# College Algebra Vs. Algebra II

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### Elliot Villiger

Mar 3, 2001, 5:19:22 PM3/3/01
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Is College Algebra and Algebra II the same thing or are they different? If
they are different, what is the difference?

All I am really looking for is diffculty level and areas or topics covered
in College Algebra.

thanks.

elliot

### Stan Brown

Mar 4, 2001, 8:39:38 AM3/4/01
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Quoth Elliot Villiger <ev...@home.com> in alt.algebra.help:

Of course you understand that the answer will be different among
different textbooks and different schools. If you have a specific
school in mind, you really need to ask there.

With that caveat, here's _one_ answer. College Algebra, despite its
name, is very often a high-school course. It may cover topics beyond
second-year algebra. Some examples:

- partial fractions

- matrices and determinants

- theory of equations

Sometimes there is some overlap between the content of courses
called "college algebra" and those called "precalculus".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

### Judy

Mar 4, 2001, 10:10:17 AM3/4/01
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Having taught both, I'd say College Algebra is a little shy in the content
of Alg II. Remember, Alg II is taught over a 180 school days while the
college course is presented over approximately 30 classes. In the high
school program there is more time for practice; not so in the college
course.
Judy

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### Bob

Mar 4, 2001, 1:02:18 PM3/4/01
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:19:22 GMT, "Elliot Villiger" <ev...@home.com>
wrote:

>Is College Algebra and Algebra II the same thing or are they different? If
>they are different, what is the difference?
>

The big difference is the pace. The college course proceeds at a
_much_ more rapid pace. Those who would struggle with the course at HS
level will find the college pace impossible.

The content will vary depending on the specific schools. But HS
students sometimes do take the college courses for HS credit. Check
with the specific school, or even specific instructor, for details.

bob

### Stan Brown

Mar 4, 2001, 4:01:46 PM3/4/01
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>The big difference is the pace. The college course proceeds at a
>_much_ more rapid pace. Those who would struggle with the course at HS
>level will find the college pace impossible.

You and Judy both seem to imply that College Algebra is a course
taught in college.

For what it's worth, in my experience the course is taught in high
school. Quite by coincidence, the question came up at the community
college where I tutor, and the lead tutor said that"college algebra"
was a misnomer because it is a high-school course.

I'm not saying you and Judy are wrong, just that the term means
different things depending on whom you ask.

### John

Mar 4, 2001, 5:25:05 PM3/4/01
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Stan Brown wrote:
>
> Quoth Bob <bbr...@uclink4.berkeley.edu> in alt.algebra.help:
> >The big difference is the pace. The college course proceeds at a
> >_much_ more rapid pace. Those who would struggle with the course at HS
> >level will find the college pace impossible.
>
> You and Judy both seem to imply that College Algebra is a course
> taught in college.
>
> For what it's worth, in my experience the course is taught in high
> school. Quite by coincidence, the question came up at the community
> college where I tutor, and the lead tutor said that"college algebra"
> was a misnomer because it is a high-school course.
>
> I'm not saying you and Judy are wrong, just that the term means
> different things depending on whom you ask.

Odd... many of the problems in my college algebra text are nearly the
same to those in first year calc---in fact, I use a pre-calc and calc
book as references! My groups class presentation will be on the 'box
construction' problem; a historical and theoretical perspective.

Now... I'd really be interested in comparing college algebra of my
father's generation (mid '70's) to mine; no comparison to what I'm
learning---I'm definitely ahead of the college algebra of his time.

### Doug Magnoli

Mar 5, 2001, 1:41:57 AM3/5/01
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mid '70s. I was an undergrad in the mid '70s, and my school didn't have a
'college algebra' course--it was assumed that the students had learned
algebra in high school. The lowest level class offered by the math
department was diferential calculus.

To me what this means is that in your father's era, 'college algebra' wasn't
even offered because everyone already knew it. If you have to take it in
college, you're way _behind_ the 'college algebra' of that era.

I'm always astounded when I hear of 'college algebra.' To me, this implies
the sort of math class for a grad student or an upper division math major
undergrad--abstract algebra--rings, groups, Galois theory, etc.. To call
the factoring of x^3 - 3x + 2 (or the box construction problem) 'college
algebra' is almost embarrassing.

-Doug Magnoli

### palef...@gmail.com

Sep 27, 2015, 12:11:26 AM9/27/15
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Sorry Doug, but I have seen College Algebra texts as old as late 19th century. Just because your dad didn't have it in his school nor take it doesn't mean it wasn't there. The 70's either as I have seen College Algebra textbooks during that era too.

### br ni

Apr 14, 2022, 6:48:34 AM4/14/22
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On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 6:11:26 AM UTC+2, palef...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry Doug, but I have seen College Algebra texts as old as late 19th century. Just because your dad didn't have it in his school nor take it doesn't mean it wasn't there. The 70's either as I have seen College Algebra textbooks during that era too.

bro that was like 14 years ago