restates that the government no longer needs warrants and
that
the investigations can be a giant dragnet-style sweep described in
press
reports about the Total Information Awareness Network. One passage
reads,
"thus the focus of domestic surveillance may be less precise than that
directed against more conventional types of crime."
*Note: Over and over again, in subsection after subsection, the second
Patriot Act states that its new Soviet-type powers will be used to
fight
international terrorism, domestic terrorism and other types of crimes.
Of
course the government has already announced in Section 802 of the
first USA
Patriot act that any crime is considered domestic terrorism.
SECTION 126 grants the government the right to mine the entire
spectrum of
public and private sector information from bank records to educational
and
medical records. This is the enacting law to allow ECHELON and the
Total
Information Awareness Network to take break down any and all walls of
privacy.
The government states that they must look at everything to "determine"
if
individuals or groups might have a connection to terrorist groups. As
you
can now see, you are guilty until proven innocent.
SECTION 127 allows the government to takeover coroners' and medical
examiners' operations whenever they see fit. See how this is like Bill
Clinton's special medical examiner he had in Arkansas that ruled that
people had committed suicide when their arms and legs had been cut
off.
SECTION 128 allows the Federal government to place gag orders on
Federal
and State Grand Juries and to take over the proceedings. It also
disallows
individuals or organizations to even try to quash a Federal subpoena.
So
now defending yourself will be a terrorist action.
SECTION 129 destroys any remaining whistleblower protection for
Federal
agents.
SECTION 202 allows corporations to keep secret their activities with
toxic
biological, chemical or radiological materials.
SECTION 205 allows top Federal officials to keep all their financial
dealings secret, and anyone investigating them can be considered a
terrorist. This should be very useful for Dick Cheney to stop anyone
investigating Haliburton.
SECTION 303 sets up national DNA database of suspected terrorists. The
database will also be used to "stop other unlawful activities." It
will
share the information with state, local and foreign agencies for the
same
purposes.
SECTION 311 federalizes your local police department in the area of
information sharing.
SECTION 313 provides liability protection for businesses, especially
big
businesses that spy on their customers for Homeland Security,
violating
their privacy agreements. It goes on to say that these are all
preventative
measures - has anyone seen Minority Report? This is the access hub for
the
Total Information Awareness Network.
SECTION 321 authorizes foreign governments to spy on the American
people
and to share information with foreign governments.
SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition process and allows
officers of the Homeland Security complex to extradite American
citizens
anywhere they wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly take
individuals out of foreign countries.
SECTION 402 is titled "Providing Material Support to Terrorism." The
section reads that there is no requirement to show that the individual
even
had the intent to aid terrorists.
SECTION 403 expands the definition of weapons of mass destruction to
include any activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce.
SECTION 404 makes it a crime for a terrorist or "other criminals" to
use
encryption in the commission of a crime.
SECTION 408 creates "lifetime parole" (basically, slavery) for a whole
host
of crimes.
SECTION 410 creates no statute of limitations for anyone that engages
in
terrorist actions or supports terrorists. Remember: any crime is now
considered terrorism under the first Patriot Act.
SECTION 411 expands crimes that are punishable by death. Again, they
point
to Section 802 of the first Patriot Act and state that any terrorist
act or
support of terrorist act can result in the death penalty.
SECTION 421 increases penalties for terrorist financing. This section
states that any type of financial activity connected to terrorism will
result to time in prison and $10-50,000 fines per violation.
SECTIONS 427 sets up asset forfeiture provisions for anyone engaging
in
terrorist activities.
- - - - - - -
The Extra-Terrestrial Exposure Law
On 16 July 1969, a United States law was passed called the
"Extra-Terrestrial Exposure Law" that made it illegal for the
public to come in contact with extra-terrestrials or their
vehicles. (Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal
Regulations). Anyone found guilty of such contact could face up
to one year imprisonment as well as a fine of $5000. Also, any
individual who had been "exposed" could be quarantined under
armed guard by the NASA administrator without a hearing.
The law was passed originally to protect Earth from possible
biological contamination resulting from the US Apollo Space
Program and other space exploration programs. It has been
suggested by researchers and scientists that the U.S. government
was very concerned that contact with extra-terrestrial bacteria
could result in a worldwide plague. The immune system of human
beings wouldn't be able to fight off extra-terrestrial bacteria,
so therefore any kind of "extra-terrestrial exposure" was taken
very seriously.
People in the UFO community especially were alarmed with the law
because its broad definitions could allow the US government to
prosecute people in NASA as well as individuals of the general
public who come into contact with extra-terrestrials and their
vehicles.
UFO and ET believers found it interesting that in one hand the
government was denying they had any interest in extra-
terrestrials, yet they had a law which forbid contact with ETs
and their craft.
1211.100 Title 14 - Aeronautics and Space
Part 1211 - Extra-terrestrial Exposure
1211.100 - Scope
This part establishes:
# NASA policy, responsibility and authority to guard the Earth
against any harmful contamination or adverse changes in its
environment resulting from personnel, spacecraft and other
property returning to the Earth after landing on or coming
within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body; and
# security requirements, restrictions and safeguards that are
necessary in the interest of national security.
1211.101 - Applicability
The provisions of this part to all NASA manned and unmanned
space missions which land or come within the atmospheric
envelope of a celestial body and return to the Earth.
1211.102 - Definitions
# "NASA" and the "Administrator" mean, respectively, the
National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the
Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space
Administration or his authorized representative.
# "Extra-terrestrially exposed" means the state of condition of
any person, property, animal or other form of life or matter
whatever, who or which has:
1. Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope or
any other celestial body
2. Touched directly or been in close proximity to (or been
exposed indirectly to) any person, property, animal or other
form of life or matter who or which has been
extra-terrestrially exposed by virtue of paragraph (b)(1) of
this section. For example, if person or thing "A" touches
the surface of the Moon, and on "A's" return to Earth, "B"
touches "A" and, subsequently, "C" touches "B", all of these
- "A" through "C" inclusive - would be extra-terrestrially
exposed ("A" and "B" directly; "C" indirectly).
3. "Quarantine" means the detention, examination and
decontamination of any persons, property, animal or other
form of life or matter whatever that is extra-terrestrially
exposed, and includes the apprehension or seizure of such
person, property, animal or other form of life or matter
whatever.
4. "Quarantine period" means a period of consecutive calendar
days as may be established in accordance with 1211.104
Administrative actions.
The Administrator or his designee..shall in his discretion:
# 1. Determine the beginning and duration of a quarantine period
with respect to any space mission; the quarantine period as it
applies to various life forms will be announced.
2. Designate in writing quarantine officers to exercise
quarantine authority.
3. Determine that a particular person, property, animal, or
other form of life or matter, whatever is extra-terrestrially
exposed and quarantine such person, property, animal, or other
form of life or matter whatever. The quarantine may be based
only on a determination, with or without the benefit of a
hearing, that there is probable cause to believe that such
person, property, animal or other form of life or matter
whatever is extra-terrestrially exposed.
4. Determine within the United States or within vessels or
vehicles of the United States the place, boundaries, and rules
of operation of necessary quarantine stations.
5. Provide for guard services by contract or otherwise, as many
be necessary, to maintain security and inviolability of
quarantine stations and quarantined persons, property, animals
or other form of life or matter whatever.
6. Provide for the subsistence, health and welfare of persons
quarantined under the provisions of this part.
7. Hold such hearings at such times, in such manner and for
such purposes as may be desirable or necessary under this part,
including hearings for the purpose of creating a record for use
in making any determination under this part for the purpose of
reviewing any such determination.
#
1. During any period of announced quarantine, no person shall
enter or depart from the limits of the quarantine station
without permission of the cognizant NASA officer. During such
period, the posted perimeter of a quarantine station shall be
secured by armed guard.
2. Any person who enters the limits of any quarantine station
during the quarantine period shall be deemed to have consented
to the quarantine of his person if it is determined that he is
or has become extra-terrestrially exposed.
3. At the earliest practicable time, each person who is
quarantined by NASA shall be given a reasonable opportunity to
communicate by telephone with legal counsel or other persons of
his choice.
1211.107 Court or other process
# NASA officers and employees are prohibited from discharging
from the limits of a quarantine station any quarantined person,
property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever during
order or other request, order or demand an announced quarantine
period in compliance with a subpoena, show cause or any court or
other authority without the prior approval of the General
Counsel and the Administrator.
# Where approval to discharge a quarantined person, property,
animal or other form of life or matter whatever in compliance
with such a request, order or demand of any court or other
authority is not given, the person to whom it is directed shall,
if possible, appear in court or before the other authority and
respectfully state his inability to comply, relying for his
action on this 1211.107.
1211.108 Violations
Whoever willfully violates, attempts to violate, or conspires to
violate any provision of this part or any regulation or order
issued under this part or who enters or departs from the limits
of a quarantine station in disregard of the quarantine rules or
regulations or without permission of the NASA quarantine officer
shall be fined not more that $5,000 or imprisoned not more than
1 year, or both.
On 16 July 1969, a United States law was passed called the
"Extra-Terrestrial Exposure Law" that made it illegal for the
public to come in contact with extra-terrestrials or their
vehicles. (Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal
Regulations). Anyone found guilty of such contact could face up
to one year imprisonment as well as a fine of $5000. Also, any
individual who had been "exposed" could be quarantined under
armed guard by the NASA administrator without a hearing.
The law was passed originally to protect Earth from possible
biological contamination resulting from the US Apollo Space
Program and other space exploration programs. It has been
suggested by researchers and scientists that the U.S. government
was very concerned that contact with extra-terrestrial bacteria
could result in a worldwide plague. The immune system of human
beings wouldn't be able to fight off extra-terrestrial bacteria,
so therefore any kind of "extra-terrestrial exposure" was taken
very seriously.
People in the UFO community especially were alarmed with the law
because its broad definitions could allow the US government to
prosecute people in NASA as well as individuals of the general
public who come into contact with extra-terrestrials and their
vehicles.
UFO and ET believers found it interesting that in one hand the
government was denying they had any interest in extra-
terrestrials, yet they had a law which forbid contact with ETs
and their craft.
1211.100 Title 14 - Aeronautics and Space Part 1211 - Extra-
terrestrial Exposure 1211.100 - Scope
This part establishes:
NASA policy, responsibility and authority to guard the Earth
against any harmful contamination or adverse changes in its
environment resulting from personnel, spacecraft and other
property returning to the Earth after landing on or coming
within the atmospheric envelope of a celestial body; and
security requirements, restrictions and safeguards that are
necessary in the interest of national security.
1211.101 - Applicability
The provisions of this part to all NASA manned and unmanned
space missions which land or come within the atmospheric
envelope of a celestial body and return to the Earth.
1211.102 - Definitions
"NASA" and the "Administrator" mean, respectively, the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration and the Administrator of
the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or his
authorized representative. "Extra-terrestrially exposed" means
the state of condition of any person, property, animal or other
form of life or matter whatever, who or which has: Touched
directly or come within the atmospheric envelope or any other
celestial body Touched directly or been in close proximity to
(or been exposed indirectly to) any person, property, animal or
other form of life or matter who or which has been extra-
terrestrially exposed by virtue of paragraph (b)(1) of this
section. For example, if person or thing "A" touches the surface
of the Moon, and on "A's" return to Earth, "B" touches "A" and,
subsequently, "C" touches "B", all of these - "A" through "C"
inclusive - would be extra-terrestrially exposed ("A" and "B"
directly; "C" indirectly). "Quarantine" means the detention,
examination and decontamination of any persons, property, animal
or other form of life or matter whatever that is extra-
terrestrially exposed, and includes the apprehension or seizure
of such person, property, animal or other form of life or matter
whatever. "Quarantine period" means a period of consecutive
calendar days as may be established in accordance with 1211.104
Administrative actions.
The Administrator or his designee..shall in his discretion:
Determine the beginning and duration of a quarantine period with
respect to any space mission; the quarantine period as it
applies to various life forms will be announced. Designate in
writing quarantine officers to exercise quarantine authority.
Determine that a particular person, property, animal, or other
form of life or matter, whatever is extra-terrestrially exposed
and quarantine such person, property, animal, or other form of
life or matter whatever. The quarantine may be based only on a
determination, with or without the benefit of a hearing, that
there is probable cause to believe that such person, property,
animal or other form of life or matter whatever is extra-
terrestrially exposed. Determine within the United States or
within vessels or vehicles of the United States the place,
boundaries, and rules of operation of necessary quarantine
stations. Provide for guard services by contract or otherwise,
as many be necessary, to maintain security and inviolability of
quarantine stations and quarantined persons, property, animals
or other form of life or matter whatever. Provide for the
subsistence, health and welfare of persons quarantined under the
provisions of this part. Hold such hearings at such times, in
such manner and for such purposes as may be desirable or
necessary under this part, including hearings for the purpose of
creating a record for use in making any determination under this
part for the purpose of reviewing any such determination. During
any period of announced quarantine, no person shall enter or
depart from the limits of the quarantine station without
permission of the cognizant NASA officer. During such period,
the posted perimeter of a quarantine station shall be secured by
armed guard. Any person who enters the limits of any quarantine
station during the quarantine period shall be deemed to have
consented to the quarantine of his person if it is determined
that he is or has become extra-terrestrially exposed. At the
earliest practicable time, each person who is quarantined by
NASA shall be given a reasonable opportunity to communicate by
telephone with legal counsel or other persons of his choice.
