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Donald B. Ratsch

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3168 and JESUS CHRIST

A newly released book that is sure to rock the Geometry, religious,
space and mathematics worlds concerns the number 3168, a number that is
manifesting itself throughout all creation and the universe and is
associated with Jesus Christ. It will surely be a blow to those who say
that ET aliens created earthlings and Jesus Christ himself. The
following evidence instead proves that Jesus Christ himself is the
creator of the earth, moon and the cosmos because of the four numbers,
3168. In the book, "Jesus Christ the number of his name" by Bonnie Gaunt
has nothing to do with the bible code we have all heard about. Simply
put, when using the Greek alphabet in which each letter has a numerical
value, the word "LORD" has a numerical value of 800, that is, Kappa=20,
Upsilon=400, Rho=100, Iota=10, Omicron=70 and Sigma=200. Adding all
those sum up to the number 800. Using the same Greek alphabet and their
numerical values for the name "JESUS", sums up to 888 and finally the
same method for the word "CHRIST' sums up to 1480. When adding up all
three,

LORD=800
JESUS=888
CHRIST=1480
----
TOTAL=3168

This number, 3168 is in all the universe and its creations, lending to
great support that Jesus Christ, the second person of the trinity was
its creator. For example light travels from the sun to the earth a
distance of roughly 92 million miles. Sometimes the distance is
diferent because of Earth's eliptical orbit around the sun. But the
mean distance that light travels from the sun to earth is 93 million
miles. Using the Encyclopedia Britannica list the mean distance that
light travels from the sun to each of our nine planets (dropping the
zeros)

Mercury..............36
Venus................67
Earth................93
Mars................142
Jupiter.............483
Saturn..............886
Uranus............1,782
Neptune...........2,793
Pluto.............3,672
----
TOTAL 9,954

Thus the combined distances that light travels from the sun to each of
the nine planets is 9,954 (dropping the zeros). Think of this number as
representing the giant circumference ball of our solar System. If we
were to draw a line directly through its middle, that line, its diameter
would measure 3,168. 3168 again. The amazing reality is that the whole
Solar System, of which man's home is a small part, bears the number of
its Maker, "LORD JESUS CHRIST." Also consider that the place of Jesus's
birth is Bethlehem, Israel. What is Bethlehem's latitude? You guessed
it. 31.68 degrees North. In the Jewish bible in the book of Micah 5:2,
"You Bethlehem Ephratah, you who are little among the thousands of
Judah, out of you he shall come forth to Me to be ruler in Israel, and
his goings forth have been from of old, from the days of ETERNITY." In
addition, the words, "The Way" (Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and
the life") The bible speaks of Jesus as the "Light" of the world and
"Mary" whose ovum egg was fertilized by the Holy Spirit who then bore
Jesus. In adding the numerical value of the words, "The Way", "Light"
and "Mary", each total to 352. Why is 352 significant? Because the
Longitude of Bethlehem is 35.2 degrees East. Also if someone were to
draw a square all the way around the circle of the earth, enclosing the
earth within, the measure of the square or perimeter of square would be
31,680 miles. Those four numbers, 3168 again. If anyone is interested
about the number 3168 and how it relates to the moon and many other
astronomical things, can be found by obtaining this interesting book and
receiving it in less than a week by going to
http://www.barnesandnoble.com. The book "Jesus Christ: The Number of
His Name: The Amazing Number Code found in the Bible." Its book ISBN
number is: 0-932813-60-7. the book is soon if not already arrived in
major book stores accross the USA. for those who have "Real Audio" on
their computers can see and hear the author, Bonnie gaunt as she is
interviewed about her book and the details. Just go to
http://www.broadcast.com/lightsource/tv/700/archive.html. Then scroll
down to Tuesday, September 1, 1998 and click onto it. After arriving
there, fast-forward to 47 minutes, 50 seconds for the interview.

