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AA Flight 587 Crashes in Queens

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Chas

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Nov 12, 2001, 9:57:39 AM11/12/01
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AA Flight 587, an Airbus A300 bound from JFK to Santa Domingo crashed in
queens after reportedly experiencing engine problems after take off. The
fully loaded flight had 247 people on board.

Stay tuned to your favorite anthrax network for further mis-information.


Jenniann

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Nov 12, 2001, 10:04:34 AM11/12/01
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Apparently 256 total on board - 247 passengers, 9 crew.

"Chas" <ch...@nochange.com> wrote in message
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Chas

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Nov 12, 2001, 10:08:09 AM11/12/01
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From the NASDAQ

American Airlines Plane Crashes Near New York's JFK Airport

NEW YORK -- An American Airlines jetliner crashed in Queens, N.Y. near John
F. Kennedy International Airport shortly after 9 a.m. EST on Monday.
The Airbus A300 apparently crashed in the Rockaway section of the borough
and at least four buildings were said to be on fire.

Cable News Network reported that American Airlines flight 587 was departing
JFK headed for Santo Domingo, in the Dominican Republic.

New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani was en route the crash site, according
to media reports.

In addition to JFK airport, LaGuardia and Newark airports were closed
following the crash.

American Airlines, a unit of AMR Corp. (AMR), and the Federal Aviation
Administration confirmed that the plane that crashed around 9:15 a.m. EST
was an American planes, CNN reported. The airline had no immediate comment,
according to the Associated Press.

The A300 has the capacity for around 266 people, though there was no
immediate word on how many passengers or crew members were on board.

Local police shut down the roads in the area around the site at Beach 129th
Street and Newport Avenue, CBS reported.

All bridges and tunnels going into New York City have been closed to all
traffic except for emergency vehicles, according to various media
organizations.

American Airlines stock has dropped 20.52% since the stock market opened
this morning.


Copyright (c) 2001 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
All Rights Reserved


devil

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Nov 12, 2001, 12:18:29 PM11/12/01
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Well, early on, you could tell how badly CNN was itching for this to be
terrorism. That new woman (Zahn?) whom I can't stand was really
shopping around for any tidbit that would go in that direction. And
sounded very disappointed whenever the answer sounded more like an
accident.

And their web page still contains BS on "explosion" on board.

Chas

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Nov 12, 2001, 12:31:32 PM11/12/01
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The biggest fault of the media I can see at this point is that they are
desperately seeking a body count. Every time Paula Zahn switched on site
reporters damn near the first question out of her mouth was "have you seen
any ambulances leaving yet?"

"Cyrus Afzali" <pns...@lnubb.pbz> wrote in message
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> The "explosion BS" is from eyewitness reports. People who live in the
> Rockaways report hearing something akin to the Concorde's sonic boom.
> When it hit them shortly thereafter that flights hadn't resumed, they
> knew it was something else.
>
> I'm not a fan of Paula Zahn, but she's no better or worse than any
> talking head on TV. Unfortunately, CNN is going in the direction of
> putting glamour on the screen as the competition in the news biz
> contiues to heat up. Historically, they weren't like that and went for
> substance over style.


devil

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Nov 12, 2001, 1:21:25 PM11/12/01
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Cyrus Afzali wrote:
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:18:29 GMT, devil <de...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> The "explosion BS" is from eyewitness reports. People who live in the
> Rockaways report hearing something akin to the Concorde's sonic boom.
> When it hit them shortly thereafter that flights hadn't resumed, they
> knew it was something else.

Actually they refer to "an administration official." And an explosion
*on board.* Obviously when a plane crashes, that makes noise which
witnesses will perceive as akin to an explosion.



> I'm not a fan of Paula Zahn, but she's no better or worse than any
> talking head on TV. Unfortunately, CNN is going in the direction of
> putting glamour on the screen as the competition in the news biz
> contiues to heat up. Historically, they weren't like that and went for
> substance over style.

True. Still, I find her especially unpleasant. She shows so strongly
how high her own opinion of herself is...

John Mazor

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Nov 12, 2001, 3:34:18 PM11/12/01
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Cyrus Afzali <pns...@lnubb.pbz> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 18:21:25 GMT, devil <de...@attglobal.net> wrote:

>
> >Cyrus Afzali wrote:
>
> >> The "explosion BS" is from eyewitness reports. People who live in
the
> >> Rockaways report hearing something akin to the Concorde's sonic
boom.
> >> When it hit them shortly thereafter that flights hadn't resumed,
they
> >> knew it was something else.
> >
> >Actually they refer to "an administration official." And an
explosion
> >*on board.* Obviously when a plane crashes, that makes noise which
> >witnesses will perceive as akin to an explosion.
>
> No, I'm watching NYC TV stations, not just CNN. They have
interviewed
> several eyewitnesses who reported a sound similar to the Concorde's
> sonic boom. Obviously, that could be an engine explosion or
> disintegration or a number of other things.