1211.107 Court or other process
NASA officers and employees are prohibited from discharging from
the limits of a quarantine station any quarantined person,
property, animal or other form of life or matter whatever during
order or other request, order or demand an announced quarantine
period in compliance with a subpoena, show cause or any court or
other authority without the prior approval of the General
Counsel and the Administrator. Where approval to discharge a
quarantined person, property, animal or other form of life or
matter whatever in compliance with such a request, order or
demand of any court or other authority is not given, the person
to whom it is directed shall, if possible, appear in court or
before the other authority and respectfully state his inability
to comply, relying for his action on this 1211.107.
1211.108 Violations
Whoever willfully violates, attempts to violate, or conspires to
violate any provision of this part or any regulation or order
issued under this part or who enters or departs from the limits
of a quarantine station in disregard of the quarantine rules or
regulations or without permission of the NASA quarantine officer
shall be fined not more that $5,000 or imprisoned not more than
1 year, or both.
- - - - -
Additions from the Patriot Two!!
- Making it easier to initiate surveillance and wiretapping of U. S.
Citizens under the authority of the little-known Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court (FISC). (Sections 101, 102 and 107)
- Permitting the government, under certain circumstances, to bypass
the
FISC altogether and conduct warrantless wiretaps and searches.
(Sections
103 and 104)
- Sheltering federal agents engaged in illegal surveillance without a
court order from criminal prosecution if they are following the
orders of
Executive Branch officials. (Section 106)
- Creating a new category of "domestic security surveillance" that
permits
electronic eavesdropping of entirely domestic activity under looser
standards than provided for ordinary criminal surveillance. (Section
122)
- Using an overly broad definition of terrorism that could cover some
protest tactics such as those used by Operation Rescue or the
protesters
at Vieques Island, Puerto Rico, as a new predicate for criminal
wiretapping and other electronic surveillance (Sections 120 and 121)
- Providing for general surveillance orders covering multiple
functions
for high-tech devices and by further expanding pen register and trap
and
trace authority for intelligence surveillance of U.S. citizens and
lawful
permanent foreign residents. (Sections 107-124)
- Creating a new and separate crime of using encryption technology
that
could add five years to any jail sentence for crimes committed with a
computer. ((Section 144)
- Expanding the PATRIOT Act's definition of nationwide search
warrants and
giving the government secret access to credit reports with consent or
judicial process (Sections 125 and 126)
- Enhancing the government's ability to obtain sensitive personal
information without prior judicial approval and providing new
penalties
for failure to comply with written demands for such records.
(Sections 128
and 129)
- Allowing for the sampling and cataloging of innocent Americans '
genetic
[DNA} information without a court order or the individual's consent.
(Sections 301-306)
- Permitting sensitive personal information to be shared with state
and
local law enforcement agencies despite any connection to anti-
terrorism
measures, (Section 311)
- Terminating court-approved limits on police spying, put in place to
prevent Mc-Carthy-era style police persecution based on political or
religious affiliation. (Section 312)
- Permitting searches, wiretaps and surveillance of U.S. citizens on
behalf of foreign governments - to include dictators and human rights
abusers' - in the absence of Senate-approved treaties. (Sections
321-322)
- Authorizing secret arrests in immigration, material witness and
other
cases where the detained person is not criminally charged. (Section
201)
- Threatening public health by severely restricting access to crucial
information concerning health risks by facilities that use dangerous
chemicals. (Section 202)
- Diminishing corporate responsibility by grant immunity to
businesses
that provide information to government terrorism investigations even
if
such actions are taken with disregard for the customer's privacy and
show
reckless disregard for the truth. (Section 313)
- Undermines basic constitutional rights by overly broad definitions
of
"terrorism" and "terrorist organization" which could result in
stripping a
native-born American of citizenship if they wittingly or unwittingly
support any organization deemed terrorist by government officials.
(Section 501)
- Creating 15 new categories of the death penalty, including one
should a
death result from otherwise peaceful protests such as Operation
Rescue.
(Section 411)
- Permitting arrests and extradition of American citizens to any
foreign
country including ones with bad human rights records, in the absence
of a
Senate-approved treaty and unfairly targeting immigrants by opening
sensitive personal visa files to local law enforcement agencies and
extended jail terms for common immigration offenses. (Sections 322,
311
and 502)
- Permitting summary deportations of American citizens deemed a
threat to
national security by Attorney General Ashcroft, even with no evidence
of
criminal activity, intent or terrorism. (Section 503)
-Completely abolishing fair hearings for American citizens convicted
of
minor criminal offenses through a retroactive "expedited removal"
procedure and preventing any court from questioning the government' s
unlawful actions by explicitly exempting these cases from habeas
corpus
review. (Section 504)
H.
"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <sci...@zzz.com>
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I am the Spook you insane idiot. We are deleting your
long insane rants because we need the space for better
things like starting the crusade to impeach The
Obomination for screwing up America. You will be one
of the first Liberals to be eliminated. The Spook has
spoke.
H.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
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Dear Mr. spOOk, Your kind, which has already been repeatedly stated,
has no place amongst us decent, moral citizens. Your kind and your
cult are slated for a FEMA camp, so GET MARCHING. And "H"eroin: good
riddance to bad bad rubbish!
Is There An Alien Strategy? By Jim Deardorff
Looking at the evidence thus far.
After 55 years of continued UFO reports indicating a wide range of UFO/
alien behavior, the question must arise as to whether or not the UFO
occupants, or aliens, are carrying out some sort of strategy directed
at us. And if so, what kind of strategy?
According to Elaine Douglass, for example, it is evident they are
participating in maintaining the UFO cover-up. That this is the case
follows from the fact that never, in hundreds of thousands of
sightings and large numbers of abductions, have they stayed around
long enough for the news media of the developed world to converge upon
the scene, and never have they left sufficient evidence behind to
satisfy scientists who value their professional reputations.
That this could be the result of random behavior seems entirely
implausible, given the reality of the UFO phenomenon. This then must
be one element of an alien strategy.
A prime factum is the oft-noted feature that during this extended
period of time, and during past millennia as well, they have not wiped
us out, enslaved us, or taken over the planet despite in all
probability possessing the capability of doing so. From this it is
usually concluded that the aliens involved are non-hostile, at least
to society as a whole. This lets us know that their strategy does not
entail outright hostility.
Now, many of us are aware from science fiction, in particular Star
Trek, that advanced, exploring ETs (in that case, us) may obey a
“prime directive” in regards to less advanced alien beings of other
planets. The intent of the directive is that the advanced beings not
disrupt the developing civilization of the lesser advanced beings who
are not yet aware of life outside their planet.
Interestingly, papers have appeared in the peer-reviewed scientific
literature that incorporate this thought The researchers allow that
exploration, rather than, exploitive colonization, could be a likely
behavior of advanced aliens, who may be treating us as if in a zoo, a
nursery, or carrying out a quarantine or embargo against Earth until
we are better prepared for contact.
This theme has, for example, been accepted as a possibility by Newman
& Sagan, who referred to such ethical guidelines as a Codex Galactica.
They also wrote, “Some subset of moderately advanced civilizations may
be engaged in the exploration and colonization of other planetary
systems; however, their mere existence makes it highly likely that
their intentions are benign and their sensitivities at our level of
technological adolescence delicate.”
However, a total embargo or hands-off strategy of Earth as part of an
alien strategy would be self-defeating, in that when the time came
when overt alien contact could no longer be delayed or prevented, the
shock of sudden confrontation with a superior civilization would still
be devastating to our society. Thus a “leaky embargo” strategy has
been proposed. The UFO phenomenon constitutes the “leak in the
embargo,” serving the purpose of conditioning society for eventual
alien contact.
This conditioning appears to be a prolonged educational process
directed mainly towards those who are inquisitive and open to the
possibility of an alien presence. It is then left up to the latter,
plus the eyewitnesses themselves, who are typically found to be one
person in 12 or 15, to try to persuade the rest of society of the
reality of the UFO/alien presence.
UFO sightings not only enlighten those who can accept it, but provide
them with significant information as to the aliens’ level of
technology-the capability of their craft to withstand tremendous
accelerations, hover without making noise, travel at large supersonic
speeds without producing sonic booms, disappear suddenly or become
invisible, change shape, etc.
The educational aspect
Encounters with the aliens themselves have further educated us on
their psychic abilities, communication via some form of mental
telepathy, ability to block out memories or provide screen memories
within their abductees’ minds, etc. By comparison, another purpose of
the strategy, then, is evidently to cause us to recognize our own
lowly place within the hierarchy of intelligent life forms in the
cosmos.
Most interesting is that even the aliens who carry out the abductions
and animal mutilations, plus those who engage in less traumatic
contacts, abide by the same strategic guideline as followed by the
aliens who provide “ordinary” UFO sightings: they do not leave
sufficient evidence behind that would force unwilling skeptics to
believe what is unthinkable to them. If this were not true, science
would have caught on to the reality of the UFO phenomenon, including
abductions, years ago.
Hence, the aliens engaged in the abduction phenomenon and animal
mutilations cannot be considered totally independent of whichever
alien group may be in charge of overseeing the strategy by which they
all abide.
It may be noticed that although these deductions indicate that the
aliens involved can wield great power and advanced technology, they no
longer need be treated as gods/goddesses, now that science and
astronomy have carried us to the point where we can appreciate the
likelihood of the aliens’ extraterrestrial origins and how their
advanced capabilities should seem like magic to us.
The fact that the aliens in charge have not protected us from our own
follies and wars has not prevented traumatic abductions from occurring-
and have sometimes caused physical ailments in close-encounter
witnesses should further deter us from calling them gods or equating
them with true God, the Universal Consciousness (assuming such
exists). On the other hand, the counterbalancing benign or favorable
aspects of the UFO phenomenon as discussed above, which include
healings of some abductees’ and witnesses’ physical problems, and
imparting an increased psychic and spiritual awareness to others,
suggest we should follow a middle path regarding alien ethical levels,
treating them as neither angels nor demons.
Though it may be more speculative, I therefore view this aspect
considering them on the whole as neither gods nor evil enemies, but
entities rather like us except for their great headstart over us-as
another element of the strategy the aliens in charge wish to put
across to us.
This, along with the variety of reported alien types and behaviors,
suggests that we will need to consider each future alien encounter on
its own merits, as common sense would dictate, while keeping in mind
what the UFO phenomenon of the past several decades has taught us.
Because of the variety of alien types, I have frequently referred to
“aliens in charge” in connection with implementation of the alien
strategy.
Other aspects of the strategy
A disproportionate number of UFO sightings have occurred at nuclear
missile silos and over nuclear power plants, and in the former case,
nuclear missiles have even been remotely disarmed by the UFO. This
strongly suggests that another element of the alien strategy is to
discourage the use of nuclear weapons and nuclear power as well.
A key topic that aliens communicate to their UFO experiencers is the
grave danger of Earth and its environment becoming unlivable through
human destructiveness carelessness, hatred, and greed. Emphasis of
this concern then appears to be another facet of the alien strategy,
probably because it is indeed of paramount importance.
On a less pessimistic note, their concern that we mend our ways
suggests that they believe the future is not a fixed inevitability.
This in turn suggests that the aliens, for the most part at least, are
not time travelers from Earth’s own future, tampering with a history
assumed to be fluid and changeable.
As mentioned at the beginning, an important part of the strategy is
that the aliens maintain the UFO cover-up at the same time as they
covertly disclose their presence to selected witnesses and
experiencers. There are a variety of means by which they can
accomplish this. They can purposely locate and time many of their UFO
sightings to occur within an hour or two of a scientifically
explainable event, such as a bright meteorite, an earthquake, a
volcanic eruption, or reentry of satellite debris.
Then, although most witnesses will be astounded by the remarkable, non-
explainable aspects of their sighting, non-witnesses may ignore these
features of a UFO report if they wish and assume the event was the
nearby scientifically explainable one, which it in some way resembled.
Also, the aliens may exhibit a UFO craft that in some ways resembles a
man-made or natural object, such as an airplane, helicopter, large
balloon or even a cloud.
The eyewitnesses will notice the eerie differences, such as not giving
off any sound, not having wings or not using “navigational” lights of
proper placement and color, in the case of aircraft, and not moving
with the wind like any balloon or cloud does; however, the non-
witnesses who read of the report may ignore such details and assume
the witnesses were mistaken.
The aliens may also communicate some disinformation, contradictory
thoughts, or silly science to their abductees and contactees, who,
when they report it, can get accused by scientists of having invented
their stories, and be ridiculed. The aliens’ “magical” technology and
apparent intelligence thus permits them to stay several jumps ahead of
our scientists and ufologists alike, though at the personal expense of
some UFO experiencers.
Future outlook
It may be that the aliens are patiently waiting for us to realize
these facets of their strategy, which may seem so obvious in
hindsight, and are waiting for us to convince our fellow man,
especially those in position of authority, before making their first
overt contact with humanity.