On my server, the search engine is "Hotbot." Out of curiosity I typed
in 31.68 to see what would come up. Ninth on the list was the
following:

"9. RUSSIAN BIBLE PSA-69
A CHAPTER FROM THE BIBLE IN RUSSIAN (RST)
97%

I then looked up Psa-69 in the Jewish bible and found within that
chapter, in the 21st verse these words: "They gave me also gall for my
meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink." I recognized
instanly that they were talking about when Jesus Christ was being
crucified. Because it says in the New Testament, Matthew 27:34, "They
gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted
thereof, he would not drink."

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Laurent Saragosti

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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We have also the same bullshit with the hebrew alphabet, please do not send
the same stuff, we know that all the very intelligent and educated people
can get all the answers from the bible, funny that it is always after that
the event occurs.

Laurent.


thomas toth

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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someone once said:

if you collect enough numbers you can prove anything you like


your passage just seems like that to me. i am sure any other
number/anything else can be proven with the same effort.

thomas

Mel Collins

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Nov 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/9/98
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Donald B. Ratsch wrote:
A huge pile of <snip>

Wow! That's incredible!
Now what's the one that 'proves' Bill Gates is Satan...?

Mel C

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http://www.welcome.to/Mystic.Isles
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Only those who prosper truly judge what is sane." - Rogue Trader
"Live long and prosper" - Vulcan Proverb

Alison Hopkins

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Mel Collins wrote in message <3647161A...@cs.york.ac.uk>...

>Donald B. Ratsch wrote:
>A huge pile of <snip>


I think you mispelt that last word... <g>

Ali

Stalker

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If I screw around with numbers enough, I can show you that I am destined to
be with a beautiful woman, have a brilliant career and die on a certain
date.

It has been well noted that man constantly looks for and actually finds
patterns that have no real significance. This is obviously one of them!
Where did the values for each letter come from?

Science is the quest to explain our universe and everything about it though
fact, not belief or religion. Religion is one of the original forms of
control, used by rulers to keep the masses in line.

Donald B. Ratsch

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Sorry I forgot some important information about 3168. As the earth
orbits the sun, it takes with it its very own satellite, the moon. Thus
the earth and moon, in relation to the sun, become a unit, traveling
together the 595 million miles of its orbit during a period of a little
more than 365 days. For purposes of their geometry, let's consider the
earth and moon as positioned tangent to each other, and enclose this
unit in a circle. It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles. Yes again
it bears the signature of its Maker, Jesus Christ, the number of his
name. Truly God the Father and God the Son spoke as one when they said
according to the Jewish bible, "And God said, "Let US make man in OUR
image, after OUR likeness" (Genesis 1:26)

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Gerard Guedj

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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Thank you so much for these very valuable details which were missing to
the understanding, as some could have believe 31 is your age and 68 you
I.Q. (or the contrary)
GG

riverman

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Gerard Guedj wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for these very valuable details which were missing to
> the understanding, as some could have believe 31 is your age and 68 you
> I.Q. (or the contrary)
> GG
>

OOh, ah! But there's MORE! Take the *mystical* number 3168, and
MULTIPLY the digits, and we get '144', which under simple substitution
cipher, translates to 'ADD!' which is certainly a divinely-inspired
clue.

So lets ADD the digits instead, getting 18 which translates to 'AH'!
Positive feedback, I think.

Now, add 1+8, and we get '9', which is 'I'. A message from God, do you
think??

But if we SUBTRACT 3-1-6-8, we get -12. This translates to 'BA' (if we
take the negative to mean read it backwards), which is certainly
evidence of God's help.

Oh thank you. This has been 20-15-20-1-12-12-25 19-20-21-16-9-4. Which
adds up to 'Aid'. Which means 'help', too.
=========================================================
myron buck (riverman): DoD #9250
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( )>( ) BWOB #4 1970 Bluehole 17A \___ /_____/
""""""""""""""""""""""""""~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^ ~~~~~~~

Michael `Mike` Crowe

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In article <36470A1E...@witschi.com>, thomas toth
<tt...@witschi.com> writes
With great emphasis on the number `40`, a newsreader the other day
remarked that `40% of the population agreed that ...........`.
Having been in teaching and knowing that numbers and small print can say
anything you want them to say, I looked at it the other way, that `60%
of the population disagreed that .............`
To me 60% is greater than 40%. You read into facts and figure how you
like.