> >
> >> I'm not a fan of Paula Zahn, but she's no better or worse than
any
> >> talking head on TV. Unfortunately, CNN is going in the direction
of
> >> putting glamour on the screen as the competition in the news biz
> >> contiues to heat up. Historically, they weren't like that and
went for
> >> substance over style.
> >
> >True. Still, I find her especially unpleasant. She shows so
strongly
> >how high her own opinion of herself is...
>
> As I said, I'm no fan. Unfortunately, the new owners seem hell bent
on
> making CNN more like the "bubble headed bleach blonde" types. In the
> days when CNN was an independent company, things were much
different.

Heh. Do you know when Don Henley penned that line? 1982. Yes, it
was that bad 20 years ago. News actually started its "if it bleeds it
leads" and happy talk, consultant-driven pandering back in the 1970s.

I can't remember when CNN started, but in 1982 it was either a gleam
in Turner's eye, or at best, a second-rate, shoe-string, start-up
operation. (Okay, it may or may not still be second-rate, but it's
big bidness now.) Nice reference, though.

Remember the next line, after "See the bubble-headed bleach blonde,
who comes on at five"?

"She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye."

Oh, yes!!! Henley had them skewered, drawn and quartered, even back
then.


Coridon Henshaw

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Nov 13, 2001, 5:01:42 PM11/13/01
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Cyrus Afzali <pns...@lnubb.pbz> wrote in
news:7i10vt44c69p55bl9...@4ax.com:

> I'm not a fan of Paula Zahn, but she's no better or worse than any
> talking head on TV. Unfortunately, CNN is going in the direction of
> putting glamour on the screen as the competition in the news biz
> contiues to heat up.

1) No one ever lost money by underestimating the stupidity of the American
public.

2) AOL made its fortune by pandering to the stupidest %5 of computer users.

As far as AOL is concerned, there's no reason to mess with what has proven
to be a sound business strategy.

--
49 Americans exposed to anthrax: U.S. considers invalidating Cipro patent
to reduce costs. 36 million people with AIDS: U.S. sues governments which
invalidate drug patents not to save money but so their people can live.
With policies like these, is it any wonder why Osama bin Laden has so much
support? -- Coridon Henshaw / http://www3.sympatico.ca/gcircle/csbh

Don Sterner

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Nov 13, 2001, 9:08:15 PM11/13/01
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:18:29 GMT, devil <de...@attglobal.net>
wrote:

>Chas wrote:

CNN? Have you watched MSNBC? Their afternoon guy actually got
visibly angry with a person he was interviewing when he couldn't
get the guy to say that the crash was probably the work of a
terrorist. Nevertheless, the most biased of all has to be FOX -
the one who constantly tries to tell you how fair and balanced
they are. The military is all wrong in the way they fight the
war, the NTSB is lying because they aren't telling us the crash
was a terrorist act, Bush shouldn't be giving away our Nukes
because we have no way of knowing how many the Russians have
pointed at us right now - etc. etc. Yep, fair and balanced - and
that all came from about 15 minutes of afternoon "news" on Fox.

Don Sterner

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Nov 13, 2001, 9:09:50 PM11/13/01
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>I'm not a fan of Paula Zahn, but she's no better or worse than any
>talking head on TV. Unfortunately, CNN is going in the direction of
>putting glamour on the screen as the competition in the news biz
>contiues to heat up. Historically, they weren't like that and went for
>substance over style.


Glamour? Paula Zahn. Pardon me while I die laughing. In her
dreams, she's glamorous.

Polar

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Nov 13, 2001, 9:19:56 PM11/13/01
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:08:15 -0600, Don Sterner <dste...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Fox = Rupert Murdoch = the death of any medium he gets his paws on.


--

Polar

John Mazor

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Nov 14, 2001, 1:53:09 AM11/14/01
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Don Sterner <dste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>Nevertheless, the most biased of all has to be FOX -
> the one who constantly tries to tell you how fair and balanced
> they are. The military is all wrong in the way they fight the
> war, the NTSB is lying because they aren't telling us the crash
> was a terrorist act, Bush shouldn't be giving away our Nukes
> because we have no way of knowing how many the Russians have
> pointed at us right now - etc. etc. Yep, fair and balanced - and
> that all came from about 15 minutes of afternoon "news" on Fox.

The term "Fox News" is an oxymoron.

MC Christhammer

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Nov 15, 2001, 4:55:52 AM11/15/01
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well who be ownin the mzzedia an' shit

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m...@theairplanefactory.com

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Nov 20, 2001, 12:12:37 PM11/20/01
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:09:50 -0600, Don Sterner <dste...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>>I'm not a fan of Paula Zahn, but she's no better or worse than any

Well, it is the best they could do, considering that it is CNN,
Clinton News Network, Clinton would get distracted by anything
good-looking, and they don't want him to stop watching..............!
Hmmmm, seems like a contradiction, doesn't it?

devil

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Nov 20, 2001, 6:53:41 PM11/20/01
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You mean, you think the stupid cow is actually good-looking?

JF Mezei

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Nov 20, 2001, 10:35:36 PM11/20/01
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devil wrote:
> You mean, you think the stupid cow is actually good-looking?

Would you prefer Barbra Wawa ?

Paula Zhan may not be a supermodel any healthy male dreams about, and she may
not be an einstein, but she is not ugly.

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