The alternative scenario is that the aliens will make their presence
known worldwide soon after some devastating global disasters, either
natural or of mankind’s making, have caused our civilization to
collapse, in which case they need no longer fear that it would be
their own overt presence that would produce the same reaction.
It is true that we cannot know all, or even much, of what’s in the
minds of the aliens who are involved in the UFO phenomenon. However,
this should not deter us from making logical sense out of the
information they have chosen to impart to us during the past 55 years
of UFO sightings and encounters.
Having a handle on what the alien behavior is all about, and their
implementation of a consistent though complex strategy, should help to
make the UFO topic less unpalatable to professional scientists, who
don’t like to study what doesn’t make sense to them, and who are the
linchpins in the maintenance of the UFO cover-up.
- - -
“Little Green Man” added:
It’s a sad fact that debunkers are people who have become comfortably
settled with a mindset. They are deeply unwilling to admit that there
might be something wrong with their position. If small facts like
public sightings of UFO’s contradict their mindset, they tend to
ignore them. If the contradictory facts grow larger, as with Aviation
and Police reports, they become distressed and angry. They are totally
unaware that there is anything unreasonable about this reaction.
Science is a method of investigating the universe. Any good
investigator begins by trying take his bearings. He attempts to form a
mental map of the kind of universe he thinks he is investigating.
(Ptolemy’s map showed the earth at the center of the universe and the
stars and planets all revolving around it). This mental map is called
a “paradigm”.
Looking at the history of science, we see that paradigms are always
being scrapped and replaced by new ones Scientists seem to hate to
abandon their old paradigms, and cling to them as long as possible,
ignoring or dismissing new evidence that is pushing them into
reconsidering. So it is with debunkers. We all have a need to believe
that the universe is a stable and orderly place. We tend to ignore
things that upset our basic sense of “normality” or try to forget them
as quickly as possible. This is not so much choice, as a subconscious
mechanism. We just have to recognize that different people can stand
different degrees of uncertainty. Acknowledgement of extra-terrestrial
life, and recognition of an alien strategy is always going to be
unpalatable to many people.
Without studies and serious discussions concerning UFOs and like
phenomena we can never hope to begin to produce a paradigm that will
satisfy most skeptics. There will always be a core of people who
refuse to abandon their secure view of the world. We must continue to
build a strategy, which can deal with contact with extra-terrestrials,
just as extra-terrestrials will almost certainly have adopted a
strategy to attempt to deal with us on our war-torn, starvation ridden
and divided planet.
H.
On Dec 12, 10:52 am, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <scie...@zzz.com>
> wrote in
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> On Dec 10, 10:41 am, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
> =====================================================
> I am the Spook you insane idiot. We are deleting your
> long insane rants because we need the space for
> better
> things like starting the crusade to impeach The
> Obomination for screwing up America. You will be one
> of the first Liberals to be eliminated. The Spook has
> spoke.
> H.
Dear Mr. spOOk, Your kind, which has already been
repeatedly stated,
has no place amongst us decent, moral citizens. Your
kind and your
cult are slated for a FEMA camp, so GET MARCHING. And
"H"eroin: good
riddance to bad bad rubbish!
===========================================================
Dear Mr. Dumbo Holeflapper,
You still do not understand, you have been selected to
be eliminated.
Remove your shirt or dress whichever you are wearing at
the moment and check the back. See the big black
"bulls eye". Now do you understand?
Andrew W
Obama is just a groomed stooge like all the others.
If you impeach the stooge they will just replace him with another stooge.
You have to take down the policy makers behind the scenes if you want to
make a difference.
--
The skeptic/debunker's motto - If I haven't seen it and its even
slightly difficult for me to believe then there's no way it can
possibly exist and I must stomp on anyone who says otherwise because
they're just crazy or frauds.
HVAC
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>
> Obama is just a groomed stooge like all the others.
> If you impeach the stooge they will just replace him with another stooge.
> You have to take down the policy makers behind the scenes if you want to
> make a difference.
Oh Noes! Not the Illuminatiz!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <scie...@zzz.com>
Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. You and your cult are
non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the State
apparatus. This is your last warning, until the next one. Don't
wait, surrender now!!
When Good Science Goes Bad/The "Business" of Science
by Joel Bliefuss
Corporate America, building upon its control of the national
economy, the electoral system and the mass media, is set to acquire
its next major property: the world of science. Business propagandists
understand that with science on their side they can drown out
environmentalists, sow confusion among the public and thus curtail the
growth of ecological awareness.
And ecological awareness is "one of the last internal obstacles
to the complete hegemony of transnational corporate capitalism"
remarks writer Brian Tokar. O' Dwyer PR Services, though viewing the
situation differently, knows what's at stake: Public perception of the
environment is "the life-and-death PR battle of the 1990s." Elizabeth
Whelan, director of the industry-funded American Council on Science
and Health, is armed and ready. According to Whelan, in this PR
battle there are two kinds of science: the sound, sensible All-
American variety, and "mouse terrorism" which postulates that any
chemical that kills a rodent is harmful to humans.
Whelan, a widely quoted science "expert" funded by the Chemical
Manufacturers Association and other corporate interests, is not alone
in her crusade against public-interest "terrorists." In 1993, Garrey
Carruthers founded the Advancement of Sound Science Coalition to aid
"corporations or industry groups that are confronted by unsound
science." Carruthers, a former Republican governor of New Mexico,
argues that "science used to guide public policy decisions should be
on sound principles, not on emotions and beliefs considered by some to
be politically correct." One of the missions of groups such as
Whelan's and Carruthers' is to convince the media that
environmentalists are motivated solely by politics and that industry
is driven by rational science. "We need to be deeply concerned about
the welfare of our families when public health policy is set not by
scientists but by political operatives and special interests with axes
to grind and agendas to fulfill, " writes Whelan.
Not surprisingly, the corporate press is particularly amenable to
such persuasion. Citing statistics from Whelan's group, a September
1994 Fortune magazine article warned that, "America's environmental
policy-making has increasingly been driven more by media hype and
partisan policies than by sensible science." Fortune's Ann Reilly
Dowd reassured readers: "Despite the waves of panic that roll over
America each year, some 500 scientists surveyed by the American
Council on Science and Health have concluded that the threat to life
from environmental hazards is negligible." And in truth, the American
council on Science and Health has little trouble finding 500
scientists to back up its pro-industry propaganda. Scientific
research is a largely corporate affair.
"Much of the science research in the United States is being done
at universities that are funded by corporations, or in the
corporation's own research laboratories," says Joe Belluck, a staff
attorney at Public Citizen's Congress Watch. "Further, the only way
to develop your status as a scientific expert is to get your research
published and peer-reviewed by other experts whose careers, in turn,
depend upon corporations."
Harvard University, America's pre-eminent institution of higher
learning, is a leader in providing academic research to the corporate
community. As Lawrence Soley reports in his recently released book
"Leasing The Ivory Tower," Harvard's Institute of Medicine is
establishing a research center in which university scientists will
work side by side with their corporate counterparts. In fact,
corporate offices will occupy four of the center's 10 floors.
With a weak-willed president and a Republican-dominated Congress,
corporate-sponsored science is exercising unprecedented influence in
Washington. Michael Kehs of Burson-Marsteller, the world's largest
environmental PR company, celebrated the election of Gingrich and
company in last February's issue of O' Dwyer's PR Services. "Greenies
appeared to be in control when President Clinton played sax at the
first-ever environmental inaugural ball. Today, however, the business
community enjoys the upper hand," Kehs told O' Dwey's. "Today there
is a new contract on the street. And although the word 'environment'
is never mentioned, many observers believe it's less a contract with
America than a contract on environmental busybodies."
The Republicans have made good on that contact. Under
legislation passed by the House and pending in the Senate, all new
environmental and public safety regulations must undergo a risk
assessment and a cost-benefit analysis, both of which will be
conducted by panels of experts that included scientists from affected
industries. Formerly established legislative safeguards are also
under attack. Last month, in an effort to derail the planned phase-
out of ozone-destroying chlorofluorocarbons, a House science
subcommittee held hearings on the "myths and realities" of ozone
depletion. One of the Republicans' experts was Fred Singer, an ozone-
hole skeptic whose last peer-reviewed work on ozone was published in
1971!
Rick Hind, the legislative director of the Greenpeace toxic
campaign, finds the Republicans' search for pure science
disingenuous. "The only sound science is in the sound studios of
bands like the Rolling Stones and REM; otherwise it is a very
subjective thing," says Hind. "Capitol Hill Republicans say they want
sound science, but at the same time they're calling for companies to
have representatives on the risk-assessment panels that set standards
for their industry. Ironically, that's already the case. The
Republicans would only make it worse." A 1989 report from the Senate
subcommittee on toxic substances expressed concerns about the EPA
scientific advisory panel (SAP) that reviewed the pesticide Alar: "The
fact that seven out of eight members of the Alar SAP did consulting
for the chemical industry while they served on the SAP certainly gives
the appearance of bias." The report concluded that the "EPA must re-
examine its conflict-of-interest regulations to ensure that the
American people are guaranteed scientific judgments made by a clearly
unbiased panel."
Nobody listened then. Nobody is listening now. In this respect,
the Clinton EPA is no different than its predecessor. Take the
current wrangling over how to regulate dioxin, the most hazardous
industrial byproduct known to humans. The EPA's Science Advisory
Board is currently reviewing the agency's much-delayed dioxin
reassessment. Of particular interest are two scientists chosen by the
EPA to serve on the board's 25-member health panel: William Greenlee,
of the University of Massachusetts at Worcester, and John Graham, who
is with the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis. Greenlee and Graham
were put in charge of critiquing the section of the risk assessment
that dealt with the question of what quantity of dioxin is "safe."
According to a Greenpeace report, sources within the EPA have told the
environmental group that Greenlee and Graham "are the two member of
the...health panel who most actively and consistently challenged the
validity of the dioxin health-risk conclusions contained in the EPA
[reassessment] report." Not surprisingly, the career's of those two
scientists are heavily financed by dioxin-creating industries.
Greenlee admits as much. At the May meeting of the Science
Advisory Board, members of the board's health panel were asked to
disclose research grants in dioxin-related fields. According to
transcripts of that meeting, Greenlee stated, "In addition to funding
from [the National Institute of Health], I have received research
grants from the American Forest and Paper Association and General
Electric, and I've also received gifts for research from the Chemical
Manufacturers Association and Dow Chemical." Greenlee never explained
what "gifts for research" entail. He also went on to say, "Those of
us for whom dioxin supports our family, sometimes we keep looking for
problems that aren't necessarily there because it puts food on the
table." And what good food that must be. The total of the gifts, and
grants that Greenlee has received from Dow Chemical, the American
Forest and Paper Association and the Chemical Manufacturers
Association exceeds several million dollars.
Graham's Harvard Center for Risk Analysis is also heavily
dependent on the corporations that release dioxin into the
environment. In April, a month before the EPA's Science Advisory
Board meeting, his center organized a conference on drinking water and
health risks for the Chemical Manufacturers Association and the
Chlorine Chemistry Council, a subgroup of the CMA established to deal
with the dioxin issue. Graham has also received funding from a host
of companies with a stake in the dioxin reassessment, including CIBA-
GEIGY, Du Pont, General Electric, Georgia-Pacific, Hoechst-Celanese,
ICI Kodak, Monsanto and Olin. To top it all off, between 1990 and
1994, the center received unrestricted grants of unknown amounts from
Dow Chemical, the company that Greenpeace characterizes as "the
world's largest root source of dioxin." And while Graham and Greenlee
were taking command of the Science Advisory Board health panel, two
other members of the panel, Frederica Perera, a professor of
environmental health sciences at the Columbia University School of
Public Health, and Ellen
Cujo DeSockpuppet
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> Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. You and your cult are
> non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the State
> apparatus. This is your last warning, until the next one. Don't
> wait, surrender now!!
Address of the FEMA camp, please? I've been w-a-i-t-i-n-g.
Get on it now, Artie/Gary.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I am not familiar with this particular work, but I think all
astrological applications to be valid." - Wollmann displays his vast
knowledge of astrology and grammar.
BDK
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>
>
> > Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. You and your cult are
> > non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the State
> > apparatus. This is your last warning, until the next one. Don't
> > wait, surrender now!!
>
> Address of the FEMA camp, please? I've been w-a-i-t-i-n-g.
>
> Get on it now, Artie/Gary.
>
>
This is my favorite one, near Indianapolis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4
Sane folks call it the AMTRAK Beech Grove Shops.
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:a002a03b-54a1-4469...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. You and your cult are
> > non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the State
> > apparatus. This is your last warning, until the next one. Don't
> > wait, surrender now!!
>
> Address of the FEMA camp, please? I've been w-a-i-t-i-n-g.
If you can't find a FEMA camp, just give up at the nearest police
station, they will ship you and your cult out to the camps.Now no more
posts from your kind, we have serious work to do, withOUT debunkers!!!