Michael `Mike` Crowe

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Nov 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/10/98
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Donald--
come on now, no one's gonna get hurt; just put down that calculator and back
away slowly.
karla
p.s...i hear that you can "count" on finding the real, tangible religious
meaning you are seeking by giving some of that wasted free time you seem to
have in volunteering at the nearest soup kitchen.

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overnite

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Notwithstanding that I love to read about Jesus Christ, if you are indeed
serious with your number logic, there are a few remarkable cases quite
similar to yours which were treated in part with drugs such as lithium,
coupled with anti-psychotic drugs. The results were/are encouraging.

If you or any reader would like the citations to the above journals, please
respond & I will post them very briefly, or perhaps email you directly.
Anyway, Best Regards.

overnite

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Ian Molton

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In article <3647A9E8...@home.com>,

Donald B. Ratsch <st...@home.com> wrote:

> It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
> enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.

Well thats wonderful, except you forget that the earths orbit it, rather
unfortunately, an elipse, and not a circle.

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thomas toth

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> In article <3647A9E8...@home.com>,
> Donald B. Ratsch <st...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
> > enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.

why miles and not kilometers?

thomas

Gerard Guedj

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Nov 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/12/98
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OK riverman, sorry for the bad joke, howewer be cautious, I could kill
my mother for a bad joke ( as a matter of fact i already did it)
But if you insist, I'll catch your other cheek :
So please, try aspirin.It is less dangerous than your usual mushrooms
and you will not have to prove to us the beeing of God, as you know God
is our next door neigbour, so we are not impressed so much.
On top of that we are already fed up with Gematrya, the science of
number of very wise guys who know Kabala ....
So .... bye , try something.like.socio.religion to sell your stuff
Shalom
Gerard Guedj

riverman wrote:
>
> Gerard Guedj wrote:
> >
> > Thank you so much for these very valuable details which were missing to
> > the understanding, as some could have believe 31 is your age and 68 you
> > I.Q. (or the contrary)
> > GG
> >
>
> OOh, ah! But there's MORE! Take the *mystical* number 3168, and
> MULTIPLY the digits, and we get '144', which under simple substitution
> cipher, translates to 'ADD!' which is certainly a divinely-inspired
> clue.
>
> So lets ADD the digits instead, getting 18 which translates to 'AH'!
> Positive feedback, I think.
>
> Now, add 1+8, and we get '9', which is 'I'. A message from God, do you
> think??
>

> .......

Jimi Tubman

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Nov 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/12/98
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>> > It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
>> > enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.
>
>why miles and not kilometers?

Use fathoms!! ;)


Jimi :)

riverman

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Or CUBITS! (Uhhh, Lord. What's a cubit?)

--

thomas toth

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> OOh, ah! But there's MORE! Take the *mystical* number 3168, and
> MULTIPLY the digits, and we get '144', which under simple substitution
> cipher, translates to 'ADD!' which is certainly a divinely-inspired
> clue.
>
> So lets ADD the digits instead, getting 18 which translates to 'AH'!
> Positive feedback, I think.
>
> Now, add 1+8, and we get '9', which is 'I'. A message from God, do you
> think??
>
> .......

are there any more clues??? this REALY seems to be a magic number!!!

thomas

math...@hotmail.com

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In article <364B02...@sorry.com>,

"delete.z's" <zmy...@zamerican.hasharon.k12.il> wrote:
> Jimi Tubman wrote:
> >
> > >> > It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
> > >> > enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.
> > >
> > >why miles and not kilometers?
> >
> > Use fathoms!! ;)
> >
>
> Or CUBITS! (Uhhh, Lord. What's a cubit?)

Actually it's the length of a forearm! Really!