Do aliens really exist? Just ask France's official UFO hunters By Adam
Sage
Flying saucers and alien spacecraft have long been favourites of film
and TV producers, but Jean-Jacques Velasco believes that not all UFO
sightings can be dismissed as products of over- active imaginations
On a cold Monday morning 22 years ago, Jean-Jacques Velasco was
sitting in his office when a gendarme rang to tell him about a strange
incident. Renato Nicolai, a retired technician, had been working in
his garden in Trans-en-Provence, near Nice, when he saw a dark, round
object come down from the sky, settle on the ground and take off
again, the gendarme said. Over the years, Velasco has heard many such
stories, and disproved most of them. But this one was different -
this one was credible, he believes. Something seems to have landed in
Trans-en-Provence, he says, and that something has never been
identified.
But who is Velasco? Another crackpot determined to find a flying
saucer? No, he is a scientist working for the state-run National
French Centre for Space Studies (CNES), where he heads a department
responsible for analysing what are commonly called unidentified flying
objects (UFOs) but what are officially known as unidentified aerospace
phenomena (UAP).
A neatly-dressed, bespectacled man, Velasco talks with the careful
precision of an academic who is keen to be understood. He is not
saying that he has come across visitors from another planet; he is
saying merely that events occur for which science has yet to find an
explanation, and which merit further inquiry.
Velasco’s department was set up in 1977, the year that Close
Encounters of the Third
Kind was released amid a global UFO fever. Across the world people
thought they saw strange figures, flying saucers and bright lights.
But there were few serious attempts to probe the issue. The CNES set
up the Service for Expert Appraisal of Atmospheric Re-entry Phenomena
(SEPRA). Based in Toulouse, the department is as pedantic as its title
sounds: the staff are state-employed scientists, shaped by a prudent,
rigorous and somewhat bureaucratic culture. In France such bureaucracy
can often be cumbersome and painfully rigid. Yet in this domain at
least, this rigidity offers a guarantee of impartiality that is rare
as far as UFOs are concerned.
Last year, when the CNES was told to reduce its 1.3 billion budget,
the organisation’s president, Alain Bensoussan, ordered an audit into
SEPRA’s work. A wide range of French scientists was asked whether it
was worth continuing research; almost all said yes.
One reason is because, unlike most other UFO-hunters, SEPRA’s staff
are neither seeking publicity nor peddling an obscure belief in
extraterrestrial civilisation. They say they do not know whether
extraterrestrial beings exist or not, and look disparaging when you
ask them to voice their hunches on the question.
They do not have hunches, only statistics. Yet the statistics that
Velasco has made public are eloquent. Since, 1977, SEPRA has received
some 6,000 reports of alleged UFO sightings. Of these, 110 are from
civil or military aircraft crew, and the rest from ordinary French
people who have almost invariably contacted their local gendarmerie.
In 21.3% of cases there is a clear, indisputable and banal
explanation: a firework display, a novel lighting system involving a
luminous balloon, a cloud above the Pyrenees that is shaped like a
flying saucer. In 24.9% there is a probable explanation, and in 41.3%
the information is too vague to be of use. But in 12.5 per cent of
cases about 750 sightings since 1977 the evidence is detailed and
inexplicable, and is thus categorised as an unidentified phenomenon.
Most alleged UFOs are spotted by the sober and sensible, says Velasco.
“In all our statistics on the people who see these phenomena only one
in 1,000 is not credible because of alcohol. People go to gendarmerie
spontaneously; mainly because they want to know what they have seen.”
Yet a witness’s good faith is not enough, and the story must be
corroborated. Consider, for instance, a case reported in 1994, when
the crew of an Air France flight from Nice to London saw a dark, 300-
metre long object over the Paris region. The object disappeared before
the aircraft had got near it, and the flight continued without
difficulty. A few days later Velasco travelled from his office in
Toulouse to the military aviation control centre outside Paris, where
he was given a read-out of the radar information from the day in
question. It revealed that an unknown object had indeed flown over the
French capital.
Consider, too, the Trans-en- Provence case. Velasco went through the
usual checks with the gendarme. Was there evidence? The apparent
answer was yes, as there were marks in the grass where the object had
supposedly landed.
Velasco drove to Trans-en-Provence and took ground samples. These
showed that the area had been heated to between 300ºC and 600ºC, that
it had been compressed by something weighing up to a tonne and that
the plants there had been affected by a strong electromagnetic field.
Velasco concluded that Nicolai had indeed witnessed a strange
happening. So should we conclude that little green men were taking a
look at Provence from their spaceship? Velasco dismisses such ideas.
“We cannot say whether there is a link between the question of
extraterrestrial life and that of non-identified aerospace phenomena,”
he says. “But we can show that UFOs exist. The problem is interpreting
them, and I hope that scientists, and other people, look at this
question more seriously.”
France's Velasco, CNES & SEPRA
Source: The Belfast Telegraph - Digital
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/features/story.jsp?story=378557
H.
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
news:a002a03b-54a1-4469...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
==================================================
>>>>>Old Outdated Post Deleted<<<<<
You still don't get it do you Holeflapper?
You have been chosen to be replaced.
You will report to the Soilent Green Reprocessing
Factory immediately.
This is no joke your kind have been found revolting and
must be reprocessed.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:596c5379-cfe2-48c9...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 15, 2:38�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:a
> 002a03b-54a1-4469...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. �You and your cult
>> > are
>> > non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the State
>> > apparatus. �This is your last warning, until the next one. �Don't
>> > wait, surrender now!!
>>
>> Address of the FEMA camp, please? I've been w-a-i-t-i-n-g.
>
> If you can't find a FEMA camp, just give up at the nearest police
> station,
Request DENIED, Artie/Gary.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I can see why you have difficulty understanding why I am a babe
magnet" - Edmo understates the facts.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:596c5379-cfe2-48c9...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Dec 15, 2:38 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:a
>
> >> > Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. You and your cult
> >> > are
> >> > non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the State
> >> > apparatus. This is your last warning, until the next one. Don't
> >> > wait, surrender now!!
>
> >> Address of the FEMA camp, please? I've been w-a-i-t-i-n-g.
>
> > If you can't find a FEMA camp, just give up at the nearest police
> > station,
>
> Request DENIED, Artie/Gary.
Have it your way, I pray for you cult sakes that the General decides
not to drop 10,000 H-Bombs on your debunker compound!! If he gives
the heads up, I would recommend to head for the hill of MARS!!!
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:63d7577d-367e-4139...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Now that Google will be established as a "foundational aspect" of the
Internet, my work is secure and referenceable for many years to come.
Just as I planned it." - Edmo plots his immortality via Google.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:63d7577d-367e-4139...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 16, 1:56 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:5
>
> >> > On Dec 15, 2:38 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> >> innews:a
> >> > 002a03b-54a1-4469-b2a0-28dd5f625...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> >> > Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. You and your
> >> >> > cult are
> >> >> > non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the State
> >> >> > apparatus. This is your last warning, until the next one. Don'
> > t
> >> >> > wait, surrender now!!
>
> >> >> Address of the FEMA camp, please? I've been w-a-i-t-i-n-g.
>
> >> > If you can't find a FEMA camp, just give up at the nearest police
> >> > station,
>
> >> Request DENIED, Artie/Gary.
>
> > Have it your way, I pray for you cult sakes that the General decides
> > not to drop 10,000 H-Bombs on your debunker compound!! If he gives
> > the heads up, I would recommend to head for the hill of MARS!!!
>
> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is make
recommendations. But a sober-minded person would of course use them
to get rid of the debunker problem.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:8e12ccc2-deb9-4f7b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 17, 3:08�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:6
> 3d7577d-367e-4139...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 16, 1:56�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> innews:5
>> > 96c5379-cfe2-48c9-9954-56a4dc569...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Dec 15, 2:38�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>
>> >> >> wrote innews:a
>> >> > 002a03b-54a1-4469-b2a0-28dd5f625...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> >> > Again, your kind has no place here, so get out. �You and your
>> >> >> > cult are
>> >> >> > non-entities and have been branded truth-terrorists by the
>> >> >> > State apparatus. �This is your last warning, until the next
>> >> >> > one. �D
> on'
>> > t
>> >> >> > wait, surrender now!!
>>
>> >> >> Address of the FEMA camp, please? I've been w-a-i-t-i-n-g.
>>
>> >> > If you can't find a FEMA camp, just give up at the nearest
>> >> > police station,
>>
>> >> Request DENIED, Artie/Gary.
>>
>> > Have it your way, I pray for you cult sakes that the General
>> > decides not to drop 10,000 H-Bombs on your debunker compound!! �If
>> > he gives the heads up, I would recommend to head for the hill of
>> > MARS!!!
>>
>> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
>
> That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is make
> recommendations.
Weaseling backpedal noted, Artie/Gary.
> But a sober-minded person would of course use them
> to get rid of the debunker problem.
That leaves you out, sockboi.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Yes, I am wise, and its wisdom born from my superior brain!" - Edmond
"What Ego Problem?" Wollmann further deludes himself.
Andrew W
news:hg56tt$f9u$1...@hvac.motzarella.org...
So then I guess you just believe *everything* the old politicians tell the
sheeple.
Tell me Mr. Hvac, do you truly believe that politicians *never* lie?
HVAC
>>> You have to take down the policy makers behind the scenes if you want to
>>> make a difference.
>>
>>
>> Oh Noes! Not the Illuminatiz!
>
> So then I guess you just believe *everything* the old politicians tell the
> sheeple.
Of COURSE I do ANDY!
> Tell me Mr. Hvac, do you truly believe that politicians *never* lie?
Well, to tell you the truth Andy, it's YOU that concerns me.
Is there NOTHING..... No bullshit story at all, that you
DON'T believe in?
We've already determined that you are a total ufo nut
as well as a believer in ghosts along with heaven and hell.
So what about other bullshit?
Let's do a little questionnaire, shall we?
(You people at home can play along too!)
How about demonic possession?
Chupicaberra (sp) ?
Astral projection?
Bigfoot?
9/11 conspiracy?
Loch Ness monster?
God?
Sir Gilligan Horry
Mr HVAC ... take your pills !!!
Go back to bed Mr HVAC !!!
______________________
======================
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:30:19 -0500, "HVAC" <harlowc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> Mr HVAC ... take your pills !!!
>
> Go back to bed Mr HVAC !!!
>
> ______________________
>
> ======================
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:4b2c1f6c$0$5420$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>>> You have to take down the policy makers behind the scenes if you want to
> >>>> make a difference.
>
> >>> Oh Noes! Not the Illuminatiz!
>
> >> So then I guess you just believe *everything* the old politicians tell the
> >> sheeple.
>
> >Of COURSE I do ANDY!
>
> >> Tell me Mr. Hvac, do you truly believe that politicians *never* lie?
>
> >Well, to tell you the truth Andy, it's YOU that concerns me.
>
> >Is there NOTHING..... No bullshit story at all, that you
> >DON'T believe in?
>
> >We've already determined that you are a total ufo nut
> >as well as a believer in ghosts along with heaven and hell.
>
> >So what about other bullshit?
> >Let's do a little questionnaire, shall we?
> >(You people at home can play along too!)
>
> >How about demonic possession?
>
> >Chupicaberra (sp) ?
>
> >Astral projection?
>
> >Bigfoot?
>
> >9/11 conspiracy?
>
> >Loch Ness monster?
>
> >God?
VD-VAC is a Project Monarch mind-control debunker. Most debunkers
have had their memories wiped cleaned (but not their behinds,
unfortunately) and reprogrammed with debunker nonsense. The Octagon®
have the coordinates of all debunker strongholds and are awaiting a
decision to use either alpha, beta, neutron, protron or hydrogen bombs
on them. Of course the debunkers could just surrender and march to the
FEMA camps. I have sent the main debunker camp a listing of most of
the FEMA facilities, so hopefully they will start their way over there
soon!!
Sir Gilligan Horry
HVAC is on Cocaine or something nearly as good as I am on.
Oh, I am on Usenet Newsgroups and Reality !!
It's Very Good !!!
_________________
=================
Project MotherShip
http://projectmothership.isgreat.org
================
Nightcrawler
> Chupicaberra (sp) ?
Copacabana?
BradGuth
wrote:
> "HVAC" <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hg56tt$f9u$1...@hvac.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
> > "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:4b2551a4$0$25040$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> >> Obama is just a groomed stooge like all the others.
> >> If you impeach the stooge they will just replace him with another stooge.
> >> You have to take down the policy makers behind the scenes if you want to
> >> make a difference.
>
> > Oh Noes! Not the Illuminatiz!
>
> So then I guess you just believe *everything* the old politicians tell the
> sheeple.
>
> Tell me Mr. Hvac, do you truly believe that politicians *never* lie?
politicians lie! (my God, when did this get uncovered?)
Next you're going to suggest that we can't truest the church or the
Pope any better than a used car salesman.
Are you suggesting that public funded folks can't be trusted?
Actually, it seems everyone is trying to screw most everyone else, and
thus far getting away with it.
~ BG
HVAC
"Nightcrawler" <Dirty...@dirtcheap.net> wrote in message
news:1rKdnVVX5NYlcrHW...@giganews.com...
> On 12/19/2009 6:30 AM, HVAC wrote:
>
>> Chupicaberra (sp) ?
>
> Copacabana?
Calm down there...... Barry.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:0b5df8fb-b6a2-48ae...@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 19, 6:45�am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
>> Mr HVAC ... take your pills !!!
>>
>> Go back to bed Mr HVAC !!!
>>
>> ______________________
>>
>> =====================
>>
great guy so pay attention to nothing the Artie/Gary sockpuppet says.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I wrote a REFERENCED researched book, that names everyone who's
ideas are integrated within it. Soon my warchest will be large ebough to
to sue the fuck out of you for your lible and defamation, and when that
days comes you can be sure I will publish IT everywhere as well." - Edmo
H.
>
>> Chupicaberra (sp) ?
>
> Copacabana?
Capachino maybe?
Nightcrawler
Man, is that low.
Andrew W
>
> "Andrew W" <removethi...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4b2c1f6c$0$5420$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>> You have to take down the policy makers behind the scenes if you want
>>>> to make a difference.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh Noes! Not the Illuminatiz!
>>
>> So then I guess you just believe *everything* the old politicians tell
>> the sheeple.
>
> Of COURSE I do ANDY!
>
Then you are the credulous rube.
I can't believe you said that. Everyone knows that politicians lie. Ask
anyone. Ask someone who's been in politics.
>
>> Tell me Mr. Hvac, do you truly believe that politicians *never* lie?
>
> Well, to tell you the truth Andy, it's YOU that concerns me.
>
No, you are the real concern.
>
> Is there NOTHING..... No bullshit story at all, that you
> DON'T believe in?
>
Interested is the word.
>
> We've already determined that you are a total ufo nut
> as well as a believer in ghosts along with heaven and hell.
>
> So what about other bullshit?
> Let's do a little questionnaire, shall we?
> (You people at home can play along too!)
>
> How about demonic possession?
>
> Chupicaberra (sp) ?
>
> Astral projection?
>
> Bigfoot?
>
> 9/11 conspiracy?
>
> Loch Ness monster?
>
> God?
>
I don't fully believe in any of those things, but I do like to see what's
going on in the world regarding those sorts of areas purely because they are
interesting.
>
>
Andrew W
news:lnppi5panrsufvirk...@4ax.com...
>
> Mr HVAC ... take your pills !!!
>
> Go back to bed Mr HVAC !!!
>
Yes, agreed. He is quite sick and shouldn't be up and about.
HVAC
>
> I don't fully believe in any of those things, but I do like to see what's
> going on in the world regarding those sorts of areas purely because they
> are interesting.
Would you mind telling me how old you are?
You don't even have to be specific, just within
a couple of years...
HVAC
"H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:dj8Xm.102438$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad...
>>
>>> Chupicaberra (sp) ?
>>
>> Copacabana?
>
> Capachino maybe?
The fucking Chupicarberra..... It's like some
Puerto Rican Tasmanian devil or some such shit.
PS- I DID put (sp) after the god dammed thing, but
I'm glad I could amuse you two ;-)
Nightcrawler
> The fucking Chupicarberra..... It's like some
> Puerto Rican Tasmanian devil or some such shit.
Well, I'm glad that you meant Chupacabra instead of chalupa.
(LOL, my spell check just popped up with Copacabana for Chupacabra)
>
> PS- I DID put (sp) after the god dammed thing, but
> I'm glad I could amuse you two ;-)
Well, when a hanging fastball is out there...
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
The word HAS been given - OPEL-REDU (Operation: Eliminate Remaining
Debunkers) has gotten a boost from the President of HACA (Human-Alien
Contact Agenda.) There will be an additional 30,000 troops on the
ground to fight the debunker insurgency and debunker sympathizers.
Victory may be at hand people, so stay tuned and let's get them before
they get us!!
Sir Artio
reporting from the Octagon®
Sir Gilligan Horry
>reporting from the Octagon�
Reporting from The Milky Way Galaxy.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:28:01 -0800 (PST), "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
>
>
>
In the very near future, the debunkers will be but a very bad after-
thought whose goal was the ultimate destruction of ALL MANKIND.
Luckily, the real Patriots of democracy, liberty and freedom stood up
and kicked those stupid debunker butts all the way through the goal
post and BEYOND!! Yes, there are a few wildcat debunkers around, but
the General assures me he has most of them on the list and they will
be sent to the FEMA camps very very very soon!! GIVE UP NOW
debunkers!!!
Sir ArtiØ
H.
Probably a Democrat too.
H.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:8e12ccc2-deb9-4f7b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 3:08 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:6
Exactly how many warnings do we have to give your cult? I guess the
General wants to make sure he has every one of you punks pegged! No
matter, this time good WILL triumph over evil, the side the debunker
represent. Now enough of your silly talk, leave these very important
subjects to honest researchers. And don't come back, EVER!!!
The Man Who "Outed" the U.S. Saucer Program:
Colonel Steve Wilson
A Short Biography By Richard Boylan, Ph.D
Note: This short biography is based on notes and communications from
Colonel Steve Wilson to me in the months before he died. It is
dedicated to the memory of this courageous soldier patriot.
There is much about Colonel Steve "Wilson"'s life that he will not
allow to be known, for good reason. Colonel Wilson is a hunted man.
Moving from state to state to evade several attempts on his life, he
currently is battling cancer. Like a number of other prominent
disclosers of top secrets about UFOs and governmental cover-ups
(astronaut Gordon Cooper, Congressman Steve Schiff, CSETI's director
and executive assistant Dr. Steven Greer and Shari Adamiak, and MJ-12
insider Dr. Michael Wolf), the Colonel is suffering from a cancer
which may have been externally "imposed" to silence him. But, like
these other brave witnesses, the death threats have only made even
firmer Wilson's resolve to tell all.
This biographical sketch is based on limited information provided by
the Colonel, and certain data from his discharge papers. I have
written this biographical sketch, as a tribute
to a man who feels the public's right to know extremely-important
information about extraterrestrial contacts supercedes a military/
intelligence cabal's misuse of "national security" secrecy to cloak
their misdeeds. Here then is, without varnish, Steve Wilson, the man,
the officer and the crusader.
Steve Wilson was born in the 1930's, and spent five years in a state
orphanage. In order to escape the savage beatings there, he ran away.
He had always dreamed of being a pilot. Befriended by a prostitute
with the proverbial "heart of gold", this tall 13-year-old was
accepted into the Air Force, when his newfound "mother" stated he was
16 and signed for him to enlist.
Starting out as a private, he worked hard to advance. He took U.S.
Armed Forces Institute courses, earned his high school diploma, and
then the equivalent of a two-year college degree. Simultaneously he
studied at Aircraft Mechanic School and became a certified mechanic.
Then he enrolled in Flight Engineer school and became a flight
engineer on B-17s . Later he was promoted to Staff/Sergeant and to the
personal B-29 staff of General Crabbe. The General took a liking to
Steve, and encouraged him to reenlist and take an appointment to Air
Cadet school at Kelly Air Force Base. Completing Cadet School,
he was promoted to 2nd Lieutenant Wilson, a fighter pilot at last.
Lt. Wilson's first assignment was the Fighting 12th Fighter Squadron,
Clark Air Force Base, the Philippines. As soon as he arrived, the
Squadron was reassigned to Korea. He promptly was reassigned to the
67th Fighter Squadron, forward-based at the Korean War's front lines.
He graduated from Mustang propeller fighters to sleek Sabre jets, and
was soon doing supersonic runs down MIG Alley, dueling Communist jet
pilots.
On one run into enemy territory to bomb a dam, Lt. Wilson dropped his
load of bombs and watched the dam burst. As he turned his plane around
to return to base, he felt pain in his stomach and looked down to see
blood gushing from his side. The lieutenant radioed in that he had
been hit by ground fire. He reported his position and fuel level, and
added that he was about to pass out and would not be returning. Lt.
Wilson's memory fades out at that point. But subsequent events point
to extraordinary intervention by unseen helpers that kept him alive.
Three days after Wilson radioed in that he was passing out, the
control tower at the 67th Fighter Squadron base saw an extraordinary
sight. Wilson's plane was coming in for a landing although its engine
was not running. The fuselage was surrounded by a strange greenish
light. Flight line personnel, the officer of the day and Base
Operations staff all looked on in amazement, as the plane made a
perfect dead-stick landing. Inside they found Lt. Wilson still
unconscious! He was rushed to a hospital. When he regained
consciousness, he noted that his shrapnel wound was almost completely
healed! Furthermore, base staff informed him that his plane still had
the same amount of fuel as when he was hit and radioed in his fuel
level. The Lieutenant quickly got out of bed and secured a copy of the
reports on his highly-unusual experience. Shortly thereafter the
original reports disappeared, and no one at the base would talk about
his miraculous return.
Soon Lt. Wilson underwent numerous tests, and was debriefed on his
mysterious return incident by what he calls a "strange group". They
administered testing, which revealed that his IQ had jumped from an
already very high 162 to an unheard-of 232. After the testing was
completed, he was returned to active duty. But other changes had taken
place inside the young pilot, affecting his ESP abilities.
Two months after Wilson's unexplained aerial rescue, one of his
squadron mates, Chuck, was shot down during an aerial dogfight over
Korea. Wilson and the others in the squadron watched him go down and
disappear. As they banked their planes to return to base, Wilson heard
the downed pilot's voice in his head. Chuck was crying for help.
Wilson jumped in his cockpit seat, startled. Then he heard the voice
again. Lt. Wilson broke formation and started descending to look for
him. The Squadron Commander screamed over the radio for Wilson to get
back in formation. The lieutenant pretended he couldn't hear the
Commander, and radioed that he was having plane trouble.
Wilson flew low, 100 feet above the ground, searching for Chuck.
Suddenly Wilson heard the downed pilot's cry (telepathically) that he
had just flew over him. "The other airman sounded distressed that I
would not see him," Wilson recalls. He banked 180 degrees, and came in
low. Wilson could sense that he was there somewhere. He spotted a
clearing with enough room to land, and set his plane down. As he
rolled to a stop, he looked around and saw the other man's plane
wedged under some trees. Wilson taxied over close, jumped out and ran
to the wreckage. Chuck was pinned in and badly hurt. Wilson tells the
rest simply.
"Where the strength came from I don't know, but I ripped the wreckage
away from him, lifted him out of the cockpit and carried him to my
plane. I threw the radio gear out to make room for him and me. With me
sitting on his lap, I taxied out and to the end of the clearing.
Swinging around, I saw there was very little room for a take-off. I
looked up, and said, "God, if you exist, help me get this motherfucker
off the ground." I held the brakes, and gunned the engine to the
breaking point, let go of the brakes and rocketed across the clearing.
The minute I felt myself off the ground, I began to raise the wheels.
The enemy broke cover ahead of me and began firing. I passed overhead,
and heard the crunch and ripping of metal as I left my wheels in the
trees. My plane became hard to manage with the undercarriage ripped
away. I finally made it back to base. I could see the fire trucks
lining the runway, and saw the tower blink. They were asking me to wag
my wings if I had no radio. What else could I do? I wagged my wings,
passed over the field so they could see the problem, made another 180
degree turn and started in low. I picked the dirt next to the runway.
"I felt the jolt as my plane skidded down the side of the runway and
came to a halt. The ambulance was the first to arrive, and I already
had Chuck on my back and headed for the ambulance. He had made it out
alive. I walked around the plane and saw all the bullet holes. [A
report later said that there were 38 bullet holes.] I patted her tail
and said 'Thanks, Lady.' Then I looked at the sky and said, 'You
too.'"
Despite being a rebel, and disobeying orders, (which luckily the
Squadron Commander could not prove), Lt. Wilson was awarded his first
Distinguished Service Award for gallantry above and beyond the call of
duty. He remarks about the incident laconically, "Another one I should
have been court-martialed for." Forty-six days later, he again
switched roles back from rescuer to pilot needing rescue.
Wilson's plane developed engine trouble over enemy territory, and he
was forced to land. When he saw the enemy coming, he burned his plane
to the ground, and was taken prisoner. Because he burned his plane,
and would give the enemy no information, he was beaten for three
straight days. After the first hour his subconscious mind took over,
and he felt nothing. Wilson recounts his captivity with grim detail.
"I remember them asking for information about my Squadron, and about
troop movements. I realized that if I could hold out long enough and
through enough torture, that they would believe anything I told them,
and maybe then they would leave me alone. After three days, they tied
a stick through my arms behind my back, and placed the rope around my
neck and down my back, tying the rope to my feet, which were pulled
up. If I tried to lower my feet, it would choke me, cutting off my
air.
"They placed me in a small bamboo cage about two feet wide and three
feet long, and three feet high. I lay there with my head on the
ground, with my knees spread and holding me upright, and trying to
keep the rope from strangling me. There was no room to lay down or
move. I remember the gooks pointing and laughing at me, and a hatred
began in my gut as I have never hated before. Suddenly this thing
within my mind kicked in. I remember them having to drag me out and
into this hut. My body could feel nothing.
"Someone cut me loose and my mind began to function. The other
prisoners said I had lasted 15 days out there, and was the only one
who hadn't broke within a week. It was almost a day before the
circulation would let me move my legs and arms. As soon as I could get
around they drug me back to the torture chamber as we all called it.