But for this group at this time it probably is
(10^11)/3168 somethings


>
> --
> =========================================================
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> ( )>( ) BWOB #4 1970 Bluehole 17A \___ /_____/
> """"""""""""""""""""""""""~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^ ~~~~~~~
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Edmond H. Wollmann

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Donald B. Ratsch wrote:

> Sorry I forgot some important information about 3168. As the earth
> orbits the sun, it takes with it its very own satellite, the moon. Thus
> the earth and moon, in relation to the sun, become a unit, traveling
> together the 595 million miles of its orbit during a period of a little
> more than 365 days. For purposes of their geometry, let's consider the
> earth and moon as positioned tangent to each other, and enclose this
> unit in a circle. It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
> enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles. Yes again
> it bears the signature of its Maker, Jesus Christ, the number of his
> name. Truly God the Father and God the Son spoke as one when they said
> according to the Jewish bible, "And God said, "Let US make man in OUR
> image, after OUR likeness" (Genesis 1:26)

The second coming will be the Christ consciousness within EACH AND EVERY
INDIVIDUAL, that each of us is as powerful as he/she needs to be to
create whatever they desire to create without having to hurt or malign
anyone else in order to do so. This powerless "science of following"
promoted by thre fundementalist political faction is NOT what he who
expressed the christ consciousness (the combination of all archetypal
reference in this SOLAR SYSTEM) the first time, meant to happen.

"The kingdom of heaven will not come through expectation-it is spread
across the land but men do not see it." The Gospel of
Thomas

"He who drinks from my mouth will become as I am, and I shall be he."
The Gospel according to St. Thomas
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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Alison Hopkins

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riverman wrote in message <364B02...@sorry.com>...

>Jimi Tubman wrote:
>>
>> >> > It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
>> >> > enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.
>> >
>> >why miles and not kilometers?
>>
>> Use fathoms!! ;)
>>
>
>
>Or CUBITS! (Uhhh, Lord. What's a cubit?)
>

Distance between elbow and longest finger, I think?

Ali

Emmanuel Doubchak

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Jimi Tubman wrote:
>> > It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
>> > enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.
>
>why miles and not kilometers?
yOU ARE TOTALLY ON THE WRONG NEWS GROUP

HERE WE WRITE AND READ (AND WITH MANY MISTAKES) ONLY FRENCH, AND WE HAVE ENOUGH MYSTICISM AT HOME SO WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN IMPORTED ONES

:-)

Ian Molton

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In article <364B348B...@inter.net.il>,

Emmanuel Doubchak <emma...@inter.net.il> wrote:
> yOU ARE TOTALLY ON THE WRONG NEWS GROUP
> HERE WE WRITE AND READ (AND WITH MANY MISTAKES) ONLY FRENCH, AND WE HAVE
> ENOUGH MYSTICISM AT HOME SO WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN IMPORTED ONES

If you only write in french, why can I read this? :-)

PS. your shift key is stuck...

Edmond H. Wollmann

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In article <364B02...@sorry.com>,

math...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> In article <364B02...@sorry.com>,
> "delete.z's" <zmy...@zamerican.hasharon.k12.il> wrote:

> > Jimi Tubman wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
> > > >> > enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.
> > > >
> > > >why miles and not kilometers?
> > >

> > > Use fathoms!! ;)
> > >
> >
> > Or CUBITS! (Uhhh, Lord. What's a cubit?)
>

> Actually it's the length of a forearm! Really!
>
> But for this group at this time it probably is
> (10^11)/3168 somethings
>
> >
> > --
> > =========================================================
> > myron buck (riverman): DoD #9250
> > O O_
> > /\ ACGWB #2 1995 VN750 _____</_____
> > ( )>( ) BWOB #4 1970 Bluehole 17A \___ /_____/
> > """"""""""""""""""""""""""~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^ ~~~~~~~
> >
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thomas toth wrote:
>
> > In article <3647A9E8...@home.com>,

> > Donald B. Ratsch <st...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It is not coincidence tht the circle which would
> > > enclose these two orbs has a circumference of 31,680 miles.
>
> why miles and not kilometers?
>

> thomas

Don't ask me ask God. He designed it that way

The Puddies

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Donald B. Ratsch wrote in message <364B933C...@home.com>...

>
>
>
>Don't ask me ask God. He designed it that way


There is no god and jesus is his son......

Please trim your headers..... this is off topic on this newsgroup

Evelyn

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Only fools said there is no God!

Gurney

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The fool says in his heart "There is no God".
The wise man says it to the world.

(from www.infidels.org)

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