"I swore to myself that those dirty bastards would never break me. Now
I hated with a ferocity that even scares me to this day. I remember
watching as they stuck bamboo shoots in the joints of my hands,
piercing between the bones. I could hear myself screaming, but my mind
was calm, and felt no pain. After what seems like days, I was
returned to the other prisoners. After several days, I could move my
hands some."
It had been 32 days. Lt. Wilson decided that he had had enough. That
night another pilot and he saw their chance to escape. They made our
break for it. Two of the guards who had laughed at his torture were on
duty that night. Wilson moved up behind the first one and snapped his
neck, then felt him slid to the ground lifeless. The lieutenant took
his knife, moved around behind the other, and cut his throat without a
qualm. They then ducked into the underbrush and ran the rest of that
night. Later they found out that they were only twenty-eight miles
from friendly lines. They had to crawl on their belly, only daring to
do so at night. They ate grubs and roots, just as they had been taught
in survival school. It took 23 days to crawl back to U.S. lines.
Wilson relates the climactic moment of their escape. "We topped the
last ridge, and lay on our bellies watching the movement below from a
point that overlooked the valley.
Nuckolls rolled over on his back, and you could hear his leather
jacket pull loose from the frozen ground. 'We made it,' I yelled. I
heard Nuckolls softly sobbing. Who ever said that grown men don't cry?
The most welcome sound I heard was a sentry's shout, 'Who goes there?
Advance and be recognized or I'll blow your fuckin' head off.'"
The next defining moment in Colonel Wilson's life began during the
Summer of 1960. The Cuban Missile Crisis became a global concern, as
President Kennedy and Soviet Chairman Kruschev were facing off in a
deadly game of global nuclear showdown over Soviet ICBMs in Cuba, and
a threat of using the U.S. Navy blockade of Cuba to sink any more
freighter deliveries of ICBMs.
By now Steve Wilson had been promoted to Air Force Captain, and
Commander of a Tactical Fighter Squadron out of Wright-Patterson AF
Base, Ohio. His Squadron was ordered to Florida, and then deployed to
Guantanamo Naval Base in Cuba, with orders to provide air cover for
Navy ships doing picket duty in the Cuban Gulf.
In 1963 Wilson's squadron was ordered back to Wright-Patterson AFB. He
soon received an assignment to fly cover over Houston. Just prior to
this, Captain Wilson had been told that he would be assigned to
Majestic-12 as soon as this mission was accomplished, and that upon
his transfer, he would become a Major. [Majestic-12 (MJ-12), he would
soon learn, is the super- secret organization which controls UFO
surveillance and interdictions, retrievals and analysis of recovered
extraterrestrial spacecraft and occupants, and public access to any
information about these matters.] It would turn out to be a day that
would linger in his mind for a long time.
Captain Wilson's mission in Houston was to keep any planes away from
the city during President Kennedy's visit. His squadron had shoot-to-
kill orders for anyone who disobeyed their commands to stay back.
While flying protective cover over Houston, the news came over the
squadron's radio that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas.
Wilson describes their reaction.
"I was shocked. I had met the man and really liked him. My eyes welled
up, and I could hardly see as we were ordered back to the airfield. I
could hardly see the runway. The tears were streaming down my face.
After landing, I watched some of the worst landings ever exhibited by
a squadron of Top Gun pilots. There wasn't a dry eye in the bunch."
After returning to Wright-Patterson AFB, Wilson was informed he was
receiving Top Secret clearance, and was being commissioned as a Major.
His indoctrination into the UFO secrets kept by the Majestic-12 agency
then began. He was shown the remains of the extraterrestrials and the
crashed UFOs from the Roswell incident in latter 1947, that were all
housed at Wright-Patterson's Hanger 84. He read reports he was shown
about that incident, and how Majestic-12 covered it up by putting all
the documents and expenses with a Soccoro, NM crash. He was informed
that, because of his special abilities, he was being assigned to
Majestic-12 (code name Majic12). As part of his duties, he would be
assigned to the 1st Special Forces Air Command, and would undergo
special training with Delta Force and then the Black Berets.
Wilson comments about that period. "I looked at these fellows I was to
train with. Every one was a trained killer and assassin. But it still
didn't prepare me for the MIB [Men In Black], The Wackenhuts [private
security firm operatives with government covert projects contracts.]
And all the Black Ops that exist deep within our government. This was
when I was told that I would cease to exist."
Major Wilson was informed that his job was so secret, that stops would
be placed on all his records and whereabouts, and that they would be
moved to Majestic-12. He was told that his telepathic ability was
needed for something very special, and that he would be on a "need to
know" basis, at least until he had a high enough security clearance.
Wilson recalls, "It made me feel very special, and inflated my ego
about 100%. Little did I know at the time that I would be involved in
one of the most dastardly and heinous coverups the world has ever
known. To think about it even today, makes me sick to my
stomach.....but at that time in my life, I felt I was serving my
country. I knew nothing of the greed and power of a few men, who were
later to be known as MAJI [the top executives of Majestic-12]."
For the next nine years, Major Wilson traveled to nearly every Air
Force base in the world, meeting and making contacts with key people
for MJ-12. Finally, in the summer of 1972, he was assigned to the 1st
Special Forces Air Command, Vandenburg Air Force Base. He was planning
on getting some rest and relaxation there. He had just put all his
gear away nicely, his B-4 travel bag finally empty and hanging in the
closet. No sooner had he finished unpacking than a man looking like a
refugee from a war camp sauntered into his room. The man flashed CIA
identification and told the Major that he needed to pack his bag, that
there was a plane waiting, and that they would be leaving in 20
minutes. True to his word, in 20 minutes the plane was taxiing to a
take-off.
Major Wilson knew better than to ask where they were going, but by
observation of the compass heading and the terrain, he knew they were
over Nevada. The plane circled and set down on a dry lake bed. Later
he learned it was Papoose Dry Lake [S-4], deep within the Nellis Air
Force Range in central Nevada. Even up close, the mountains and
terrain looked barren. They walked about 300 yards to a rock
outcropping. On the other side, nestled between some large rocks, was
an iron door with no handle. The scruffy-looking CIA man somehow
opened the door. They went inside and down a tunnel. At the end of the
passageway, Wilson glanced around quickly. He still marvels at the
size of the structure. "I could swear that the whole damned mountain
was hollow. Right down the middle was a runway, and at the end huge
doors, that I later found could be opened to allow a plane to take off
right out of the mountain."
The CIA man and he proceeded to an elevator without saying a word. The
CIA agent punched an unmarked button. Wilson does not know how many
floors they went down, because the elevator moved with lightning
speed. It descended so fast that he almost lost his dinner. He was
ushered out of the elevator and into an office down the hall to meet
the Full Colonel in charge. He saluted and sized up the tall angular
officer standing in front of him. The Colonel's beady eyes had a mean
look, which was matched by his cold and harsh attitude.
The Colonel informed Wilson of his duties, as well as the plane
schedules in and out of Nellis Air Force Base Headquarters, Las Vegas,
the closest acknowledged military facility. The Colonel also told
Wilson how to get there through the secret underground high-tech
tunnel- shuttle system connecting this installation with Nellis.
Wilson was also warned that anything he saw was Top Secret, and that
if he so much as breathed wrong, or opened his mouth about anything he
saw, it would be his last breath. Wilson noted soberly, "I believed
him."
Major Wilson had begun his duties at the Papoose Lake installation,
still not knowing what existed 30 stories farther down. He had been
well indoctrinated in Top Secret work and knew all the consequences of
keeping the nation's most guarded secrets. The past six years had been
slow and boring, he recalls, and other than what he saw at Wright-
Patterson AFB, he felt that he was in a vacuum going nowhere.
He was sitting in his office at S-4 mulling this over one morning,
when a Lieutenant Colonel Bennet came in. He asked Wilson if he was
busy, ("Like he gave a damn," Wilson
recalls), and said "Let's go." Wilson followed the Lieutenant Colonel,
and they eventually wound up two stories down at the super-secret
"S-4" UFO technology area. As they came out on a landing there, Wilson
saw eight different kinds of UFOs! There were intellectual-looking
people all over the area, whom he guessed were scientists. He glanced
at Bennett, who cut off his implied question with a curt "Forget it."
The Colonel and the Major went into a cubicle where there were about
twenty officers and civilians sitting around. Wilson was startled,
when a woman came in who was at least eight feet tall. There was not
an ounce of excess fat on her body, he recalls. She wore a strange-
looking jump suit, which had a "HI" pattern on the right side above
the breast line. To this day Wilson ecollects the details of this
striking encounter.
"The woman had finely-chiseled features. Her blonde hair cascaded
neatly past her shoulders. Her eyes were the bluest blue I'd ever
seen. Somehow she was different. Little did I know then, how
different! She sat a large crystal on the table, and without warning,
her fingers began to glow as she ran them over this crystal. A 3-D
hologram began to form above it! I looked around the room and
everyone's mouth was hanging open, and suddenly I noticed mine was,
too. Little did I realize that at that moment my life would forever be
changed. My past teachings slipped from me as I stared. My whole
concept of life did a 180-degree turn, as I watched the Hologram,
complete with sound, unfold the mysteries of the past and the present,
and of other worlds."
Colonel Wilson related that among the scenes, which the female
extraterrestrial's crystal hologram displayed for the assembled group,
was the history of the Earth and of extraterrestrial involvement with
it. That involvement included fashioning the consciousness of Jesus
and sending him to live among Earthlings to point to a better way to
understand life and to live. The extraterrestrial woman also showed
the officers and scientists scenes from inhabited planets of other
star systems. Wilson was transformed by this experience. "When it was
over, I knew that, whatever part I was to play in all of this, my life
as I knew it had ended forever."
He would go on to become appointed executive officer of Project
Pounce. Created in the final days of December, 1980, Project Pounce
is an elite group of Air Force Black Berets and military scientists
who rush to the scene of any UFO crashes, cordon off the area,
retrieve the extraterrestrial spacecraft and any occupants, then
"sanitize" the crash site back to its pre-crash appearance, and
intimidate any outside witnesses into silence.
Eventually rising to the rank of Colonel, and receiving a Ultra Top
Secret, Cosmic Q, level-27 security clearance, Wilson learned much
about the inner workings of the Majestic-12 agency. Wilson's UFO-
secrecy duties included interacting with covert "MIB" enforcement
goons from the Wackenhut private security firm on contract to MJ-12.
Wilson came to despise the "Whack"-enhut killers. The Colonel learned
about secret
space warfare operations, conducted by military astronauts trained at
a covert Air Force Special Academy. He found out that these military
astronauts fly U.S.-manufactured antigravity aerospace craft, such as
the two-man Lockheed X-22A disc, out of Vandenberg and Beale Air Force
Bases in California up into space. These military astronauts then
interdict UFOs deemed "unfriendly", and fire Star Wars weapons
to disable or destroy them.
Colonel Wilson even came to know some things about the top command of
MAJI, including the identity of two of its executive board members,
Chairman Henry Kissinger and advisory scientist Edward Teller, both of
whom hold the top-most Level 33 security clearances. He eventually
learned enough about their avarice and hunger for power to sicken him.
He discovered that the MAJI were "so powerful that they acted as
though they were above the President, and the laws of nature and
mankind." To his distress Wilson found out later that they were to be
known as the New World Order.
Finally sickening of the unconstitutional and unethical activities of
the Majestic-12 agency, and of his involvement in "one of the most
dastardly and heinous coverups the world has ever known", Wilson got
out. At retirement, after 40 years in the Air Force, Lt. Colonel
Wilson was Flight Commander of the First Special Forces Air Command,
Vandenburg Air Force Base. His decorations include: the Air Force
Distinguished Service Medal, the Silver Star, two Air Force
Distinguished Flying Crosses, two Purple Hearts, the Joint Services
Commendation Medal, the Air Force Commendation Medal, the USAF
Good Conduct Medal and the National Defense Service Medal.
After musing for 15 years, he decided to risk his life and tell all.
The means he used is the global communication tool of the Internet.
His torrent of disclosures of sensitive
information has been placed on the Skywatch webpage, [<www.wic.net/
colonel/ufopage.htm]. He was a frequent communicator on the UFO
information newsgroup he founded, currently Skywatch_ok@msn. com.
After years of military and intelligence career-building by playing by
the rules, Lt. Colonel in retirement displayed the highest patriotism
of all, whistle-blowing on the corrupt MJ-12 parallel government. Now
stricken with cancer, Steve Wilson assesses the price of his years in
the "Black World" of the UFO Cover-Up. "I have no feelings,
truthfully. My association with MAJI has left me dead inside. I feel
myself still cold and calculating. I never let anyone get close to me.
I feel like a human robot. I have killed mercilessly and lied for the
good of the country, or so I believed at the time."
His final comments cryptically hint at what everyone will soon know
about extraterrestrial visitation, and the profound changes society
will make as a consequence. "The things I have seen are beyond human
understanding and totally unbelievable. I only have a desire to help
humanity somehow through what is bound to come soon."
This short biography is based on notes and communications from Colonel
Steve Wilson to me in the months before he died. It is dedicated to
the memory of this courageous soldier patriot. -Richard Boylan, Ph.D.
Richard Boylan, Ph.D. 2826 O Street, Suite 2, Sacramento, CA 95816,
USA. (916) 455-0120 E-mail: rich....@24stex.com ;
Primary website: http://www.ufonetwork.com/boylan/ Author: Close
Extraterrestrial Encounters, Labored Journey To The Stars and Project
Epiphany. Regular columnist in "Contact Forum" UFO newsletter:(800)
366-0264; and Bob Dean's "Stargate Newsletter": Star...@rtd.com
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:5f55d999-bc70-4f33...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 18, 3:57�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:8
> e12ccc2-deb9-4f7b...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 17, 3:08�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> innews:6
>> > 3d7577d-367e-4139-b5e9-54c119e34...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
<snip>
>> >> > Have it your way, I pray for you cult sakes that the General
>> >> > decides not to drop 10,000 H-Bombs on your debunker compound!!
>> >> > �If he gives the heads up, I would recommend to head for the
>> >> > hill of MARS!!!
>>
>> >> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
>>
>> > That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is make
>> > recommendations.
>>
>> Weaseling backpedal noted, Artie/Gary.
Lack of response noted, kook.
>> > But a sober-minded person would of course use them
>> > to get rid of the debunker problem.
>>
>> That leaves you out, sockboi.
>
> Exactly how many warnings do we have to give your cult?
All you do is talk, do something or shut the fuck up, sockboi.
> I guess the
> General wants to make sure he has every one of you punks pegged! No
> matter, this time good WILL triumph over evil, the side the debunker
> represent. Now enough of your silly talk, leave these very important
> subjects to honest researchers. And don't come back, EVER!!!
Request DENIED, kook.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:5f55d999-bc70-4f33...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Dec 18, 3:57 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:8
Again, it was NOT a request, but a direct ORDER from the General
himself. Now quit being a sock-puppet troll and find something else
to play with. I can only hold off the General for so long, after
that, it probably will be the complete annihilation of your debunker
cult. Now move along, there is nothing here for your kind.
BENTWATERS SOLDIER SAW INSIDE SUPER-SECRET VAULT
Base Was Site of Famous UFO Events in 1980
by Michael Lindemann
The military base known as RAF Bentwaters in England is associated
with one of the most impressive yet controversial UFO cases of all
time. Almost no one disputes that something strange occurred near the
base during late December of 1980, but what it was remains shrouded in
mystery. Odd moving lights were reported in the sky and in the
Rendlesham Forest that separates Bentwaters from its nearby sister
base (now closed) called RAF Woodbridge. Soldiers were dispatched
into the woods, led by Lt. Colonel Charles Halt, USAF. (Though on
British soil, both bases were manned by American forces).
On January 13, 1981, Halt sent a classified memo regarding the events
to the British Ministry of Defence. That memo, released to U.S. UFO
researcher Robert Todd in June of 1983 through the Freedom of
Information Act, says that several witnesses reported a triangular,
metallic, highly luminous object either hovering or standing on legs,
and then maneuvering through the forest, on the night of December 27.
Though not a witness to
this object himself, Halt said that the next morning he did witness
three depressions in the ground, arranged in a triangular pattern,
that apparently marked where the object had stood. Halt further
stated that on the following night he and others witnessed an
astounding display of moving lights in the sky.
Halt's memo left little doubt that whatever happened was out of the
ordinary, but continuing efforts by independent researchers have not
resolved the Bentwaters mystery, and current opinions vary widely.
Some now believe the strange events were all staged as part of a very
elaborate psychological warfare test, possibly involving mind-control
techniques. Others say craft of unknown origin were seen at close
range, and that extensive photo and physical evidence was gathered at
the site -- all of which was then locked away in government vaults.
Still others say not only craft but "aliens" were seen and
contacted. Finally, there are the hard-line skeptics who say
nothing at all
remarkable happened, except that airmen who should know better mistook
the light of a nearby lighthouse in the fog for something
otherworldly.
Now CNI News has learned of a U.S. soldier who was stationed at
Bentwaters some years after the famous 1980 events, but who saw
several things that lend strong credence to the strange claims
associated with the base. This soldier prefers that his name not be
used in this story, but he has communicated under his own name with
CNI News editor Michael Lindemann.
Concerning his military background, the soldier says: "I entered the
service in 1983 and was assigned to RAF Bentwaters in 1984. I was
involved in nuclear weapons and because of our extensive background
investigations, members of our section were often called upon to do
other high-security details. Since even the Security Police didn't
have as high a clearence, a lot of these details were simply being our
own guards -- hence my access to the vault (see below). I volunteered
for as many of these details as I could because it was supposed to
create an impressive military record. However, when I arrived at my
next base (I left Bentwaters late in '86) no records of my special
duties followed me. I called my immediate supervisor when I
discovered this and he said, 'What happens at Bentwaters stays at
Bentwaters.' I think this had more to do with security than UFOs. I
was an enlisted man and I was an E-4 Sgt when I entered the vault. I
left the service in 1988. I was still angry that none of my record
followed me. I simply didn't re-enlist and had an honorable
discharge. I was still an E-4."
Here is the soldier's account of his extraordinary experience in "the
vault" at Bentwaters, where apparently something very interesting and
very secret is hidden.
"On RAF Bentwaters there is a secured area around the flightline. This
is normal and many people have access, but not all. Inside this area
is another secured area containing the munitions dump. Again, this is
normal; fewer people have access to this. On this particular base
there is another weapons storage area that only a few people can get
in. You are searched and must travel around in pairs inside this
area. It is heavily guarded. The bunkers in this area require an
elaborate key and password sequence to get in. One particular bunker
is different.
"Inside this bunker is a vault with two combinations and two locks.
Because of regulations, no one person can have access to more than one
[combination or lock]. Hence, if you can get a key you won't get the
combo, or vice-versa. It takes four people to open the door -- plus
the security team verifying passwords, etc. This is the most secure
area I have ever seen in the Air Force.
"I was picked to be a key holder, which meant that I was armed, and
told to escort the individual who needed [access to] the vault, along
with the three others needed to open the door. I don't know who the
individual was; he was American and a civilian. We opened the door
and I at first couldn't believe it. It contained a roughly-made shelf
made out of two-by-fours holding two old wooden crates. The
individual opened one of the crates, which was only sealed with a lead
seal, and inside was a green styrofoam container in two halves. He
opened it up and inside was a rod about a quarter inch in diameter and
bent about three times along its length. It looked solid and if it
were straight it would be about a foot long. It was dull but
corrosion free from what I could tell. The man looked at it for about
a minute, then put it away and resealed the box with a new lead seal.
"For his minute we spent about four hours preparing to open the
vault. It is that secure. That was when I started asking questions
about why a small rod would require so much security. The underlings
such as me hadn't a clue, but when I started asking others I was told
not to worry about it. One officer that I knew personally once said
under his breath that it was 'proof,' but when I pressed him he denied
saying it. The only other response I got, from people who obviously
didn't know, [was] that it probably had something to do with all the
UFOs that supposedly visit the base."
This soldier has no doubt that he saw something very extraordinary in
that vault, but he was highly skeptical of a UFO connection until he
had his own amazing sighting at Bentwaters some time later. Here is
his account.
"I was working nights and for once the sky above the base was clear.
I took an astronomy class in college and was testing my knowledge of
the constellations when I saw what looked like an equilateral
triangle. Of all the constellations, none I could think of formed a
triangle with such bright stars. I had been looking and thinking for
about five or ten minutes when, right when I was looking directly at
them, the stars turned a full circle, each ending up where they
started, and then shot out at 90 degree angles from the direction they
were moving, and within a second were gone over the horizon, each
going a different direction. Because they were just points of light I
figured they were far away and that would make their speed something
incredible. I was so shook up I took the rest of the night off and
for weeks had this nightmare that all the stars in the sky were
spinning, and thus the end of the universe was near. That may sound
strange, but it was that disturbing."
It is interesting to compare this soldier's sighting with
Colonel Halt's eyewitness description of events on December 28, 1980.
Halt wrote in his memo: "Three star-like objects were noticed in the
sky, two objects to the north and one to the south, all of which were
about 10 degrees off the horizon. The objects moved rapidly in sharp
angular movements and displayed red, green and blue lights. The
objects to the north appeared to be elliptical through an 8-12 power
lens. They then turned to full circles. The objects to the north
remained in the sky for an hour or more. The object to the south was
visible for two or three hours and beamed down a stream of light from
time to time."
=================================================================
"In all times and all places, with the possible exception of
Western Europe for the past two hundred years, a social commerce
between human beings and various types of discarnate entities, or non-
human intelligences, was taken for granted."
-Terence McKenna
=================================================================
Excerpt from:
CNI News - Volume 13.7
December 28, 1995
Published by the ISCNI News Center
Editor: Michael Lindemann
IS...@aol.com
ISCNI encourages you to respond to stories in CNI News.
Private responses can be emailed to IS...@aol.com,
subj: CNI News Editor
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:2fdef834-2d1d-4bf8...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
Then sock up as the "General" and put it in writing, kook.
> Now quit being a sock-puppet troll and find something else
> to play with.
Projection noted, Artie/Gary.
> I can only hold off the General for so long, after
> that,
What, you'll have blisters and a sore crotch?
> it probably will be the complete annihilation of your debunker
> cult. Now move along, there is nothing here for your kind.
No.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Is it true you are some gay stalker freak like Pete said?" - Edmo
employs the Kook Info Nutworks to get the facts wrong again.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:2fdef834-2d1d-4bf8...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 21, 2:35 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:5
I'll tell you what, the General's staff notified me that you, for at
least the time being, are allowed to stay. But you must filter your
posts through the Octagon®. So please limit your posts to no more
than 1 a week.
Sir ArtiØ
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:b5c93062-cdc0-44c4...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
Thanks for the evidence you're a powerless wussy.
> But you must filter your posts through the Octagon�.
Great! Address, please?
> So please limit your posts to no more than 1 a week.
Try and stop me, sockboi.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"An award that you PAID FOR! 2nd place out of TWO BOOKS! That means
you won FIRST LOSER and LAST PLACE both at the same time!" - Edmo
the loser has to face the reality of his loserdom.
Cal
news:hgvudn$mi9$3...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
Cujo, I am curious: do you think Artie/Gary really believes what he saying,
or is he just a troll? Do you think he believes that anyone at all thinks
he has any credibility? I can't quite figure the guy out, and I'm thinking
maybe you can provide some answers.
HVAC
news:hh055c$51t$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> > Have it your way, I pray for you cult sakes that the
>>>> >> >> >> > General decides not to drop 10,000 H-Bombs on your
>>>> >> >> >> > debunker compound!! If he gives the heads up, I would
>>>> >> >> >> > recommend to head for the hill of MARS!!!
>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
>>>>
>>>> >> >> > That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is make
>>>> >> >> > recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> >> >> Weaseling backpedal noted, Artie/Gary.
> <snip>
>
> Cujo, I am curious: do you think Artie/Gary really believes what he
> saying, or is he just a troll? Do you think he believes that anyone at
> all thinks he has any credibility? I can't quite figure the guy out, and
> I'm thinking maybe you can provide some answers.
Wholeflapper is THE biggest debunker of them all.
--
'I don't want to believe, I want to know.' -Carl Sagan
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:hh05qt$au4$1...@hvac.motzarella.org:
It's either a troll, a kook or one of Ray Kazooski's Gubmint
Disinfotainment Agents but it could be all three. The original
Holeflapper was a certified nut case who was locked up in the loony bin
in Oregon. In any case, this version of Holeflapper is no more than
target practice.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"For the sake of the newsgroup I am going to get off for good." - Yet
another of Edmo's many lies.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:b5c93062-cdc0-44c4...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 23, 2:17 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:2
Of course the General HAS that power, but obviously he has more
important things to do than to worry about a newsgroup troll. I have
already posted the whereabouts of the FEMA camps. The Commandant is
expecting you and your cult.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Cujo DeSockpuppet" <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
>
> news:hgvudn$mi9$3...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>
> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> >news:b5c93062-cdc0-44c4...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> On Dec 23, 2:17 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >>> innews:2
There is nothing to figure out, everything I post is 100% accurate.
Our side of honest researchers and all civilized people are uniting
against the worst threat known to mankind: the debunkers and their
ilk: suspected debunkers, debunker supporters, sympathizers and
enablers. They WILL be defeated. Now get off of these newsgroups
with your silly questions!!
Sir ArtiØ
BDK
@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, sci...@zzz.com says...
I've got dibs on a bunk at Beech Grove. I like trains.
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:e4eca995-ce1a-41d3...@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 24, 6:38�am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:b
> 5c93062-cdc0-44c4...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 23, 2:17�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> innews:2
>> > fdef834-2d1d-4bf8-9b99-589bb2a36...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Dec 21, 2:35�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>
>> >> >> wrote innews:5
>> >> > f55d999-bc70-4f33-8784-eab5a4469...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> >> > On Dec 18, 3:57�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote innews:8
>> >> >> > e12ccc2-deb9-4f7b-8ffc-a21172fe5...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.c
>> >> >> > om:
>>
>> >> >> >> > On Dec 17, 3:08�pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet
>> >> >> >> > <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>> >> >> >> >> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:6
>> >> >> >> > 3d7577d-367e-4139-b5e9-54c119e34...@13g2000prl.googlegroups
>> >> >> >> > .co m:
Lack of response noted, powerless wussy.
>> > But you must filter your posts through the Octagon�.
>>
>> Great! Address, please?
Lack of response noted, powerless wussy.
>> > So please limit your posts to no more than 1 a week.
>>
>> Try and stop me, sockboi.
>
> Of course the General HAS that power, but obviously he has more
> important things to do than to worry about a newsgroup troll. I have
> already posted the whereabouts of the FEMA camps.
Message-id, please?
> The Commandant is expecting you and your cult.
Sure they are...
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"God speaks to me, that's why I can read the heavens." - Edmo, clearly
losing it.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:49cfcd42-24c0-47d6...@h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>> >>> >> >> >> > debunker compound!! 锟絀f he gives the heads up, I would
>> >>> >> >> >> > recommend to head for the hill of MARS!!!
>>
>> >>> >> >> >> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
>>
>> >>> >> >> > That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is make
>> >>> >> >> > recommendations.
>>
>> >>> >> >> Weaseling backpedal noted, Artie/Gary.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Cujo, I am curious: do you think Artie/Gary really believes what he
>> saying, or is he just a troll? 锟紻o you think he believes that anyone
>> at all thinks he has any credibility? 锟絀 can't quite figure the guy
>> out, and I'm thinking maybe you can provide some answers.
>
> There is nothing to figure out, everything I post is 100% accurate.
> Our side of honest researchers and all civilized people are uniting
> against the worst threat known to mankind: the debunkers and their
> ilk: suspected debunkers, debunker supporters, sympathizers and
> enablers. They WILL be defeated. Now get off of these newsgroups
> with your silly questions!!
Powerless wussy.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:49cfcd42-24c0-47d6...@h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> >> >>> >> >> >> > recommend to head for the hill of MARS!!!
>
> >> >>> >> >> >> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
>
> >> >>> >> >> > That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is make
> >> >>> >> >> > recommendations.
>
> >> >>> >> >> Weaseling backpedal noted, Artie/Gary.
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >> Cujo, I am curious: do you think Artie/Gary really believes what he
> >> at all thinks he has any credibility? I can't quite figure the guy
> >> out, and I'm thinking maybe you can provide some answers.
>
> > There is nothing to figure out, everything I post is 100% accurate.
> > Our side of honest researchers and all civilized people are uniting
> > against the worst threat known to mankind: the debunkers and their
> > ilk: suspected debunkers, debunker supporters, sympathizers and
> > enablers. They WILL be defeated. Now get off of these newsgroups
> > with your silly questions!!
>
> Powerless wussy.
The cover-up is OVER, not get lost.
BENTWATERS SOLDIER SAW INSIDE SUPER-SECRET VAULT
Base Was Site of Famous UFO Events in 1980
The military base known as RAF Bentwaters in England is associated
combo, or vice-versa. It takes four people to open the door --plus the
three hours and beamed down a stream of light from time to time.”
By Michael Lindemann
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:59808d0c-18b0-4dcc...@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 26, 5:37锟絘m, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> innews:4
> 9cfcd42-24c0-47d6...@h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 24, 8:33锟絘m, "Cal" <charmar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Cujo DeSockpuppet" <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:hgvudn$mi9$3...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>>
>> >> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
>> >> > in
>> >> >news:b5c93062-cdc0-44c4...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups
>> >> >.co m:
>>
>> >> >> On Dec 23, 2:17 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>
>> >> >>> wrote innews:2
>> >> >> fdef834-2d1d-4bf8-9b99-589bb2a36...@w19g2000pre.googlegroups.com
>> >> >> :
>>
>> >> >>> > On Dec 21, 2:35 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net>
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>
>> >> >>> >> wrote innews:5
>> >> >>> > f55d999-bc70-4f33-8784-eab5a4469...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.
>> >> >>> > com
>> >> >>> > :
>>
>> >> >>> >> > On Dec 18, 3:57 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet
>> >> >>> >> > <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>> >> >>> >> >> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:8
>> >> >>> >> > e12ccc2-deb9-4f7b-8ffc-a21172fe5...@s21g2000prm.googlegrou
>> >> >>> >> > ps. com
>> >:
>>
>> >> >>> >> >> > On Dec 17, 3:08 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet
>> >> >>> >> >> > <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>> >> >>> >> >> >> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:6
>> >> >>> >> >> > 3d7577d-367e-4139-b5e9-54c119e34...@13g2000prl.googlegr
>> >> >>> >> >> > oup s.c
>> > o
>> >> >>> >> >> > m:
>>
>> >> >>> >> <snip>
>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > Have it your way, I pray for you cult sakes that
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > the General decides not to drop 10,000 H-Bombs on
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > your debunker compound!! 锟絀f he gives the heads up,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > I woul
> d
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > recommend to head for the hill of MARS!!!
>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
>>
>> >> >>> >> >> > That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is
>> >> >>> >> >> > make recommendations.
>>
>> >> >>> >> >> Weaseling backpedal noted, Artie/Gary.
>>
>> >> <snip>
>>
>> >> Cujo, I am curious: do you think Artie/Gary really believes what
>> >> he saying, or is he just a troll? 锟紻o you think he believes that
>> >> anyone at all thinks he has any credibility? 锟絀 can't quite figure
>> >> the guy out, and I'm thinking maybe you can provide some answers.
>>
>> > There is nothing to figure out, everything I post is 100% accurate.
>> > Our side of honest researchers and all civilized people are uniting
>> > against the worst threat known to mankind: the debunkers and their
>> > ilk: suspected debunkers, debunker supporters, sympathizers and
>> > enablers. 锟絋hey WILL be defeated. 锟絅ow get off of these newsgroups
>> > with your silly questions!!
>>
>> Powerless wussy.
>
> The cover-up is OVER, not get lost.
Not a chance, sockboi.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"My agendas are pure and deserve whatever backing I can sleaze for
them." - Rebecca "Machiaveli" Ore on her trolling ways.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:59808d0c-18b0-4dcc...@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 26, 5:37 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
> >> innews:4
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > I woul
> > d
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > recommend to head for the hill of MARS!!!
>
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Drop the bombs, Artie/Gary. I dare you.
>
> >> >> >>> >> >> > That's is up to the General's staff, all I can do is
> >> >> >>> >> >> > make recommendations.
>
> >> >> >>> >> >> Weaseling backpedal noted, Artie/Gary.
>
> >> >> <snip>
>
> >> >> Cujo, I am curious: do you think Artie/Gary really believes what
> >> >> anyone at all thinks he has any credibility? I can't quite figure
> >> >> the guy out, and I'm thinking maybe you can provide some answers.
>
> >> > There is nothing to figure out, everything I post is 100% accurate.
> >> > Our side of honest researchers and all civilized people are uniting
> >> > against the worst threat known to mankind: the debunkers and their
> >> > ilk: suspected debunkers, debunker supporters, sympathizers and
> >> > with your silly questions!!
>
> >> Powerless wussy.
>
> > The cover-up is OVER, not get lost.
>
> Not a chance, sockboi.
Listen here Mr. Sock Puppetry, these groups are not for 1) 9-year old
bed-wetters (2) useful idiots (3) truth-terrorists. Since youare ALL
THREE, you are triply banned. Now git!!
Sir ArtiØ
Cal
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"Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:hh094q$le4$2...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
OK, I'm still confused. But since Artie/Gary/Richard has kindly asked me to
participate in this group (by cleverly pretending to ask me to leave), I
guess I'll be here for a while. :)
Cal
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
news:49cfcd42-24c0-47d6...@h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Sir Arti�
Let me get this straight: people that disagree with you are unspeakably
evil. Does that about sum it up? So if everyone thinks like you, the world
will be a better place. Does that include making assertions without backing
them up?
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:49cfcd42-24c0-47d6...@h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Let me get this straight: people that disagree with you are unspeakably
> evil. Does that about sum it up? So if everyone thinks like you, the world
> will be a better place. Does that include making assertions without backing
> them up?
Quit confusing the issues, THIS ISLAND EARTH has a serious debunker
problem. These truth-terrorists ultimate goal is the destruction of
ALL MANKIND! The real Patriots and honest researchers will not allow
that to happen. So are you with us or are you with them?
Sir Artio
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 10:17 am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:26:21 -0800 (PST), "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
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> > Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > >Now that the UFO cover-up is now officially over, and all countries
> > >now readily admit ETs are real and are in contact with various
> > >extraterrestrial races, there remains one thorny problem. As the
> > >President of HACA (The Human-Alien Contact Agenda) Sir Arthur C.B.E.
> > >Wholelfaffers A.S.A. recently asked at a forum for the Honest
> > >Researchers and Physicists forum, "what exactly are we going to do
> > >with this horrible truth-terror threat known as UFO debunkers?."
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> > We pass them all on to kind Miss "Mary Poppins"
> > (real name Mary Jones) ... (the owner of a bar in Panama)
> > (USA owned of course)
> > Or those that want to live with their wife, can do.
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> > Besides, I was this close... >>> /
> > to becoming General Commander UFO Debunker
> > for the good of all Humanity !!!
> > So do unto others as you would do unto others!
>
> > P.S.
> > UFOs are real, thanks to America, England, Ireland, Australia, New
> > Zealand, Germany, Japan, and other special countries.
>
> > Keep in Contact Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA !
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> > >Continuing on, Wholeaffers recommended, "I guess there is no easy way
> > >out of this, we have to find a solution and quick. That means, of
> > >course, the FINAL solution to the debunker problem. They will simply
> > >have to be FORCED into FEMA camps and guarded so they can never again
> > >walk amongst us civil, decent humans. After that, who knows, perhaps
> > >we can have them work in the plutonium mines or something."
> > >The conference ended on the upbeat note!!!
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> Okay, we still have a MAJOR, MAJOR problem on our hands. The public
> would just like to do away with these truth-terrorists, and I am not
> totally against that idea. Although I am really a friend of the
> debunkers and truly feel that we can keep them under lock and key at
> the FEMA facilities. It is true that there is always the possibility
> that a debunker can escape and contaminate our civil society, but it
> is a risk that I am willing to take. But if the public votes to fry
> them, than I will follow what the majority wants, that is known as
> democracy!! SO know we need to get cracking. All the world's
> military's are joining up to fight the War Against Truth-Terrorism,
> and not a second too soon. Now that the UFO cover-up has ended, the
> debunkers are planning to destroy THIS ISLAND EARTH, we simply cannot
> and WILL NOT allow this to happen. Even "H"eroin is planning evil
> acts against honest researchers and concerned citizens. Debunkers are
> EVIL and get their orders from the DEVIL. This has been proven!!
it has been PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that the debunkers work
with the DEVIL!! Each and every debunker will have to be sent to the
Sun and beyond!! God damn you debunkers, we will have to ask you
right now to go over to your nearest FEMA camp. Tell them a certain
General Killemall wants to interrogate you personally like!!
One day soon ALL MANKIND will be united and free, but it can ONLY
happen when the very last debunker is eliminated! We can do this, we
must do this, we SHALL do this. It is written in the GOOD BOOK by Sir
Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers Jr! Buy it now wherever good books are
sold or send a check or money order for 1 quadrillion dollars to me.
Thanks in advance!
Hagar
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On Dec 10 2009, 4:21 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 10:17 am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:26:21 -0800 (PST), "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
>
> > Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > >Now that the UFO cover-up is now officially over, and all countries
> > >now readily admit ETs are real and are in contact with various
> > >extraterrestrial races, there remains one thorny problem. As the
> > >President of HACA (The Human-Alien Contact Agenda) Sir Arthur C.B.E.
> > >Wholelfaffers A.S.A. recently asked at a forum for the Honest
> > >Researchers and Physicists forum, "what exactly are we going to do
> > >with this horrible truth-terror threat known as UFO debunkers?."
< snip LipFlapper drivel >
Say, Sir Artio, have give any thought to suicide ?? that would put you out
of you misery ...
HVAC
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> it has been PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that the debunkers work
> with the DEVIL!!
Please allow me to introduce myself....
--
Harlow Victor Allen Campbell
Moderator
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HVAC
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happen when the very last debunker is eliminated! We can do this, we
must do this, we SHALL do this. It is written in the GOOD BOOK by Sir
Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers Jr! Buy it now wherever good books are
sold or send a check or money order for 1 quadrillion dollars to me.
Thanks in advance!
OK. I've got the money ready to go.
Give me your home address.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <garymatalu...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> !!
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> > it has been PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that the debunkers work
> > with the DEVIL!!
>
> Please allow me to introduce myself....
PROOF!
HVAC
~~PROOF!
Proof *THIS*, Two Dogs Fucking
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:20e2333d-c76a-4122...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 12, 7:07 am, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <garymatalu...@gmail.com> wrote
> > in
> > messagenews:2d784f46-3dc9-40cb...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > !!
>
> > > it has been PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that the debunkers work
> > > with the DEVIL!!
>
> > Please allow me to introduce myself....
>
> ~~PROOF!
>
> Proof *THIS*, Two Dogs Fucking
Proof you are a worthless debunker, start marching to your nearest
FEMA camp!
Sir ArtiØ
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Good point even if I DID write it!